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Why Fox did not like Firefly
Monday, August 2, 2004 7:58 AM
SHEPHERDQ
Monday, August 2, 2004 2:38 PM
MER
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JAYNEZTOWN
Monday, August 2, 2004 3:22 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Tuesday, August 3, 2004 12:13 AM
LITTLEMANLOVESFIRE
Tuesday, August 3, 2004 12:18 AM
KRAMER
Tuesday, August 3, 2004 9:37 AM
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Tuesday, August 3, 2004 10:36 AM
POTHER
Quote:Originally posted by Littlemanlovesfire: If there's any Americans here, remember that FOX is the network that put President Bush in power when you didn't actually vote for him. He didn't win that election and FOX is the major reason for his getting into the whitehouse. Their remit after 9/11 was to provide television which kept the masses happy, didn't make them think too much (Oh, hello reality TV!) and which united them as a country (Wooooo! Go America! Yeah!). Then comes Firefly. At a time when the American government was manipulative, evil and corrupt you suddenly have a show which is saying "Government is evil, don't trust Government!" Seems pretty obvious why it was pulled. Wouldn't happen on the BBC...
Tuesday, August 3, 2004 11:15 AM
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HASLINGER
Tuesday, August 3, 2004 12:44 PM
SERGEANTX
Tuesday, August 3, 2004 12:48 PM
SARDONICA
Quote:Originally posted by ShepherdQ: I know we all would have loved to have been around to hear the execs discussions on the topic of Firefly.. but a notable thing.. Even when execs decide to cancel a series, than can bring it back if they find out the fan base was there.. and they found that out but did not bring it back... Why not, you ask... Perhaps it is the start of Unifacation. !!!! Well, all know the media decides what slant to put on the news and to slant things to tell us how we SHOULD feel about a piece of news ( at least the way they want us to see it )... soooo Perhaps they feared people would see that the Unifacation in Firefly is coming fast and wanted to buy time.. kill the series and let people forget ! Not let us see that the media already has more power than any politician or government. That business is in control.. think fossil fuel usage, alternate energy we do not have, cigarettes, wars ( makes money for business ) , airplane safety ( they can put off repairs or safety fixes ). Even make sure you only see/hear/read what they want you to, such as the local news about a cop vs civilian encounter.. and best friend of the arrested says his friend is innocent and did not resist.. and THAT gets all the news, but the 20 other witnesses that say the guy resisted and hit the cop is ignored. yep... Unifacation..... Any different ideas ??? Browncoats are bad... now you have Browncoats from the south ! The Journey is the worthier part.
Tuesday, August 3, 2004 1:57 PM
OUTSIDER
Quote:Originally posted by Pother: Well if you wanted a RESPONSE, you're going to get one from me. I would suggest you spend a little less money on your trash tabloids, and put a little more effort into making your aluminum foil hat. "American", yes I am, and proud to be one. (Can I assume you are not? You didn't bother to mention where you are from. No pride for your own nation of origin?) "FOX is the network that put President Bush in power when you didn't actually vote for him. He didn't win that election and FOX is the major reason for his getting into the whitehouse." This is so full of GORRAM CRAP that I don't know where to begin. 1.) Are you saying all our other major news networks have no marketshare or influence? Come on! Assuming FoxNews is as you would say, proBush, that still left ABCnews, CBSnews, NBCnews, MSNBCnews, CNNnews, HeadlineNews, and lets not forget the BBCnews, which were all proGore and/or antiBush. Either ALL THOSE other networks are REALLY BAD doing what they do, or YOU are attributing WAY TOO MUCH to FoxNews' influence. 2.) Yes, I ACTUALLY DID VOTE FOR HIM, and I'm glad I did! 3.) Yes, he DID win the election! Sorry if you don't like our electoral college system, but it was created to prevent mobs of idiots jumping to illogical and false conclusions, like yourself, from gaining control of our Government by simple majority, and trashing it into oblivion. "Their remit after 9/11 was to provide television which kept the masses happy, didn't make them think too much (Oh, hello reality TV!) and which united them as a country (Wooooo! Go America! Yeah!)." Alas, more GORRAM VOMIT. 1.) I'm guessing you are from, or favor, a socialist country because of your remark "kept the masses happy". Americans started out as, and hopefully will remain, a nation of INDIVIDUALS. We don't think in terms of being part of a "mass of people", we think in terms of being "individuals". Yes, it is obvious some Americans take that individuality, freedom, and liberty, for granted. And some do think the ways of governments that keep "happy masses" better. We'll see how it plays out this next election. I'm thinking President Bush will continue to be our President, because there are still more "individuals" in this country than "members of mass mobs". 2.) Its OBVIOUS your TV isn't exactly making you "think too much" either. 3.) Why the sarcasm in "(Wooooo! Go America! Yeah!)". Why don't you be OPEN about what you feel? If you HATE America, say it! Better yet why don't you say (Woooo! Go Whereever-you-are-from! Yeah!) Feel good because of where you live, not because of what you hate about where others live... (assuming you like where you live). Then comes Firefly. At a time when the American government was manipulative, evil and corrupt you suddenly have a show which is saying "Government is evil, don't trust Government!" Seems pretty obvious why it was pulled. Yes, this is the kind of a conclusion an aluminum-foil-hat-wearing-type-person might make. But aside from your probable need to seek treatment for schizophrenia, or some other such condition that enables you to jump to conclusions that most people wouldn't think of jumping to, let alone attempt to reason to. 1.) "American government was manipulative, evil and corrupt"? Just which part of our government is it that manipulates, is evil, and is corrupt? Head on over to http://www.us.gov/Agencies/Federal/All_Agencies/index.shtml and you'll find a pretty thorough list of Departments and Agencies in our government. Then you can start creating a bibliographic database linking the evidence you have in hand to which of those departments or agencies are manipulative, evil, or corrupt! I should like to see how you've reached your conclusions, and just which departments and agencies you consider manipulative, evil, or corrupt! 2.) "a show which is saying "Government is evil, don't trust Government!"... oh, this is FUNNY... the person who likes socialist societies, is a fan of a show which says "don't trust Government!" Ha! Better not let your "Big Brother" catch you watching Firefly! Oh the IRONY of this line! If it wasn't so STUPID I'd be ROFL! Wouldn't happen on the BBC... Yes, we all know the BBC is almighty, correct and powerful in everything. What other networks do you watch to get alternative points of view? Would that be BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, CBBC, or CBEEBIES? What I really don't understand, is where anyone gets off criticizing what America is trying to do to put an end to terrorism and such crazies as Saddam and Osama. You say we're evil, and we're purposefully killing and hurting innocent people... You say you care more, and your governmental system is more sympathetic to the plights of other peoples around the world... And yet, look at Sudan and Chad... women are being raped, children and families killed, and human genocide, yet again... and which country is it that is pushing for something to be done, NOW? Oh! I know, yeah, that pushy, evil, controlling America... and I suppose if we even thought about mounting any sort of forceful assistance to end that situation, you'd say BUSH was doing it for what? OIL? SAND? Or so his family can could get rich in the new slave trade they have going there!
Tuesday, August 3, 2004 2:07 PM
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