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Imponderables- Stylish Comeback

POSTED BY: MSA
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Monday, February 27, 2012 8:14 AM

MSA


OK folks let's not lose this thread...


Old thread here
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=50328


Ponder- what is the best thing, for you, about Fireflyfans.net?

For me it was meeting not only some of the best friends I've ever had ( and getting a chance to spend time with them at Dragon Con) but meeting my husband was the best part of here.
If it hadn't been for this place I would never have met my husband. We lived in different states and had very different lives with no chance of them intersecting.. and then we made friends here, met, fell in love, and now have a great life and a beautiful son:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.


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Monday, February 27, 2012 9:18 AM

ZEEK


I just like the community. It seems like a vast majority of browncoats are very warm and friendly people. I haven't ever been a part of a fan community that is as respectful and welcoming as the browncoats are.

Second to that is because of fff.net I found out about the prescreenings in time to get in on the one in Austin. Nathan and Ron showed up. That was such an awesome event.

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Monday, February 27, 2012 11:11 AM

RIONAEIRE

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I'm so glad we have a new thread, that old one was too long.

My favorite thing about fff.net is getting to talk to fun nice people. Byte got me coming here a year ago and I've thoroughly enjoyed myself. Its also fun to learn from each other about things too, sure RWED is a place where most of us aren't going to drastically change our minds, but we can still learn from each other and I will admit that my opinions on some things have been better informed by being there, and yes, there has been a little bit of change.

In life I care about people, relationships of all sorts are what makes life worth living.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:35 AM

MSA


I think browncoats definitely win as best fandom ever!



To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:25 AM

ZEEK


So, here's a ponder for ya. What do you think of people who have best friends turn into arch nemesisses? I have a couple friends who have each done this twice. It seems really strange to me. They go from being the bestest of friends to hating each other and of course blaming the other person for some horrible thing they did.

Would you be worried about being their friend? What would you think about their romantic relationships? Personally I'd be worried if I were in a relationship with someone like that. I've seen bitter divorces before. I wouldn't want to get caught up in one.

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Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:20 AM

MSA


I'd agree Zeek. It's not a concern if they have a falling out with one friend. That happens. But falling out with multiple friends to the point of hatred... that says you have problems with people.


To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:09 PM

RIONAEIRE

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Its odd in real life, I mean we've all seen it in books and stuff, but when real people do it it seems weird. But maybe it shouldn't because love is a strong emotion and so is hate, so one could be swopped for the other because they are both intense.

The slightly creepy thing about it is that there's a piece of me that can see myself doing that if the conditions were right. I love very intensely, if someone has the title of best friend from me it means I love them very much and with great intensity, so maybe that intensity could be shifted. I don't know about hate though, I've never really hated anyone, but I've dispised a couple. Its something I try not to do though, dispise, but the older I get the more potential for hate I see in myself and it is sort of scary.

A good historical example. Temujin (Genghis Khan) had a blood brother Jamuqa, the two of them loved each other intensely, swearing bloodbrotherhood three times in their young adult lives, this is a big committment because it holds until one of you dies. Then fortunes turned, they both became ambitious, they both sought to widen their sphere of control and influence and in this process became rivals and even enemies, fighting in battles against each other. In the end Jamuqa's men betrayed him to the future Khan, a crime which Temujin punished promptly because no one likes a betrayer, no matter whose side they are on. Then Temujin took Jamuqa and they talked long, Temujin said they could start over (a very unGenghis like thing to offer), that their love for each other could be stronger than any of the trouble they'd had with each other. Jamuqa declined and asked to be killed in the honorable way of the time, because he would always be a thorn in his anda's side, he would always be the thing holding Temujin back from his destiny of Great Khan.

So that's the best story I know of best friends becoming enemies. Can you tell I have crushes on both of them?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:25 PM

LOCUSTHORDE


I haven't been on FFF.net for very long... but i'd have to say that it's a place that i can go to to talk about firefly

EDIT: And have people totally understand what i'm talking about... even more-so than i do

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 7:06 AM

MSA


Locust- You're back!!!! What have you been doing?
HUGS

Ooh nice historical example Riona:)

Mostly people are complicated, but I'd steer clear of anyone who can stay friends with people

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 9:42 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
I'd steer clear of anyone who can stay friends with people



Agreed. People should only stay friends with animals :-p

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 11:05 AM

RIONAEIRE

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She must have misspoke?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 1:32 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
She must have misspoke?



Yeah probably. That doesn't mean it isn't funny though.

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 3:40 PM

PENGUIN


I'm glad I'm not people...









King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Friday, March 2, 2012 10:56 AM

MSA


LOL... hey animals are cute and , for the most part, easier to get along with.
However...

Penguin... you're an actor???


'cause you know actors are the opposite of people

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, March 2, 2012 1:47 PM

PENGUIN


I did a little Shakespeare in college...





King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Monday, March 5, 2012 7:37 AM

MSA


OF course you did... I can see it now


Now is the winter of our penguin content... made glorious tummy by the piles of fish


Ponder- What's your favorite Shakespeare play and why?

Mine's As you Like it
" The sweetest nut has sourest rind... and such a nut is Roseline"
Cracks me up every time


To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, March 5, 2012 4:23 PM

RIONAEIRE

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I'm not a big Shakespeare fan but I definitely see the value in his plays and think its important for kids to study them at school etc. My favorite would have to be Hamlet, its dark and moody and intense and centers around big themes like revenge. Plus it has a touched charactor by the end which makes it the most interesting to me. I'm firmly in the "Ophelia didn't drown herself it was an accident, she wasn't looked after properly, don't those rutters know anything?" camp. I like how nearly everyone is dead at the end, now that's a play, the only person I really regret seeing die is Ophelia, that was totally preventable.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:09 AM

MSA


I blame Hamlet for her death.. if he really cared for her he should have told her what was going on. If he'd told her, she wouldn't have killed herself.

That and poor Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.. they never did anything wrong and end up executed for trying to be a good friend.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:18 PM

ZEEK


Thanks for the Hamlet spoilers. Jeez! :-p

I'm a toss up between McBeth and Romeo and Juliet. I just like the tragic end to Romeo and Juliet. Two idiots who end up killing themselves. lol You don't get love stories like that these days.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:50 PM

RIONAEIRE

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MSA, clearly we'll have to agree to disagree about the intentionality of Ophelia drowning.

Zeke, sorry for the spoilers. :) The thing I like about MacBeth is how its all about power, how it corrupts, a theme that resinates in any society and in any time. My good friend's daughter is Lady MacBeth in their class play tomorrow night so I'm really excited about going to see her perform. Unfortunately the play is abridged, but all the kids in her class are in it, so they have to shorten it since not all children are into acting or good at it. Its the fifth grade, which is when I first studied Shakespeare at school, so its neat to see our Jasmine doing it too.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, March 7, 2012 5:33 AM

ZEEK


I felt like Lady MacBeth was pretty much the big villain of the story. She pushes MacBeth and then the power gets to him. That and the Gargoyles cartoon did all sorts of tie ins to MacBeth. That cartoon was awesome.

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Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:05 AM

MSA


I love Macbeth:)
Best speech ever
Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow creeps in this petty pace from day to day to the last syllable of recorded time. All our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death. Out, out brief candle. Life is but a walking shadow, a poor player who struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is hear no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing.

Also the only Shakespeare quote to have 2 bestselling book titles taken from it.
Walking Shadow by Robert B Parker
and Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, March 8, 2012 6:51 AM

MSA


BUMP

I say verily


To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, March 9, 2012 1:53 AM

PENGUIN





or not










King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Friday, March 9, 2012 6:25 AM

MSA


Is that the question???
LOL

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, March 12, 2012 8:30 AM

MSA


Ok folks... ponder
Is daylights savings still needed?
I personally think we should just let it go


To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, March 12, 2012 9:32 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
Ok folks... ponder
Is daylights savings still needed?
I personally think we should just let it go



We didn't have it in Indiana where I went to college. If I didn't go back to Illinois on break it would have been fine. It was a constant annoyance to try to remember if I was on the same time or an hour off depending on the time of year.

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Monday, March 12, 2012 9:00 PM

RIONAEIRE

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I'm really happy that we're back to being an hour ahead, it stays light later!!!!!

BTW my Jasmine did great in MacBeth on Wed. night, she did all her lines well and had lots of fun. She's the best ten year old Lady MacBeth I've seen. My little brother will be in fifth grade next year so that means he'll get to do MacBeth soon too! I think he'll get a non speaking part though because he hates acting.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:03 AM

ZEEK


I'm a bad person. The idiot guy on my team has a computer he uses to do work on. The computer has VNC which is a remote viewing/control program. I'm sitting here just watching him work. It's so painfully hilarious. He's the slowest software engineer I've ever seen. He was looking for a numbered file that is sorted alphanumerically. He kept scrolling up and down and not finding the file for a good 5 minutes. It was ridiculous. We all gathered around the screen laughing. So many times we wanted to just move the mouse for him and select the file. At least I'm not the only bad person in the office.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:14 PM

GREENKA61


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
Ok folks... ponder
Is daylights savings still needed?
I personally think we should just let it go



I LOVE daylight savings time - just not the first week when I'm getting used to it again.

I truly hate the wintertime - it's dark when I drive to work in the morning and dark when I drive home from it. It's so depressing.

At least now I have an extra hour of light to do things after work. Personally - I wouldn't change back to standard time in November at all.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:21 PM

RIONAEIRE

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I've never heard of that program Zeke, so can you watch his screen or him. I bet he'd be upset if he knew.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:29 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
I've never heard of that program Zeke, so can you watch his screen or him. I bet he'd be upset if he knew.



It's not just watching the screen it allows you to take control of the mouse and keyboard as well. Technically he's using the program as well. We have it setup so multiple people can connect at the same time. There are different programs that do this but a simple one is realVNC http://www.realvnc.com/

Though I'm sure you're right that he'd be upset if he knew. It doesn't hurt that the managers in our area are both on vacation right now. So, it's not like we're going to get caught really.

Sadly one of the managers was just online this morning trying to catch one of his employees to tell him not to waste time working with the guy on my team. So, he asked me to pass along the message. How sad is that? A manager spends time on his vacation trying to keep this guy from distracting his employees. Lame.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:34 AM

MSA


We use the remote view/control program in school as well. During computer lab time it lets me see if all my students are working on the project, stop them if they go to sites they shouldn't, make highlighted notes or corrections on their papers... I quite like it.


ok that is truly sad Zeek... it'd suck not to be able to enjoy your vacation for fear when you got back everything would be late or messed up because of one employee




To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, March 15, 2012 5:42 AM

MSA


BUMP

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, March 16, 2012 6:15 AM

MSA


Super bump

and seriously did the Ides of March end tragically for one or more of you???

Helloooooo???

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, March 16, 2012 12:57 PM

RIONAEIRE

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I had a really good Ides of March, my new nephew went home from the hospital and I had a performance that went really well and had yummy food.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:47 PM

NAVYSEILS


I still live.
I've been a bad FFF member. I haven't really checked in on this site at all for ages. By the look of things I'm not the only one who hasn't been checking in regularly.

As for the latest ponderable, I think daylight savings time is probably still useful. As someone who regularly interacts with his friends in other timezones though, I sometimes think it would be nice if the whole world was just in one timezone. Sure, certain areas will spend the majority of their "day" in darkness and their "night" will be lit. But eventually that will cycle it's way around. It can be something to look forward to for future generations.


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Monday, March 19, 2012 8:34 AM

MSA


I love that idea Navy

Hey Alaska seems to do fine with nothing but odd darkness at random hours... I'm sure the rest of us could do that as well.

Would make Skype toast parties easier!!

HUGS

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, March 19, 2012 10:45 AM

RIONAEIRE

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I for one am really glad I _don't live in Alaska.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, March 19, 2012 12:53 PM

ZEROKIRYU


*Sneaks in*

I'd love to live in Alaska. Give me somewhere cold and you've got a happy Zero. It's almost 80 degrees here right now, booo...

Side note: I actually remembered my password!

*Sneaks out*

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Monday, March 19, 2012 4:57 PM

ROXYFREEFALL

Woman, you are completely off your nut.


Well, I'm here.

>.>
<.<

...what do we do here again?



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DFTBA!

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Monday, March 19, 2012 5:26 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


THERE IS A GOD!!

I remembered my password! It only took about 3 dozen times. Lets hope I remember what I did last, the joy of finally logging in may have gotten me whimsical in the brain pan.


So what? Time zones? Darkness? Alaska? Is that what we are discussing?

Can I just make everyone be awake for when I want to talk to them and sleep when I want to? I like when everything revolves around what I want better than having to be like Alaska

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Monday, March 19, 2012 5:41 PM

ROXYFREEFALL

Woman, you are completely off your nut.


Aaaaand, now I remember why I stopped coming here... annoying-ass-people.

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Monday, March 19, 2012 6:12 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


Well, I edited this post a few times. But I guess I will leave it as is now. I was just being a smart ass and in a silly mood. I guess it didn't come across that way. I'm sorry.

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Monday, March 19, 2012 6:57 PM

RIONAEIRE

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Well for what its worth I thought you were just being silly.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:08 AM

ROXYFREEFALL

Woman, you are completely off your nut.


Guess I missed it. Fell asleep. Man, I dunno what's up with me lately. I'm always exhausted!

Oh! And to answer the first question from MsA; FFF.net was kinda the doorway to meeting some of my very best friends. So this place means a lot to me, as does Firefly as a fandom. Still wear my Serenity necklace regularly to remind me how much I love being a Browncoat.

Ok, so today I have the day off and I'm gonna get some things done. I'm a lil angry, I've been waiting for a good real Spring... and it's gonna be 80 for the next 3 friggin' days. BAH! I hate the heat!!! Just makes doing things all... sweaty. :/ And not the good kind of sweaty! Boooooooo!

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:36 AM

MSA


YAY
Zero, Navy, Roxy, and Avery!!!!
I has a happy!!!!

I know we don't much meet up here, but this place is how I met my dearest friends...and my wonderful husband.
So this place is very dear to my heart and I try to keep this thread going.... kinda like a little hearth



To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:02 PM

NAVYSEILS


Yeah, if we go back to talking about what FFF.net is to me then I'd only echo what has been said already. My first time ever meeting some weirdos from the internet turned out great thanks to the weirdos of this very website.

It's been many years now, and I might forget to check back in on the site as often as I did in the past, but I still speak to many of the peoples.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:18 AM

MSA


You do say nice things when you speak of us.... don't you??

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:41 AM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


Heh, look who is being a rebel...

I think my life would be drastically different without this place. The majorty of people I know now are because of this very website. You guys make up for half my true friends.

Meeting you guys in real life is always the highlight of my year too. I can't wait for D*C!!!

Thank you Haken and Joss for bringing us all together!


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