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Imponderables- bubble baths and chocolate

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Monday, May 4, 2009 4:31 AM

MSA


Morning all

Old thread is here
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=38057&m=699776#699776


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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.


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Monday, May 4, 2009 5:04 AM

ZEEK


Firsties? Wake up people it's Monday!

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Monday, May 4, 2009 5:38 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Aww, do I have to?

Okay...

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Monday, May 4, 2009 10:33 AM

ZEEK


Quiet day today. Anybody seen any good movies? I hear wolverine was trash, but I'm not going to bother. They botched X3 so badly they don't deserve any of my $$$. I'm ready for a full reboot that sticks to the comics more than tries to fit the characters into the real world.

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Monday, May 4, 2009 10:47 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I'd give it a try. Like the rest of the flicks there is just a ton of stuff off about the whole mess. I looked past the fact that Huge Jackoff is a terrible Logan and the storyline is way off. It was actually a pretty good rendering of (a) version of Logan. Despite the hype and low expectations I set it did not turn out too bad.

Now, Logan and (character deleted to avoid spoilage) ride into (town deleted) on motorcycles in the fashion Johnny Blaze and Dan Ketch would in the Ghostrider movie I would have made. A ton of frame and caps do an awesome job capturing frame art styles seen in comics.

I'd say catch it at a cheap matinee, sneak in snacks, and settle in with a foutain drink on a hot day.

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Monday, May 4, 2009 11:12 AM

ZEEK


Meh I'll wait til it shows up on cable. I'm going to give Terminator a shot later this month though. Christian Bale's been on fire lately. So, I'm hoping he read the script and knows it's going to be good. I could easily see them going way way wrong with it though.

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Monday, May 4, 2009 11:16 AM

MSA


bout 1/4 of the way in I had to just turn of my head 'cause I was starting to mutter to myself. It's really not bad, though Logan's a bit , well overly emotive for him.
Just delete about 80% of the weapon X story line and all is well

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Monday, May 4, 2009 11:18 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
bout 1/4 of the way in I had to just turn of my head 'cause I was starting to mutter to myself. It's really not bad, though Logan's a bit , well overly emotive for him.
Just delete about 80% of the weapon X story line and all is well


I can only do that for movies in their own little universe that they create. If it's about a book or based on something I already know about I can never just turn my brain off. I just get more and more upset by the stupid junk they change that ends up worse than the material they had to start from.

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Monday, May 4, 2009 11:19 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Star Trek and Terminator is also on my list. Not so sure why Trek is, but I've seen all the Terminator movies in the theater or the drive-in and this one looks pretty bad-ass.

ADD: There are so many alternate X-verse thingies that I don't really have a favorite. Daredevil suffered endlessly for the reason you noted. Miller Man Without Fear is my favorite, but without giving props to other writers I guess there would have been static. The last Punisher flick was the shit!

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Monday, May 4, 2009 11:58 AM

ZEEK


They're doing a good job of promoting Star Trek. I'm boycotting for the crappiness that is Lost. Both J.J. Abrams projects. I'll catch both Wolvie and Trek on cable sometime I'm sure.

Actually after Terminator I'm not sure there's anything I'm waiting to be released this summer. For shame hollywood. Seriously there have to be at like 10 movie franchises that are like shooting fish in a barrel and there's like 1 movie I want to see? Lame.

For instance I heard the rumor they were shooting the next to Spiderman movies back to back. That's the way to go really. Get a killer franchise and just get a cash hose and point it at the stars. Get them to hang around twice as long and you'll cut down the lag time between movies a ton and people will still show up. It's not like Lord of the Rings suffered releasing each part one year after another. Put like a 2 year span between Spiderman movies and just roll in the piles of cash you'll make. There are a ton of spidey villians to work with and there's always an opening to revive past ones.

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Monday, May 4, 2009 12:12 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I've been kinda over the Spidey stuff for a time. Still good, just doesn't intrest me like it (kinda) did before. Now, Sam Raimi has Drag Me To Hell coming out on the 29th.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1127180/
I actually want to see it. But is seems we have to wait as MSA more than likely won't be able to handle it on the big screen.
G.I. Joe in August. I like the idea, but it already seems way too hyped to be completely enjoyable.
Wow. I feel like I had the choice between cake, Chocodiles, or doughnuts when all I wanted was a substantial burger.

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Monday, May 4, 2009 1:49 PM

MSA


LOL I just know Sam well enough to know it's going to be genuinely scary as opposed to just limb hackingly gory. Soooo I have to watch it in daylight.

Well now your chicken casserole has been taken away and you're eating hot dogs... ( went grocery shopping and was forced by Peanut to buy hot dogs, french fries, pork n beans, and pie)

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Monday, May 4, 2009 3:27 PM

FREELANCERTEX


what r we talking about?


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Monday, May 4, 2009 4:40 PM

RHYIANAN


Well, I'm planning on seeing the Wolverine movie for one reason and one reason only: Gambit. I was extremely upset that Gambit wasn't in X3, but with him in this movie, I really want to see how they portray him. I won't have any of the issues that MSA had, since I hate comic books with a passion (but love the comic book movies, so it's just the reading material that I have issues with, not the content. I even refuse to read the serenity comics.)and I have no clue what is supposed to happen. X3 was a major disappointment, but since a matinee ticket in this town is only $2.50, I don't see a problem with finding out if they managed to do something better this time.


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Monday, May 4, 2009 5:07 PM

FREELANCERTEX


i was VERY upset that gambit was nowhere in the series, and very much more disappointed with the way X3 came out ><;; i'd see wolverine to see how they did gambit, but i dont wanna spend the money on a bad movie ><;; i'll wait till it comes out on cable or sumthin. (the matinee tickets where i am are like 7.50 @_@)


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Monday, May 4, 2009 5:39 PM

CELLARDOOR


I went to see Wolverine at the midnight showing with my brother and some of his friends, all of whom know more about X-Men than I do (I know a little prior movie trivia, but I didn't buy comics on a regular basis or watch the cartoons).

Gambit was their favorite going into the movie; I think that was one of the reasons at least one of them was in attendance too. They said Wolverine wasn't too far off the mark in some ways, that Gambit was better than some portrayals of the others, but a small letdown overall in comparison with the coolness that should have been (even though they still said he was cool), and

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at least Xavier was mostly like himself! In his all of 2 minutes of botoxed/CG'ed screen time... :P (seriously, what was wrong with his face?)



So... I guess if you're a die-hard fan you'd be a little let down, but they all agreed (as did I) that it was vastly better than X3 which was a travesty that never should have made it past the draft stage. They rated it an 8/10. I gave it an 8.5, subject to reevaluation.

Oh, and I'm counting down until Star Trek, but I'm not sure if I'll go see it Friday if the show time conflicts with the last Dollhouse episode this season.

Gah, all I want to do is browse fff.net with fellow Browncoats on this rainy spring night, but essays are demanding to be graded before tomorrow. The thread title, bubble baths and chocolate, sounds good too!

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Monday, May 4, 2009 6:03 PM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:

Originally posted by Rhyianan:
since I hate comic books with a passion (but love the comic book movies, so it's just the reading material that I have issues with, not the content. I even refuse to read the serenity comics.)


As I seem to recall, you know quite a bit about Death Note... Does that mean you didn't read that either?

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Tuesday, May 5, 2009 5:58 AM

ZEEK


Ah Tuesday...why can't you be more like Friday?

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Tuesday, May 5, 2009 6:42 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Dumdeedumdeedum...

I'm tryin' to work. Honestly.

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Tuesday, May 5, 2009 7:38 AM

MSA


um cellardoor

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it was teh cg plus the make up they put on in a desperate attempt to shave a good 20 years off Patrick...he commented he felt like his own evil clone after he saw the end result



I liked it, but I can happily enjoy a movie even when I know it sucks in comparison to the written material... I'm weird that way

ok a ponder
What is the most crucial social skill for a person to have??

I think it's the ability to see other people's points of view

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Tuesday, May 5, 2009 7:44 AM

NAVYSEILS


I think it's the ability to run and hide in the curtains when they're out of their depth.

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Tuesday, May 5, 2009 8:29 AM

RHYIANAN


Quote:

Originally posted by zerokiryu:
Quote:

Originally posted by Rhyianan:
since I hate comic books with a passion (but love the comic book movies, so it's just the reading material that I have issues with, not the content. I even refuse to read the serenity comics.)


As I seem to recall, you know quite a bit about Death Note... Does that mean you didn't read that either?



Nope, just watched several episodes of the anime (in Japanese, with subs)and discussed it with a few people. If there was an actual novel of it I might read it, same as Serenity or any of the other ones that sound interesting, but I just can't seem to handle reading material that focuses more on pictures than the words.

I even had a class in college that used a glorified comic book (otherwise known as a graphic novel)as one of the many textbooks we had to read. I could only make it halfway through, and got that far because I had to write a paper on it. Had a great debate in class over the effectiveness or lack thereof of the genre to show the realities of war.




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Tuesday, May 5, 2009 8:51 AM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:

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Nope, just watched several episodes of the anime (in Japanese, with subs)and discussed it with a few people. If there was an actual novel of it I might read it, same as Serenity or any of the other ones that sound interesting, but I just can't seem to handle reading material that focuses more on pictures than the words.

I even had a class in college that used a glorified comic book (otherwise known as a graphic novel)as one of the many textbooks we had to read. I could only make it halfway through, and got that far because I had to write a paper on it. Had a great debate in class over the effectiveness or lack thereof of the genre to show the realities of war.


Ah, well I feel sorry for you then, cause you're missing out on some good stuff.

I'll tell you the same thing I tell other people, graphic novels are just novels that show you what something is supposed to look like instead of telling you.

And regular novels tend to focus on pictures as well, but instead of showing it to you they want you to picture it mentally. I've read novels that go on for two or three pages just describing a building or something like that.

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Tuesday, May 5, 2009 9:05 AM

ZEEK


I never really got into comics as a kid. I've only read some now for Firefly, Buffy and Angel. I gotta say it's not my favorite genre. They seem sooooo short to me. Everytime I finish one I just go "that's it?". I expect them to be like an episode of TV and they're more like 1/4 of an episode at best.

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Tuesday, May 5, 2009 9:32 AM

RHYIANAN


Quote:

Originally posted by zerokiryu:
Quote:

Originally posted by Rhyianan:
Nope, just watched several episodes of the anime (in Japanese, with subs)and discussed it with a few people. If there was an actual novel of it I might read it, same as Serenity or any of the other ones that sound interesting, but I just can't seem to handle reading material that focuses more on pictures than the words.

I even had a class in college that used a glorified comic book (otherwise known as a graphic novel)as one of the many textbooks we had to read. I could only make it halfway through, and got that far because I had to write a paper on it. Had a great debate in class over the effectiveness or lack thereof of the genre to show the realities of war.



And regular novels tend to focus on pictures as well, but instead of showing it to you they want you to picture it mentally.



Regular novels do describe things so that you can picture them in your mind, but no two people ever picture it the same, even though the same words were used to evoke the image. Even the same person reading the book twice can see different things due to greater experience than the first time that they had read it. The pictures aren't set in stone, there is no right or wrong way to see what is happening. The focus is on the words and how the words thread the images through your mind instead of on the images themselves. It's a subtle difference, but still enough that it can be noticed, even if both genres make you see the image of a building.

It's like the difference between a television show and a radio show. Both have actors, both are written to entertain, but one focuses more on the visuals, while the other has to focus on sound effects and words to give the same idea. The effect is the same, in that you will understand what is going on, but there is still the subtle difference in the way that they do it, and some people respond to one way better than the other.

It's just personal preference, like enjoying scifi more than westerns (or vice versa).


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Tuesday, May 5, 2009 10:32 AM

MSA


See I like the graphic novels , but they aren't my preferred reading material too many pictures and too few words... I'm just not a visual person



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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 4:48 AM

ZEEK


Burglars suck. Another co-worker got robbed yesterday. This has been way too much of a growing trend around these parts. I've heard 4 break in stories so far this year from people at work. Before the economy took a nose dive I hadn't heard of any break ins here.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 5:39 AM

FREELANCERTEX


that sucks Zeek ><;; keep safe :\

ooookay, speaking of chocolate, i could kind of use some right now, or just candyish type stuff to stimulate the brain functions.


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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 5:47 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

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that sucks Zeek ><;; keep safe :\


It does kinda freak me out. Anytime I hear something at night I wake up. Having a cat there are plenty of night time sounds. Stupid robbers making me lose sleep.


Oh oh and MsA did you watch HIMYM? It was so confusing. I mean they were just yanking our chains with that ending, right? This is just another step along the way, right?

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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 5:55 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I'm not so sure our place is very safe. Aside from the half unlocked house and dogs that would either hide or run around until they got treats I'm not so sure what else will keep people out. Different story if we happen to be home...

ADD:
argh,
STELLLLAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

ADD P2:
It works. She's a C-bag and Ted's a douche.



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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 6:18 AM

ZEEK


The thing is they already did the little flashforward of what the kids would look like in that situation. So, it can't be her. Plus wouldn't the kids he's telling the story to know the name was the same as their mother's?

edit: I've decided they're just yanking our chain. Last week was about calling a girl the day you get her number and Ted said "and kids when I got your mother's number I called her the first day and blah blah". They would have known about the next episode by then and why would they put such a shady line in the script? He might have called her, but it would have been to see that really bad movie with all her friends that he thought was a date but clearly wasn't.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 8:58 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I hope it goes this way:

Ted stares longingly at Stella. They share a "Hi" and "Hey". Stepping closer Stella falls into Teds arms, he embraces her lovingly. As Stella looks into Teds eyes she mutters, "I missed you so much." Stella begins to tear up. Ted wipes them away before softly saying, "I missed you so much Stella..."

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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 9:03 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


"Psych!" Ted screams into Stellas face. She winces in disbelief at Teds callous remark.

I would add Ted spitting in her face or pushing her down to kick her in the tits but lets face it, Teds a bitch. Plus I'm sure the old people Naziz at CBS would keel over dead to see it even suggested in a script. Funny how the censor humor but murderers and sex criminals get featured all over shows with forensic investigators who can't stop flashing their breasts every two minutes.

I love How I Met Your Mother, but at CBS I feel most of what we do is see B.S.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 9:06 AM

ZEEK


I think I have to add some forensic investigator shows to my DVR. I had no idea.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 12:15 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


CSI: Miami is notorious for cleavage shots. It is just kinda annoying now.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 12:31 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
CSI: Miami is notorious for cleavage shots. It is just kinda annoying now.


Annoying? I would have accepted boring or uninteresting, but annoying is unacceptable. I went to a burlesque show in vegas once and by the end I was like *yawn* but I was never like "these topless women are making me upset!" I apply the same rule to cleavage. You can get bored with it but it's never crossing over into the realm of bad things.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 1:01 PM

MSA


I have decided to respond to the Stella situation by retreating into denial...there is no Stella.

I was waiting for the ME on CSI Miami to throw out her back with the unnatural arching and bending she does to try and flash her cleavage.... and it's fake.Might as well wave some saline filled balloons.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2009 1:06 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


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Cleavage, G-strings, Side Boob, and Camel Toes can never be bad things.
Until they appear on the ones we love.





I am kinda mixed honestly. I mean, cleavage. The word alone ranks up there with (a)beer and (b)money. The set ups are just stupid and uneccessary.

I must be retarded.

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 4:09 AM

MSA


You ever notice how the word booby is everywhere


Booby hatch
booby prize
he's acting like a boob

etc...

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 4:16 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
You ever notice how the word booby is everywhere


Well...not the word but I've noticed...

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:12 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Good morning Ponderers.

So, Ryan Reynolds and Sandra Bullock in a movie.

Not sure about this one.

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:15 AM

ZEEK


Did you hear they already green lit a standalone deadpool movie for him? Also Wolvie 2 greenlit.

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:27 AM

FREELANCERTEX


a deadpool movie?

WOLVERINE 2???? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE???

why cant they just admit theyre out of ideas?


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Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:14 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:
why cant they just admit theyre out of ideas?


The stupid part is that there are great ideas out there that they just aren't using. I mean for the x-men they could have some killer movies. I don't know why the heck they didn't do a sentinels movie. They can show humans being all mutantist. They can have crazy action scenes. It'll be expensive from a CGI standpoint but I bet it would make boat loads of money if they action is good enough.

How about Apocalypse? That movie could be awesome too. He's like the scariest X-villain IMO. He's crazy powerful, practically immortal and hell bent on annihilation. There should be plenty of action there too.

It's like they want to half ass the X-men. Just go all out already!

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:19 AM

FREELANCERTEX


i know that, but they refuse to make any of the good ideas sitting around waiting to be made @_@

apocalypse would ROCK. he was totally missing from the x-men series. i was very disappointed.


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Thursday, May 7, 2009 10:17 AM

MSA


They abandoned the idea of sentinels due to the expense in making the 1-2 real ones for practical effects and the cgi difficulties. It'd be awfully cool though
I'd love to see them do the mutant plague and Apocolypse story line...

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 10:51 AM

ZEEK


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Originally posted by MsA:
They abandoned the idea of sentinels due to the expense in making the 1-2 real ones for practical effects and the cgi difficulties. It'd be awfully cool though


That's the thing I think it would be so cool that it would easily recoup the money spent. If they did it right of course.

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 11:04 AM

MSA


That's what I think.. I'd love to see it and honestly for practical they'd need a hand, a head, and a foot. That couldn't possibly be that expensive.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 11:24 AM

TEXARCANA


Funny, and kinda ironical facts:
Wolverine (Logan) is a Canadian being played by Australian (Hugh Jackman).
Gambit (Remy LeBeau) is a Louisiana boy being played by a Canadian (Taylor Kitsch).
Speaking of Graphic novels with potential for Movie franchise fun:

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 11:28 AM

ZEEK


Never heard of Marshal Law comic before. Though it makes me wonder if they've used the pun on HIMYM yet with Marshal being a lawyer and all. They probably have and I just don't remember it off hand.

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