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Browncoats haven't even managed to raise that much for Equality Now, which, while it's not Firefly, is certainly a more worthy cause.

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Originally posted by Channain:
I'm told by a reputable browncoat in London that $50 million was raised for a statue of Robocop.

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Originally posted by TVChick:
Smells scam-y to me. Unless Nathan himself gives it the ok, I'm staying away.

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Yes, but only half the fans liked Serenity. I still say that it isn't as good as the series, and I saw it 7 times.

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DMI Said:
Half? Where are you getting that?

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Like anything in life you loved and lost... you need to move on.

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Stand out of the flock.

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http://helpnathanbuyfirefly.com/?p=11

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Originally posted by SoulOfSerenity:
Good gorram! Whatever happened to "We hold! We hold 'til the Captain gets back!"????

The last time I checked, we are Browncoats, not Purplebellies. I've been a fan since the very beginning. Hell, I was a fan when I saw the previews for the show, before it even aired! I will hold, and I will keep hope alive. There's no point in trying to bring down the rest of us just because you've given up.

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Zeek said:
This kind of detachment from reality is exactly the type of thing I think should be avoided. That's a line from a movie. It's just a work of fiction. Purple bellies are also fictional. Just like the chances this campaign will work.

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It just doesn't seem healthy to me to be getting to worked up over something like this. If people want to have an open honest discussion about it then that's cool. Throwing out a bunch of hype and getting people excited over nothing but a website just doesn't sit well with me.

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This kind of detachment from reality is exactly the type of thing I think should be avoided. That's a line from a movie. It's just a work of fiction. Purple bellies are also fictional. Just like the chances this campaign will work.

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And you're more than welcome to your opinion, Mr. "I would date Lois Lane from Smallville." So fiction is okay when it comes to hot characters you'd like to date - so noted and glad for the distinction, thank you.

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It just doesn't seem healthy to me to be getting to worked up over something like this. If people want to have an open honest discussion about it then that's cool. Throwing out a bunch of hype and getting people excited over nothing but a website just doesn't sit well with me.

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This is an open and honest discussion by "people" aka Browncoats who are very passionate about this very subject. The fact that we happen to use Firefly lingo to express it is just fun, that's all.

I feel the need to spread the word, until I deem that it's time to not. You are more than welcome to contradict me until it's time to stop.

Rock?

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Yeah it's a message board. We can all say what we want for the most part. I just feel the need to set the record straight when I think people are posting misleading things.

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You can understand the difference between hypothetical questions and questions based in reality, right? If not this whole mix up might be easier to explain.

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For anybody who missed it, here's a few of the previous fan campaigns:

There's been FireflySeason2.com - now defunct - previous thread http://whedonesque.com/comments/9347 - which was registered in an address on Fox's lot with somebody claiming to be in contact with joss and the actors to get the rights off Fox. It was unrealistic balls.

There was 2009's MySerenitySequel.com - now defunct - with aimed to collect $50 x 400,000 people.. This is the same math as HelpNathanBuyFirefly.com are using, as it happens.

Also browncoatsriseagain.com - now defunct - previous thread http://whedonesque.com/comments/9309 - which was collecting money via Paypal until one of the producers talked them out of it and got the money returned.

There were also some things called Operation Blue Hands, Operation Full Burn etc.

gossi | February 21, 17:28 CET

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Originally posted by Channain:
"BTW: Firefly ratings back in 2002? About a 2.9 in the adult demo. Which nowadays is considered a success — it’s what CSI and The Mentalist pulled this week. Not that the space-western would likely get the same numbers if on the air today when there’s so much more competition from cable, but it’s interesting to think about."

Makes you wonder why, doesn't it?

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Originally posted by Corncobb:
Well, I'm intrigued. Not ready to commit to pledging or anything yet, but as soon as Joss or Nathan is on board then so am I.

Okay, it may be a long shot. That doesn't mean it's not worth a try. Nobody ever accomplished anything by not bothering to try.

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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And if it turns out it is misleading or malicious in anyway, I will be the first to say so. In ALL CAPS on each and every venue I've already posted my support. There will be fire, and there will be brimstone. You can rely upon that.

What you should reconsider, though, is the idea that Nathan wasn't kidding about doing an Internet series. He would be crazy to give up a gig as good as Castle, but he's also doing a voice-over for the Green Lantern. Doing Firefly on the Internet would be a side venture - a guy has to do something during the hiatus, right? Why not devote his time to regaining a role his still treasures?

Unless you're a personal friend of his and can say for a fact that he said to you, "No, I didn't mean that," then any doubts you have about his actions are as superfluous as my confidence in him. FYI, I haven't met him either, nor do I have the pleasure of calling him my friend. But then I give that title to a very distinct few.

So as much as you object to me being misleading, I object to your unfounded opinion about what a perfect if very visual stranger would or would not do.

Given that, and a healthy dose of reality, I can support this venture. I supported Serenity and I still believe that without the Browncoats there wouldn't have been a movie. I will even accept that we didn't do as much as we'd like to think, but without people to buy the tickets, we still wouldn't even be talking about it in these terms.

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I mean it's pretty clear that these mini-campaigns are doing damage to the fandom as it is. I mean Two's post just shows that these are getting lumped together as just the next in a list of similar failures. When the time comes that we really can make a difference we'll be the browncoats who cried wolf. Maybe this is the time it will work and here I am being jaded. Do we really want to breed feelings like that?

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Do we need hope for more Firefly/Serenity to enjoy each other's company? I don't.

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What really makes me wonder is what FOX replaced Firefly with. Did the next show in Firefly's timeslot do worse? And what then replaced the replacement? Did it also do worse than Firefly? If we knew about those replacements, we could rationally judge FOX based only upon business considerations and audience numbers. My non-rational judgment, without need for numbers, is FOX failed.

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Fastlane moved into the Friday night slot on Jan. 10, 2003, but it had aired nine episodes previously on Wednesdays before Firefly was canceled. It did get a full season of 22 eps but wasn't renewed after that. I don't recall what was in that time slot for the 2003-4 season.

EDIT: According to wikipedia, there were two sitcoms in that slot in the fall of '03, "Wanda at Large" and "Luis," followed by "Boston Public," then BP was moved to the earlier hour in early '04 when "Wonderfalls" premiered.

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Paging Storymark. Did anyone take that interview too seriously now?

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This is a horrible campaign. I don't think Nathan would want to be involved with this in any way. Too many expectations and potential problems. You want to do this all in good fun then make it a "mail Nathan lottery tickets" game. Even that might not go over so well with him.

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