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Originally posted by ScottishBrownCoat:
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Are their any Other Trekkers or former Trekkers who feel the same?
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Firefly won't die. Because it can't. Like Mal, Firely isn't just going to simply lie down and die when the times get tough. No, it lives on, survives on because what else can it do. Except simply die which it will not.

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Originally posted by DeannaMay:
I want my people to fight against their own baser instincts, and win out. I want them to be underdogs in a less than perfect world. After seeing things like Farscape and Firefly, where there is actual character development and reasons for plot issues, I am spoiled rotten. I want substance. I am not stupid, despite the fact that I watch television. It's kind of funny, two of my favorite shows period, both cancelled before their time are making a come-back. Farscape this fall, and Firefly next Spring. Good science fiction isn't dead yet.

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Originally posted by ScottishBrownCoat:
Hello,
I grew up a Trekker, I met my wife at a Star Trek Convention, so you can say that I owe that show.
The Original series and Movies, then Next Generation and Deep Space Nine, all wonderful programming, and during the middle of the Next Generation series Trek seemed to be at it's height.
However after the end of The Next Generation, and with the average quality next gen movies and the next two Average generic spinoffs (Voyager and Enterprise) I have seen that the Trek world has gone into a downward spiral, and it does not seem to be getting any better. Trek Conventions once EVERYWHERE are truly on a slow but steady decline.

Now I was introduced to Firefly, I see in it, a show with the same magical qualities of the original series of Trek, except with better writing, special effects, and a iron tight Cast of Characters played by the absolute best Actors they could have found.Not that Trek did not have good actors, but you don't see Nathan Fillion ever going.....Over.....the.....top!!!

When Original Star Trek was cancelled they took 10 years to put a movie out, which reinvented the franchise, but by that time it already had a very strong fan base.

We see Firefly today with a strong fan base, and a movie coming out less than 3 years after the show was cancelled, we are on the brink of a real opprotunity here. The same attention the Trekkers have been given in the world of fandom and out of Fandom is the same attention that I see Browncoats getting if we keep our good work going.

I have also noticed some very different attitudes concerning how the Firefly Creator and Crew view US as opposed to how Berman and the stars of Trek view TREKKERS(with the exception of a few great stars from the original series and TNG.)
It just seems that the Firefly family is based more on the love of the Show, AND people, also Firefly brings back the important message of Multi-culturalism, which Trek lost on it's path to commercialism.

What Firefly also brought to the Browncoats was the concept of Religious tolerance and diversity, Shepherd of Buddhist Monk, it is ALL relevant if one wants it to be.
Religon being a topic they did not want to really touch in Trek, well, Whedon smartly adds religion into the Firefly 'verse because he understands Human Nature, and how it truly changes very little.

I think we as Browncoats are just getting started, I see great things for the 'verse of Firefly, but we must work very hard to ensure that a second and third movie can come back, and to convert the masses to this great Family.
So that oneday the Oxford dictionary will have a definition for Browncoat.


Maybe it is just that I was feelin' a might truthsome, but I just can't help but notice this.

Are their any Other Trekkers or former Trekkers who feel the same?

Proudly,
Scottish BrownCoat


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Bwahh!!!!!

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That should be our slogan,

"Browncoats, come feel the love."

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Originally posted by cct:
My dad was a good man, but ex-construction, ex-military, and he had a very definite view of the world.

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the ideals and concepts were very much in contrast to what was being presented to me in my little world, and I decided to shut my mouth, keep my eyes and ears open, and reserve judgment until I had a bit more data on the true nature of things. So many of my friends couldn't make that leap... from "it's different, let's smash it!" to "it's different- let's look it over and figure it out, and not do any damage along the way".

I was SO lucky to have Trek.

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We were being promised a lot back then- the US was kicking ass and when we grew up there were going to be space stations, and moon bases, and all sorts stuff that didn't happen.

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And flying cars. I always wanted a flying car.

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