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Why was this show ever cancelled? just finished watching the set
Monday, March 22, 2004 5:41 PM
MATHEWJ
Monday, March 22, 2004 5:48 PM
BROOKIE
Quote:Originally posted by MathewJ: ...while the theme music is rather bad...
Monday, March 22, 2004 5:55 PM
NOOCYTE
Monday, March 22, 2004 5:57 PM
GRIMCHAOS
Quote:Originally posted by Brookie: Quote:Originally posted by MathewJ: ...while the theme music is rather bad... I can't believe i just read that. "The Ballad of Serenity" is by far the greatest theme song i have ever heard. It fits the show perfectly. The theme song perfectly reflects what was lost in the war and what Malcom now faces (IMO).
Monday, March 22, 2004 5:59 PM
Monday, March 22, 2004 6:35 PM
SUCCATASH
Monday, March 22, 2004 6:46 PM
PEACE
Monday, March 22, 2004 6:52 PM
RKLENSETH
Monday, March 22, 2004 7:30 PM
SHINY
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 1:47 AM
KALIMEERI
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:15 AM
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:42 AM
TRASK43
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:54 AM
BROWNCOAT1
May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:18 AM
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:22 AM
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:53 AM
METAPHORE
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:02 AM
CARTAGIA
Quote:Originally posted by kalimeeri: Actually, when you think about it, a return to the way our civilization progressed is not so wild. Settlers would have to use what was cheap and available, and what had worked in the past. If you have no regular supplies of fuel, etc. coming in, animals serve a multitude of purposes. Not to mention that the 'old west' is a romantic concept and ingrained in the common imagination. People who were "born 40 years too late", so to speak, might embrace an opportunity to play cowboy. Jen dao mei.
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:35 AM
SERENA
Quote:Originally posted by trask43: I know its been talked about before but I think overall the main problem the show had is its just such a hard sell. I have to admit when I first heard of the show I wasn't really interested in seeing it and even now its still pretty hard to describe it to someone and get them interested straight away. But as we all know as soon as someone has sat down and watched a few eps their hooked.
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Serena: Quote:Originally posted by trask43: I know its been talked about before but I think overall the main problem the show had is its just such a hard sell. I have to admit when I first heard of the show I wasn't really interested in seeing it and even now its still pretty hard to describe it to someone and get them interested straight away. But as we all know as soon as someone has sat down and watched a few eps their hooked. That is my experience exactly. If I try to describe it to them, it sounds lame, but I know if they'd just watch it they'd love it. The difficulty is getting them to watch. And, welcome MathewJ! Sit down and gab with us for a while. We like gabbing
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:52 AM
SBWATCHER
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:57 AM
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:02 AM
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SBWatcher: Hi Browncoat1, thank you for the kind welcome ... hope to be around often!
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BrownCoat1: No problem. We are a friendly bunch around here.
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:54 PM
ECMORGAN69
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 1:26 PM
KARENKAY99
Quote:Originally posted by kalimeeri: You know, if someone had told me this was a "western" before I watched it, I wouldn't have. I abhor westerns, and haven't watched one since the "Maverick" and "Rawhide" days. Neither do I particularly care for bluegrass/country (aversion therapy courtesy of an ex-spouse).
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:17 PM
DARKJESTER
Quote:If there are any browncoats in the South Bend, IN area, drop me a line.
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:06 PM
DARTHVEGAS
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:33 PM
THEFOP
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:43 PM
BAMADAVE
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:28 PM
ERELLEVENT
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:06 PM
HAPLO721
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by bamadave: to answer your original question as to why this show was cancelled, because nobody f'ing watched. all the other reasons are just excuses meant to obscure the fact that the fans of the show let it down. aired out of order - so what. watch the episodes in their intended order and the story is still told out of order. they flash back or reveal details later in the series that you don't get in the pilot. also, each episode stands well enough on its own that it doesn't require seeing the previous one. pre-empted for baseball - who cares? sci-fi fans can wait 16 years between star wars films and still manage to figure out when to go to the theater in record numbers, but can't seem to figure out that firefly will be on again in two weeks? time slot of death - well either it is a great show or it isn't. if people can't be bothered to make time to watch it on a friday night, they must not really think it is a great show. didn't know it was on - one of my favorites. is the network supposed to come to your house and change the channel for you? every newspaper and countless websites all have tv grids. people can't take one minute out of their day to see what is on? fox just wants to make more reality crap - close, but missing the point. fox just wants to make money. they had to hire extra people to rake up all the cash that american idol show is bringing in. there is not an evil plot at the network to only make bad tv. they are there to make a profit, and you can bet that if firefly was getting top 20 numbers that they would be more than happy to keep flying. etc etc etc. this might seem harsh but i think it is worth pointing out. firefly was cancelled because the fans let it down. they didn't watch, and that is what you get. sadly, since people would rather say f fox and the people at fox are morons and any other thing besides 'it's our fault', it will happen again and again. rather than focus all of that energy tilting at the fox windmill, they should be trying to figure out why it is that sci-fi fans couldn't be bothered to tune in. until that is figured out, it will just keep happening. ask the fandoms at dark angel, odyssey5, the lone gunmen, millenium, harsh realm, space above and beyond, veritas the quest, american gothic, etc. etc. etc. hey, look over there at that clever new wonderfalls show that nobody is watching. then again, people probably don't know when it is on. or they are too busy on friday. or it might have been advertised wrong. or fox might really want it to fail. or this. or that. or the other.
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:10 PM
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:36 PM
FIREFLYTHEMOVIE
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:14 PM
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:25 PM
ZORIAH
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Haplo721: Well, if people want to completely sacrifice any chance at a social life, then yes, they can stay home every Friday at 8. Otherwise, you tape/TiVo the show or miss it. In either case, it only matters if you have a Neilson box on your TV.
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:37 PM
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 10:47 PM
Wednesday, March 24, 2004 2:35 AM
Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:12 AM
ECGORDON
There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.
Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Zoriah: Bamadave, trying to make people feel guilty collectively and accusing them of making excuses is not a great way to get them on board with your ideas. However, (I could be wrong) I think I get the gist where you are coming from. So often people don't get behind a show until it's too late. The buzz starts happening after the show's already on the bubble or even stopped airing altogether. I think that fans of quality shows are starting to realise that fan hype and buzz are very important, even prior to a show premiering, and that with the internet as a ready resource it's important to not only keep informed but also to inform others of shows worthy of our attention and support. There was no way I could have helped Firefly by watching it when it aired as I live in New Zealand and do not get Fox here, but as soon as it came out on DVD I ordered myself a copy. You are talking about being more proactive rather than reactive I think.
Wednesday, March 24, 2004 5:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by bamadave: to answer your original question as to why this show was cancelled, because nobody f'ing watched. all the other reasons are just excuses meant to obscure the fact that the fans of the show let it down. aired out of order - so what. watch the episodes in their intended order and the story is still told out of order. they flash back or reveal details later in the series that you don't get in the pilot. also, each episode stands well enough on its own that it doesn't require seeing the previous one. pre-empted for baseball - who cares? sci-fi fans can wait 16 years between star wars films and still manage to figure out when to go to the theater in record numbers, but can't seem to figure out that firefly will be on again in two weeks? time slot of death - well either it is a great show or it isn't. if people can't be bothered to make time to watch it on a friday night, they must not really think it is a great show. didn't know it was on - one of my favorites. is the network supposed to come to your house and change the channel for you? every newspaper and countless websites all have tv grids. people can't take one minute out of their day to see what is on? fox just wants to make more reality crap - close, but missing the point. fox just wants to make money. they had to hire extra people to rake up all the cash that american idol show is bringing in. there is not an evil plot at the network to only make bad tv. they are there to make a profit, and you can bet that if firefly was getting top 20 numbers that they would be more than happy to keep flying.
Quote:etc etc etc. this might seem harsh but i think it is worth pointing out. firefly was cancelled because the fans let it down. they didn't watch, and that is what you get. sadly, since people would rather say f fox and the people at fox are morons and any other thing besides 'it's our fault', it will happen again and again. rather than focus all of that energy tilting at the fox windmill, they should be trying to figure out why it is that sci-fi fans couldn't be bothered to tune in. until that is figured out, it will just keep happening. ask the fandoms at dark angel, odyssey5, the lone gunmen, millenium, harsh realm, space above and beyond, veritas the quest, american gothic, etc. etc. etc.
Quote:hey, look over there at that clever new wonderfalls show that nobody is watching. then again, people probably don't know when it is on. or they are too busy on friday. or it might have been advertised wrong. or fox might really want it to fail. or this. or that. or the other.
Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:44 AM
Quote:Hi SBWatcher, and Welcome!! I'm in Goshen, 30 miles east of you.
Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:28 PM
Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:52 PM
SAMURAIX47
Quote:Originally posted by Cartagia: I'm not certain but I think it was Robert Heinlein who first came to the conclusion that frontier civilization would resemble what we think of as 'western' civilization. When you are all alone out on the fringe, with your life and those of your family depending upon the equipment you have, you want to know that it will almost never break and that if you are unlucky enough for it to happen, then you or one of your neighbors can fix it themselves, not have to ship it back to some tech shop to get repaired in a month or so, if you are lucky.
Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:12 PM
RUTHIE
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