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Saffron's Twin: Just to muddy the waters
even more at some point the crew could pick up a
Companion's Guild House Priestess from one of
the Core worlds. An infulential and powerful
woman who just happens to look exactly like
YoSafBridge and claims to be her twin, although
she'll say no more about the matter. Is it
really Saffron finally getting her revenge for
being left in a dumpster or is it really her
twin and all those cutting comments could cause
the crew some political blowback somewhere down
the line? Only time will tell. For this part I'd
of course cast Saffron herself, for the moment
though the actresses name eludes me. For this I
must make pennance by watching Our Mrs. Reynolds
again and braving the special hell.


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Originally posted by Gunhand:


Just checked IMDB too, Adam Baldwin's 10 years older than me, so that locks it, gonna have to clear my schedule to play Maddy.


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Originally posted by Neroli:
Interesting ideas, I like the one for Jayne's uncle the best. I can totally see him having a shyster in the family. LOL

I think it'd be fun to meet Jayne's Mom sometime.

I picture her as a somewhat delicate looking woman, kind of dainty and frail till she opens her mouth and starts hollering at Jayne. A "grab the kid by the ears and wash his mouth out with soap" woman.

I guess I just like the image of Jayne being all terrified of this bitty little woman.

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Shall we start calling you Madagascar now or wait till the series returns to TV?

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Madagascar Cobb. Sorta gives off a pulp action hero vibe if I say so myself. I could pull that off, but if we started that it'd jinx it. I know it would.

Then again if Firefly becomes the next Star Trek, as in cancelled then a movie then more series complete with spinoffs it could be Cobb: Pulping the 'Verse. That has sorta a ring to it...





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I was thinking along the same lines, as far as his mom being this little frail appearing woman, right up until Jayne walks into the room, gulps and does the darty eyed thing (like whenever anyone brings up Ariel) and says very, very politely/worriedly,"Ummm, hey...I mean hello there Mother. Ma'am." While Zoe and Wash exchange a significant look. Comedy gold and touching in a way.

For some reason I always figure Jayne would call her,"Mother." Not ma, not mom, not mommy but Mother. She signs her letter in the Message that way and I like that old fashioned, and dare I say it for the Cobb family, properness.

But who would have the screen presence to be Jayne's mom and make it believable? Hmmm...


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Originally posted by Gunhand:

Madagascar Cobb. Sorta gives off a pulp action hero vibe if I say so myself. I could pull that off, but if we started that it'd jinx it. I know it would.

Then again if Firefly becomes the next Star Trek, as in cancelled then a movie then more series complete with spinoffs it could be Cobb: Pulping the 'Verse. That has sorta a ring to it...




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But who would have the screen presence to be Jayne's mom and make it believable? Hmmm...

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Originally posted by Neroli:
Other then John Mellencamp being so darn short, I can see him as Jayne's dad.

He really should have one parent over 6 feet tall. LOL

"The Whole Wide World" is a very small movie, awesome though, it chronicles the relationship of pulp fiction writer Robert E. Howard and a Texas schoolteacher named Novalyne Price. Very sad story, a bit of a "chick flik" but if you have some intrest in Robert E. Howard it makes for a good rental...if you can find it.

To those that don't know, he's the creater of Conan The Barbarian.

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But who would have the screen presence to be Jayne's mom and make it believable? Hmmm...

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I think he'd call her 'Ma'. One good choice might be Linda Hunt of The Year of Living Dangerously, Dune and Silverado fame. The idea of this articulate and very small woman giving birth to the humongous, man-ape-gone-wrong would be excellent... Especially if you could play it up for a while first. You know, "My Ma's one tough customer! You watch out, she's meaner'n a rattle snake!". Then we meet her and she's urbane, petite and soft-spoken (sort of the Anti-Jayne); but every time Jayne walks past her, he flinches and grabs his ears, like he's had 'em tweaked a few times.


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"River and me was best friends, back then. I named my first-born daughter after her. 'Course, you can't swing a dead cat 'round here on I-Day without hittin' a River..."

- Kaywinnit Tam, wife and mother of 6, A Child Shall Lead Them: A History of the Second War of Independence Wilkins, Richard

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I think he'd call her 'Ma'. One good choice might be Linda Hunt of The Year of Living Dangerously, Dune and Silverado fame. The idea of this articulate and very small woman giving birth to the humongous, man-ape-gone-wrong would be excellent... Especially if you could play it up for a while first. You know, "My Ma's one tough customer! You watch out, she's meaner'n a rattle snake!". Then we meet her and she's urbane, petite and soft-spoken (sort of the Anti-Jayne); but every time Jayne walks past her, he flinches and grabs his ears, like he's had 'em tweaked a few times.


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zoid
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"River and me was best friends, back then. I named my first-born daughter after her. 'Course, you can't swing a dead cat 'round here on I-Day without hittin' a River..."

- Kaywinnit Tam, wife and mother of 6, A Child Shall Lead Them: A History of the Second War of Independence Wilkins, Richard

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There's a Robert E Howard movie?!?!? And I didn't know about it?!?!? Okay need to find my credit card and start looking at Amazon...

As for the size thing, over 6 foot eh? Well we'll just need a reaaaal tall acress, Jayne can take after her. I'll take after Pa Cobb somewhat, although I believe I'd be taller than him as well.




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Yeah I can see Linda Hunt, most definately. And she was simply incredible in Silverado, perfect mix of tough as nails and motherly in a delicately sweet fashion.

That sorta nixes John Mellencamp for Pa Cobb then. Sorry John, maybe if Oldman isn't available he could be Phinneas Cobb. Actually...I kinda like that idea. Quite a bit.

So now we need a Pa Cobb. Sheesh gonna be a full thread before we even get just the Cobb Clan cast.


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Other then John Mellencamp being so darn short, I can see him as Jayne's dad.

He really should have one parent over 6 feet tall. LOL

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Other then John Mellencamp being so darn short, I can see him as Jayne's dad.

He really should have one parent over 6 feet tall. LOL

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Holy comedy gold batman! Cast John Mellencamp as Jayne's dad and a little, tiny petite woman as Jayne's mother. Then cast a big tall strapping man as their neighbor.

Watch the reactions fly between Mal, Zoe, and Wash. Book of course would step in and ease the awkwardness.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

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Ok, all this talk of John Mellencamp and Tom Petty got me thinking...Maria McKee needs a role on Firefly too!!!

I'm thinking, Mal's fiance from before the war. He left her at the alter to join the Independants. A deeply religous woman, with a serious grudge against Mal. So what would she do for revenge? Marry Jayne, of course!

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Okay now I need to go look up someone else who's famous and I probably should know the name of. This must be my night for being thick in the brainpan or something.

Work, work, work.

Doubt I'd call it the Ballad of Madagascar though. Thinking more along the lines of those old 19th century penny dreadfuls of the sort that Wyatt Earp put out about himself.

"The Amazing Absolutely Autobiographical True Tall Tales of Madagascar Cobb!" or something completely idiotic, over the top and suitably cheesified like that.



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I could see Morgan Freeman as Book's brother also- One who doesnt think he made the right choices

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Anton Niska, his little brother that is so bat crazy he even scares Niska himself.

He doesn't want to meet people in a Shan-Yu kinda way, he wants to become drinking buddies with their spleens, by having said organ in the glass when he drinks. Oh yeah, that would definately work...

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Originally posted by Gunhand:
Deacon Reynolds: Mal's younger brother,
Deacon being an allusion to the fact that he's
obviously a good and devout man; Mal before he
was all hollowed out. Although if Joss decides
that more will be told about Mal's past in the
movie Serenity and it's known he's an only child
then it works just as well as his cousin. Maybe
more in fact since the optomistic contrast of
Deacon to Mal would be sorta heavy handed
seeming if they were brothers. Anyhow he'd show
up at some point, perhaps as a postulant at
Bathgate Abbey, maybe he knows something about
Book? Maybe he can help Mal get back his faith?
Or maybe he can just wind up getting into a
whole peck of trouble and needing some rescuing
along the way. For this role I'd cast Breckin
Meyer (Road Trip, Rat Race) since he looks
enough like Nathan Fillion that them playing
brothers/cousins seems darn logical.

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Originally posted by Gunhand:
Madagascar "Maddy" Cobb: Jayne's slightly
younger brother.(yeah I'm pretty sure it was Matty in the script
but Madagascar Cobb just sounds shiny)

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Madagascar "Maddy" Cobb: Jayne's slightly
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Sorry if this has been discussed before - and that it's slightly off topic - but how do you know "Matty" is a boy? I always imagined Matty to be Jayne's younger sister. I guess I was thinking that, among other things, if Jayne's a girl's name but Jayne ain't a girl...well, you get the idea.

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Tom Petty! What a concept!

OR, someone who was a tad psychotic, but who could engender fanatic followers easily. How about William Shatner??

As for other characters, I'd like to see our crew encounter someone from Book's past, like Dietrich from Barney Miller as another shepherd.

Seriously, I think Simon and River's parents should make another appearance. They should beg River's forgiveness and apologize to Simon for not believing him about what the Academy was doing to her. However, the Alliance/Blue Hand guys would most likely have them under surveillance, so any contact with them would put the Serenity crew in jeopardy once more. Maybe they (the senior Tams) could put their lives on the line to save our guys and possibly make up a little for their previous callous (selfish) disregard?


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I know this is a bit off topic but...just had to say THANKS Gunhand, for making me listen to Tom petty all day at work! My fellow employee's were all manner of "delighted" by my CD choices this evening.

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You're definately welcome ma'am. And Tom Petty is...well he's a true musical genius. I know this by not being one. Although my band way back when in college did a pretty wicked cover of "Don't Come Around Here No More".

Hope they were really delighted, not likeing Tom Petty is like not liking...air. Or other good things.

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I'd like to see Jay Mohr play an Alliance officer.

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Originally posted by howdyrockerbaby1:
I picture Jayne calling his mother Mama, goody goody but still with the southern flare. i also can see his Mama yelling at him using his middle name, which of course will have to be something very embarrassing... i mean, if you are a guy as scary as Adam Baldwin is you can carry the name Jayne without being to girly, but what if his middle name was something floral? Maybe his mom was really drugged up when she gave birth to him (i can see Jayne being one BIG baby!) and told them the girls name choice rather than the boys!

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