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Also, there are several non-genre films I would rank above even those two.

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Originally posted by GWEK:
I mirror the opinions stating that FIREFLY is the best TV show ever (sci fi, non-genre, whatever). For my money, the only thing that comes close is THE SHIELD.

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The original Battlestar Galactica had a similar appeal for me as Firefly at the time that I was into it though it's so obviously retro now, I invested a bit of my heart in the series and characters, and still watch it nostalgically. Like Firefly It makes me feel warm and fuzzy...and I still want to be the woman that Starbuck retires with.

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Originally posted by GWEK:
I mirror the opinions stating that FIREFLY is the best TV show ever (sci fi, non-genre, whatever). For my money, the only thing that comes close is THE SHIELD.

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Agree on those thoughts about TV and THE SHIELD, and I'll throw in THE WIRE, but both are so different than FF.

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Yes, THE SHIELD and FIREFLY are superficially very different, but I'd argue that good storytelling and good characterization is universal.

And, honestly, taking away the trappings of setting, and isn't Mackey just a much darker version of Mal, doing what he feels he must to keep his family together (both his literal one and the Strike Team) while he "keeps flying"? If Simon were less pretty and had a different talent than medicine, might be not be too different from the also too-smart-for-his-own-good and socially-awkward Dutch?

Seriously, though, individual characters aside, I think both shows are about disparate groups of people forced by circumstance to live/work together on a daily basis. Sure, that describes many, many shows, but, hey, most of them don't pull it off nearly as well as either of these two...

Certainly, while working on the Virtual Series over at www.stillflying.net, FIREFLY itself was top of mind, but my writing was equally informed by shows like THE SHIELD, PRISON BREAK, LOST, CARNIVALE, and RESCUE ME (most of which share the FIREFLY themes of forced/found family and marginalized "outsider" heroes).

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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... taking away the trappings of setting, and isn't Mackey just a much darker version of Mal, doing what he feels he must to keep his family together (both his literal one and the Strike Team) while he "keeps flying"? If Simon were less pretty and had a different talent than medicine, might be not be too different from the also too-smart-for-his-own-good and socially-awkward Dutch?

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Originally posted by boris:
The original Battlestar Galactica had a similar appeal for me as Firefly at the time that I was into it though it's so obviously retro now, I invested a bit of my heart in the series and characters, and still watch it nostalgically. Like Firefly It makes me feel warm and fuzzy...and I still want to be the woman that Starbuck retires with.

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That original show had a great family feel to it, and it is still very much beloved, as evidenced by the popularity of the former cast who regularly attend sci-fi conventions. The cast members that I've met have all been very friendly, and they're all appreciative of how loyal the fans still are to that show.

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Though, not sci-fi, I was a big fan of The X-Files and Millennium.

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No other sci-fi TV show comes close to Firefly for me..... and the only other show that is on a par with Firefly is Northern Exposure. But it does that on a whole other level...

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The ep where Serena dies destroys me...

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One of the first things she did after leaving Battlestar was Somewhere In Time, which is one of my favorite movies of all time. So I forgave her.

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but how is the X-Files, a show that revolved in great part around aliens - NOT sci fi?

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IMHO, the TV series should have ended with the movie instead of returning back for a 6th & 7th TV season.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
No TV show is or was ever better than Firefly. None were even as good. That is my personal opinion, based on my viewing choices over the last 40 years. When I have free time to enjoy a dvd, it's usually one of those 4 discs.

Unfortunately, I cannot say the same for Serenity. I like the movie, and I'm eternally grateful it got made, because without it I likely never would have discovered Firefly. But there are hundreds of movies I prefer to watch.

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