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I know you dont forgive FOX for canceling Firefly, I understand. But I think it's time to stop using FOX as a swear word, T:TSCC is on FOX, so is BONES and the upcoming Dollhouse. Everytime FOX cancels a show you like, GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!!!!! ABC, NBC and CBS does'nt get this kind of grief!

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Originally posted by KonstantinDK:
They just cancled Moonlight. There's nothing else to watch there.

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Originally posted by Alliethorn7:
Children, play nice.
No need to go off fucking cursing at everything!

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Originally posted by whozit:
I know you dont forgive FOX for canceling Firefly, I understand. But I think it's time to stop using FOX as a swear word, T:TSCC is on FOX, so is BONES and the upcoming Dollhouse. Everytime FOX cancels a show you like, GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!!!!! ABC, NBC and CBS does'nt get this kind of grief!

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Originally posted by KonstantinDK:
They just cancled Moonlight. There's nothing else to watch there.

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Sorry, but you can't blame FOX for that. Moonlight was on CBS.

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Originally posted by KonstantinDK:
They just cancled Moonlight. There's nothing else to watch there.

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Sorry, but you can't blame FOX for that. Moonlight was on CBS.

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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
Fox, ABC, NBC and CBS only care about making money. They couldn't care less about quality programs.

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You are right "vulgar breath" we should stop complaining that such a good show was cancelled before its time.

Actually, I take that back. We don't want your kind around here, because we have every right to despise a tv station that eliminates good shows. You should take a Jubal Early walk through space.

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I know you dont forgive FOX for canceling Firefly, I understand. But I think it's time to stop using FOX as a swear word, T:TSCC is on FOX, so is BONES and the upcoming Dollhouse. Everytime FOX cancels a show you like, GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!!!!! ABC, NBC and CBS does'nt get this kind of grief

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Originally posted by sirThomas:
FOX did not just cancel Firefly. They had Joss completely change the way that the series was to be show. Do you read a book and start at chapter 12, then read chapter 3, and then just for fun read chapter 1 but decided to not read the whole chapter and instead opt for just putting it down for awhile.

FOX told Joss that they did not like the pilot episode and wanted a different one. That’s where the “Train Job” episode comes from, which was written in a weekend. Then FOX, being the great geniuses of that they are, decided that the original pilot episode was to long and needed to be split into 2 parts. What FOX did by butchering the order that Firefly was meant to be played in the cursed it. People who I know that did not like the series when it was on FOX, but have now seen the episode in continuity, the way that they should and were meant to be shown, love the series. FOX’s decisions caused people to not know who the characters are, what are they doing, and why the hell it looks like some western / science fiction / slight Star Wars feel. So they did not watch, and FOX not knowing why no one was watching, canceled the show.

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This part of your post was good, but the fact that you felt the need to resort to name calling ruined it for me.

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Originally posted by FollowMal:
I think this is the most name calling and harshness I've seen around here in awhile.

It makes me uncomfortable and makes me not want to hang around this place I used to call home.

Shows get made, shows get canceled, shows do well and go on for awhile. Networks replace them, time passes and folks find things to interest them once again. This is the way of it. It's called business and it's the way the world works. Like it or no.

It's still not a reason for folks around here to be unkind to each other. This is a forum where we used to be able to express ourselves without resorting to name calling and ugliness. Where we accepted differences of opinion and let each other be ourselves.

I miss those days.

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Originally posted by sirThomas:
Guys come on, you have to lighten up some. This site is fun. Just because people call people names, or pick on someone else because they have different views on something, doesn’t mean it’s the end of the world. What I was saying about the person that made the first post was supposed to be humorous.

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FOX did more then cancel Firefly, the fucked them, then fired them. Kind of like your mom, sorry I had to fit that one in there couldn’t help it.

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Honestly, for this stuff to make you uncomfortable, you may want to consider not hanging around. I’m not saying this to harass you are to pick on you. I’m just saying don’t get so worked up over something this trivial. If your expecting for people who disagree not to start ribbing on each other then your living in a dream world. It’s going to happen, not just here, but every where.

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Originally posted by traveler:
Thank God for Public Broadcasting. Just watched the program called "FDR". It was excellent. Public Broadcasting has programs like this all the time. If I measured my time I would say 80% of my TV viewing is Public Broadcasting.

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So if anyone from one of the commercial networks is reading this, I doubt it, learn a lesson and start putting some intellegent programing on the air instead of this infantile dodo you are feeding the masses.

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So I am buying DVD's of the programs I like.

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So do I hate FOX. Lets just say I am angry with them. I know every season they are going to do the same thing. Bring out a superb program and pull it off the air before it has a chance to create a following.

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Originally posted by traveler:
Thank God for Public Broadcasting. Just watched the program called "FDR". It was excellent. Public Broadcasting has programs like this all the time. If I measured my time I would say 80% of my TV viewing is Public Broadcasting.

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I do the same, Traveler. I scout PBS, Discovery and all the educational programming I have on my cable service and watch it. Line it up, literally. I watch tv on pay channels as well and I watch regular tv too. But the bulk of my tv watching other than picking the scifi shows I love and making time for them is PBS or educational.
I loathe reality and game shows. Personal opinion: I won't waste my valuable time on them.

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So if anyone from one of the commercial networks is reading this, I doubt it, learn a lesson and start putting some intellegent programing on the air instead of this infantile dodo you are feeding the masses.

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I don't think they're listening, Traveler, but I'm right there with you wishing they would!

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So I am buying DVD's of the programs I like.

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Me too. Just read on another board that my fave from last year Life will be out on DVD! YAY!

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So do I hate FOX. Lets just say I am angry with them. I know every season they are going to do the same thing. Bring out a superb program and pull it off the air before it has a chance to create a following.

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This is the way of all the networks. CBS canceled Moonlight and Jericho. NBC canceled Bionic Woman. Fox renewed T:TSCC, but canceled New Amsterdam. Not much we can change about it, only enjoy what they give us, miss what goes away and look forward to the new stuff. Which I'm consistently doing now.

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Originally posted by traveler:
This mutant WHOZIT just stopped in to cause trouble and left.

TV in general is a messed up commodity.
"Drive" lasted about three or four episodes.
TV news shows were originally informative and mature, but now they create sensational items just to get ratings because they need to make a profit. If I hear anything more about Britney or Paris I'll throw my can of cheesewiz through the picture tube.

The other networks are not much different than FOX. I just notice that FOX has a bad record promoting some of the best programs they get handed. I discovered Wonderfalls the same way I discovered Firefly; after the show was already off the air. This is FOX's track record. As I have read through this thread a number of other programs were mentioned that received this exact treatment. Someone at FOX is not getting it.

I spend far less time in front of my TV set then I used to because there is far less intellegent programing on the air. I'm sorry, but seeing a band of people eating rice on a island and plotting to remove each other from the island just does not appeal to me. Nor does watching some person pick one aluminum suitcase after another trying to find a million bucks. Who cares!

Thank God for Public Broadcasting. Just watched the program called "FDR". It was excellent. Public Broadcasting has programs like this all the time. If I measured my time I would say 80% of my TV viewing is Public Broadcasting. So if anyone from one of the commercial networks is reading this, I doubt it, learn a lesson and start putting some intellegent programing on the air instead of this infantile dodo you are feeding the masses.

So I am buying DVD's of the programs I like. The rest I leave for others to watch "Deal or no Deal". It is a waste of time convincing people, who only see dollar signs, that they have can produce quality programs and still make a profit. They just want quick and dirty programs without any brains attached to them. God forbid that a person needs to have a mind to watch TV any more. I can take some mindless programing to escape with, but this is overload.

So do I hate FOX. Lets just say I am angry with them. I know every season they are going to do the same thing. Bring out a superb program and pull it off the air before it has a chance to create a following.

Meanwhile I'll just keep finding gems like Firefly and buying the DVD's.

traveler


http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
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Originally posted by traveler:


The FOX bashing threads are a very small minority. I do not see us focusing on it like maniacs.

It usually happens in the spring when FOX introduces us to a new show like "Drive" and then cancels it after three episodes. So when they do this I think we are justified in grumbling about it. FOX just keeps doing again and again. But for the rest of the year we return to positive things like, "What does a space monkey look like?"

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Originally posted by whozit:
I know you dont forgive FOX for canceling Firefly, I understand. But I think it's time to stop using FOX as a swear word, T:TSCC is on FOX, so is BONES and the upcoming Dollhouse. Everytime FOX cancels a show you like, GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!!!!! ABC, NBC and CBS does'nt get this kind of grief!

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Perhaps some people here are like that. But, there are some of us that don't like F*X for other reasons. Like, perhaps, they are serial cancellers. So much so, that every time they come out with a new show, and it's good, I think, "So, when is this going to get cancelled?" Typically, very soon. So, I pretty much ignore them and don't really get invested in anything that they produce any more.

Too many times.

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Me personally I dropped Fox after they cancelled Firefly. The only things on Fox I have watched since are shows that had our BDHs in them. The rest Fox can shove in their uncomfortable spot where the sun don't shine.

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Originally posted by whozit:
I know you dont forgive FOX for canceling Firefly, I understand. But I think it's time to stop using FOX as a swear word, T:TSCC is on FOX, so is BONES and the upcoming Dollhouse. Everytime FOX cancels a show you like, GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!!!!! ABC, NBC and CBS does'nt get this kind of grief!

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Perhaps some people here are like that. But, there are some of us that don't like F*X for other reasons. Like, perhaps, they are serial cancellers. So much so, that every time they come out with a new show, and it's good, I think, "So, when is this going to get cancelled?" Typically, very soon. So, I pretty much ignore them and don't really get invested in anything that they produce any more.

Too many times.

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SigmaNunki is right; Fox is a network that is guilty of serial cancelling. Lots of great shows and damn near every sci fi show they ever aired all cancelled and relegated to the trash heap.

Get over it? Who are you to tell anyone else what to do? Live and let live. You want to watch Fox, feel free. If others here don't want to watch them, that's fine too. Free country last time I looked. Seems the only one here spoutin' off is you.

Me personally I dropped Fox after they cancelled Firefly. The only things on Fox I have watched since are shows that had our BDHs in them. The rest Fox can shove in their uncomfortable spot where the sun don't shine.

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You people are rite [sic]! How dare FOX dump great shows like "A minute with Stan Hooper" and keep garbage like 24 & HOUSE on the air. We should send FOX blistering E-mails!

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For every "Stan Hooper" that deserved cancellation (not actually sure it did since I never saw it) there are many more that deserved a better fate. Not only Firefly, but also Wonderfalls, Futurama, The Lone Gunmen, Brimstone, Space Above and Beyond, The Adventures of Brisco County Jr., Sliders, The Tick, VR.5, etc, etc, etc. While FOX is not alone in this practice, they certainly have done more than their fair share considering the age of the network compared to the Big Three.




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Originally posted by zerokiryu:

I've been a member here for a little over a year and your posts are the some of the most rudest things I've read here. (I don't go into RWED) And ribbing someone and downright insulting them are two different things, and what you said was not ribbing.

The poster voiced his/her opinion, you voiced yours and then felt the need to insult his/her mother anong various insults to his/her intelligence.

And then you go on to say that if we don't like it we shouldn't hang around here? I don't even know what to say about this comment except this makes you look even more trollish.

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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
Fox, ABC, NBC and CBS only care about making money. They couldn't care less about quality programs.

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You are right "vulgar breath" we should stop complaining that such a good show was cancelled before its time.

Actually, I take that back. We don't want your kind around here, because we have every right to despise a tv station that eliminates good shows. You should take a Jubal Early walk through space.

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