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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

AS I've said before, 3 voices, 2 guitars, and a bass were enough to make music that could move millions. Proves that you don't need a 90 piece orchestra, or 20 megawatts of electric amps, or pyrotechnics, or fancy dance moves , or music videos to make good art, if you have enough skill and talent.

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Originally posted by hughff:
A special mention for Edge of Darkness: IMO this is the single greatest televsion mini-series ever. [snip] It's never been released on dvd in the US to my knowledge though it was released in Region 2 (UK).

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Originally posted by Niki2:

Guess we must be about the same age;

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
And yes, you can do good stuff with an orchestra or choir, and even with electric guitars, but too many groups use that stuff to cover a lack of real talent and skill. Pyrotechnics are not part of MUSIC, though, and dance is not an integral part of it. Any time the performance becomes more about those things than voice or instrument, MUSIC loses out.

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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
A true artist, a genuine bonafide star, would not need pyrotechnics to engage an audience. Carlos Santana, Jimi Hendrix, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, Earth, Wind and Fire. Barry White.

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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:

A true artist, a genuine bonafide star, would not need pyrotechnics to engage an audience. Carlos Santana, Jimi Hendrix, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, Earth, Wind and Fire. Barry White. They, along with countless others I'm forgetting, made their own.

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Originally posted by hughff:


With all due respect: Bullshit, bullshit, fucking bullshit. I will not let you slander dance. My wife is a dancer; so is one of our BDHs. Go tell them that. When someone said to Tchiakovsky that he should rush a piece because it was "only dance music" he went ballistic. There was, in his humble opinion, no more important form of musical expression.

To dismiss dance or, for that matter, any part of the stage experience, is to diminish the whole artistic endeavour. When I go to see a show, I go to see it as well as hear it; That's why we call it "seeing" a show. You may as well tell a film producer to forget about sound - we only want to watch movies.

All of the artisits nominated above were not above using dance and pyrotechnics and any other trick to improve their visual performance. I'm not knocking them as artists, though PPM, BW and EWF are outside my musical interests, because they're all good at what they do. A true artist may not appeal to you too. Don't call it bad because your tastes are differnt

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