Top Ten Sci-Fi Movies of the Decade (2000-2009) by Shinygoodguy

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Commence Oh Festivale!

You must be joking!

Serenity
Solaris
Children Of Men
Moon
Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
Terminator: Salvation
Avatar
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
Watchmen

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, October 25, 2010 2:18 PM

CALHOUN

If you read down the bottom of that link to top 10 scifi movies see what people have to say.. there are some people out there claiming Serenity and Firefly to be the worst crap ever!! I was stunned to think that there are people out there that are so clueless...

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Monday, October 25, 2010 6:46 PM

CALHOUN

Fair call.. I knew that they are out there. I just don't like it. :)

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:22 AM

Unfortunately, Beatupplenty makes a strong point.
DWTS is (ugh!) popular, but then again we came this close to having Sarah Palin being second in command of the entire country (okay, okay we've got Joe Biden - let's call it a draw); and I'm smiling as I'm write this.

BIG SMILE, BIG SMILE!

On a similar note our youth has Jersey Shore.
Can somebody tell me what kind of a world do we live in, where a man with washboard abs get all the press?
This country needs an enema!

Thank God for Fringe, Firefly etc.

Let us not digress!

SGG

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:26 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:

Commence Oh Festivale!

You must be joking!

Serenity
Solaris
Children Of Men
Moon
Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
Terminator: Salvation
Avatar
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
Watchmen

The laughing Chrisisall

I knew you'd get it, Chris!
;-)

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:32 AM

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BIG SMILE, BIG SMILE!

And THAT'S Riggs talkin'.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:26 AM

And THAT'S Riggs talkin'.

Can't get one past youisall!

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:29 AM

1. Avatar
2. Star Trek
3. Serenity
4. Terminator Salvation

Those are my favorites of the decade.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:43 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
1. Avatar
2. Star Trek
3. Serenity
4. Terminator Salvation

Those are my favorites of the decade.

Mostly good list, but "Star Trek?" That's kind of a light movie, SF-wise, doncha think?
And yeah, Terminator: Salvation is very under-appreciated IMO.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:52 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
1. Avatar
2. Star Trek
3. Serenity
4. Terminator Salvation

Those are my favorites of the decade.

Mostly good list, but "Star Trek?" That's kind of a light movie, SF-wise, doncha think?
And yeah, Terminator: Salvation is very under-appreciated IMO.

The laughing Chrisisall

I'd say Trek is leagues better than that POS Salvation.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:00 AM

My list, in no particular order:

Serenity
Moon
Pitch Black
Children of Men
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
District 9
Star Trek
Avatar
Minority Report
Solaris

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:11 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Minority Report

I'd say Treminator: Salvation is leagues better than that POS Report.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:13 AM

Yes, but your taste is rather.... notorious....

But either way, I'd gladly hold up a critically acclaimed and popular flick from one of the best directors ever, based on a story from a classic writer that tries, albiet not entirely successfully, to explore some heady ideas over a failed cash-in attempt with a hastily slapped together script that can't even settle on an idea lead by the directing powerhouse called McG that was savaged in reviews and flopped so hard they had to auction off the rights afterward.... but that's me.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:23 AM

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a critically acclaimed and popular flick from one of the best directors ever, based on a story from a classic writer

that was totally compromised in the nonsensical happy happy crowd-pleasing ending that felt like part of a totally different movie.

It was almost the SF movie of the decade, too...

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:26 AM

I agree the ending was a mis-step. But I will always lean toward a film that tries for greatness and falls a bit short than one that strives for mediocrity and succeeds.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:26 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
1. Avatar
2. Star Trek
3. Serenity
4. Terminator Salvation

Those are my favorites of the decade.

Mostly good list, but "Star Trek?" That's kind of a light movie, SF-wise, doncha think?
And yeah, Terminator: Salvation is very under-appreciated IMO.

Star Trek a "light movie"???
Alternate timeline
Space ships & battles
Destruction of Vulcan
Kirk at the Academy
Pike being inspirational
Uhura being hot
Spock and McCoy back at it

Damn good movie sci-fi wise.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:31 AM

T4 was the best of the bunch since the original. It was what I had been waiting to see for 25 years, the actual war against the machines. It's a relatively "small" story, but it is very well done, and the plot is excellent. Hopefully we'll see more of that war in future movies.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:35 AM

The plot is excellent if you don't pay attention. But when even your actors are pointing out plot holes, it's hardly an air-tight script.

I'm glad you got your future war though. Glad it satisfied you. But I found it to be far and away the worst of the franchise.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:40 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I will always lean toward a film that tries for greatness and falls a bit short than one that strives for mediocrity and succeeds.

LOL, that was pretty funny.
No, it was a really good movie, just not one of my favourites because of my own issues with it (hated the rolling eyeballs thing).

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:44 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Star Trek a "light movie"???
Alternate timeline
Space ships & battles
Destruction of Vulcan
Kirk at the Academy
Pike being inspirational
Uhura being hot
Spock and McCoy back at it

Damn good movie sci-fi wise.

You've convinced me.

New list:

Serenity
Solaris
Children Of Men
Moon
Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
Terminator: Salvation
Avatar
Iron Man
Star Trek
Watchmen

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:49 AM

DEWRASTLER

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
T4 was the best of the bunch since the original. It was what I had been waiting to see for 25 years, the actual war against the machines. It's a relatively "small" story, but it is very well done, and the plot is excellent. Hopefully we'll see more of that war in future movies.

I have to disagree on both accounts. T2 will always be my favorite, partly because I thoroughly enjoy Linda Hamilton's transformation in hard core woman she is in T2.

And as far as T4, I was expecting more of a war movie, not another "let's try and kill John Connor so we can win the war" movie. I'd seen that three times already. The machines need a new strategy.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:52 AM

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I found it to be far and away the worst of the franchise.

Worse than #3!?!?!?!?!?

Non sequiter- your facts are un-co-ordinated...
error error
faulty...

must, you know...

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:56 AM

BTW, I thought A.I. was a DAMN good movie. I considered it for my list. Now, THAT was a gorram ending!!!! Still blows my mind to think of it.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:07 AM

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I found it to be far and away the worst of the franchise.

Worse than #3!?!?!?!?!?

Non sequiter- your facts are un-co-ordinated...
error error
faulty...

must, you know...

The laughing Chrisisall

Absolutely. It wasn't great, and was a bit too cheesy in places. But it had a story that actually made sense, and it had one of the flat-out ballsiest ending EVER for a summer popcorn flick (and was far better than the slapped together at the last minute end to T4).

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:24 AM

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(and was far better than the slapped together at the last minute end to T4).

I'm not sure I would have liked the original ending at all. There is such a thing as TOO MUCH twist ending...

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:36 AM

It would have pissed people off, to be sure. But it still would have been an ending that the movie actually built to, rather than one tacked on to make fans happy, regardless of whether or not it actually suited the story they had decided to tell.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:41 AM

Strange... I liked the happy happy on the end of Salvation, yet I felt cheated by the happy happy on Minority Report... I guess it's because I saw MR as a serious SF film, and Salvation as just a cool re-watchable experience.

More proof of to each their own, eh?

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:49 AM

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But it still would have been an ending that the movie actually built to, rather than one tacked on to make fans happy, regardless of whether or not it actually suited the story they had decided to tell.

AND, that puts me in mind of that POS ending to Generations. I still won't own that frelling frakking gorram ruttin' go-se because of it!

The sidetracked Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:19 AM

I don't see the correlation, as the movie was set from the start to end with Kirk's death.

Or are you saying you would have preferred the original "Kirk gets shot in the back while making a quip" ending?

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I don't see the correlation, as the movie was set from the start to end with Kirk's death.

Salvation's ending was changed from the original, as I believe Generation's SHOULD have been.
Just to make ME happy!!!!

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Or are you saying you would have preferred the original "Kirk gets shot in the back while making a quip" ending?

That would have been the better 'Kirk Death' ending, IMHO.
Anything but that Wyle E. Coyote death.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:46 AM

The plot is excellent if you don't pay attention. But when even your actors are pointing out plot holes, it's hardly an air-tight script.

I'm glad you got your future war though. Glad it satisfied you. But I found it to be far and away the worst of the franchise.
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To me T2 can still hold it's head up high. Salvation had some elements that appealed to me as a sci-fi geek but ultimately, as with Minority Report, I would have gone in a different direction. But thats me.

Both merit honorable mention, both could have used different directors, and both deserved better. The Terminator series because, well, the story is a good one; and MR because of Philip K. Dick. Having said that, I like MR more than T4.

SGG

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:55 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

For what it's worth, here are my picks, in no particular order except for the first one.

Serenity
A. I.
Children of Men
The Man From Earth
A Scanner Darkly
The Road
Moon
District 9
Avatar
The Dark Knight

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:06 PM

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That would have been the better 'Kirk Death' ending, IMHO.
Anything but that Wyle E. Coyote death.

Hm. Okay. Fair enough. I found that ending a bit underwhelming myself. At least as it stands, he goes out trying to save a planet, not congradulating himself.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:08 PM

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The Dark Knight

Ok, so I realize there is a bit of flexibility in sci-fi, and that superheroes push that line, but how is The Dark Knight sci-fi? Iron Man I get, but this one.... not so much.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:08 PM

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Serenity

Obviously the best.

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A. I.

A great flick, no question.

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Children of Men

That too.

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The Man From Earth

Almost, but the weird coincidence of his son dying felt shoehorned in...

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A Scanner Darkly

Very trippy.

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The Road

Not seen it, was it really that good??

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Moon

Awesomeness.

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District 9

Quite impressive.

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Avatar

Expected Cameron spectacle. Very cool.

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The Dark Knight

A let down for me, after the stellar Batman Begins- Bale's sore throat, that Gyllanhall chick, and some hasty CGI took it down a peg or two IMO.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
how is The Dark Knight sci-fi? Iron Man I get, but this one.... not so much.

My idea too.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:11 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

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The Dark Knight

Ok, so I realize there is a bit of flexibility in sci-fi, and that superheroes push that line, but how is The Dark Knight sci-fi? Iron Man I get, but this one.... not so much.

I think it as much SF (hate the term sci-fi by the way) as Watchmen or Iron Man, even more so than Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I would have put Batman Begins on the list as well, except I didn't want to drop any of the other titles.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:22 AM

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The Dark Knight

Ok, so I realize there is a bit of flexibility in sci-fi, and that superheroes push that line, but how is The Dark Knight sci-fi? Iron Man I get, but this one.... not so much.

I think it as much SF (hate the term sci-fi by the way) as Watchmen or Iron Man, even more so than Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I would have put Batman Begins on the list as well, except I didn't want to drop any of the other titles.

Yes, but why? Iron Man has mech suits - sci-fi. Watchmen has super powers, teleportation, etc - sci-fi. Eternal Sunshine has memory manipulation - sci-fi. Dark Knight has.... a guy in body armor... It's got some slightly hieghtened technology I suppose, but nothing really all that advanced. Beyond that... I can't think of any sci-fi elements present.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:44 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
That would have been the better 'Kirk Death' ending, IMHO.
Anything but that Wyle E. Coyote death.

Kirk and Picard were both in the Nexus; both actually in their own Nexus. All they had to do apparently was to "wish" their way out of the Nexus back to that planet before the energy ribbon appeared so they could stop Dr. Soran.......SO....why couldn't Picard or Kirk or both wish their way back into the Nexus after they got rid of Dr. Soran, therefore keeping Kirk forever alive in the Nexus?

Furthermore, if the energy ribbon can be tracked as was shown, then why not use it for good, like sending dying or crippled people into it? Seems like a great final destination to me.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:15 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
That would have been the better 'Kirk Death' ending, IMHO.
Anything but that Wyle E. Coyote death.

Kirk and Picard were both in the Nexus; both actually in their own Nexus. All they had to do apparently was to "wish" their way out of the Nexus back to that planet before the energy ribbon appeared so they could stop Dr. Soran.......SO....why couldn't Picard or Kirk or both wish their way back into the Nexus after they got rid of Dr. Soran, therefore keeping Kirk forever alive in the Nexus?

Furthermore, if the energy ribbon can be tracked as was shown, then why not use it for good, like sending dying or crippled people into it? Seems like a great final destination to me.

Much better examples of why that movie kinda sucks.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:28 PM

Dark Knight, sci-fi? really!? It's a stretch to be sure.

But Chris, you really didn't like DK? I really thought you, of all people, would totally get it.

"A let down for me, after the stellar Batman Begins- Bale's sore throat, that Gyllanhall chick, and some hasty CGI took it down a peg or two IMO".

Okay, the Gyllenhall chick, I give you that one.
Casting her was a mistake. I also thought Katie Holmes was wrongly cast in BB. My choice would have been either Elizabeth Banks or Anne Hathaway.

Bale's sore throat - well, he needs to disguise his voice, plus scare the bejeesus out of the criminal element; so thats a device that (IMO) delivered the goods. In BB it was a bit overdone, but in DK it was necessary and brought gravitas to the character. Both he and the Joker were going for broke, they were opposite sides of the same coin (TwoFace) and depicted just how thin the line is between sanity and insanity.

I'm not sure what in DK's CGI you considered tacked on, but I thought it was seamless. I regard DK among the top 10 films of the decade, along with The Departed, Eternal Sunshine and American Beauty (just to name a few).

SGG

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:48 PM

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I'm not sure what in DK's CGI you considered tacked on, but I thought it was seamless.

Joker upside-down swinging just took me out of it, as did the Gyllanhall girl. Small things to others are big things to some. It's a good film, but I can't watch it again without feeling like I should be watching Batman Begins or Iron Man 2.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:04 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

I really don't care what other people consider sci-fi. I prefer the term SF, which stands for "speculative fiction," and that would include science fiction, techno-thrillers with advanced tech, plus the superhero sub-genre. I recall a previous thread in which Chris listed Superman as a sci-fi film, and if that fits then so does The Dark Knight.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:42 AM