Does anyone else think Firefly is a little like Heinlein books? by sgtgump

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Does anyone else think Firefly is a little like Heinlein books?

POSTED BY: SGTGUMP
UPDATED: Friday, May 7, 2004 09:27
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Thursday, May 6, 2004 8:06 PM

I read a lot of Robert A. Heinlein and I think that there are a lot of similarities. Not so much as any of the characters or story lines, but the Firefly 'Verse seems to be about the same as a lot of Heinlein's earlier books. What do you guys think?

"Well here's somethin' I been workin' on. Why don't we shoot her first?" -Jayne

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Thursday, May 6, 2004 10:09 PM

GUNHAND

I can see a little of it, mostly in the feel more than the actual setting if that makes much sense.

And for some reason the Unification War gives me some Joe Haldeman Forever War vibes.

If we get to see more of the war I think the Heinlein/Haldeman vibe would be ramped up some because they're two authors that handled future ground war as more than just a sideshow to the flashy space war we usually get to see.

So basically, yep a bit.

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Friday, May 7, 2004 1:04 AM

HAWKMOTH

Yes--I mentioned in another forum last year that the FF 'verse, especically the mixture of high tech and frontier living reminded me strongly of one section of "Time Enough For Love." The part where Lazarus Long lived out a "lifetime" on the backwater planet, pioneering out on the wilderness with Dora.

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Friday, May 7, 2004 2:20 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

I love Heinlein too, been reading and rereading his stuff for over 35 years, and I agree with you. Not only about the pioneering parts reminding me of "The Tale of the Adopted Daughter" in Time Enough For Love, but also the apparent libertarian philosophy of Mal in particular. Another of his books that could be easily adapted into a story arc on Firefly (with a few changes of course) would be Citizen of the Galaxy, with Mal rescuing Thorby from the slavers and delivering him to the Free Traders.

I would bet anything that Joss has read some Heinlein too, and let's not forget that Tim Minear is working on an adaptation of The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, my personal favorite of all of RAH's novels.

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Friday, May 7, 2004 2:56 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Yep.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, May 7, 2004 4:24 AM

DTT

I definitely see it. I "discovered" Heinlein a few years ago, and I ripped through his books voraciously. One of my fav. Heinlein quotes is from The Puppet Masters:

The price of freedom is the wilingness to do sudden battle, anywhere, anytime, and with utter recklessness.

It's kind of a Mal-ish philosophy. When the crew's in trouble, don't take the time to fret over whether or not killin' is right. You can feel guilty all you want later, but dead crew don't come back.

"You didn't have to wound that man."
"Yeah, I know. It was just funny."

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Friday, May 7, 2004 9:27 AM

RUTHIE

Yup - a lot like Heinlein.
We've had several threads on this theme before (I know because I started one :P) -
you may like to look over these for some interesting input and discussion on the subject.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=2198
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=2206
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=3473

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By the data to date, there is only one animal in the Galaxy dangerous to man - man himself. So he must supply his own indispensable competition. He has no enemy to help him. (R.A.Heinlein)

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