Serenity - Lenore/Lovebot ? by THESOMNAMBULIST

Just wondering how people feel about this aspect of SERENITY. Because really in the show there was nothing to suggest this kind of technology. Yet after the film one has to wonder whether there isn't some aspect of this in the series....?

I mean - Inara? Could she be....?

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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:36 AM

ARTCAT81

I always thought it fit with the 'verse since we spent most of our time on the backwater planets. And we have seen the technology before...

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We know Dobson survived being shot in the face, and got a nifty bionic eye replacement. And then there are the hands of blue who are a fine series of mechanisms. So the technology exists, just probably not something many out in the black can afford.

I do not think Inara is, because she is entirely too human in behavior.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:13 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
I mean - Inara? Could she be....?

If Walt Disney could have president-robots 50 years ago, then Joss Whedon can have sex-robots with fake looking hair in 500 years. And Inara's hair is not teased and hair-sprayed into a helmet like robot Lenore's! She would be offended that you think her hair is fake after she takes so much effort and expense keeping it nice.

The mechanical engineering justification for having one sex-robot in the movie in 2005 is that there are many killer-robots walking around in Serenity Better Days #3 May 2008. I know it is backward causality having something in 2008 used to explain what happened in 2005, but that's the science fiction entertainment business.
www.tfaw.com/Graphic-Novels/Profile/Serenity-Volume-2-Better-Days-and-
Other-Stories-2nd-Edition-HC___384864
Buy the comic to find out what happens next.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:27 AM

TWO - those robots are a little too Phantom Menace for my liking. I rather wish I hadn't seen that.

Well my question was aimed more at how SERENITY, and it's particulars, falls retrospectively within the context of FIREFLY rather than with the future, but I get your drift. 500 years hence seems fine for 'Lovebot' technology but was more intrigued about whether any indicators of such advancement had occured during the run of the show.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:33 AM

Originally posted by artcat81:

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I always thought it fit with the 'verse since we spent most of our time on the backwater planets. And we have seen the technology before...

warning spoilers if you did not read the comics

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We know Dobson survived being shot in the face, and got a nifty bionic eye replacement. And then there are the hands of blue who are a fine series of mechanisms. So the technology exists, just probably not something many out in the black can afford.

I do not think Inara is, because she is entirely too human in behavior.

Hey Artcat81. I guess that is an indicator of such technology. Fair to say...

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I didn't realise the hands of blue were 'mechanisms'

As for Inara it was a stretch on my part for sure - but is there a case to suggest that if such advanced technolgy exists then surely there's equivalent advanced software to mimic human behavior also..?

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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:35 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
...was more intrigued about whether any indicators of such advancement had occured during the run of the show.

In Bushwacked, there was that weird Reaver built bomb that intertwined itself with Serenity. That looked robotic to me. Kaylee didn't get in a spacesuit to cut the wires in the booby trap - the bomb was smart enough to put itself inside the air pressurized part of Serenity.

It is years too late, but I finally figured out the Reavers' strategy: Rescue ships stop at the wreck; a bomb is loaded on each new rescue ship; once the ship has left the wreck behind and the crew believe they're safe, the rescue ship explodes when it lands on a planet. It is the Reavers' idea of a practical joke.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:33 AM

INVADERCHAT

Doesn't Kaylee say that it'll explode if they detach from the other ship? I thought it was just a case of disabling any ship that stopped to help/loot/salvage/whatever and then coming back later to mop them up too, especially if it did actually DISABLE the ship and not just blow it to bits, then they'd have a stationary ship to board and some living crew to murder and...do Reaver stuff to.

EDIT* As to the original point though, no, I don't think there did really seem to be an indicator that something like that was technologically possible in the series though as has been said we spent most of the time seeing what rim worlds had and clearly the core planets are far more advanced.

There's pretty high levels of technology in other ways like the sonic thingie that the Hands of Blue have and the brain scanner in the hospital as well as floating metal islands and the like which could sort of suggest they have advanced in the field of robotics too but otherwise not really.

Though look at some of the work going on in robotics at the moment and that alone points to something like the love-bot being available in five hundred years.

And yes, those robots in the comic rather put me off too.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:25 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by InvaderChat:
Doesn't Kaylee say that it'll explode if they detach from the other ship? I thought it was just a case of disabling any ship that stopped to help/loot/salvage/whatever and then coming back later to mop them up too, especially if it did actually DISABLE the ship and not just blow it to bits, then they'd have a stationary ship to board and some living crew to murder and...do Reaver stuff to. . . .

And yes, those robots in the comic rather put me off too.

Whatever the gizmo is that places a bomb inside Serenity, it is huge. Looks like it has tentacles or roots. I'm staying with my flamboyant theory that it is a robot. There is a screencap of the Reaver booby trap at http://disparue.org/gallery/firefly/04/index.php?page=6 picture firefly04_0589.jpg

WASH What is it?
MAL Booby trap. Reavers sometimes leave 'em behind for the rescue ships. We triggered it when we latched on.
WASH And when we detach --
MAL -- it blows.
WASH Okay -- so we don't detach. We just, I don't know, sit tight until...
ZOE What? Reavers come back?
Kaylee's been studying the image on the vid screen.
KAYLEE Looks like they've jerry-rigged it with a pressure catch. Only thing that'd work with all these spare parts. Could pro'lly bypass that easy, we get to the DC line.
MAL You tell me now, little Kaylee – you really think you can do this?
KAYLEE Sure. Yeah. Think so. 'sides, if I mess up, it's not like you'll be able to yell at me.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:00 PM

RIONAEIRE

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Wait, what? Are you saying that the hands of blue are really robots? Sure maybe some of the more drone functioning ones may be, but are you saying they're all robots?

I don't think Inara is a love bot. But that reminds me of that Next Generation episode where we find out that Data's creator's wife is a android of her, not the original her. That was an interesting episode.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:37 PM

A few interesting examples of modern technology there. The tentacled bomb, the floating islands and the medical unit in Ariel.. Was Ariel one of the better off planets? I can't remember now...

Still I think a synthetic robot/human thingy like Lenore is a different kettle o' fish. I guess there's mechanical technology and then there's a kind of biotech technology (sorry this stuff is outa my scope in terms of jargon) but er, a sort of fleshy robot... Like Bladerunner..

What triggered my question was The Operatives reaction to Lenore when she played back Mr Universe' recording. The Operative looked quite alarmed. As though it was new even to him?

As for Inara. Well I doubt she is either as I'm sure it would have come out by now, but she is almost impossibly beautiful. And then there's those 'medical' check ups she disappears to. Could be it's for an oil change and a clean up of the spark plugs?! There's the fact that Inara and Lenore are both companions, as well as Nandi remarking that Inara still looks the same after all those years, as though she hasn't aged...? Could it be that Inara is a superior model?

Probably not - but y'know it's interesting to speculate....

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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:05 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Wait, what? Are you saying that the hands of blue are really robots? Sure maybe some of the more drone functioning ones may be, but are you saying they're all robots?

I don't think Inara is a love bot. But that reminds me of that Next Generation episode where we find out that Data's creator's wife is a android of her, not the original her. That was an interesting episode.

It is a wonderfully creative idea that the Hands of Blue are robots. But they are not.

As evidence I submit pictures from Serenity: Those Left Behind [2006] www.tfaw.com/Profile/Serenity-TPB%3A-Those-Left-Behind___203471

The Hands of Blue are unfeeling and steely on the outside -- on the inside, they are meaty and very un-robotic. Thanks to Captain Reynolds, we know them for what they are: barbeque.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:57 AM

PENNAUSAMIKE

Agreed that the Hands of Blue guys are not robotic,
They have to wear the Blue Gloves
(which are actually full body suits)
to protect themselves from the effects of their neural bleeder.

I had no problem with Lenore the lovebot because she is only slightly more realistic
than some of the lovedolls being made in Japan, now.
So 500 years in the future?
Yeah, Lenore fits in with the 'verse.

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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:13 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Originally posted by InvaderChat:
And yes, those robots in the comic rather put me off too.

The comics as a whole put me off. I tend to close my eyes and pretend they don't exist.

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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:55 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
The comics as a whole put me off. I tend to close my eyes and pretend they don't exist.

My vote for the worst Serenity comic is Serenity: Float Out [2010]. It had the entertainment value of a memorial service where the decedent's body is not in attendance, only 4 people show up, 3 of whom are complete strangers that look and dress like homeless bums, and the 4th arrives when the memorial is over and she is unrecognizable because she has gained so much weight and steals the champagne! (By the way, that is an accurate summation of the action in that comic.)

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:52 PM

RIONAEIRE

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Oh good, if they were robots it would take away from their scariness and ominousness. They're much more scary as people, cold unfeeling evil people. That's one of the things that makes Firefly special, humans are good enough and bad enough in themselves, there don't need to be aliens to make it scary.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:28 PM

MOOSE

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:

The comics as a whole put me off. I tend to close my eyes and pretend they don't exist.

I am exactly the same way.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:06 AM

Originally posted by RionaEire:

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Oh good, if they were robots it would take away from their scariness and ominousness. They're much more scary as people, cold unfeeling evil people. That's one of the things that makes Firefly special, humans are good enough and bad enough in themselves, there don't need to be aliens to make it scary.

Agreed.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 2:58 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by Moose:
I am exactly the same way.

Could it be that the comics allowed Joss Whedon to tell stories in ways that he should not?

TV puts limits on stories. In comics there are no boundaries of money. A comic like Serenity: Float Out could not be a TV episode because it has too many expensive sets, spaceships, crashes. And too many guest stars while the regular actors sit in their trailers all week because they are not in any scenes. FOX would have demanded it be rewritten so that it was more about familiar people than about all the different spaceships Wash flew.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 3:42 AM

INVADERCHAT

I hope I got this quoting right...

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Originally posted by two:
Whatever the gizmo is that places a bomb inside Serenity, it is huge.

Well I always thought that the bomb was inside the OTHER ship and that the tendrils were just the way it joined on and created a circuit which, if broken, would blow the bomb.

But whatever, if you wanna imagine it as a robot I have no problem with that :P

Good point with your above post too, I even remember Joss saying somewhere that sometimes working within constraints like that improve writing 'cause you have to think of better way to work around. Very reasonable suggestion.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:

The comics as a whole put me off. I tend to close my eyes and pretend they don't exist.

Yeah okay, good call :P
I TRIED to like 'em, after all they were a continuation of the verse in some way but I can't help but view them like a crappy movie adaption of my favorite book or something, they seem so out of touch with the series or even the movie.

And yeah, Somnambulist, Ariel was a core planet with all fancy shmancy stuff, they don't plonk hospitals with brain-scanning equipment on places like Persephone.

You should check out some of the robotic work going on today to get an idea of what would be possible, seriously as mentioned some of the Japanese stuff they have going is insane, and freaky as hell.

You're right about the look The Operative gives the bot though, definitely a 'wtf'. Hmm...

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 4:32 AM

Originally posted by InvaderChat:

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And yeah, Somnambulist, Ariel was a core planet with all fancy shmancy stuff, they don't plonk hospitals with brain-scanning equipment on places like Persephone.

That was my reasoning. So I was inclined to wonder if there wouldn't be some sort of 'bot' on Ariel. I guess what I'm getting at is just how much future technology are we willing to accept in the Firefly verse? The 'Love bot' in SERENITY didn't seem out of place to me, though on reflection there really wasn't anything to support the idea of such things in the show. So I was curious how people felt about it?

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You should check out some of the robotic work going on today to get an idea of what would be possible, seriously as mentioned some of the Japanese stuff they have going is insane, and freaky as hell.

Very true. It's an interesting thing that has sprung up with their culture and some may say it borders on obsessive. It's the preoccupation with making them look human that I find intriguing.

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You're right about the look The Operative gives the bot though, definitely a 'wtf'. Hmm...

Yeah... That's what triggered my intitial thoughts... It's almost as though he isn't aware of such technology? Surely if he knew about robots he'd know they can hold information, so why upon his first visit did his men not destroy Lenore too. She is basically just a computer.....?

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 5:44 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
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You're right about the look The Operative gives the bot though, definitely a 'wtf'. Hmm...
Yeah... That's what triggered my intitial thoughts... It's almost as though he isn't aware of such technology? Surely if he knew about robots he'd know they can hold information, so why upon his first visit did his men not destroy Lenore too. She is basically just a computer.....?

Robot Lenore could be a useful plot device for Serenity 2: Lenore saw and recorded the Operative dishonorably, and unlawfully, kill Mr. Universe. She is an eyewitness to murder!

I suppose all of the Operative's killings could be justified in a court-martial except that one, assuming there are still rules in the future military. River had the wits to know she will need that recording in the next movie. Imagine River threatening the Operative with a severed robot head she stored under her bed. That would be a creepy shock for the audience and the Operative.

Especially if the robot head talked when River attaches a battery.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 7:16 AM

The Hands of Blue being robots is something I've considered. It would explain why they aren't affected by their own brain melting technology, whether it's sonics or psionics. The other option is that it's wave based and therefore directional (and maybe can cancel itself out in a certain pocket, like the person holding the weapon, or maybe be dampened, by a full body suit).

Only problem is, what I've read of the verse suggests there's no true AI and only poor mimickry of human behaviour still. So if the Hands of Blue are robots, it'd have to be remote operated bots. Which is possible, considering the cortex, and actually not a bad idea to conserve agents with a high price tag and not disposable.

As for AI in the verse, technology must have gone some other direction. Like weapons, and trying to create psychic soldiers and population pacifiers.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 7:20 AM

Nah, Lenore's not a companion. The supplemental resources even say that the Guild puts an automatic blackmark on anyone that they find out has a lovebot - guess they don't like competition.

But, Inara could be one, maybe, or a clone, but I think it's most likely she's a regular human, born the same way as the rest of us with belly button and all, especially considering the leaked secret.

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You're right about the look The Operative gives the bot though, definitely a 'wtf'. Hmm...

It's a robot people DO nasty things to. I think the whole of humanity is creeped out by the concept with only a few exceptions. Those poor robots.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 8:45 AM

The Operative new that Lenore was there. She was there when he was questioning Mister Universe and made a deal to contact Mal. He knew what she was. He had established that she was not important. Just a thing. When he came back later, the only reason that he was surprised, was because of the fact that Lenore says 'Mal' when she begins her little blurb.

"Mal. Guy killed me, Mal. He killed me with a sword. How weird is that?"

He would have breezed right past her if she hadn't said anything.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 8:48 AM

Well, that too. I remember him looking surprised when she starts speaking to "Mal" which of course tells him where Mal went for the big confrontation. Not because she was a robot.

But I wouldn't have blamed anyone for going wtf at the lovebot. I know it was meant to help establish Mr. Universe as funny, nerdy, and JUST this side of iffy, but dang, that just ain't right.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 9:09 AM

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Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
Could it be that Inara is a superior model?

Nope.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 9:27 AM

DREAMTROVE

No one would design a bot that whines. Except Harvey Mudd.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 9:39 AM

For her to be a synthetic person we would have to set aside those remarks made by several writers from the show and Joss himself. She is a woman. Firefly is classical storytelling about people from different sides of the tracks. While it is a sci-fi, it is still high noon in space. War veteran/cowboy meets high society/city girl.

Besides, we'd have to consider her on a level completely beyond and outside the Lenore comparison. After all, she's made with tear ducts built in and programmed/self aware to cry alone in a corner of the whore house out of sense of jealous loss in the moment.

She'd have to be above and beyond superior to eat and drink everything she consumed during the series, from hot tea to protein cakes.

And why make a 'love bot-android-construct-what-have-you' filled with blood? So that rough customers or border authorities would be fooled?

A machine or synthetic construct that Simon (a remarkably young, genius, medical doctor) wouldn't have noticed…?

If she were anything but human, there would have been some remark (no matter how convoluted) from River. And probably more than once. After all, she reads Inara's thoughts. They share the limited space of the ship for months on end. River might be a 'little crazy person', but nothing gets by the reader like a person who ain't really a person.

She'd have to be superior to the point of sweeping the legs out from under much of the continuing plots and subplots to get past any of these issues, let alone all of them.

All of this is academic though, since she's a woman.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 9:49 AM

Puppets on strings, dancey dancey dance.

Writers aren't too old to play with dolls. Joss likes his dolls brooding, angsty, and whining.

Then he lights them on fire.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:01 PM

Originally posted by yellowjacket:

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For her to be a synthetic person we would have to set aside those remarks made by several writers from the show and Joss himself. She is a woman. Firefly is classical storytelling about people from different sides of the tracks. While it is a sci-fi, it is still high noon in space. War veteran/cowboy meets high society/city girl.

Besides, we'd have to consider her on a level completely beyond and outside the Lenore comparison. After all, she's made with tear ducts built in and programmed/self aware to cry alone in a corner of the whore house out of sense of jealous loss in the moment.

She'd have to be above and beyond superior to eat and drink everything she consumed during the series, from hot tea to protein cakes.

And why make a 'love bot-android-construct-what-have-you' filled with blood? So that rough customers or border authorities would be fooled?

A machine or synthetic construct that Simon (a remarkably young, genius, medical doctor) wouldn't have noticed…?

If she were anything but human, there would have been some remark (no matter how convoluted) from River. And probably more than once. After all, she reads Inara's thoughts. They share the limited space of the ship for months on end. River might be a 'little crazy person', but nothing gets by the reader like a person who ain't really a person.

She'd have to be superior to the point of sweeping the legs out from under much of the continuing plots and subplots to get past any of these issues, let alone all of them.

All of this is academic though, since she's a woman.

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A machine or synthetic construct that Simon (a remarkably young, genius, medical doctor) wouldn't have noticed…?

Now you mention it. Did Simon ever examine Inara? I don't think he did, and I distinctly remember Inara refusing to allow him to examin her in 'Our Mrs Reynolds'. Thereafter the opportunity never arose again.. Did it?

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:03 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
No one would design a bot that whines. Except Harvey Mudd.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

Toy makers design plastic baby's to wet themselves?!

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:05 PM

Originally posted by yellowjacket:

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The Operative new that Lenore was there. She was there when he was questioning Mister Universe and made a deal to contact Mal. He knew what she was. He had established that she was not important. Just a thing. When he came back later, the only reason that he was surprised, was because of the fact that Lenore says 'Mal' when she begins her little blurb.

"Mal. Guy killed me, Mal. He killed me with a sword. How weird is that?"

He would have breezed right past her if she hadn't said anything.

Yeah. I think you're absolutely right Yellowjacket, and it makes far more sense. But she would be a thing with a hard drive - it's curious how he'd just ignore her.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:13 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
But she would be a thing with a hard drive - it's curious how he'd just ignore her.

Why? The record of his and his troops' activities were recorded all over. There were feeds from every place that they killed someone that Mal knew. He admitted to Mal that he killed women and children over a live feed. He had a small fleet of fully armed Alliance vessels at his disposal. Not unmarked vessels, but vessels flying the Alliance emblem in full view. Wreckage of one of them was left at Haven where Shepherd shot it down. He killed several people in plain view of witnesses and recording devices across the Verse in an effort to hunt down River and brought armed and armored troops to the Companion House.

One hard drive in a love bot. Inconsequential by comparison.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:23 PM

Agreed, especially considering the sheer volume of information on the Cortex, the likely ability of the Alliance to cover up any Operative activity, the lack of credibility from an illegal lovebot and anyone that might own or operate one... He doesn't have much to worry about.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:27 PM

Add to this the fact that a non-person is difficult to try in court. He doesn't have a name, and after the events in Serenity, even the fish probably won't find the Operative.

Government spooks of that sort don't have public trials.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:43 PM

Originally posted by yellowjacket:

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Why? The record of his and his troops' activities were recorded all over. There were feeds from every place that they killed someone that Mal knew. He admitted to Mal that he killed women and children over a live feed. He had a small fleet of fully armed Alliance vessels at his disposal. Not unmarked vessels, but vessels flying the Alliance emblem in full view. Wreckage of one of them was left at Haven where Shepherd shot it down. He killed several people in plain view of witnesses and recording devices across the Verse in an effort to hunt down River and brought armed and armored troops to the Companion House.

One hard drive in a love bot. Inconsequential by comparison.

Well I'm considering it more within the context of that scene. Everything else is destoryed but a robot/lovebot - presumably one would think with the ability to collect data especially one belonging to a character like Mr Universe - is overlooked?...

...and clearly judging by the events that were to transpire later a major oversight on the part of the Operative.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:45 PM

Originally posted by Bytemite:

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Agreed, especially considering the sheer volume of information on the Cortex, the likely ability of the Alliance to cover up any Operative activity, the lack of credibility from an illegal lovebot and anyone that might own or operate one... He doesn't have much to worry about.

As it turned out though... He did.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:53 PM

Then it was an oversight of the soldiers, for the order was given to "Destroy it all" as the Operative left the room. The soldiers themselves may have thought her too unimportant.

There is also the entire armada still parked in orbit. Once Serenity was captured, they had all the time in the world to do target practice on the home of the late Mister Universe.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:56 PM

DREAMTROVE

Replicants in two concurrent threads.

Inara is not a robot for a very simple reason: No billionaire prince would pay to rent her services, or offer to marry her, they'd just buy their own.

Also, no show has the guts to do this.

ETA: Except LEXX, and probably some Animes.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Thursday, September 1, 2011 7:20 PM