Movieline blogger thinks Browncoats are dumb and selfish by DMI

You guys really don't think he has any sort of point? I kinda see where he's coming from. Heck I know one local browncoat who agrees and hasn't joined in with any of this campaign because of it.

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Thursday, February 24, 2011 1:00 PM

WHOZIT

I heard he likes to shove Gerbels up his ass....but you didn't hear that from me.

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Thursday, February 24, 2011 1:18 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:
I heard he likes to shove Gerbels up his ass....but you didn't hear that from me.

Come on man if this whole thing is supposed to be putting Firefly in the spotlight and getting new people curious about the series, then we really don't need posts like that for new people to read. Can't we take the high road here?

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Thursday, February 24, 2011 1:19 PM

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.

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Originally posted by Zeek:
You guys really don't think he has any sort of point? I kinda see where he's coming from. Heck I know one local browncoat who agrees and hasn't joined in with any of this campaign because of it.

I think he has about as much of a point as anyone who says, "couldn't you give that to charity, instead?" I think that about fancy cars, but it's still not my place tell people how to spend their money. If I had thousands of dollars to either buy a porche or give to a charity, I'd give it to charity in a second, but I couldn't care less about a car.

I could go around giving every extra cent I earn to charity and live my whole life in poverty, but instead I'd rather have a nice house, a computer and eat well. Does that make me a bad person? I doubt it.

I still give to charity, but I'm not a slave to it and I don't feel guilty every time I spend money, and let's face it, most of what we spend money on isn't necessary. Food, clothing, and shelter are the bare basics and yet here we all are on the internet which takes a lot of things that aren't necessary to our survival. That money could have gone to charity.

I look at it like this: what is having Firefly come back actually worth to me in money? My answer is that Firefly is worth more than anything currently on Television. So I'd be willing to give more than a year's worth of cable bills to get Firefly back. Hell, I'd even say it's worth what I pay for netflix in a year on top of that. So that's the entertainment portion of my budget. Hands off charity.

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Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:31 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by whozit:
I heard he likes to shove Gerbels up his ass....but you didn't hear that from me.

Thanks for proving the MovieLine poster's point about Firefly fans being dumb, at least in your case...

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:16 PM

WISHIMAY

Aww, don't go makin' him retreat back into chat, if I see the words "boobie" or "boogers" or "burp" one more time from him, I'm gonna

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Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:30 PM

THEHAPPYTRADER

I'm kinda poor at the moment, not long out of college as it were, so my charitable contributions come in the form of labor. I volunteer with the local schools and at the center for the arts. I'm not sure if how I contribute will change when my finances improve. It's nice to see my contributions actually doing something and if I send money somewhere, how do I really know it's being put to good use?

I resent anyone telling me how I should be spending my limited resources. IMO volunteering your time is far more noble than throwing money at a problem anyway.

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Friday, February 25, 2011 4:34 AM

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Originally posted by DMI:
Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
You guys really don't think he has any sort of point? I kinda see where he's coming from. Heck I know one local browncoat who agrees and hasn't joined in with any of this campaign because of it.

I think he has about as much of a point as anyone who says, "couldn't you give that to charity, instead?" I think that about fancy cars, but it's still not my place tell people how to spend their money. If I had thousands of dollars to either buy a porche or give to a charity, I'd give it to charity in a second, but I couldn't care less about a car.

I could go around giving every extra cent I earn to charity and live my whole life in poverty, but instead I'd rather have a nice house, a computer and eat well. Does that make me a bad person? I doubt it.

I still give to charity, but I'm not a slave to it and I don't feel guilty every time I spend money, and let's face it, most of what we spend money on isn't necessary. Food, clothing, and shelter are the bare basics and yet here we all are on the internet which takes a lot of things that aren't necessary to our survival. That money could have gone to charity.

I look at it like this: what is having Firefly come back actually worth to me in money? My answer is that Firefly is worth more than anything currently on Television. So I'd be willing to give more than a year's worth of cable bills to get Firefly back. Hell, I'd even say it's worth what I pay for netflix in a year on top of that. So that's the entertainment portion of my budget. Hands off charity.

To me the difference is it's not just buying a fancy car. It would be more like paying to design the car and then buy it as well. It's taking something you might normally do and then finding a way to spend even more money on it.

So, let's say Bill Gates loves his Cadillac, but he wants it to have a different door handle. So, he buys the entire company to make them change the design. Now he can buy the Cadillac with the door handle he likes. That seems like excessive spending.

That's where I think the difference comes into play at least.

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Friday, February 25, 2011 6:31 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

Your money is for the acquisition of things you need and want, just like everyone's money.

Browncoats tend to be a generous lot, shelling out to various charities. We even sent one of our own to the gulf to help in environmental efforts- a spontaneous outpouring of generosity and caring during a national crisis.

If, at the end of the day, Browncoats are prepared to apportion a small percentage of their income towards a piece of entertainment they enjoy, it would be selfish and wrong to tell them they shouldn't do that.

--Anthony

Assured by friends that the signal-to-noise ratio has improved on this forum, I have disabled web filtering.

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Friday, February 25, 2011 7:31 AM

I don't see how you could possibly call that selfish. What's selfish about it?

Wrong in this case is totally subjective and open to debate. To me I don't see it as wrong to state his opinion that there are better causes for that money. Each browncoat can either choose to agree or disagree. Yes, some might take offense, but that's also their choice.

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Friday, February 25, 2011 8:16 AM

Not selfish, as you'd gain nothing from it. Presumptuous, perhaps.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, February 25, 2011 10:55 AM

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.

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Originally posted by Zeek:
Yes, some might take offense, but that's also their choice.

I think we're pretty much in agreement at this point, though I had a professor who would call it "violent agreement." We're just splitting hairs. Presumptuous vs selfish.

However, by what you said above, Zeek, is it permissible for me to get offended when I see someone driving a fancy car because I view that as a waste of money? Shouldn't I mind my own business and let people make whatever choices they see fit as long as they don't impinge upon my own freedom? Therefore, this obviously non-browncoat should shut the hell up and let us do what we want. Eh?

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Friday, February 25, 2011 12:40 PM

WHOZIT

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
I heard he likes to shove Gerbels up his ass....but you didn't hear that from me.

Thanks for proving the MovieLine poster's point about Firefly fans being dumb, at least in your case...

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

The only point he could make is that he likes furry rodents in his ass.

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Friday, February 25, 2011 12:49 PM

Lordy, I hope you don't reproduce, zitboy.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, February 25, 2011 1:00 PM

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Originally posted by DMI:
Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Yes, some might take offense, but that's also their choice.

I think we're pretty much in agreement at this point, though I had a professor who would call it "violent agreement." We're just splitting hairs. Presumptuous vs selfish.

However, by what you said above, Zeek, is it permissible for me to get offended when I see someone driving a fancy car because I view that as a waste of money? Shouldn't I mind my own business and let people make whatever choices they see fit as long as they don't impinge upon my own freedom? Therefore, this obviously non-browncoat should shut the hell up and let us do what we want. Eh?

I think that goes to splitting hairs like you said before. If you're talking about what's rude then yeah maybe he should shut up. If you're talking about freedom of speech then he can say whatever he likes. If he doesn't like what the browncoats are doing then he has every right to speak his mind on his blog.

There's a pretty decent chance that he'll influence somebody to give more to charity. So, if it's a little rude but accomplishes his goal then I can't really blame the guy.

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Saturday, February 26, 2011 2:40 PM

CANTTAKESKY

The logic behind this article is so weak, I wonder if Movieline is deliberately trolling cause they want some of that 68,000 fan traffic.

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Monday, February 28, 2011 3:07 PM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Let the Reavers have him.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2011 7:53 AM

SUASOR

Nah. Even the reavers have standards.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2011 8:48 AM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
The logic behind this article is so weak,

Perhaps, but the whole campaign to buy the show's rights was a bit reality-challenged to begin with.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2011 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by canttakesky:
The logic behind this article is so weak,

Perhaps, but the whole campaign to buy the show's rights was a bit reality-challenged to begin with.

Aren't we Browncoats, as a group, slightly reality-challenged?

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Tuesday, March 1, 2011 10:34 AM

Why would that be?

I don't see how liking a show, makes one disconnected from reality. Thinking a bunch of fans can band together and raise millions to buy TV rights from a network with no interest in selling them... a slightly different scale.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2011 10:56 AM

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Fan, from fanatic (L. fanaticus), a person with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal, as in religion or politics.

Also an orgiastic rite.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2011 11:00 AM

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Why would that be?

I don't see how liking a show, makes one disconnected from reality. Thinking a bunch of fans can band together and raise millions to buy TV rights from a network with no interest in selling them... a slightly different scale.

I'm sure people said the same thing a few years ago when a bunch of fans were trying to buy enough DVDs to convince someone to make a movie out of a TV show cancelled half way through its first season.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2011 11:19 AM