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Hi, Firefly just got to Israel.

POSTED BY: KIR86
UPDATED: Monday, July 19, 2004 03:41
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Friday, July 16, 2004 10:30 PM

KIR86


Yeah, umm, Firefly just got to israel, and as a matter of fact, it's over already (~15 episodes).
I found out that there're no more series, no more firefly seasons. So, I wanted to ask you stuff, What about the movie(s)? I read somewhere it is more than 1 movie? is that correct? and what's the deal with cancelling this high potentiol (typo?) show? This show is great to me as a sci fi fan and as one that watches alot of movies and series :).

All the characters are great. Jayne is funny is in a retardedly way (example: "The Message" Episode with the hat ), Kaylee is cute and smart and so on.
If i'll have anything more to say, i'll post here :)

p.s: What is this language they talk in sometimes? sounds a bit like chinese..

"Somewhere, there's a bullet with your name on it. The trick is to die of age before it finds you" - Mal, "The Message".

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Friday, July 16, 2004 10:59 PM

THEREALME


Hi, and yes, please post any ideas.

The idea of the show is that "The Alliance" is one between descendents/successors of China and the US, so that Mandarin often creeps into the conversations, mostly as curses.

A movie, "Serenity", not to be confused with the pilot episode, is being made that will open in the US in April of 2005. Depending on its success, there may be more movies.

The reason the show was cancelled? There has been much speculation on that, but it amounts pretty much to the show being put in a deadly time slot (and maybe moved around a lot), the pilot "Serenity" being shown last, not first, and the episodes being shown in an almost random order. In short, it seems that some Fox executive decided to exercise "initiative" to "improve" the show.

The bottom line (as always) was that the numbers did not suggest that the show should continue.

This mystifies me as much as the popularity of the inspid Reality Type shows that replaced it.



The Real Me

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Friday, July 16, 2004 11:11 PM

KIR86


Thanks for replying.
In israel they showed it in exact order, I was really surprised.

So, you're saying that if firefly was put in a more convinient time slot on FOX, then it wouldn't have been canceled? I thought it didn't have good rating...
Anyway, to be this show is really great and I wish I could do something to bring it back

"Somewhere, There's a bullet with your name on it. The trick is to die of age before it finds you" - Mal, "The Messanger".

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Friday, July 16, 2004 11:11 PM

KIR86


Oh, what's with Inara? is she in love with mal? cuz in that episode with the "Whores" she cried after he told her that he spent the night with Nandi.

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Friday, July 16, 2004 11:59 PM

PURPLEBELLY


Perhaps her tears were over Nandi, not Mal?

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:01 AM

KIR86


She cried before nandi was killed...

"Somewhere, There's a bullet with your name on it. The trick is to die of age before it finds you" - Mal, "The Messanger".

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:21 AM

PURPLEBELLY


Nandi, not Nandi's death

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 1:29 AM

SPOOKYJESUS


He means gay shit

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 3:29 AM

FIREFLYGAL


Hi Kir86
It is so sweet to watch the newbies discover Firefly, going through the same trials and tribulation we (US) did a couple of years ago! I'm teasin' ya Kir86. You have found friendship with the Browncoats here on the board and with a little searching on the posts you will find guesses (Joss Whedon is the only one who knows the truth)to all your questions and more!

As far as why Fox cancelled it, well, it always comes down to the money doesn't it? And if Firefly wasn't making it (through no fault of its own) they yank it off the air. Universal, who is backing the movie "gets it" and depending on its success (which we Browncoats have a direct role to play by buying tickets and seeing it over and over) there could be multiple movies. Jewel Staite (Kaylee) says Fox has the TV rights for 10 years.

Welcome to the world of Firefly!

Fireflygal

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 6:13 AM

DARKJESTER


Hello Kir86, and welcome! We are all here because we love Firefly. You are among friends.

There are a LOT of questions we have about the characters - what is Shepherd Book's past, why is Inara so afraid to get involved with Mal, will Kaylee and Simon EVER kiss.......

People have their own theories. Some make a lot of sense, some not so much. I have two suggestions. One, read through the old posts here at FireflyFans.net. Haken, the guy who runs this place (thanks again Haken!) has all the old threads available to read, and they should answer a lot of your questions. And Two, watch the episodes again and again. You will see things you missed the first (or even fifth) time through.

Once again, welcome!!

MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:07 PM

KIR86


Thanks for replying guys
I'll try and read the old threads

"Somewhere, There's a bullet with your name on it. The trick is to die of age before it finds you" - Mal, "The Messanger".

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 10:10 PM

REGINLEIF


Wow, an Israeli fan! I'm not alone!
First of all, welcome.
Second - as you probably understood already, there's gonna be a movie. It will come out on April 22, 2005. It's name will be Serenity, and I do hope it will get to Israel (or I'm gonna kill somebody...)
The language they speak is Chinese. The idea is that the only nations that remained from Earth-That-Was are the US and China.
Now why was the show cancelled? There are a couple of reasons, and the main is that not enough people were watching it. I myself blame Fox for placing the show on a horrible time slot, mixing the order of the episodes, not showing the original pilot and many more reasons. If you want to read more about it in Hebrew, here's a good link: http://www.tve.co.il/story.asp?id=1642
it's an article about it.

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Sunday, July 18, 2004 1:45 AM

PERSON


Both of you aren't alone.. I'm Israeli too, although I've seen the show before it got to the television.
By the way, it's not over yet, I think.. Or is objects in space the last one?

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Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:30 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Welcome to the board Kir86, Reginleif, & Person. It is great to have new fans, especially those from other countries join us. It is great to see the show is still floating around out there bringing in new browncoats.

Unfortunately Person, Objects in Space is the final episode.

There is the DVD set out now (though I am not sure if Israel is considered Region 2 or not) and the movie coming out in the Spring. Still a lot going on in the Firefly verse.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Sunday, July 18, 2004 9:21 AM

CYBERSNARK


Ni haody, newcomers.

And as for the "FOX has the rights for 10 years" issue, assuming Serenity becomes the blockbuster we're all hoping for, I'm guessing FOX might call 'em back. . .

*JOSS & TIM arrive for a meeting with a derby-hatted FOX exec*

(. . .)

JOSS WHEDON: You killed our show. Left us hanging.

TIM MINEAR: Hurt our feelings.

JOSS: You recall why that took place?

FOX EXEC: Had a problem with your ratings is why. Viewers didn't like it. Thought it was. . . what's the word?

MINEAR: Pretentious?

*Joss glares sidelong*

EXEC: Exactly! You think you're better than our other shows.

JOSS: Just the ones we're better than.

(. . .)

(With apologies to Joss, Tim, and Badger, for comparing him to FOX. Badger doesn't deserve that; he's better than them.)

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Monday, July 19, 2004 3:41 AM

REGINLEIF


LOL

As to the question about the DVD - no, you can't get them in Israel (though maybe now after the show was aired someone will change that) but you can order them on the internet (*ahm*like I did). I really hope the show will get popular in Israel so that the DVDs will be sold here too and the movie will arrive here faster.

You can't take the sky from me.

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