Argh! There be Browncoatish movies out there, if you but know were to look! by BonaNaCroin

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Argh! There be Browncoatish movies out there, if you but know were to look!

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:53 AM

Hello fellow Flans. I realise that waiting for the BDS to come out might take a while, I thought we might sit down and have a little discussion. I would like to see a movie with the following plot; A small group of individuals being pursued or oppressed by a large conglomerate of very nasty gouzaizi, the small group realizing that they are on their own decide to fight even thout there is a snowballs chance they could win. Then I came to a realization that we can have all the polls and letter writing parties and picket F*X till their blue in the face. They won't listen. They only listen to money. So lets talk to them.
Lets get a list of browncoatish movies together. Buy them, rent them, share them with our friends, just get the point across that these movies need to be made. Then we might have a chance to see our BIG DAMN SEQUEL while we are still alive.
MY first two picks are obvious and juvenile but they sould get the ball rolling in the right direction. The first is "The Pirates of the Caribbean, At Worlds End." the other one is "V for Vendetta". They both have that same thread of "We may be broken, but we will not bend." Look forwards to hearing from you.

I dyed my browncoat black for those whom have gone before.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:15 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Way Of The Gun

Open Range

Shogun Assassin

All of the Billy Jack films

Seven Samurai/ Magnificent Seven/ Samurai 7

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:17 PM

BONANACROIN

Nice start now lets go with something futuristic like Equilibrium.

I dyed my browncoat black for those whom have gione before.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:29 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Futuristic? Bladerunner, derr.

I can accept the storyline to Final Fantasy 7 (game, not movie) entertaining and similar to the story of the BDH's.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:54 PM

HIXIE129

Avatar: The Last Airbender

Avatar: The Last Airbender is an award-winning American animated television series that currently airs on the Nickelodeon television network.

Set in an Asian-influenced world of martial arts and elemental manipulation (earth,air,fire,water) the series follows the adventures of the latest of a long line of Avatars. Aang, and his friends in a quest to save the world from the ruthless Fire Nation.

Avatar: The Last Airbender debuted on TV on February 21, 2005. The show is also available on DVD or for download at the iTunes Store. There are over 50 episodes so far….

This is the best animated show I have ever seen……

The Chinese characters 降卋(世)神通 (pinyin:Jiàngshì Shéntōng)

that appear with the English logo translate to
"The divine medium who has descended upon the mortal world."

This is the 3rd season.. Check out this excellent show, I am so hooked on this show and I believe many browcoats would really like it.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:48 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Battle Beyond the Stars.

It's B-movie cheese, I'll grant, but it's damn good cheese!

Bring popcorn.
(Warning, following link contains spoilers)
http://www.badmovies.org/movies/battlebeyond/

The scene where Gelt is introduced actually had a lifestyle changing impact on me as a kid, showing me where the path I originally wanted to take in life ended, so I remember this one very fondly.

"I don't think like you Akirans do, if you think differently, you get called bad."
-Gelt

-F

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:51 PM

CYBERSNARK

Hells yes. Avatar is the best animated show to come out of NorAm (even surpassing Gargoyles, which says a great deal). Most importantly, it's incredibly fun (a vital ingredient in and Firfly comparisons), blending drama, pathos, and wacky comedy at every turn.

Other series/movies I'd recommend are:

Fullmetal Alchemist; two brothers take on a corrupt dictatorship as they search for the Philosopher's Stone (and discover the secrets that surround the stone's creation, and the infiltration of the government). Also, it has a military squad who are almost as gloriously messed-up as our BDH. Roy Mustang is Mal.

Eureka 7; an anime series that centres on the good ship Gekko, an ex-military prototype and her crew of scoundrels, anarchists, nutcases, and outright weirdos, as they rebel against a fascist government and uncover a planet-wide conspiracy to rewrite human history. Mal & company would love these guys.

Also, it's a beautiful love story involving giant robots with surfboards.

Yes, giant robots with surfboards. It's as awesome as it sounds.

Speaking of wacky mecha, it may not be to everyone's taste, but Transformers: Animated is only 10 episodes old, and has already surpassed every previous Transformer series and the movie. Firefly-like? Well, it focuses on a group of five broken-down, under-equipped repair bots (only two of whom have actual military experience [well, one has military experience, the other attended the Academy, but never graduated]) who get in over their heads when they stumble across the Allspark, and become all that stands between it and the Decepticons.

Eventually, when the "real" Autobots (led by Ultra Magnus and the solid tritanium stick up his exhaust port) find them, they'll be in just as much trouble from them as from the 'cons.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:19 PM

TRAVELER

I want to see another "Incredibles".

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 6:01 PM

NCBROWNCOAT

Here's one I bet no one thought of... Silverado.

A small group takes on a corrupt sheriff and landowner without a chance of winning.

Scott Glenn is a dustier Mal. Kevin Costner is the crazy younger brother that can make impossible shots. Kevin Kline has to make the decision whether to be good or bad. Linda Hunt is the saloon owner with a heart of gold. And Danny Glover looks a bit like Jayne with ammo draped all over him and armed with his Daddy's Henry rifle. They aren't even half of the cast of stars.

Add a cattle stampede to rescue a little boy and it sounds something like Mal would dream up.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 6:08 PM

KAYNA

I love my captain

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Seven Samurai/ Magnificent Seven/ Samurai 7

Definatly agree on these. Although I haven't seen Samurai 7, The Seven Samurai and The Magnificent Seven (aka the remake of 7 Sam.) are awesome. I assume that Samurai 7 is basically the same as the other two?

Since we're talking about Samurai, how about The Last Samurai? I usually loath Tom Cruise but this is a very good movie with a Browncoaty feel. A broken down soldier who doesn't really care about anything anymore finds a family and somthing worth fighting and dying for.

As for Anime, Cowboy Bebop may not have the plot you outlined but it has a feel of the 'verse to it.

The original 3:10 to Yuma is good if you can deal with a movie that's 99% dialogue.

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:20 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Star Wars would be an obvious choice. But perhaps we should add a restriction of NO ALIENS to keep the browncoat ties strong.

How about Arthur (Clive Owen). Or The Last Legion.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:40 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Dead Presidents. Great flick about the down trodden disillusioned soldiers who find a way to utelize the funds slated for destruction. From the acting all the way down to the incredible soundtrack it mirrors the BDS in a lot of ways.

Samurai 7 actually

Select to view spoiler:

Shows how a small group of soldiers fights against the oppression of evil but ends up tapping into the ultimate evil of the time, the government is the actual oppressor demanding goods and services from the bantitos and supporting them with arms and immunity.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:01 AM

CHRISISALL

OUTLAND.
QUIGLEY DOWN UNDER.

'NUFFSAIDisall

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:16 AM

REGINAROADIE

I wrote a blog about this, but I think NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN is a bit Browncoatish. Moss is very Jayneish in terms of facial hair, not much of a talker, resourceful and good with weapons. And him and Carla Jean together is like seeing Jayne and Kaylee as a couple. Chigur I think can easily beat The Operative in terms of ruthless efficiency and cold bloodedness. And the landscapes of the movie could easily fit into the 'verse.

I'd have loved to have seen an ep of FIREFLY in the style of Cormac McCarthy. Little to no dialogue, very violent and very bleak.

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"And it starts with a sentence that might last a lifetime, or it all might just go down in flames. If I let you know me, then why would you want me? Each day I don't is a shame. Each day I don't is a great shame."

Loudon Wainwright III - "Strange Weirdos" off the "Knocked Up" soundtrack

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:30 AM

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Battle Beyond the Stars.

It's B-movie cheese, I'll grant, but it's damn good cheese!

this film could have been called Battle Beyond the D-Cup...!

it just my imagination, or does this ship have really large breasts...?

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:35 AM

CHRISISALL

Not your imagination.
Did ya know it was written by James Cameron?

Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:39 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Bwahaha.

Nell's a Corsair, a pirate ship - so hell yeah, instead of a well endowed figurehead they just put em on the ship itself.

Of course... if I had found myself in Shads place this woulda been a damn short movie.

Doc H - "I want you to stay here, bang my pretty, virginal daughter silly all day long and spawn hundreds of rowdy children."

Me - "Okay."

/Roll Credits.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention it, but my bio-father is actually a dead ringer for the guy who plays Sador...

When I get all ranty, melodramatic and start monologin, she starts callin me SonOfSador....
Heh heh heh

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:42 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Kinda make sense why it was so craptacular.

I thought of Quigley too.

How 'bout The Wild Bunch. C'mon, even Adam mentioned wanting to be a badass like Warren Oates.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:46 AM

NCBROWNCOAT

Quote:
Originally posted by Kayna:
Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Seven Samurai/ Magnificent Seven/ Samurai 7

Definatly agree on these. Although I haven't seen Samurai 7, The Seven Samurai and The Magnificent Seven (aka the remake of 7 Sam.) are awesome. I assume that Samurai 7 is basically the same as the other two?

Since we're talking about Samurai, how about The Last Samurai? I usually loath Tom Cruise but this is a very good movie with a Browncoaty feel. A broken down soldier who doesn't really care about anything anymore finds a family and somthing worth fighting and dying for.

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

Loved the Magnificant Seven. As for The Last Samurai, Ken Wantabe's character fits better. He knows his cause is lost, yet he fights despite the odds. More than a bit of Mal in his character.

IMHO Wantanabe also acted circles around Cruise in that movie. I think he got a Best Actor nomination for it.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:50 AM

MUGGI

Quote:
Originally posted by deadlockvictim:
Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Battle Beyond the Stars.

it just my imagination, or does this ship have really large breasts...?

I don't know about breasts, but it looks like a fairly accurate model of female reproductive anatomy.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:50 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Wow - no one's even mentioned one of my favorite movies of all time: The Outlaw Josey Wales. It's chock full of outlaws, rebels, thuggish government types, and the tiny band of lost souls who can't win, but must fight. I always thought Eastwood should easily have won an Oscar for that one (be it for directing or starring), but it wasn't even nominated.

Mike

"We got us the Josey Wales. Mean as a rattlesnake, and twice as fast, they say."

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:13 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER

One of the greatest (IMHO) westerns ever. Awe-F-ing-some!

And yes, Ken Wantanabe is the best ever over the Cruise ass-hat any gorram day of the week.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:32 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Oh hell yes.

The fact that he goes off and actually NEGOTIATES with the Comanche, always struck me as defining Joseys character as a person.
(I LOVE that whole dialogue!)

He'd rather not fight you, live and let live, but if it does come to it, he doesn't balk at delivering it first.

Chief Dan George (Lone Watie) also does an excellent job of his part as well in that flick.

Watie:"How'd you know which one was gonna to shoot first?"

Josie: "Well, that one in the center, he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry, And the one second from the left, he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin, But that one on the far left, he had crazy eyes, Figured him to make the first move."

Watie: "How 'bout the one on the right?"

Josie: "Never paid him no mind, you were there."

...
...

Watie: "I coulda missed."

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:40 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Chief Dan George has been one of my personal heroes since I was a child. If you haven't seen Little Big Man it is a definite must see. Dustin Hoffman is fabulous in his role. It too relates well with the BDS where we have our main character torn between worlds doing his best for him and his.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:44 AM

SPACEANJL

'Unforgiven' Actually, most anything Eastwood. But you watch 'Unforgiven', you know pretty much what Jayne's Pa looks like. (A cross between William Munny and Whistler, IMO.)

Oddly enough, if you look at the Companion House, any of the recent wu xiu flicks would do, especially 'House of Flying Daggers.' And Mal and Inara's relationship? 'Casablanca'.

Dunno about movies, but there are a lot of books that have a 'Verse-ish feel. Did we do a thread about those?

edit: caught a bit of a film the other day, John Wayne and Katherine Hepburn. There was a scene involving a raft on the river, which was pure opening scene of 'OMR'.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:48 AM

JONGSSTRAW

A lot of good movies here...may I suggest Local Hero as a movie that fits this bill : A high-powered Texas oil negotiator travels to Scotland to negotiate a deal, but instead, he learns a few lessons about what's important in life, and he is forever changed...one of my all time favorites.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:52 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Huh. Naturally I have to include the Billy Jack flicks. (Ducks)

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:56 PM

BONANACROIN

Quote:

edit: caught a bit of a film the other day, John Wayne and Katherine Hepburn. There was a scene involving a raft on the river, which was pure opening scene of 'OMR'.

The movie was Rooster Cogburn, the sequal to True Grit. It was the only movie John Wayne was ever nominated for an acadamy award,

I dyed my browncoat black for those whom have gone before.

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:00 PM

KAYNA

I love my captain

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Wow - no one's even mentioned one of my favorite movies of all time: The Outlaw Josey Wales

Oh wow! I haven't seen that movie since I was 10! I don't remember much more than that I enjoyed it. Must go dig up Dad's VHS. He has pretty much every Clint movie up through the late 90's. That includes Paint Your Wagon. Clint Eastwood sings and so does Lee Marvin...Sort of.

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:13 PM

KAYNA

I love my captain

Quote:
Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:
IMHO Wantanabe also acted circles around Cruise in that movie.

Well yeah.
Ken Watanabe is just a much better actor.

I only mentioned Cruise because I usually avoid his movies like the plague. I actually had to be tricked into watching this flick.

sorry for the double post

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:42 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

I would suggest:
Hero (Hoffman, Garcia, Davis, Chase, Cusack, Cusack, Herrman, O'Connor, Tobolowsky, Fischer, etc.)
The Gauntlet.
Die Hard.
The Coca Cola Kid.
The Fifth Element?

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Sunday, March 2, 2008 6:56 PM

DIRTWEED

Hmmmm not much for movie recommendations. I see some people posted Anime stuffs.

One Space Western cartoon I liked was Galaxy Rangers....OK well not all of the episodes, but quite a few were serious as Chris Rowley and Mick Farren intended them to be before the higher ups decided to dumb it down.

As far a reading goes pick up some books by Mick Farren (if you can find them). Phaid the Gambler is an EXCELLENT series to read and put one in a
Browncoatish way.

D

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Sunday, March 2, 2008 10:00 PM

BROWNCOAT2007

Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Eureka 7; an anime series that centres on the good ship Gekko, an ex-military prototype and her crew of scoundrels, anarchists, nutcases, and outright weirdos, as they rebel against a fascist government and uncover a planet-wide conspiracy to rewrite human history. Mal & company would love these guys.

Also, it's a beautiful love story involving giant robots with surfboards.

Yes, giant robots with surfboards. It's as awesome as it sounds.

Oh my f-in GOD!!! I LOVED that show!!! Must... resist... urge... to... WATCH-THE-WHOLE-DAMN-THING-IN-ONE-GO-AT-2AM!!!!

Speaking Giant Mecha, anyone here see Big O or Raxphon(sp?)? My GOD Raxphon is amazing, and I personally feel it's got a bit of a browncoat-ie feel to it...

Aliens have taken over the Earth and look like you or I, but keep the people trapped in a bubble which they belive is their actual state? And one kid busts out and starts a (almost) single handed fight against the whole damn invading force in one single mecha??

... That and it's really musically based, and the art and voice actors and... *sighs* everything is just so damn shiney in that show :D

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Saturday, March 8, 2008 8:58 PM

BONANACROIN

Quote:
Originally posted by Dirtweed:
Hmmmm not much for movie recommendations. I see some people posted Anime stuffs.

One Space Western cartoon I liked was Galaxy Rangers....OK well not all of the episodes, but quite a few were serious as Chris Rowley and Mick Farren intended them to be before the higher ups decided to dumb it down.

As far a reading goes pick up some books by Mick Farren (if you can find them). Phaid the Gambler is an EXCELLENT series to read and put one in a
Browncoatish way.

D

I haven't seen that in years and I wish they had some on tape!

i dyed my browncoat black for those whom have gone before.

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Saturday, March 8, 2008 11:58 PM

ZEROKIRYU

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat2007:
Speaking Giant Mecha, anyone here see Big O or Raxphon(sp?)?

I could never get into Big O.

Rahxephon was okay, but I prefer the mindfuck that is Evangelion.

And I would have to agree that Cowboy Bebop and Samurai 7 have that Browncoaty-ness feel.

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