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Favourite longish scene?

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Friday, June 25, 2004 12:56 AM

HEB


Okay I was just wondering what everyone’s favourite longish scene was. Not your favourite moment in a scene or favourite lines but a scene that works really well as a whole or is consistently good all the way through.

My current top three would have to be (in no particular order):

1. The argument between Zoe and Wash in War Stories. I think that scene is really well written and acted.
2. River fixing Book’s bible in Jaynestown. I think River’s ramblings are very well written here and the scene is really funny. But most of all I love the way it presents the two sides of the religion argument and doesn’t try to decide which is right.
3. The scene with the gun-stealing in Trash – this scene is just really funny all the way through.

Anyway I’m just interested to see what everyone else’s thoughts are, sorry if this has been discussed to death.


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Friday, June 25, 2004 1:25 AM

KARENKAY99


i think it would have to be the last scene in OIS. it starts with zoe pulling the bullet out of simon, wash with the quick brow mop, the sexual tention between mal & inara, the funny exchange between jayne & book, kaylee's fill-in-the-blank story, ending with the river holding the ball.
longish and lovely

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Friday, June 25, 2004 3:00 AM

ECGORDON

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Yeah, what Karen said.




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Friday, June 25, 2004 3:04 AM

HEB


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Originally posted by karenkay99:
i think it would have to be the last scene in OIS. it starts with zoe pulling the bullet out of simon, wash with the quick brow mop, the sexual tention between mal & inara, the funny exchange between jayne & book, kaylee's fill-in-the-blank story, ending with the river holding the ball.
longish and lovely

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."



And the way they use all one shot to do that - to show everyone's connected. Good choice!

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Friday, June 25, 2004 1:40 PM

MER


I'm not sure if I get it, but correct me if I don't ^-^

Simon's explanation to the crew about River. I dunno why, but it's my favorite. (Serenity)

Not to mention when River's almost burnt at the pole bit. The whole speech, Simon holding onto his sister (brings me to tears just thinking about it), all the way up to the saving bit. (Safe)

Oh and also Mal and Wash's capture in War Stories. Just them wondering around a room, talking is somehow interesting and exciting to me.

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Friday, June 25, 2004 1:56 PM

NIGHTTRAIN


The scene where there all looking at Jayne's statue in Jaynestown.

"You gone got yourself lookin' mighty hideous" ~Jayne

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Friday, June 25, 2004 2:57 PM

SOUPCATCHER


I gotta agree with KarenKay99, ECGordon, and HEB. But that was only after listening to Joss talk about this on the commentary. That scene is pretty amazing on so many levels.

There is one scene that stuck with me from watching it on tv (before I had the advantage of listening to all the background info). That was the whole torture scene with Mal, Wash, and Niska.

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Friday, June 25, 2004 5:23 PM

ANNIK


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Originally posted by MER:
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Oh and also Mal and Wash's capture in War Stories. Just them wondering around a room, talking is somehow interesting and exciting to me.



Yep ... this scene was seared in my husband and my brains from when it aired on TV. We were snickering for days over it, and I couldn't wait to get the DVD set to see that one bit over again. The ongoing argument between the two whilst being tortured was amazing and so very, very funny.

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Friday, June 25, 2004 7:58 PM

KINGOFKOINS


The scene which starts with Jayne and Mal on the bridge, and moves to Simon and Mal on the bridge, ending with just Mal smiling to himself.

There are others, but that's the one that's sticking out right now.

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Friday, June 25, 2004 8:31 PM

THEREALME


I liked the end of "Serenity" with the conversation between Mal and Simon. It's got the "you ain't weak," "If I kill you," and "We're still flying" quotes.

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Friday, June 25, 2004 9:04 PM

JESS


Mine's Jayne in the airlock. I love Mal's speech, and Jayne trying to excuse what he did, and how Mal really was willing to walk away and let Jayne die, and how Jayne asks him not to tell the others what he did. It's the reason I like the episode so much.

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Friday, June 25, 2004 10:39 PM

HEB


Thanks everyone for your great responses. I love all the scenes you mentioned and some might even push one out of my top three. I'll have to give it some thought. Anyway here are my rambling, not very interesting responses to your suggestions (feel free to ignore the following).

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MER
I'm not sure if I get it, but correct me if I don't ^-^

Simon's explanation to the crew about River. I dunno why, but it's my favorite. (Serenity)

Not to mention when River's almost burnt at the pole bit. The whole speech, Simon holding onto his sister (brings me to tears just thinking about it), all the way up to the saving bit. (Safe)

Oh and also Mal and Wash's capture in War Stories. Just them wondering around a room, talking is somehow interesting and exciting to me.

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Ooh great answer. The first two hadn't even occurred to me but they are great. I love the War Stories scene: 'Terse, I can be Terse. Once in flight school I was laconic'. Fantastic! The characterisations of Wash and Mal are perfect in this scene in my opinion. That is so exactly what Wash would be like in that sort of situation.

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NIGHTTRAIN

The scene where there all looking at Jayne's statue in Jaynestown.


Love this one too.

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SOUPCATCHER

There is one scene that stuck with me from watching it on tv (before I had the advantage of listening to all the background info). That was the whole torture scene with Mal, Wash, and Niska.


ANNIK

The ongoing argument between the two whilst being tortured was amazing and so very, very funny.



This one very, very nearly made my top three. As well as being funny I just love the fact that Mal is trying to keep Wash going. When Mal shouts 'listen to me' I think it's just the perfect moment, it nearly makes me cry. You can tell Mal is in pain (obviously) but he doesn't care about that. This is just a perfect scene and a perfect defining moment for Mal. I also love the way Nathan Fillion plays the later torture scenes after Wash has been rescued; I think he plays it so that there is genuine fear there whilst he's still tryining to maintain the 'smart ass' front. He plays it so he's not gonna let Niska win but he's not so far away from it.

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The scene which starts with Jayne and Mal on the bridge, and moves to Simon and Mal on the bridge, ending with just Mal smiling to himself.

THEREALME

I liked the end of "Serenity" with the conversation between Mal and Simon. It's got the "you ain't weak," "If I kill you," and "We're still flying" quotes.



Yeah this would also make my top five. This has the perfect moment for Browncoats:

'We're still flying. That's not much. It's enough.'

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JESS


Mine's Jayne in the airlock. I love Mal's speech, and Jayne trying to excuse what he did, and how Mal really was willing to walk away and let Jayne die, and how Jayne asks him not to tell the others what he did. It's the reason I like the episode so much.



I'd completely forgotten about this one, thank you. It's a great scene and how fit is Mal in it (not that I'm shallow or anything)?



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Saturday, June 26, 2004 2:40 AM

NWUKSTEVE


All good choices so far, I couldn't pick a favourite but I'll add one to the list (hope it's considered long enough).

Jayne's interrogation of the Fed (Dobson?) in Serenity, including the initial exchange with Mal (Pain is scary). Very funny throughout.

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 2:44 AM

HEB


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Originally posted by nwuksteve:
All good choices so far, I couldn't pick a favourite but I'll add one to the list (hope it's considered long enough).

Jayne's interrogation of the Fed (Dobson?) in Serenity, including the initial exchange with Mal (Pain is scary). Very funny throughout.



Yep good scene and long enough too. Sorry about that feel free to say any scene you like I just didn't want to go over the same threads of people's favourite moments and lines and that sort of thing.

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 2:53 AM

AURAPTOR

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This might not fit exactly, but near close enough. In Bushwhacked, when the crew is being interrogated by the commander of the Alliance ship.... it starts off w/ Inara and goes on from crew member to crew member....

You fought with Captain Reynolds in the war.
Zoe: Fought with a lot of people in the war.
And your husband?
Zoe: Fight with him sometimes, too.

All those great responses by Zoe and Wash... " have you ever BEEN with a warrior woman?" ..and then Jayne just sits there...arms folded, defiant..not uttering a gorram word. CLASSIC.

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 2:54 AM

TEELABROWN


Okay, a couple which haven't been mentioned, I think.

JAYNESTOWN- At the end where Jayne and Mal are talking. Jayne just seems to show some regret/remorse/can't-quite-place-it emotion. Very powerful.

OBEJECTS IN SPACE- The part when River is acting as the ship, the exchange between Jubul and River, with some interjections.

There's a ton of others, but they've been said.

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:25 AM

DUCKIE


The scene where Simon has Jayne immobilized on the table after he fell and hurt his back, and Simon tells Jayne that he knows what Jayne did, but he'll never, ever harm him when he's in Simon's care. Then River sticks her head in and says "And I can kill you with my brain." The whole scene is good - especially at the beginning when Jayne realizes Simon knows and says "Is there anybody out there?" and River looks at him around the doorway and he says "Anyone else?" in a small voice. All the actors were great in that scene.

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:56 PM

ANNIK


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Originally posted by heb:

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JESS
Mine's Jayne in the airlock. I love Mal's speech, and Jayne trying to excuse what he did, and how Mal really was willing to walk away and let Jayne die, and how Jayne asks him not to tell the others what he did. It's the reason I like the episode so much.



I'd completely forgotten about this one, thank you. It's a great scene and how fit is Mal in it (not that I'm shallow or anything)?



I can't believe I forgot about this one also! It's my all-time "technical" favourite ... as in, in any SF I've ever seen/read, I've never heard anyone use the technique of threatening airlock expulsion (with an open exterior port) as a method of keelhauling. Brilliant!

Cheers,
Annik
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Saturday, June 26, 2004 2:53 PM

NEDWARD


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
All those great responses by Zoe and Wash... " have you ever BEEN with a warrior woman?" ..and then Jayne just sits there...arms folded, defiant..not uttering a gorram word. CLASSIC.



Good choice! I liked Firefly from moment one (obviously), but I distinctly remember this being the scene that made me a browncoat.

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