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Thursday, September 2, 2004 4:46 PM

Greetings all brown coats. i just was wondering if anyone has heard of any scifi writers putting pen to paper to write stories for our wonderful crew. Like the star trek and star wars universe, they have wonderful stories on paper to continue the adventure, I think they would sell (im a bit biased) What do all of you think?

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Thursday, September 2, 2004 4:55 PM

SARDONICA

I would LOVE to read Firefly novels--the more the better.

I'd love to write 'em too, and have asked my agent to inquire as to the prospects of such a thing.

I'd be willing to bet that there will, at the very least, be a novelization of the Serenity movie timed with its release. I'd be curious to see who pens it.

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Thursday, September 2, 2004 8:04 PM

JHARROD

I was thinking about that just yesterday when I was in the bookstore looking for something new to read. Looked at all the Star Wars and Star Trek books...(lame) and thought to myself, damn, they need to get some writers doing some Firefly. I would definately read them, be even better if they made some Firefly comics though.

"They tell ya to never hit a man with a closed fist, but it is on occassion hilarious"

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Thursday, September 2, 2004 8:43 PM

SARDONICA

I believe that there is a Firefly comic in the works. Can't wait!

By the way (shameless self-promotion) you can read MY comic "The continuing Adventures of Fat Man and Little Boy..." in Plastic Farm issue #9, in comic shops everywhere March, 2005...!

Seriously, I hope that Firefly gets to spin off into all sorts of great novels, comics, games, toys, etc...

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Friday, September 3, 2004 1:56 AM

KEVIN

Yes a comic is in the works(most likely with dark horse) As far as novels other than a movie novel,Joss was asked that(I believe at wizard chicago con)and he said since he didn't like most of the buffy/angel novels he may hold off on the books because these characters are still new and he has a certain story to be told(something along those lines)kind of how lucas wont let certain stories be told in the sw novels,but hey a comic written by joss or other series writers on a monthly basis sounds great.....for now.
God,i'm gonna be broke after the movie comes out.

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Friday, September 3, 2004 6:02 AM

TDTMF

novels would be great if they were written by joss...or maybe peter david. i liked his star trek books. his wit seems similar to joss'.

i tried to kep up with the star wars and star trek books, but gave up when they started cranking them out as such a rate that the quality and continuity suffered.

td

mal to jayne: well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle

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Friday, September 3, 2004 7:18 AM

GINOBIFFARONI

I have seen some fine fanfics posted here...

I would buy a collection of Firefly shortstories written by the fans, wouldn't that be a cool idea ?

" If I going to get killed for a word....
Then my word is Poon-Tang "

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Friday, September 3, 2004 9:12 AM

HELL'S KITTEN

Quote:
Originally posted by tdtmf:
novels would be great if they were written by joss...or maybe peter david.

I truly, with all my heart and soul, hope to your god that Peter David never goes anywhere near anything to do with Firefly. Not that I don't like Peter David, but.... Of course, I wouldn't like any writer who wouldn't be on Joss' leash, subservient to Joss' will. I fear the worst for Firefly and all the characters if Joss were to ever lose control.

Yes, it was at Wizard World Chicago where someone asked Joss about Firefly novels. I don't recall him exactly saying that he didn't like the Buffy / Angel novels. What he did say was that he didn't like the fact that he had no control over what was written. And, once you lose control, you have no idea what was or wasn't done in any of the stories, which can confound the continuity some.

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Friday, September 3, 2004 11:13 AM

RIVERGIRL

well I did hear today at World Con that there will a novelization of SERENTIY--heopefully out sometime in March

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

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Friday, September 3, 2004 12:46 PM

GOJIRO

Quote:
Originally posted by rivergirl:
well I did hear today at World Con that there will a novelization of SERENTIY--heopefully out sometime in March

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

Who's writing it? Joss?

gojiro

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Friday, September 3, 2004 3:20 PM

RIVERGIRL

Quote:
Originally posted by gojiro:
Quote:
Originally posted by rivergirl:
well I did hear today at World Con that there will a novelization of SERENTIY--heopefully out sometime in March

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

Who's writing it? Joss?

all i know is it was NOT Joss

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

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Saturday, September 4, 2004 2:04 AM

ROBYN12

YES! Novels! Lots! Will buy, will read! great idea!HURRY UP!

Robyn

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Saturday, September 4, 2004 10:45 AM

CYBERSNARK

Well, Peter David has proved that he can write to others' outlines, like all his Babylon 5 novels "based on an outline by J. Michael Straczynski."

And yes, any Firefly novels would be bought by me immediately.

Assuming they come to Canada, of course, 'cause I've had that happen.

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Saturday, September 4, 2004 8:47 PM

LINDLEY

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Looked at all the Star Wars and Star Trek books...(lame)

Some of them are lame, yes, but some of them are great. That goes for both Wars and Trek, by the way.

As with anything in sufficient quantity, the results end up all over the spectrum. I'd put DS9: A Stitch in Time up against any other media tie-in you'd care to name, and I'd bet it would compare favorably. Heck, it'd do OK against non-tie-in works as well. Similar deal with some of the better Star Wars stuff......none of it would really work well standalone, but in context, some of it is absolutely phenomenal.

That said, I'd gobble up Firefly or Serenity novels like there was no tomorrow, if they were written.

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Saturday, September 4, 2004 9:34 PM

MAKEROFPATHS

Quote:
Originally posted by gojiro:

Who's writing it? Joss?

Nope. Radegund, posting on the original official board, reported from the DragonCon in Atlanta:

"The one new piece of news that came out is that there will be a novelization of the movie and it will be written by Keith DeCandido. "

I've never heard of him.

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Sunday, September 5, 2004 5:35 AM

GOJIRO

Quote:
Originally posted by makerofpaths:
Quote:
Originally posted by gojiro:

Who's writing it? Joss?

Nope. Radegund, posting on the original official board, reported from the DragonCon in Atlanta:

"The one new piece of news that came out is that there will be a novelization of the movie and it will be written by Keith DeCandido. "

I've never heard of him.

If you google him, you can find his webpage. He wrote some Buffy novelizations, some Star Trek, some Farscape. I guess if Joss liked him enough after seeing his Buffy work to hire him for Serenity, he must have some talent.

gojiro

NOTE: Inflammatory bad-day-at-work post santitized for your health. Apologies to all who were previously exposed.

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Sunday, September 5, 2004 5:53 AM

SEVEREN

I think it's a great idea. I would certainly be interested, but I think the stories should be approved by Joss for continuities' sake.

From the department of rendundancy department.

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Sunday, September 5, 2004 10:46 AM

MALDISCONTENT

I would definitely read Firefly novels, I hope Joss OK's that. He should absolutely have some kind of control over them, if he's not writing them.

Mal-bad...in Latin.

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Sunday, September 5, 2004 10:48 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Yes, it was at Wizard World Chicago where someone asked Joss about Firefly novels. I don't recall him exactly saying that he didn't like the Buffy / Angel novels. What he did say was that he didn't like the fact that he had no control over what was written. And, once you lose control, you have no idea what was or wasn't done in any of the stories, which can confound the continuity some.

That's exactly the problem JMS had with the original B5 novels (but if you will allow John Vornholt to play in your backyard, you can expect him to leave some

to clean up.

With the 3 trilogies, he provided the outlines, so the novels all can be considered largely canon and added to the overall story arcs.

"I threw up on your bed"

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Monday, September 6, 2004 3:31 AM

SUPERMANSEIFERALMASY

I would rather see a Firefly comic, as poor writing could render a novelization rubbish.

Also, WHEN DID JOSS SAY HE DIDN'T LIKE ANGEL/BUFFY NOVELIZATIONS?! Has he read Monolith by John Pasarella and Cursed by Mel Odom?!

In an unrelated matter, all Buffy comics suck. Fray was good though, since Joss wrote it.

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Monday, September 6, 2004 1:15 PM

ADDERBLACK

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Originally posted by gojiro:
If you google him, you can find his webpage. He wrote some Buffy novelizations, some Star Trek dreck, some Farscape, a LOT of self-published stuff. But if Joss liked him enough after seeing his Buffy work to hire him for Serenity, maybe he doesn't totally suck.

Actually, Mr. DeCandido has never written any "self-published stuff". You must not have been reading his website very closely if you really think that. He's written a lot of Star Trek novels, and they're not "dreck" at all. In fact, I think he's the best Trek novelist after Peter David. I don't think it's very nice to call his books "dreck" if you haven't read them, and you couldn't have read them if you had to Google him.

He also wrote House of cards which was the best of the three Farscape novels by a lot, and three Farscape short stories too. He did an Andromeda novel that I haven't read because I don't like the show and it was a hardcover. He also wrote one of the Xander years books for Buffy, and wrote the novels of both Resident Evil movies.

He just put out an original book called Dragon Precinct, but I haven't read it yet. I hope he is writing the Serenity novelization.

keep your head,

adderblack

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Monday, September 6, 2004 3:23 PM

RIVERGIRL

I hope he is writing the Serenity novelization.

He is --it was announced so at a WORLD CON Firefly panel

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

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Tuesday, September 7, 2004 3:59 AM

GOJIRO

See? This is why I shouldn't post when I'm in a bad mood. I wasn't having my best day ever, and I took it out on Mr. DeCandido.

My sincere apologies to him, and to Adderblack and other DeCandido fans. As AB points out, I haven't read any of his stuff, so I am not one to judge.

Next time I have a bad day at work, I'll try to just lurk.

gojiro

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Tuesday, September 7, 2004 5:46 AM

CYBERSNARK

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Originally posted by adderblack:
He did an Andromeda novel that I haven't read because I don't like the show and it was a hardcover.

Destruction of Illusions is out in softcover as of a while ago, and the show sucking is actually the best reason to check that book out --it's Andromeda as it could've been. Best part: since it's a prequel (about how Beka's crew met), there's no Dylan in sight.

And the second book (All The Dark Places, by Ethlie Ann Vare, one of the brilliant writers Sorbo canned) is equally stunning, and equally Beka-centric (sensing a pattern here?

).

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Tuesday, September 7, 2004 11:42 AM

LINDLEY

For anyone interested in asking Mr. DeCandido directly about this, he hangs out at TrekBBS. You can usually find him in the Trek Lit forum under the name KRAD.

He probably won't give you too many details, though. He's like that.

I think KRAD is one of the best of the current batch of Trek writers, although I haven't read his non-Trek stuff yet. He's the sole author of the new Star Trek: IKS Gorkon series, which is appropriate, since he writes Klingons very well.

I have full confidence in his ability to do justice to the Serenity novelization.

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Tuesday, September 7, 2004 11:49 AM

STANDING8

no one better f' with the continuity. i HATE it when that happens. look at all the star wars bs out there.

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a love supreme dreaming...

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Tuesday, September 7, 2004 12:19 PM

LINDLEY

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no one better f' with the continuity. i HATE it when that happens. look at all the star wars bs out there.

Star Wars continuity was remarkably airtight, considering there were 100+ novels composing it, before the prequels came along.

Now there are a few breaches and minor contradictions, most of which can be laid at George Lucas' feet. However, for the most part, the discrepancies can and have been explained away sufficiently.

In any case, I doubt that'll be a problem for Firefly/Serenity. We're talking about a novelization, after all.

And if original novels do come down the pike later on......well, I guess we'll see. Somehow I don't think Joss is the type to bulldoze over one of the few outlets available to tell stories with this crew. After all, he doesn't have a weekly TV series in which to do that anymore.

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Friday, September 17, 2004 1:58 PM

KRAD

Quote:
Nope. Radegund, posting on the original official board, reported from the DragonCon in Atlanta:

"The one new piece of news that came out is that there will be a novelization of the movie and it will be written by Keith DeCandido. "

Sorry to be late coming in, but -- the announcement at WorldCon and subsequent mention at Dragon*Con notwithstanding -- this wasn't official until today.

The final paperwork still needs to be processed and signed, but this is fairly close to a done deal.

First of all, thanks to Adderblack, Cybersnark, and Lindley for rising to my defense, and Gojiro? Apology happily accepted. Hey, if you've never heard of me, you've never heard of me.

I am very excited to be doing this. I've been a fan of Joss Whedon's work since I first saw Buffy the Vampire Slayer in theatres. It's also a thrill to be working on a Whedon property again, having previously done The Xander Years Volume 1 and helped out on the first edition of The Watchers Guide.

Keith R.A. DeCandido
keith@decandido.net
DeCandido.net | AlbeShiloh.com
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Friday, September 17, 2004 2:28 PM

SHINY

Thanks for dropping in, KRAD! Good luck with the novelization -- I for one will certainly pick it up as soon as it is released (I assume the plan is to have it in bookstores as soon as the movie is released?)

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Friday, September 17, 2004 2:33 PM

KRAD

The plan is to release the book in April 2005, 'round the same time as the movie, yes.

Keith R.A. DeCandido
keith@decandido.net
DeCandido.net | AlbeShiloh.com
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Friday, September 17, 2004 8:28 PM

GWENHARKER

If you look at the beginings of the Buffy/Angel novels (more into the hardbacked novels, not the nice, 300 page episode sized ones), you'll notice the majority of the ones approved by Joss (it will say so in the thanks section where they say thanks for the help during the writing) support the Buffy/Angel relationship? I always found that interesting, and comforting as well.

What would really be cool is a novel telling us about the six months between OiS and the BDM. That would be pretty cool.

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Saturday, September 18, 2004 9:13 AM

CYBERSNARK

Shiny; another celebrity drops by our humble forums!

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Sunday, September 19, 2004 6:37 AM

PLUTOMOMENT

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Originally posted by GwenHarker:
What would really be cool is a novel telling us about the six months between OiS and the BDM. That would be pretty cool.

At dragon con someone on the Serenity Now panel (not a star) said that there was a possibility of short animations to fill in the space between the show and movie. They moved on to another topic and my boyfriend asked them to go back to the animation thing since it was the first most of us had heard of it and they said it would be like animatrix or the short done for The Chronicles Of Riddick (I think was the movie they mentioned). Somone please correct me if I got it wrong and you were there and/or know the whole of it.

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Sunday, September 19, 2004 5:22 PM

KERNELM

^ There are unconfirmed reports based on what one of the Big Damn Extras (Jeremy aka DVDGuy, who runs fireflymovie.com) heard on the set.

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Monday, September 20, 2004 4:04 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Quote:
Originally posted by KRAD:
Sorry to be late coming in, but -- the announcement at WorldCon and subsequent mention at Dragon*Con notwithstanding -- this wasn't official until today.

The final paperwork still needs to be processed and signed, but this is fairly close to a done deal.

First of all, thanks to Adderblack, Cybersnark, and Lindley for rising to my defense, and Gojiro? Apology happily accepted. Hey, if you've never heard of me, you've never heard of me.

I am very excited to be doing this. I've been a fan of Joss Whedon's work since I first saw Buffy the Vampire Slayer in theatres. It's also a thrill to be working on a Whedon property again, having previously done The Xander Years Volume 1 and helped out on the first edition of The Watchers Guide.

The plan is to release the book in April 2005, 'round the same time as the movie, yes.

Keith R.A. DeCandido
keith@decandido.net
DeCandido.net | AlbeShiloh.com
www.livejournal.com/~kradical

First off, welcome to the site Mr DeCandido (or should we call you KRAD or Keith?). It is really great of you to come here and give us the straight scoop.

I must say it is comforting to hear that you are a fan of Joss and his work. I think that will help lay to rest the fears of some of us Browncoats.

Did you ever have the opportunity to see Firefly on television? Have you checked out the series on DVD yet? Any feelings on the show or the characters?

I must admit that I have not read any of your books, though I have heard of you and seen the books at the store. I will make a point to pick up the BtVS novels and check them out though.

I think I can safely say that all Browncoats are waiting w/ bated breath for your novelization. Hopefully it will lead to a line of novels for Firefly/Serenity.

Thanks for stopping by. Hope to see you post again soon.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Monday, September 20, 2004 4:19 AM

SNIPER

Should be interesting. Can't wait to read it, no matter who writes it.

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Monday, September 20, 2004 7:27 AM

KRAD

Quote:
First off, welcome to the site Mr DeCandido (or should we call you KRAD or Keith?). It is really great of you to come here and give us the straight scoop.

No need to be formal. First name or initials are both fine. (I'd prefer Keith, but I've gotten accustomed to being called KRAD, particularly after I sold an Andromeda novel; in Drom fandom, "Keith" is Keith Hamilton Cobb, so I had to be KRAD. But I digress....)

And happy to be here!

Quote:
I must say it is comforting to hear that you are a fan of Joss and his work. I think that will help lay to rest the fears of some of us Browncoats.

Did you ever have the opportunity to see Firefly on television? Have you checked out the series on DVD yet? Any feelings on the show or the characters?

Does religiously watching every episode the night it aired and buying the DVD set the day it came out and watching them over and over and over again even before I got this assignment count?

Seriously, love the show, love all the characters, love the setup, eagerly looking forward to getting to play in the universe.

Quote:
Thanks for stopping by. Hope to see you post again soon.

This soon enough?

Keith R.A. DeCandido
keith@decandido.net
DeCandido.net | AlbeShiloh.com
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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 5:43 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Quote:
Originally posted by KRAD:
No need to be formal. First name or initials are both fine. (I'd prefer Keith, but I've gotten accustomed to being called KRAD, particularly after I sold an Andromeda novel; in Drom fandom, "Keith" is Keith Hamilton Cobb, so I had to be KRAD. But I digress....)

And happy to be here!

Keith it is then. Again welcome to the site Keith!

Quote:
Does religiously watching every episode the night it aired and buying the DVD set the day it came out and watching them over and over and over again even before I got this assignment count?

Seriously, love the show, love all the characters, love the setup, eagerly looking forward to getting to play in the universe.

Well, if it is religiously then I guess it counts.

Glad to hear that you are a Browncoat like the rest of us. I think this will assure all of the Browncoats that the novelization is in great hands.

So how many times have you watched the DVD set so far?

I think it is great that you love the characters, setting and show. I envy your being able to write the novelization of the movie. Has Joss approached you about the possiblity of novels set in the Firefly verse?

Quote:
This soon enough?

Great! Thanks again.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:14 AM

HELYGEN

Quote:
Originally posted by KRAD:
The final paperwork still needs to be processed and signed, but this is fairly close to a done deal.

Keith, first of all, congratulations!

Secondly, has there been any discussion of Firefly novels beyond the movie tie-in? Either novelizations of episodes (a la BtVS) or new works of fiction based on the characters and established cannon? Would you be up for that?

thanks
~helygen~

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Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:27 PM

KRAD

I don't know one way or the other if there will be Firefly novels beyond this, to be honest. I'd love a shot at an original novel, certainly.

As to how many times I've watched the DVDs -- gah, I don't know. I long ago lost track.

Keith R.A. DeCandido
keith@decandido.net
DeCandido.net | AlbeShiloh.com
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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 6:46 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Quote:
Originally posted by KRAD:
I don't know one way or the other if there will be Firefly novels beyond this, to be honest. I'd love a shot at an original novel, certainly.

An original novel, or novels, would be excellent. With all of the Browncoats here, at the movie site, the OB, and others, novels would sell very well.

Quote:
As to how many times I've watched the DVDs -- gah, I don't know. I long ago lost track.

Right there with you Keith!

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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