thought of an interesting crossover...... by optimus1998

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thought of an interesting crossover......

POSTED BY: OPTIMUS1998
UPDATED: Friday, May 21, 2004 05:07
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Saturday, May 15, 2004 7:23 PM

OPTIMUS1998

keep in mind this is pure fantasy, conceived by a mind with WAY too much free time, but what if...

turns out the reavers are really vampires.
eatrh having been used up/destroyed, what have you, they gotta go some where...

also , wouldn't it be cool if our beloved crew picked up an new passenger, Spike (that is if he survives the finale)

it would be kinda good to see what 500 odd years would do to the character.(Remember, pure fantsy, too much time on my hands)

i think this type of thing would be very cool, and would also tie the whole Jossverse together, but it would also, at the same time, cheapen the ENTIRE joss verse. which is why as cool as it would be, i hope that it wouldnever come to be.

if anyone feels the above is thew dumbest idea you've ever heard, i apologise for wasting your time, i just needed to get this out of my head.
--Optimus1998

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 7:45 PM

RIV

It's actually not a BAD idea. I once read a fic where Spike was on the ship and River gave him a new name. I always wanted the author to go on with it, but that never happened.

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 7:56 PM

BIKISDAD

Yeah, actually, that would make a perfectly plausible explanation for Reavers. Also, Spike with our crew; That'd be so cool. And it could turn out that Shephard Book is a member of the Watcher's Council, or whatever they are called 500 years after Giles reforms them.... That would explain his mysterious past. I like it!

"That'll put marzipan on your pie plate, bingo!"

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 9:15 PM

CAGEYBEE

in my far too much leisure time, i got the notion...what if spike's hair is blue, instead of platinum, when they find him? is his brain contaminated? can he bleed from his eyes if his heart doesn't beat? plus, i just want to see one character from the jossverse with blue hair, just once.....it was this phase i had when i was younger, ok? my mom was so pissed that i wasted sooooo much blue kool-aid.

me

~Mal- "how drunk was i last night?"
~Jayne- "i don't know. i passed out."

gunhand is, in fact, not a mean old man, just slightly past his prime and slightly morally ambiguous.

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 9:55 PM

GUNHAND

Interesting theory but...

...if it's true I will cover myself in gasoline and pretend I'm a Budhist monk crica '65 right in front of the Chinese theatre in LA. I have a bunch of Zippos too, don't make me use 'em.

That would seriously muck up a good thing in my opinion.

I never had blue hair. Just purple. I'm a traditionalist.

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around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 5:05 AM

CYBERSNARK

Actually, I would've liked to see a Buffy or Angel episode in a space-opera environment, if only for speculation on vampire physics.

Vamps don't burst into flame under starlight, so apparently it's only the light of their home star that's fatal. So, how far away does a vampire have to get from Earth before Sol is just another spec of light?

If they don't have to breath, can vampires also survive the freezing temperatures and depressurization of hard vacuum?

The no entry unless invited; does that apply to ships or just personal quarters (shades of Early's musing on "River's room" in OiS)?

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 9:35 AM

PEACE

I think crossovers between the two 'verses would be a basic mistake; the two are founded on basically different paradigms. Mingling the two would only create confusion and drag both sotrylines down, imo.

I do generally enjoy it when authors interconnect their imaginative universes, if the fundamental workings of each world can be meshed into a comprehensible whole. This is where I think (and hope) S.M. Stirling is going with his various alternative history stories. But we have seen no hint of anything of the supernatural in FF; it appears to be a straight-up, material-world sci-fi tale. To introduce a supernatural element after setting up the fundamental premises of its reality would be a jarring mistake.

I would, however, watch a Spike spin-off, or the further tales of the Slayer Army, but successfully crossing these two 'verses is probably not in the cards.

Oh, bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up!

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 6:24 PM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1

Quote:
Originally posted by cageybee:
in my far too much leisure time, i got the notion...what if spike's hair is blue, instead of platinum, when they find him? is his brain contaminated? can he bleed from his eyes if his heart doesn't beat? plus, i just want to see one character from the jossverse with blue hair, just once.....it was this phase i had when i was younger, ok? my mom was so pissed that i wasted sooooo much blue kool-aid.

me

~Mal- "how drunk was i last night?"
~Jayne- "i don't know. i passed out."

gunhand is, in fact, not a mean old man, just slightly past his prime and slightly morally ambiguous.

What, Illyria's hair isn't blue enough for you?

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MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 6:30 PM

CAGEYBEE

illyria's hair is not blue enough for me, no. its black too, or some similarly lack-of-color color. i want sky blue, like the gloves...which may not be sky blue.

me

~Mal- "how drunk was i last night?"
~Jayne- "i don't know. i passed out."

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Monday, May 17, 2004 10:05 AM

DELIA

Quote:
Originally posted by optimus1998:
Wouldn't it be cool if our beloved crew picked up an new passenger, Spike (that is if he survives the finale)

it would be kinda good to see what 500 odd years would do to the character.

Well, if we follow the premise, he'll probably have uglied up a bit. He'd be somewhere between 600-700 years old, which was long enough to give The Master cloven feet and not-so-human looks.

But a neat idea.

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GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:52 AM

MANTICHORUS

Quote:
Originally posted by bikisdad:
Yeah, actually, that would make a perfectly plausible explanation for Reavers. Also, Spike with our crew; That'd be so cool. And it could turn out that Shephard Book is a member of the Watcher's Council, or whatever they are called 500 years after Giles reforms them.... That would explain his mysterious past. I like it!

Yeah... Yeahhhh... Only one problem, amigoes:
Select to view spoiler:
Spike died at the end of BtVS

I've been thinkin' of a Red Dwarf/Firefly crossover (RD has already covered the whole alternate universes thing...) Anyone care to comment on my sanity, or there lack of?

"BADGER: You think you're better than other people.
MAL: Just the ones I'm better than."
"I'm not an adult! I don't want to create responsible shows with lawyers in them. I want to invade people's dreams." - Joss Whedon

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:00 AM

CYBERSNARK

Bit outta the loop about Spike, are we?

Quote:
Originally posted by Delia:
Well, if we follow the premise, he'll probably have uglied up a bit. He'd be somewhere between 600-700 years old, which was long enough to give The Master cloven feet and not-so-human looks.

The Master didn't have hooves. You're thinking of Kakistos, the Greek --who was around for only one episode. The Master apparently wasn't that old. He just looked like Nosferatu, but all wrinkly-faced.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:38 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...

Quote:
Originally posted by Mantichorus:
Quote:
Originally posted by bikisdad:
Yeah, actually, that would make a perfectly plausible explanation for Reavers. Also, Spike with our crew; That'd be so cool. And it could turn out that Shephard Book is a member of the Watcher's Council, or whatever they are called 500 years after Giles reforms them.... That would explain his mysterious past. I like it!

Yeah... Yeahhhh... Only one problem, amigoes:
Select to view spoiler:
Spike died at the end of BtVS

I think you're forgetting that Spike came back to life in the begining of Angel season 5...

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:50 AM

MANTICHORUS

Quote:
Originally posted by SoulOfSerenity:
I think you're forgetting that Spike came back to life in the begining of Angel season 5...

No I'm not... I haven't seen Angel season 5 yet!!!

DAMN TERRESTRIAL TV!!!

"BADGER: You think you're better than other people.
MAL: Just the ones I'm better than."
"I'm not an adult! I don't want to create responsible shows with lawyers in them. I want to invade people's dreams." - Joss Whedon

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:33 AM

SKYDANCE

Hey! Does that mean the thing about Spike coming back to life is technically a spoiler? *laughs*

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:37 AM

DELIA

Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
The Master didn't have hooves. You're thinking of Kakistos, the Greek --who was around for only one episode. The Master apparently wasn't that old. He just looked like Nosferatu, but all wrinkly-faced.

Oops. Sorry -- let's put it down to end of semester brain fry. But I don't want James Marsters looking like Nosferatu, either!

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WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:11 AM

KNIBBLET

Quote:
Originally posted by Mantichorus:
Select to view spoiler:
Spike died at the end of BtVS

QUOTE]
I see your spoiler and raise you hope ...
Select to view spoiler:

But was brought back to life in Angel. His soul had been held captive in the amulet. It's amazing what magic can do. Powerful mojo at work.

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Friday, May 21, 2004 1:36 AM

MANTICHORUS

:Finally stops due to migrane: Oww... Where's Simon Tam when ya need him?
Anyway, don't worry about spoiling it. I'd heard rumours.
My reason for updating this is 'cause I've thought of something... Maybe Book could be a descendant of (Robert?) Wood, from the last series of BtVS.
One more thing... Didn't Nathan Fillion appear as 'Caleb' (sp?) in BtVS?

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"BADGER: You think you're better than other people.
MAL: Just the ones I'm better than."
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"MAL: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous.
SIMON: Yes, I'm very proud."

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Friday, May 21, 2004 2:20 AM

WEERWOLF

In the tv series American Gothic was a character called Caleb, the boy that was fathered by the evil sheriff. I've still got two episodes of Buffy to go here but are Caleb's origins ever explained?

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Friday, May 21, 2004 5:07 AM

JONTHEBROWNCOAT

Somebody on ealier thread was talkin' about how both Firefly and the Buffy/Angel universe are the same and that after the Apocalypse we get the "Earth was was" and the demons are all banished. Could a Reaver simply be a Vamp that has lost his Demon side? just a thought....

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