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Originally posted by wr_orion:
I'm with ya REAVERFAN. Same here, I JUST got introduced to Firefly and am only half way through the series so far.

I also created an account and commented. Firefly would definitely be a reason to sign back up with Netflix. I cancelled my account about a year ago but would gladly sign back up for something like this.

"Go then, there are other worlds than these."

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Certainly, Michael Cera and Jason Bateman (among others) have gone on to pretty big movie careers following ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT, but neither has demonstrated a particularly strong following or the ability to "open" a movie on their own. Nathan Fillion, though, has similarly expanded his fan base with CASTLE.

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
As Jayne would say, "That's just crazy talk."

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Originally posted by WUBWUBWUB:
I hate to bust your filter bubble, guys, but he's not an "out of touch TV executive." He's exactly the opposite – do you know how much information Netflix has access to? They know what shows you're watching, they know when you watch them, they know whether you finish the shows, and at what point you stopped watching. They have 29.2 million subscribers ( http://news.yahoo.com/numbers-netflix-subscribers-205626746.html), all of which are feeding them the above information on what shows they're watching. You have access to... your circle of friends. He's not basing this on supposition, he's basing it on cold, hard facts: he's run the numbers, and the number of Netflix subscribers who've been watching Firefly doesn't justify the expense of a series.

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Originally posted by two:
It is time for the Two Minutes Hate video. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate
Loose your fury!

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Originally posted by DOMOKUN1:
Yeah, they're a bunch of chumps. Everybody is entitled to their opinion - but as for the Serenity being the end of it comment? NO WAY! There is so much more that could be done pre and post-Serenity. Dude's on crack.

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Originally posted by SC_FF_FAN:
WOW, what a mean natured video but I can see the underlying business behind it. As mentioned, he is nothing more than a You-Tube troll trying to bump up his site's hit count by attacking various groups with avid fans and thus getting paid. This guy and his video crew tried to hit every hot button to anger the Firefly Fans. I hope these folks have some good security because there are a few extreme fans of these different venues they attack that may come after them. Unfortunately, I watched it and probably gave him another hit credit. It would ironic if this video launched a remake of the Firefly series where everything else failed.

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Originally posted by WUBWUBWUB:
I hate to bust your filter bubble, guys, but he's not an "out of touch TV executive." He's exactly the opposite – do you know how much information Netflix has access to? They know what shows you're watching, they know when you watch them, they know whether you finish the shows, and at what point you stopped watching. They have 29.2 million subscribers ( http://news.yahoo.com/numbers-netflix-subscribers-205626746.html), all of which are feeding them the above information on what shows they're watching. You have access to... your circle of friends. He's not basing this on supposition, he's basing it on cold, hard facts: he's run the numbers, and the number of Netflix subscribers who've been watching Firefly doesn't justify the expense of a series.

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I actually agree that this is probably what the guy was trying to say, but it's very poorly worded. Either that or the articles quoting this took it out of context.

Fans and netflix subscribers aren't the same animal. The mistake here is saying that the number of FANS has gone down since the original broadcast. For that to be true there would have to be less new people finding that they like the series, adding to the existing base, than there are people who have grown to dislike the series and are lost from the existing base. That loss is itself different from people who have become inactive but who still consider themselves fans. All of the inactive browncoats would enthusiastically embrace new Firefly, so they're still fans, but they could only wait so long before they moved on to something else.

With Firefly you might have increasing inactivity, but you don't really have a lot of fan loss over time. People don't really start out liking the series and then grow to dislike it, the trend is that you see the series and you either love it or you think it was overhyped and hate it.

What he MEANT is that the number of netflix subscriptions for Firefly has gone down from the original numbers when they first posted it. Which is a rather obvious end result without new episodes.

But to conflate those numbers with fan numbers and conclude fan numbers have gone down is basically erroneous. Apples and Oranges.

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Originally posted by GWEK:
I can't help wonder if Joss himself and some face-saving isn't a factor here . . .

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
The number of Netflix subscribers watching Firefly on that service and the total number of Firefly fans are two entirely different things. There is absolutely no way that the show has fewer fans now than when it was broadcast on FOX.

As Jayne would say, "That's just crazy talk."

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Originally posted by DMI:
This just sounds like a challenge to me. What should we do this time? Firefly watch parties on Netflix? Send postcards that say "We're still here?" Bombard Netflix's facebook page?

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I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
and the cool, green hills of Earth.

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