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Imponderables: I Need You So

POSTED BY: NVGHOSTRIDER
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Friday, February 22, 2008 6:54 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Yeah, another song title. This time a BB King song. He has a new album out and I really want it gorrammit.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 7:02 AM

ZEEK


You need me? I had no idea. :-P

Firsties?

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Friday, February 22, 2008 7:44 AM

MSB


Wow cool firsties Zeek

Hmmm so would you say that'd make a good birthday present for you NV???



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Friday, February 22, 2008 8:00 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Naww. I usually can't wait long enough. I really don't know what I want for my birthday (as usual).


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Friday, February 22, 2008 8:40 AM

MSB


ooh that's a good ponder

What would your ideal birthday present be??

Mine would be two days off where I didn't have to do anything. I would sleep late, take a bubble bath, have a martini or two, eat yummy food and just drift along reading, watching tv, taking a walk or two....




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Friday, February 22, 2008 9:51 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


I hit a new low.

I gave a student a near fatal asthma attack.




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Friday, February 22, 2008 9:54 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Not on purpose I hope.


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Friday, February 22, 2008 9:54 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
What would your ideal birthday present be??


I think I'd go for something along the lines of your gift. Not really something that can be wrapped up in a box. I'd be perfectly happy just having a home cooked meal and curling up on the couch with my smokin hot gf (not that I have one but for the ideal gift she'd be included ) to watch a bunch of Firefly.

Actually I supposed the smokin hot gf was the only thing missing from the equation this year. I cooked. I curled up and watched Firefly. I was pretty content with that scenario.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 9:59 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Not on purpose I hope.



Well, no. But if she comes back it's actually very likely I'll give her another one since she's in some trouble and I'm not giving her the answers she wants to hear.




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Friday, February 22, 2008 10:17 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Sounds like a fun set of circumstances


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Friday, February 22, 2008 10:28 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Oh yeah. The most fun you can have without having any fun.

Basically I deal with international students, which she is. She has a student visa, which allows her to live here and work part time. She can even work full time when she's on holidays.

BUT in order to renew a student visa (which you have to do every year) you need to attend the school. If your attendance is over 85%, they'll renew it for a year. If it's between 50% and 85%, you'll get a three month temporary visa, and have to renew that when it's done, if you attendance is then okay.

This girl had an attendance of 35%. Which basically means no way in hell is she getting a visa. To be fair, she HAD been very sick, but as far as I could see, her illness began in October. She enrolled in February.

She wanted me to say her attendance was higher than it was. I said I couldn't (which we can't. It's fraud. Colleges get shut down for less.) She would just have to show her medical certs to immigration and hope for the best. She demanded to speak to the director. He said the same thing. She got ~very~ upset, so I walked her to the bathroom, hoping to help her calm down while also gently getting her out of the office. Instead she hyperventilated, which triggered her asthma. We ended up having to call an ambulance.

I stayed with her for a bit and she's stable, but it turns out she's much sicker than we ever knew, and has been since she enrolled - even though she filled in an application form and said she had no medical issues. She's a ticking time bomb. Stress can trigger a fatal attack. And we ~still~ can't do anything for her. In fact, sick as she is, we may not be able to enrol her at all, in which case she has no hope at all of getting a student visa.

*starts typing up her CV*




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Friday, February 22, 2008 10:46 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Okay, so pretty much it was something totally not your fault. If anything she can be blamed for the attack AND coerced you into committing fraud which could easily cause you your job and/or teaching credentials. She might be a nice person and all but it seems she was way willing to risk something that was not hers. Not to say she was maliciously trying to make trouble. But experiencing similar issues on a daily basis here it has to be said you did very well protecting you and yours. She is there legally with some problems, not your fault. But I see people here in illicit manners always looking for excuses and patsy's. I do feel sorry for folks working hard to do things right to stay in country. But those who put others at risk in the interest of their own self gain just need to go home. Fuck 'em and feed 'em beans!


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Friday, February 22, 2008 11:03 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


...and that's the biggest part of the problem. while her ill health is genuine, I don't think her interest in studying is. Looking at her file, she strikes me very much as someone who enrolled as a student to get a work visa (albeit restricted) That's something you see a lot. It's actually pretty much my job to stop applicants like that getting into the college.

Honestly, I think she had planned to get her status changed somehow during the year, but it took longer than she expected so she started to attend classes, only to be hit with ill health. And now she's trying to do whatever she can to stay in the country until she gets a visa that lets her work without the pesky study problem. I have no proof of that, but I've seen similar before and she really fits the category.

Her initial hyperventilating *was* attention seeking, along with of course her genuine upset at the situation, but of course it triggered her asthma. Damn near killed her. She stopped breathing altogether more than once.

So I have every reason in the world not to enrol this girl in the college, but telling her so is going to trigger more theatrics and could even kill her.

There is a bright side to this, believe it or not. The college had a share of pretty dodgy students, but they'd started to attend classes and follow the rules when they heard about the new, super strict Registrar. When they find out I almost killed a student and still didn't bend the rules, my reputation will be fucking iron clad.




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Friday, February 22, 2008 11:10 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Hoorah woman! Let 'em all know who's boss.


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Friday, February 22, 2008 12:48 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
The college had a share of pretty dodgy students, but they'd started to attend classes and follow the rules when they heard about the new, super strict Registrar.


I thought hippies aren't supposed to care about rules. Shouldn't you be fighting the power and taking down "the man"?

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Friday, February 22, 2008 1:10 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Sometimes it requires being right under his nose to truly stick it to the man.


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Friday, February 22, 2008 2:13 PM

TRAVELER


A friend of mine runs the maintance departmrnt for a country club and they hire students on these visas all the time. They claim they are studing English and want to witness it spoken in its natural surroundings. So they hop from city to city to learn the dialects of the different regions of the United States. They don't attend any school at all. I think these visas only last one year and then they have to return. He has had students from every part of the globe. From Chile to Ukraine. Since they have housing right on the country club grounds they get rent free while they work there. Do they spend. Buying things they can't get back home. With a full time job and no rent they can do alright for themselves.




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Friday, February 22, 2008 4:27 PM

MSB


HUGS DTH oh sweety that so wasn't your fault. I had asthma as a kid ( still do in a minor way ) and if she tried to gain sympathy by triggering an attack ( which is really easy to do if you accelerate your breathing while you are under stress) it's not even a little bit your fault...she made the choice. She triggered the attack intentionally as emotional blackmail to make you sympathize and lie for her... she's a bitch plain and simple. Willing to use her condition and sympathy to break rules and get her own way. She's trying to use your compassion against you... nothing is more despicable... so don't you fret for one tiny little minute. That is so not your fault... she just miscalculated when she triggered and it escalated out of her control( which happens when you do that...) I used to do that to my mom when I was little. I'd hold my breath then start the fast breathing to make her do what I wanted ( I was 3 at the time) Never give in to a tantrum be it adult or child...HUGS and loves

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Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:36 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Just some Saturday afternoon
BUMPAGE!


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Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:58 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
The college had a share of pretty dodgy students, but they'd started to attend classes and follow the rules when they heard about the new, super strict Registrar.


I thought hippies aren't supposed to care about rules. Shouldn't you be fighting the power and taking down "the man"?



You'd think so, wouldn't you? But somehow I always end up in very un-hippie jobs. Fraud detection, Property Claims analysis, Information Security... even when I switch to teaching, somehow I end up in admin enforcing the rules.

I need a hippie job. What kind of work do hippies do? Any other hippies I know don't seem to have jobs.




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Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:24 PM

MSB


HUGS DTH consolingly... it'll be ok. Think of it as expanding people's consciousness

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Monday, February 25, 2008 5:04 AM

MSB


Wow.... so quiet when everyone's off to the Cons

ok let's ponder... at what age do you want to retire?

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Monday, February 25, 2008 6:03 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
ok let's ponder... at what age do you want to retire?


Uh...now. I don't work for fun. I'm no Jubal Early. What's life without work? Relaxing, that's what. So, yeah as soon as I can retire, I'm going for it.

Did anybody else watch the oscars? I've got the enchanted songs in my head now. I even had to youtube up the clips this morning. Amy Adams is awesome. It doesn't hurt that she's totally hot too.

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Monday, February 25, 2008 6:15 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


*has lost voice but does complicated mime to indicate she agrees wholeheartedly with Zeek*




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Monday, February 25, 2008 6:18 AM

MSB


ooh sweety how did you lose your voice??

I only asked because I have a sub for one of our teachers aid's today and the guy looks about 70... Feel kind of bad for someone who is still working at that age.

HUGS DTH and Zeek

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Monday, February 25, 2008 6:31 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
ooh sweety how did you lose your voice??


Well I think we can assume DTH watched the oscars and couldn't stop singing Giselle's happy working song. Luckily for DTH the song even says "If you cannot sing then hum along". So, no voice no problem.

*Zeek hums along*

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Monday, February 25, 2008 6:36 AM

MSB


LOL... really and what would make you assume that?? Oh and did hot girl show up at the grocery store again?


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Monday, February 25, 2008 6:43 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Good morning peoples (hugs MSB).

So yeah Zeek, any new developments?

Okay, I no longer have to fill out everyones timesheets but then again I do because I get to enter their times on my 'puter and discover any mistakes.

How is this any different from doing the payroll before you ask?

Not really sure. Guess I need to (non smart arsedly) ask my boss.


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Monday, February 25, 2008 6:48 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


*wonders how to make NVG blush using mime*

*edit for blushworthy mime*






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Monday, February 25, 2008 6:49 AM

MSB


HUGS NV

Hmm not sure how it is different, maybe just adds another step so that your people feel important??



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Monday, February 25, 2008 7:03 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
LOL... really and what would make you assume that?? Oh and did hot girl show up at the grocery store again?


No reason. No reason at all.

lol haven't been back to the grocery store yet. I wouldn't hold your breath on me ever seeing her again.

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Monday, February 25, 2008 7:04 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Hmphhhh, Wah hahaha!

Okay. Not so much on the blushing side but the laugh I am muffling speaks for itself.

I guess MSB. It might just be my loss of control getting to me. I hate being in charge of anything but I am the one to get the phone calls when they screw up. Less work for me is actually more work in the end.

GAWD I love management.


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Monday, February 25, 2008 7:08 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
LOL... really and what would make you assume that?? Oh and did hot girl show up at the grocery store again?


No reason. No reason at all.

lol haven't been back to the grocery store yet. I wouldn't hold your breath on me ever seeing her again.



*frowns and shoves Zeek in direction of grocery store*

*mimes to indicate that hot girls don't go on trees and he should go find her!*




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Monday, February 25, 2008 7:57 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
*frowns and shoves Zeek in direction of grocery store*

*mimes to indicate that hot girls don't go on trees and he should go find her!*


Don't worry I'll have to go eventually.

In the mean time I need to get to work on bioengineering a hottie tree.

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Monday, February 25, 2008 8:05 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


*grabs chalkboard*

*scribbles*

Ask Hell's Kitten! Isn't she moonlighting as some kind of bioengineer lab type person as a sort of secret identity from the ninja things?





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Monday, February 25, 2008 9:04 AM

MSB


HK is all manner of things... some scary, some sweet, some just plain confusing...

Ah yes the joy of being held responsible for someone else's idiocy... management is such fun:(



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Monday, February 25, 2008 9:52 AM

MOBBEX



Dr EVIL

Someone mentioned bioengineering?

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Monday, February 25, 2008 10:18 AM

MSB


OH if only mobbex

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Monday, February 25, 2008 10:22 AM

ZEEK


So, when do you want to retire MsB?

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Monday, February 25, 2008 10:49 AM

MSB


well normally I'd answer at about 55 or so when I've put in my years teaching and have a nice pension... but today I'd say right this very second!!!




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Monday, February 25, 2008 1:33 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Wow. Quiet thread. I never really considered retirement. Guess it would be a good time to start.


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Monday, February 25, 2008 2:24 PM

MSB


well you've plenty of time and all...giggle

Ok home now and off to make one of NV's favorites. Chicken artichoke casserole with paremesan rosemary cream sauce.... sadly no transporter... but in a month ;)

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:21 AM

MSB


ok why has it been so quiet this week?? There's a ponder for us...

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 6:36 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


People are utelizing the warm spots in the country I take it. Sun is out here but no too warm yet.

Here are some funnies posted at H23. I love sharing all of them because we really are quite similar between the boards.

HUGS MSB

Awesome

Can't agree more

Whoda thunk?



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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 6:59 AM

ZEEK


Now that's a yummy fantasy.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:21 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Ain't it so. Demo on a mouse maze, fragging Emo kids, and the sexiest women in FF land.


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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:25 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:

Whoda thunk?




My god, those are some gorgeous womenz. Really...they were great on the show, but Wowzers...space isn't good for a girl's complexion, now is it?

And on that note: *Rugbug enters with head hung in shame* Hiya. I'm all disappointy because I don't get to participate as much as I'd like. Bad, bad Rugbug. Hippie almost killed someone? (not you're fault at ALL) Zeek has a hot grocery store crush (get thee back to the store)? MSB is cooking up more good stuff for her special folks and makes the rest of us drool?

I haven't done anything noteworthy lately. I'm merely surviving right now. Work is psychotic. Horse is fairly sane. I've finished Veronica Mars and have that empty feeling of not getting to live with these characters anymore. Why do all the good shows get cancelled and crap like ER (well...it's become crap) go on for over 10 years?

When would I like to retire: Now. I had one of those 'this is my life?' moments on Sunday night where the next 20 years just stretches out before you in a sad routine of work and not work time. I should get all courageous and adventurous and quit this job and do something real with my life. But then I remember how much I like riding and how much money that all costs.

Best birthday present or activity? Just hanging with friends is good for me. Add a good ride that day and you've got about as perfect as perfect can be.



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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:43 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


So glad to see ya drop by. It's been fairly quiet in these parts. Everyone is just so busy at different times that it gets difficult to catch up with everyone. Yeah, the lack of intelligent programming is getting to me too. I was lucky enough to get Torchwood and Red Dwarf on loan from MSB and there is no tellin' how great it is to have something of incredible interest and insight to watch. Seems after being left with things to watch like Who's My Babies Daddy, Your Kids is Smarter Than Everyone, and the Dirty Secrets About People Who Don't Really Matter it is no wonder people are actually getting out and doing things.

Don't get so down on twenty years. So what if the patterns of living we are accustomed to change little. I see you as being happy and secure with yourself. F anything else and anyone who can't agree with that.


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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:46 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


mornin' (well, afternoon really) Imponderables.


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
A)a hot babe with whom you can have short conversations before she rides your Rodney.
B)a friendly acqaintance whom you can eat with, and call upon for the occasional booty call.


These are my two favorite/preferred of that list from the previous thread.


Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
I gave a student a near fatal asthma attack.


I think you just became my hero for the day.


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
What would your ideal birthday present be??


Not getting anything.


Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
When they find out I almost killed a student and still didn't bend the rules, my reputation will be fucking iron clad.


That's because you're a badass, super-sexy hippie chick. :D


If I ever get to do my ideal job then I don't think I'll ever retire.



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And so it is that we, as men, do not exist until we do; and then it is that we play with our world of existent things, and order and disorder them, and so it shall be that Non-existence shall take us back from Existence, and that nameless Spirituality shall return to Void, like a tired child home from a very wild circus.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:02 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Seems after being left with things to watch like Who's My Babies Daddy, Your Kids is Smarter Than Everyone, and the Dirty Secrets About People Who Don't Really Matter it is no wonder people are actually getting out and doing things.



Oh.My.Freaking.Word. That had me laughing so hard. Reality TV sucks big time. (that would be except for the few that I inevitably get sucked into and watch with a car crash type of fascination).

Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Don't get so down on twenty years. So what if the patterns of living we are accustomed to change little. I see you as being happy and secure with yourself. F anything else and anyone who can't agree with that.



Oh yes. F*#@ 'em all. I'm just down on the monotony and endlessness of work. I want to retire now. I decided on Thursday that I will be independently weathly. 'Course I also decided that the alphabet needs some rearranging. "Y" deserves a place of respect in the alphabet. Afterall, it is a consonant that can sometimes be a vowel. Don't you think it should come before "X" which, while a very cool letter, is mostly useless and should be paired with it's equally useless partner, "Z"? So from now on, it will not longer be 'xyz' but 'yxz'. Either scenario has the same likelihood of happening, which is to say nil.

:D

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