Has watching [i][b]firefly[/b][/i] affected how you talk? by Mantichorus

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Has watching [i][b]firefly[/b][/i] affected how you talk?

POSTED BY: MANTICHORUS
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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:53 AM

I've noticed since watching firefly that firefly-isms keep popping into my head.
Am I the only one afflicted in this manner?

N.B- Now, the title didn't come out right, did it?
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"BADGER: You think you're better than other people.
MAL: Just the ones I'm better than."
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"MAL: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous.
SIMON: Yes, I'm very proud."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 1:01 AM

RELFEXIVE

I have noticed a certain cadence to my speakin' of late.

Mal: "We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so... very... pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 1:08 AM

BLINKER

Nah, not so much.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 1:43 AM

SCOTTISHBROWNCOAT

For the most part No, however I do use Shiny on a semi-regular basis.

Being a Hoosier, and an Evansville native I can say that Ron Glass speaks a very refined english, which I don't hear much outside my British Family in this area(Evansville is on the Ohio River 5 minutes across from Henderson, Kentucky so people in this area can tend to sound very southern.)
It would be funny to have heard him with his regular "Evansville twang" as my grandma calls it, that is if he ever had one to begin with.

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Bwahh!!!!!

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 2:41 AM

SAINT JAYNE

Whenever I can slip in a Firefly-ism, I do. Among my favourites are:Does that seem right to you?
Gorramit
ShinyI also adapted "wife-that-was" to refer to the X.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 2:50 AM

MILORADELL

"Aint" seems to be the word of choice here in the office! And I started it - ME! The perfect diction person. Ha!!!

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I used to be
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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 3:39 AM

HOAGIE

I have been using "Shiny" a lot lately and use one or two of the chinese curses at work when i'm upset and can't curse normally.

I find i use Spike-isms more than Firefly. My boss mentioned something and waited for the rest of us to react. no one did so he repeated himself, like maybe we didn't hear. i looked up from my work and said "I'm sorry. i'm paralyzed from not caring very much" and went back to work. Stuff like that. Joss has definately influenced my language.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 4:24 AM

GRACEOM

Last time I deliberately used a Fireflyish construction--I've forgotten exactly what I said, but I think it involved "ain't"--my grammar was soundly corrected by my dyslexic 11-year old

I've sort of given up since then, though I do slip "shiny" in from time to time

Grace

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 4:30 AM

DRACOS

Has it affected me? Gorramit! 'Course it has!

Yeah, I use pretty much all of it, Shiny, Gorram, Ruttin', a lot of the Chinese, "The situation is 'fluid'," "This is not my best day ever," "Noah's Ark is a problem," just about anything else thats appropriate for the situation. Hell, I've even been known to sing the theme when somebody is really boring me, but in that really twangy, mocking tone that Nathan uses in the Serenity commentary.

Then again I use a lot of British slang and terminology from the Dark Tower series.

-Dracos

Dont ask me silly questions.
I wont play silly games.
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Somebody tries to kill you you go ahead and try to kill them right on back!

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 4:51 AM

MANTICHORUS

Well now, Dracos, if you've read Dark Tower, how 'bout contributing to my 'Buffy vs The Walkin' Dude' thread: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=9&t=5378
{End Shameless Plug}

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"BADGER: You think you're better than other people.
MAL: Just the ones I'm better than."
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"MAL: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous.
SIMON: Yes, I'm very proud."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 5:21 AM

STILLSHINY

Oh, I would most certainly say so. I say things all manner of differently now. I sound much less educated than I actually am. And the funny thing is, it don't really bother me much. I love this show. It has affected the way I look at the daily grind of life.

A Captains goal was simple, find a crew, find a job, keep flying.

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 5:34 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

It may have affected my speech a might.

I use the following pretty regularly:

"That seem right to you?"

"Gorram"

"Shiny"

"Ruttin'"

"Put that in Captain Dummy Speak"

"Were there monkey? Some terrifying space monkeys?"

"I'd take that as a kindness"

I use others more sporadically when appropriate.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 5:50 AM

PHNIX25

I recently sent out invitations to a party entitled
"The Shiny Summer Shindig" without thinking about it. I'm giving stars to anyone who shows up and gets the reference.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 6:13 AM

JOHNCLARK

To some extent certainly. There are certain Firefly phrases that I use a fair bit

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 6:34 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave

Quote:
Originally posted by Mantichorus:
N.B- Now, the title didn't come out right, did it?

don't cha just hate when that happens?

Yes, muchly. "Notion" "Not so Much" and "Shiny" are the most prevalent.

We have art so as not to die of truth ~ Neitzsche
http://www.mnartists.org/artistHome.do?rid=7922

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 6:42 AM

ORCBLASTER

I've been using Chinese curses a lot, even to my teachers at school, wich is fun 'cause they most of the time don't have a clue of what I'm saying.
But other than that I don't think it has affected me very much.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 7:13 AM

PINGJING

Just yesterday, I was talking to my sister on the phone and she said something, I can't remember what, but she tripped over her words and started laughing at herself. I had to respond, "Well, it had a kind of poetry to it."

I've picked up on gorramit, I'm still working on shiny, but I can't manage to say ain't. Don't know why, just can't do it.

Julia

Jayne: "Well, I say as a rule that girlfolk ain't to be trusted."
River: "Jayne is a girl's name."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 7:42 AM

CYBERSNARK

I quote Firefly all the time. 'course, I quote other shows all the time too. And comics. And games.

I've been known to talk a little Junkion from time-to-time.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 7:46 AM

VELOXI

Yes, it has, in little ways. I find myself saying things like, "it would not go amiss" and what not. A very influential show.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 8:51 AM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1

Quote:
Originally posted by Saint Jayne:

I also adapted "wife-that-was" to refer to the X.

that sounds like you killed her. are you leaving some of the story out?

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 9:11 AM

TEELABROWN

"Gorram"

"Ain't"

I drop the g on the suffix -ing, makin' it -in.

"'Verse"

I only swear in Chinese, unless I think the situation deserves English.

Reminds me of when I read "The Grapes of Wrath". I started picking up on the dialect, so I had to speak very slowley when I presented my project so I wouldn't use it. I wanted to say "Roseasharn" instead of "Rose of Sharon". Rather annoying. But fun.

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Teela Brown, keeper of bad typing.
"No one reads these things any way."- Bart on Blackboard

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 9:15 AM

JESS

I seem to be saying 'Shiny!' a lot. And I caught a 'not so much' the other day

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 9:46 AM

TERRIBLETINK

I use firefly-speak all the time. I swore I wouldn't but it just creeps in...

Mostly "shiny" and "not so much," but other lines pop up all the time. I find myself telling my son not to be all "bendy" if he's pushing back on doing chores (OK, once I did threaten to bring out the chain of command, but since he's addicted to the show too, he knew what I meant and just laughed and did the dishes without further complaint -- no need to call the authorities here

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 9:50 AM

TOMTBA2004

i tend to use gorram quit a bit shiny is also a shiny word to use,wei,go-se,wu-don, i am still learning.theres nothing wrong with it.fireflyisms means you happy.and aare obsessed. which is a good thing.

"lets go to work"

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 10:24 AM

GETUPKID

actually yes, go figure, i picked up cantonese, a form of the chinese tounge, as a 4th language, next 2 spanish, japanese, and english. haha, wo guize

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 11:01 AM

GUNHAND

I always spoke somewhat strangified when compared to most other people, I blame my rural locale for that, well that and my grandma. She always used odd turns of phrase and Firefly uses the same ones, so it's like listening to my grandma talking from time to time.

Although I do use the really odd ones more since watching Firefly, not sure why that is. Either just because they stuck or maybe because they remind me of her and brought that way of speaking back up to the top of my brainpan some. Who knows, but it's all fine.

The Chinese I definately use on a daily basis, same with shiny, the gorrams...not so much. If I let fly in a situation where gorram would be used it's usually the Read Deal because I'm somewhat of a vulgarian.

And you really don't want to hear me talking on a Monday morning after watching Deadwood...

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"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 11:15 AM

SERENITYVALLEY

Has FF changed the way I talk? I'm learning CHINESE for pete's sake!

Other than that, I say "not so much" more than anything else, usually without noticing. I don't use shiny as much as I'd like to. I do tend to use lines, but people sometimes just stare blankly and I realized suddenly that I just quoted FF. Joss and the whole writing gang are just so witty, it'd be hard not to lift quotes.

http://www.simple-assault.com/Firefly.htm

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 11:34 AM

GREGGALLINSON

I've always kind of had an odd way of talking, and after dating a girl from Atlanta, I found Southernisms popping into my speech, but yeah..."creepifying" is my favourite.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 11:50 AM

FIREFLEW

Yeah, I find myself saying, "kinda", "and such", "-some" and stuff. No particular phrases - barring Shiny - are in heavy rotation though.

Jayne: "Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I beat you with till you understand who's in command."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:00 PM

CALHOUN

Quote:
Mantichorus wrote:
Wednesday, June 09, 2004 00:53
I've noticed since watching firefly that firefly-isms keep popping into my head.
Am I the only one afflicted in this manner?

Not so much..

I am 86% Jayne in the "Firefly personality test" so it was appropriate that I got to use one of Jaynes lines a few months back. I was sitting in the airport, the plane having been delayed like 6 hrs. There was this young guy sitting across from me and he was STARING at me. I tried staring back at him but it started getting uncomfortable after a few minutes.. Then THE line popped into my head. "Shake your head kid! Your eyes is stuck!"

It worked a treat.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:11 PM

NUISANCE

I use gorram and shiny. Other than those, I tend to work in phrases where they'll be most appropriate. I've used the chain of command thing, special hell, and occasionally curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal. I like the rare moments when I get to use this must be what going mad feels like.

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

If the cops ever find me with some kind of contraband: "It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:36 PM

KARENKAY99

Quote:
Originally posted by Gunhand:
And you really don't want to hear me talking on a Monday morning after watching Deadwood...

lol
tell me about it. i never used the c-word in my whole life. but i think it sometimes now. :-)

i must say shiny a lot now. someone at work ask me if that's the new buzz word. i didn't have time to explain so i just said it was my new buzz word. it would be funny if she starts using it never really knowing why.

i actually think of fireflygasms all the time but i try to pick my audience. strange stares can be embarrassing.

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 1:08 PM

ANNIK

Creepifying and corpsified are the two I am most in love with, although I haven't gotten the opportunity to use the second one ... much.

I've 'tried on' (as Dr. Evil would say) some of the Chinese swears, but since half my class is some flavour of Chinese, this has garnered some snickers, although they say my pronunciation is fine. I'm not entirely comfortable swearing in front of my class ... there's a certain point where admin might decide to have a little chat about it.

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 2:36 PM

DARKJESTER

Not so much, except for "Not so much", and "Does that seem right to you?" Ditto?

MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

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Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:38 PM

STARPILOTGRAINGER

I wish. Aside from the occasional use of 'Shiny' online, I haven't been able to work up any changes into my speech. I'd like to talk like Captain Mal, pepper my speech with Gorram or chinese swear words, or just add that certain twang to the way I speak.

It's just that it never comes out that way. When I speak, none of it comes to mind. It's like I don't actually control what I say, I just send off a memo of the general gist to some other department of my brain and it composes something for my mouth.

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Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:20 PM

DYAIRVATREE

I find myself using "and the like" and "not so much" quite a bit now and it's not really volentary it just comes out. I could force myself to stop if I really wanted to, but do I really want to? Not so much.

And the other day I went camping with a friend of mine and was banging tent pegs into some really hard soil with a hammer and banged my thumb. And said Gorerammit! He watches Firefly too and laughed and changed the subject to Firefly he figured I said it on purpose the thing is I didn't.

Yes Firefly can be dangerous to ones vocabulary and the like if your not carefull.

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Friday, June 11, 2004 1:19 PM

KIARA

Absolutely. I'm still working on making it without-thinking, but it's coming. Surprisingly, I don't use 'shiny'. I don't mean to - I really want[/] to, but I just haven't. I'll have to get working on that.

Stillshiny wrote:
I sound much less educated than I actually am. And the funny thing is, it don't really bother me much. I love this show. It has affected the way I look at the daily grind of life.

Absolutely. I now see that every day I make it is one more day the Alliance hasn't won.

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Friday, June 11, 2004 4:36 PM

JUSTYTYLOR23

Firefly? No, but Joss Whedon shows in general? Oh yes.

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Friday, June 11, 2004 6:40 PM

PHOENIXRISE83

O boy, now that you mention it, I do say "Shiny", "Ruttin", "Dong Ma", "I'd take that as a kindness" occasionally. I probly would say "Gorramit" but Im not entirely sure what it means, i mean obviously it means goddammit, but call me crazy I feel I need more info on that one. All in all Firefly has affected my speech, I believe a show like this and with any great show that one becomes addicted to, has a way of leaving a mark on your personality in some form!

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Friday, June 11, 2004 9:38 PM

JUSTASHEPHERD

Most definitely. Gorram and gorrammit mostly, to the point where even non-fans (or "the soon-to-be converted" as I like to call them) don't even notice anymore. Shiny pops up a bit. And depending on how long it's been since I watched some episodes, my grammar starts to decline a bit. I do say "ain't" a lot more when I've been watchin' the show.

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Saturday, June 12, 2004 9:28 AM

CYBERSNARK

I tend to use gorramit more than gorram (it's just a context thing; most of my cursing is non-focussed). I did once call someone a rabbit (check the forum archives if you don't get it

).

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Saturday, June 12, 2004 3:52 PM

THEGREYJEDI

Oh it's worked it's way into my mannerisms like some strange parasite. Not that I mind.

goram, "all manner of", 'what' in place of 'that', corpsified, creepifying, "it would be a kindness", even learning to swear in chinese a little

Probably speaking more than that, but that's all what I can think of at the moment.

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