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Imponderables: It's Millah Time!

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:48 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


So very few notable days have fallen since I have started posting here. Most are more notorious than notable. Happy ones like the birth of nieces and nephews and of course getting married are the only good ones I can think of.

Not sure where to file this day.

I've been terminated. Near to a decade of service was ended due to my insubordination towards a micromanaging control freak two tiers above me on the chain of command. Of course I have reasons, not excuses for my lack of cooperation with certain directives. And my parting was very civil. No tears, a ton of smiles, and I didn't tell her to eat a dick. I may or may not be filing a grievance. But that is tomorrow.

Tonight is time for beers!

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 3:24 PM

DANCINGNEKO



[ /lurk ]
firsties? yep firsties.

*blinks*
Ummm...
1. congratulations on your freedom (sucky timing as it might be in the job market). Getting away from crazies and insanities is always a good thing in my book.

2. WTF?! I thought they needed to give 2 weeks notice at least for this kind of shyte. ('course I should be one to talk...gave 'em less than a day to find out that I wasn't coming back.)

3. Wishing you luck and energy in finding a job.

*nekohuggle for those that want*

[ lurk ]

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 3:26 PM

TRAVELER


I have been out of work since the end of October, and there is not much out that requires my skills. I suspect I better start learning the phrase, "Do you want fries with that". Of course that may not be so easy to get, either.


http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:05 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Thanks 'Neko

I can do pretty much anything. No mind digging ditches, cutting weeds, or sweeping streets.

Wait, machines do all that. Shit...

I have all manner of skills, some less marketable than others, and a few very marketable but not worth the risk. Apparently I am recommended for rehire to with the tribe, but only after a year and only if I am crazy enough to consider another job with them. I am way too pleasant and controlled to have told the bosses boss to eat a dick.

Yeah, I was "terminated" in the absence of my actual supervisor.

Beer run!

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:02 AM

SOLARFLARE


Best of luck finding work NVG. You too, Traveler.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:30 AM

MSA


Also he was terminated for something he was never written up for before, without notice or warning, and basically because his boss's boss was in snit because her weekend was interrupted and not just his due to an emergency. She has disliked him for years, she just finally got her chance, using the smallest sliver of a made up excuse ( claims she told him not to do something and he did it, but I was there for their phone conversations and she never told him not to do that) to get rid of the one person who will stand up to her when she's wrong....( she isn't a fan of being wrong)

Buy Yay now he can stay home for a few days with me on summer break :)


To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:46 AM

ZEEK


Ouch and I was upset cause I'm feeling sick. Sounds like NVG definitely wins the shitty day award. What is it with crappy people in leadership positions? How do they even get there in the first place is what I want to know?

My manager is supposed to be trying to clear off some of my workload so we can prepare for a big transition for next year. Currently that process is going in reverse. She wants to get rid of another person and give me like a 3rd of their work. Yesterday I got another pile of work dumped on me. This isn't even a hard concept to figure out. More work does not equal less work.

We were supposed to have a meeting today and I called her (since I'm not going into work all sick) and she didn't answer and hasn't returned my call even with a voice message. 15 minutes and waiting. Argh

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:05 AM

MSA


HUGS Zeek.. I'm not sure I think people like that get promoted because they haven't done anything they can be terminated for and each manager doesn't want them so they get kicked up the line so it can be " someone else's problem"
Sorry you're sick sweety... is it flu or something worse?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:26 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
HUGS Zeek.. I'm not sure I think people like that get promoted because they haven't done anything they can be terminated for and each manager doesn't want them so they get kicked up the line so it can be " someone else's problem"
Sorry you're sick sweety... is it flu or something worse?


Not sure. Achy head, sore throat, very minor cough. Other than that I'm functional.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:54 AM

LEOPARDFLAN


Ouch.. seems like it's a sucky day for everyone :[

-hugs to all that want-

I always thought people like that got promoted because a) they work hard to be promoted so they can make other people's lives hell, and b) they suck up to their higher ups so they can get promoted..

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:16 PM

GRIPPER


I am sorry for your situation.It seems that many "managerial types" at different levels in the food chain are taking advantage of the economy to settle personal (as opposed to personnel) issues.
I went from 60 +hours a week to 16-24+patial unemployment in January.OTOH;I have a couple of very solid opportnities( one of which I interview for tomorrow!).
If you do not mind my asking;what do you ordinarily do for your daily bread?(Myself-security/protective service occupations).

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:54 PM

MSA


I am a consulting teacher ( I train and teach other teachers to deal with behavior challenges etc) but I'm only doing that for one more year then I want back in the classroom ( sick of teaching adults as it's no where near as satisfying as teaching the kids)

NV is the manager of a site that takes in kids with drug and alcohol issues and have been removed from their homes by the court and helps in their rehab.




To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:16 PM

GRIPPER


Thats honorable work....employment wise ;I seem to get "Jayne-type"jobs more often than not.Not complaining;but it IS kind of funny to see me trying to teach ANYTHING without resorting to "Because to NOT do that would annoy me"(well, I am not THAT bad;but you get the idea).
I am pretty certain you will both pick up something soon enough-this board does NOT seem to attract skill-less/clueless types.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:32 PM

MSA


Oh I have a job... NV's the one who had his yanked away. I work for a local school district. I'm just off track right now, but in a few weeks I'll be back to setting up classrooms, teaching how to discipline and control special ed students with behavior problems and doing behavior intervention plans and training for individual kids.... sigh


Hey Jayne jobs are needed... someone's gotta make sure people stay in line:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:45 PM

SCHISM


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
So very few notable days have fallen since I have started posting here. Most are more notorious than notable. Happy ones like the birth of nieces and nephews and of course getting married are the only good ones I can think of.

Not sure where to file this day.

I've been terminated. Near to a decade of service was ended due to my insubordination towards a micromanaging control freak two tiers above me on the chain of command. Of course I have reasons, not excuses for my lack of cooperation with certain directives. And my parting was very civil. No tears, a ton of smiles, and I didn't tell her to eat a dick. I may or may not be filing a grievance. But that is tomorrow.

Tonight is time for beers!




That happened recently where I worked - micromanagers taking advantage of the recession in order to cut the costs from one end cos they were unable to cut them from the other. Luckily I was NOT one of those who got let go, but I lost some good friends and co-workers in that mess.

I was laid off in the past, at a job when my wife was 8 months pregnant. The only up-side was that I hated the job so much that every day on the drive in I sought desperately for some master plan that did not necessitate my going to work. When I was laid off I should have been worried, but instead I was so relieved that I didn't have to go there anymore. The panic came a few days later.
;p

Focus on the bad shit that you no longer have to go back to. That's the only way to not totally fall apart in a situation like this.

And with your open minded attitude towards employment, I'm sure you'll find something soon.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:49 PM

MSA


Well I'm glad you're still ok Schism:)

LOL kind of ironic.. I'm NV's wife and I'm 5 months pregnant. He's been hating his job a lot recently... hmm ok maybe that's like a warning... guys if you have a pregnant wife and hate your job you might be about to be laid off.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:03 PM

GRIPPER


Congratulations on the new member of the family!
Might I suggest a canine companion for the incomming child?-dru.org(great folks to be found there;pld friends)

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:29 PM

FREELANCERTEX


hey, more imponderables.

sorry NV ><;;

*teleports out*


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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:00 PM

MSA


OH we already have 2 rescued dogs.. but nice suggestion:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:22 PM

TRAINBANDIT


Quote:

Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
Ouch.. seems like it's a sucky day for everyone :[

-hugs to all that want-

I always thought people like that got promoted because a) they work hard to be promoted so they can make other people's lives hell, and b) they suck up to their higher ups so they can get promoted..



I agree, and also, jerks who want to micro-manage and control and stifle any sign of iniative are usually the ones who WANT to be in control or other people, just so they can do all that to them with impunity. I hate them too, always have,can't believe they can go day to day living inside their own heads. Not that I'm bitter or anything.

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:43 AM

DANCINGNEKO


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
Also he was terminated for something he was never written up for before, without notice or warning, and basically because his boss's boss was in snit because her weekend was interrupted and not just his due to an emergency. She has disliked him for years, she just finally got her chance, using the smallest sliver of a made up excuse ( claims she told him not to do something and he did it, but I was there for their phone conversations and she never told him not to do that) to get rid of the one person who will stand up to her when she's wrong....( she isn't a fan of being wrong)



Y'know, IIRC, that sounds like a termination without cause, and (if NVG chose to play the "bastard" card) could get the whole program into a hella lot of hot water -- at least for the management level types.

(File a grievance....put the micormanaging ninny in some boiling hot water for the b.s.)[Oops! Did I say that out loud? ]

Hope you guys put in for the U/I soon.

Traveler: Me too...I just went for a test for a job, and they said that the interviews might start later this month and start date is in September. Ta ma de. Sadly, though, when I tried to apply for one of those types of jobs late last year, I got a rejection letter. Guess I'm too edjumakayted or som'thin'.

*waves to the new folk here*

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:57 AM

GRIPPER


Don't feel bad...it is the Dilbert Principle at work-"Managers are prmoted to their own level of Incompetence".
As an aside;I have een run off of jobsites for the following:
1)Having the account manager call me on the company cell phone,and having someone from the client overhear me answere his query regarding directions to a gun shop.
2)Having a decent working relationship with the cleaning and construction contractors(they were Salvadoran neighbors of mine),and the person listening could not understand the Spanglish we were conversing in...this was interesting because the same complainant ALSO(see below)
3)Disapproved of my belief that a country that does NOT control its own borders eventually loses its sovereingty-usually after it goes broke,both frm lost jobs to funding a support system.Person ALSO disliked hearing me chuckle at a joke my Mexican second cousins emailed me( and passing it on to my neighbors/fellow contractors).What can I say?I am hard to categorize(they could not decide if I was intolerant or EXCESSIVELY tolerant-so much for diversity of thought!).
Above account level,area/district managers are terrified of ANY client complaint-wheter or not the complaint has validity.Combine that with a sketchy economy and all manner of backstabbery flows freely.

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:11 PM

MSA


Office Space should be mandatory viewing for all manager trainees


Oh and in case you hadn't heard.... Peanut's a boy!!

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:26 PM

GRIPPER


I LOVED thatmovie...especially the guy who had been fired for three years...and no one told him!("Why have I not been paid?")...and the Indian guy was freaking HILARIOUS!! I forgot how much I enjoyed that flick-thanks for the reminder!

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Friday, June 19, 2009 5:28 AM

MSA


I have my own personal red swingline stapler and my students are NOT allowed to touch it:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Friday, June 19, 2009 6:47 AM

SOLARFLARE


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
Office Space should be mandatory viewing for all manager trainees





It should also be mandatory for anyone who sits in a cubicle...

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Friday, June 19, 2009 6:59 AM

MSA


I still love the scene where they kill the fax machine.. who among us hasn't wanted to beat down some office machinery

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Friday, June 19, 2009 10:30 AM

FREELANCERTEX


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA: Office Space should be mandatory viewing for all manager trainees


Oh and in case you hadn't heard.... Peanut's a boy!!


LOLZ, totally, and i also agree with solar's statement.

YAY!!!!! what was your boy name again? *remembers conversation from way back*



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Friday, June 19, 2009 12:02 PM

ZEEK


Of course they're going to name him Zeek. I mean come on.

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Friday, June 19, 2009 12:29 PM

MSA


Hey you still rank ahead of Navy's suggestion ( Batman)

We're still trying to decide on a name... we'll keep you posted.

HUGS

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:30 AM

FREELANCERTEX


Batman? navy, how could you be so cruel? :P

good luck with the name searching MsA ^_^


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Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:48 AM

NAVYSEILS


I'm telling you, a little boy would love to be able to say "I'm Batman" and have official documents to back that up.

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Saturday, June 20, 2009 9:03 AM

FREELANCERTEX


it's just mean. it's like naming your kid Dweezel or Apple. you just dont do it :P


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Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:51 AM

WAKEUPSOON


Quote:

Originally posted by Navyseils:
I'm telling you, a little boy would love to be able to say "I'm Batman" and have official documents to back that up.

I agree with this theory, but in reality that kid would get picked on ... could go for Bruce tho, with a middle name of Wayne, obviously :)

~WuS
This is not my signature, I have to write this every time I post.
Smile && Nod, it makes it seem like you know what's going on.

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Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:01 PM

MSA


Well I'm sorry to dash you rwild hopes Navy... but we're naming him
(drumroll please)
John Howard Hooper A.( well ok we will put the whole last name on the birth certificate:)

John is for NV's brother and my grandfather, Howard is my dad ( whom I adore) and Hooper is NV's dad's family:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:03 PM

WAKEUPSOON


John Howard Hooper A!

Its adorable!! Will he be known as John or Johnny tho?? These things are important to know!!

~WuS
This is not my signature, I have to write this every time I post.
Smile && Nod, it makes it seem like you know what's going on.

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Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:25 PM

GRIPPER


Good name...and a good thing I have no naming responsibilities...I could see christening someone "Alex Drudee" just to see if any got the "Clockwork Orange"reference....be especially fun to see him off to pick up the milk.

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Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:10 PM

MSA


Actually right now we're calling him Baby John

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:04 AM

MSA


NVG here: Good Sunday morning Ponderers!

Up early as per usual. Funny, I was rarely this excited to be up at this hour when I was working. Kinda F'ed u really.

Don't feel bad Navy. I pushed for Batman until we were watching Dog The Bounty Hunter the other night. An older Mexican gentleman had a son named Zorro.

I tried but was shot down of course.




To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:57 AM

SCHISM


I second (or third, of fourth) the name Batman, personally.

How cool that you and NVG are married.
The couple that geeks together stays together, eh?
:p

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Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:12 AM

DEEPGIRL187


*wanders quietly out of lurkdom*

Ola, peoples. Can't actually remember the last time I posted on this thread. How is everyone?

Sorry about the job NVG, but many congrats about the baby (I really need to check in more often).

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Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:18 AM

MSA


HUGS Deepgirl.. it's good to see you any time:)

Actually schism we met on FFF.net:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:54 AM

FREELANCERTEX


thats a long name, but a good one ^_^ yay!!


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Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:04 AM

RHYIANAN


Quote:

Originally posted by gripper:
Good name...and a good thing I have no naming responsibilities...I could see christening someone "Alex Drudee" just to see if any got the "Clockwork Orange"reference....be especially fun to see him off to pick up the milk.



Lol, that is awful. Then again my husband and I have been joking that if we ever have a son we could name him Edward Henry Hyde. Somehow I think less people would pick up on the Edward Hyde then Alex Drudee, but both would have a literature teacher chuckling.


I'm a leaf on the wind

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Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:11 AM

MSA


All I can say is if you're going to name a child after a literary figure... please read the book first and spell it right. ARGH I had a student who's parents named him after a character in the 3 Musketerrs... but they spelled it DARTANYON.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:47 PM

FREELANCERTEX


...........isn't it like "Dartagnan" or sumthin? i love people who spell phonetically, cuz like ninety-five percent of the time theyre wrong ><;; as an english major, that irks me.


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Sunday, June 21, 2009 3:11 PM

NICODEMUS


D'Artagnan

Although of course using that would mean using a surname as a first name, but hey, whatever works.

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Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:03 PM

FREELANCERTEX


yes. that.

ive seen ppl use surnames as first names before. it happens :-P sometimes its okay though. i think its better than having two or three first names for a name.


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Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:30 PM

MSA


HUGS Nico... So have you started packing yet???



To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:35 PM

MSA


Quote:

Originally posted by deepgirl187:
*wanders quietly out of lurkdom*

Ola, peoples. Can't actually remember the last time I posted on this thread. How is everyone?

Sorry about the job NVG, but many congrats about the baby (I really need to check in more often).

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]

NVG Here:

Yes, you must check in more often. We all get to missin' folk who've been here for a while.

I figure that I pretty much have four first names so my eldest can endure with four as well.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Joss was right... Mandarin is the language of the future...
Wed, November 27, 2024 09:32 - 35 posts
Where are the Extraterrestrial Civilizations
Tue, November 26, 2024 06:25 - 55 posts
Is Joss Whedon finished as a film maker, is his future destiny to be some muttering version of Brigitte Bardot, Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, Charlie Sheen, Danny Glover?
Sun, November 24, 2024 06:15 - 13 posts
Bad writers go on strike, late night talk is doomed
Fri, November 22, 2024 13:49 - 22 posts
Here's how it was.....Do you remember & even mourn the humble beginnings?
Mon, November 18, 2024 09:38 - 13 posts
Serenity Rescued by Disney!
Fri, November 15, 2024 00:31 - 5 posts
What is your favourite historical or war film/television show???
Fri, November 8, 2024 07:18 - 37 posts
When did you join poll?
Tue, November 5, 2024 04:28 - 69 posts
Best movie that only a few people know about
Mon, November 4, 2024 07:14 - 118 posts
Halloween
Sun, November 3, 2024 15:21 - 43 posts
Teri Garr, the offbeat comic actor of 'Young Frankenstein' has died
Thu, October 31, 2024 20:20 - 5 posts
Poetry in song
Sat, October 26, 2024 20:16 - 19 posts

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