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awwwwwwwwwwwwww...... I missed you NVG!! *bear hugs*

Ah - I was just scrolling through and wondering where RIMG is too? hmmmm... might have to go on a bear hunt...

Hello DTH!! I have missed your posts lately! And LA - hello Honey! And Mav... *huge hugs* my equally bewitching one! Penguin - we wish staying on line to talk with us paid better too - it certainly is better for us when you have the time!!

Hello qing ren

I had a good nights sleep sweetheart and I did have sweet dreams - thank you!

Well - I will hope to catch you all later! I am off for lunch with a bunch of friends...

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Friday, December 15, 2006 3:04 PM

I really miss a lot now that they won't allow us to use our office computers for personal reasons. It is not that they think we are watching porn or wasting time. They are just afraid of spam. I never got spam at work. I think we must have a really good spam protector in our system. But I know people who have gotten it. It seems spam will always find a way.

So MSG could not get into a Pagan site. So much for freedom of religion. When Alexander the Great conquered the known world the Greeks considered any religion other than there own gods as Pagan. The Hebrews had a hard time after that. The Romans were even more tolerant then the Greeks. Well for a while. Than the

hit the fan after several rebellions.

But this country claims to be tolerant of others and yet the word cult is a dirty word.

Just me ranting again.

Traveler

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Friday, December 15, 2006 4:05 PM

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Mav - I actually like the name Maura! I'm usually very fond of any name that's not very common too.

JQ- Heh, that's a very elaborate goodbye there..

Traveler - I really don't think that it's just cult sites that they're trying to block at schools, because there are so many sites that are blocked that really shouldn't be. I think that they're just trying to keep people from doing things not relating to school, but then not doing the best job of it...Far too many times I've tried to go to a site to get information, and then that lousy "proxy" screen comes up...

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Friday, December 15, 2006 5:00 PM

I can see they are over cautious in order to play it safe. But I have known people of other faiths that would be considered a cult and they are the nicest and warmest people on Earth. It just seems to me that the words cult and pagan have had such a bad connotation.

Not being a Christian myself, I believe I fall into the pagan catagory. I do believe Jesus was one hell of a very nice guy. I just believe that God created everything and that means we are all the sons and daughters of God. That is what I preceive from reading about Jesus. Of course that is my opinion and I don't expect anyone to share it.

Traveler

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Friday, December 15, 2006 6:44 PM

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Hello lovely Traveler

I thought that Pagan's in this day and age were those who followed the Pagan religion of understanding and to some degree worshipping the earth and the seasons, the ebb and flow of the natural world - though in Medieval tradition you would indeed be a Pagan... you'd also be burned at the stake so thank goodness we're not medieval in our attitudes hey?

As a Christian I think Jesus was one heck of a guy too of course!!

so we do have something in common there too!

I didn't get to ponder the name thing MsG

I think I have mentioned before that I have always loved the name Laura, or Helena (Hel-ay-nah) which is a family name and from the German line of women on my mothers side... I also love the names Siobhian (Sha-vorn), Niamh (Neeve) and, like James I adore the names Chloe and Phoebe - actually I have a friend who's daughters are named just that! Moira/Maura, Isobelle/Isobella and Kaylee are on my current list too!!

For boys I like the classic names that make good nick names and also work for a boy or a man - like Thomas (yes... I know a gorgeous boy called Thomas), Johnathon, Nicholas, Christopher or Jackson or Samuel - these last two have family connections too of course... I also love the name Martin and as that is my mother's maiden name it is my nephew, Joshua's, middle name. (Jackson is my paternal grandmother's maiden name and my maternal grandfather was known as Jack too!) I have always loved Laura and Nicholas most consistently through the years - but they all have merit and I agree that you need a few so you can meet your child and see which name suits them!

I once heard of a couple who allowed her much younger brother to name their first child - he called it Forrest (Forrest Gump was a big movie out at the time)??? Then when they had their 2nd child Forrest got wind that his 'uncle' had named him and insisted on naming his new brother himself... you'd think they'd learnt their lesson but they let him anyway - he named his baby brother 'Truman'... you guessed it - the Truman Show was the movie of the moment!!

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Friday, December 15, 2006 6:52 PM

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MsG: You'd have an apoplexy if you came to the school I went to, when I was there. Half of the teachers were on their way out, and phoning in their work. Of those left, half of them were so green that you could use them to paint shamrocks, and torn between inept and rods-and-axes authoritarians. I can think of two that were actually effective teachers.
Oh, I just remembered. Bear in mind, what I'm about to say is unblemished truth: One of the teachers in that school was illiterate. I shit you not. Completely friggin' illiterate. Couldn't read a word of English, or any other language. What he was doing there, I can't say. Bring up pig farming, and you distract him for an hour.
And I also recall one incident, when I was seven years old, that my teacher (one Mrs. Smith, by name. Boney old bat...) dragged me by my hair out of the classroom. Couple that with three successive Principals who are either openly antagonistic toward you, completely oblivious of you, or only mildly interested in your plight, respectively, and you have a very unpleasant 'learning' environment.
Of course, this school is situated in a town which banded together to run a black family out of town only twenty or so years ago. It's so backwards you can almost hear the theme from Deliverance playing every time you're forced to drive past it.

Religion: I'm not Christian, by any stretch of the imagination. That's not to say I'm an atheist. I don't think that 'God' created the world, and all life on it. The world was formed by the accretion of particulate matter around a protostar, and life was formed by spontaneous amino-acid synthesis.
What I don't know, though, is where the Universe came from. If there is a God, than it is there whence I place Him.

"The Cut": I'm cut, and I've never really given it a second though. Any boys I have will also be. It's cleaner, there's a whole host of nasties which won't have a place to live, and a number of extremely painful conditions which they'll never need to worry about. Also, it's more showy. Ta-da!

For male names, though, I'd have to go with Logan. I'm not sure why I like it, but it seems to sound good to me. Or, I could do something weird, and dig into the 1800's names, and pull out something like Casher.

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Friday, December 15, 2006 8:35 PM

Hello Magdalena:

I have to be careful when it comes to religion and intolerance. It lights a fire inside me. I keep promising myself never to discuss religion or politics and yet I am drawn to it like a insect to one of those zappers. And ZAP there goes Traveler. I guess that would be the equivalent to being burned at the stake.

I like short single syllable names like Ruth or Anne. People always want to shorten your name anyway, so start out with one.

Traveler

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Friday, December 15, 2006 9:11 PM

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Hi James! I like Logan too - I think I associate it with pop culture/literary characters I liked! I like your take on 'creation' too... but if God is in the start of the Universe - then isn't He the one who created all life matter and all that stuff? Even though Joss Whedon didn't write every line of 'Firefly', 'Buffy' or 'Angel'... he is still the creator of those amazing shows... (hey - did you see what I did there?

I made a Joss/God analogy!!)

Hey Traveler - that's cool about not discussing religious intolerance though I think we all need to air our thoughts now and again... it doesn't have to get you hot under the collar... But one thing that did recently: I saw 'Borat' last week at the cinema... (I know...

and 'no' I am not recommending it to anyone...

) and I was amazed by the intollerance displayed on at least 2 occassions by those proffessing to be Christian... once when a prostitute entered a home and Borat, who had well overstepped the mark several times and been excused, was suddenly told (& in no uncertain terms) to leave immediately! The other time absolutely stunned me - it was when he woke up on the footpath with nothing - just the clothes on his back and when we realised where he was... he had slept in the doorway of a church and the congregation were literally stepping over him to enter the building... if any of them stopped to talk with him or to see if he was OK or needed anything it was not shown in the film...

That, my friends, is not Christianity as I understand it... and I tend to get my examples straight from Jesus (ie:the original Christian) wherever I can!

OK... heavy rant over now...sorry... I also wanted to say that those two names you mentioned, Traveler - Ruth and Anne - are also two of my favourites and my best friend's middle name is Ruth and mine is Anne... so there you go! There are some beautiful Biblical names too... Rebekkah or Sarah are names I like, Ruth is actually my favourite Old Testament book... Naomi is another lovely name for a woman!

Oh - and as a nanny I can say that more of the little boys I have changed nappies for in recent years have not been snipped... and there is really no medical reason to do so... nor should it be a 'turn off' for any woman (we're now talking about adult relationships, just to be clear) I am sure!! I would prefer to not have any son of mine circumsized if/when the time comes...

EDIT: Oh... I forgot to comment on the problem with internet filters thing... there is a town in England that had all sorts of issues with filters - none of the websites would come up on Google or any other search engine... the problem was in the middle of this town's name was a rather demeaning and particularly offensive 4-letter-word... poor people couldn't log on to the Scunthorpe Library, Scunthorpe School, Scunthorpe Theatre Company or even the Scunthorpe City Council... all were blocked by filters...

True story!

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Friday, December 15, 2006 9:48 PM

Hey back at you Magdalena. The story of Ruth is my favorite as well. Small world.

Now circumcision was considered cleaner and thus healthier years ago. Now I think that has changed. We bath more frequently and the medical profession does not push it like they used to. Like most things it will change slowly. In a couple of generations it will probably disappear. Only remaining in the Hebrew tradition. I have heard of men having it done in later life and damn if I would let anybody cut me down there. Even thinking about make me edgy.

Traveler

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Friday, December 15, 2006 9:50 PM

Evening, Magda, My Sweet Aussie Kaylee-Clone,

I'm feeling a long response for today's thread coming on me, but I wanted to write a short note to let you know that I'm online right now. How are you doing? Have you made the move?

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Friday, December 15, 2006 10:34 PM

Penguin, I've been missing you. Hope you can take a break from work and post more often.

Kinetic, nice to see you on the Imponderable thread. I hope you come back and post often.

MsG, I like a lot of the names that have been mentioned. I really like the ones that DTH suggested. I'm surprised that Traveler didn't recommend Priscilla or Kim.

Mav, I'm always in favor of not hurting infants although I did have a friend who was big on the natural ways of birthing and no cutting. She had twin boys. They were not circumcised. Then one got an infection when he was 4 years old. Hmmm, she really regretted not having it done at birth because of the pain and trauma that it caused her son when he was 4. Needless to say the boys are no longer identical.

JQ, about what people call me, I answer to a lot. There are a few that call me VX, although most go for VE. I've even had a few shorten it to Verse. Our Dearest Magda calls me her older Kaylee Clone, and of course she is my dear Aussie Younger Kaylee Clone.

That was some farewell wave that you posted. Are you ever coming back? Don't leave us. Be sure to come back.

NVG, I hope things are working out with GND. Take all the time you need. By the way, I do love the tattoo.

DTH, recently a newbie asked how I was able to make such a great signature. I immediately told him that my friend DeskTopHippie had made the custom signature for me (as well as 2 others that I alternate occasionally). You are the BEST and very talented.

LA, I think it was in the Bar and Grill that you mentioned you were cooking latkes for 12. How did it go? Are you exhausted? Don't ever volunteer to do that again.

AsortaFairyTale, I live near the Grand Canyon, so be sure to stop before you ever take a trip there. I want to meet you before you go.

Chris, you have a friend with a daughter named Serenity? That is so cool.

Rhyianan, I have to agree with you. Talking about taping a child to the wall is one thing, but doing it is criminal. No need to apologize for the rant. The parents should be apologizing.

James, it makes my skin crawl to hear about the educational system that you went through. I wish you could have been in a nurturing environment with teacher's that could see your gift and potential. I admire you that you are able to continue your education.

Traveler, discussing religion can be a heated discussion, but I think you know that those of us on the Imponderable thread are accepting of everyone's beliefs.

My Dear Magda, are you still around. I have been missing your posts.

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Friday, December 15, 2006 11:00 PM

Hello VerseExplorer:

I think you got everybody. Good job.
I actually don't like the name Priscilla. Although that does not stop me from liking the woman. Kim is good. I should have come up with that one right away. Da! A name I do like is Philipa. I am not sure if that is how it is spelled. A "Masterpiece Theater" production had a female character with that name and it stuck in my head.

If could rant about education now that I have covered religious intolerance, but I think one or two rants a week are enough and two in one thread is a bit much. Call this a mini rant.

Traveler

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Friday, December 15, 2006 11:12 PM

Hey, Traveler, nice to know you're still around tonight. I understand how you can like someone, but not really care for the name. I love my Captain, but I'm not a big fan of the name Malcolm.

You know it's late at night, and there's not many around right now, so you can rant all you want about education. I'm in the field, and I can see a lot of the problems. Of course my view is that there are too many uninformed politicians that are making decisions about our educational system.

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:25 AM

Yea VerseExplorer, Milwaukee does not lead the nation in education. I can not place the whole blame on them. My family was disfunctional. I inherited my alcoholism from my father. So I had bigger things to deal with than homework or studying for a test. I just get angry that none of my teachers ever bothered to ask what is going on. I could have said something. But what does a kid know. I was just going from day to day.

That is the past. I don't live like that anymore.

Someone brought up an imponderable about our worst injury. When I was in treatment for my own alcoholism I was 37 years old. They evaluated me and told me I had the emotional level of a 14 year old. That hurt. That was 19 years ago. So now you know you are talking to someone who is trying to learn to behave like an adult.

The one thing I learned in that time is I am not alone. We have over 24,000 registered members at this fansite. The odds are there are lot of them who share the same story. We have hundreds of AA meetings in Milwaukee every week and some are packed to the rafters with people just like me. So my story is not that uncommon.

Well Chrismoorhead said not to keep secrets. I have very few left.

Traveler

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:07 AM

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Hey Kaylee-clone!!

(not so very much older though!

) I am babysitting at the moment and don't have my floppy disc (with my favourite addresses) with me but I will answer your email when I get home... (how cool is it that the family suggested I use the internet while I am here??!!) I have moved in to my new digs (last night) for the next 6 weeks and I love it!

Hey Traveler

- one of my great-great Grandmothers was called Phillippa and I do like that name too... I also have a story about the spelling - when they arrived in Australia after a 4 month journey by ship, they would have been asked their names and asked to either sign or make a mark against it... in her Cornish accent she said her name and then made a cross next to what was written on the paper... Phallappa! There are many such stories from countries which spoke other languages, but this one from England always tickled me!

Sad to say she died less than a year later of dysentry, here in Melbourne and her infant son died the next day - they were both burried on Christmas day... (remember that this was in the height of summer and there wouldn't have been refridgeration available) I often think about her family in England - waiting for 4 months for a letter or news of the new baby, then finding out that she was dead and burried when they were celebrating their Christmas...

Ah...OK... anything less morbid to discuss...??

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:44 AM

Traveler, when we were growing up teachers were not as informed about how to identify children that were going through family problems and abuse. They absolutely should have noticed something, and it makes me feel sad to know how many children have gone through horrible experiences without anyone doing anything about it. Hugs for everything you have gone through.

Magda, Yeah! I'm so glad to hear that you will be here more often. It's so nice to know that the family suggested that you use the internet there.

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:47 AM

PENGUIN

Penguin love for all you Imponderables!

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:56 AM

Back at you, Penguin!

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:08 AM

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Thank you so much my dear Penguin

and if I had photobucket open I would send wombat love right back - but my own will have to do!!

Yes! I am lucky aren't I Kaylee-clone? I get to pop in and check on how you are all doing and I get to say hello to my favourite penguin in the whole world and I'm earning money at the same time! (just checked the little darling and he's sound asleep!

and best of all... I'm not living under my parents roof for the next 6 weeks!!!

EDIT: I didn't realise you were with the 76th Kaylee-clone!!! Whee!! We're going to have so much fun!!

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:43 AM

Life is good, Magda. And like Penguin some of the Imponderables will be waking up soon. Although being Saturday, some will probably be sleeping in a little bit later.

Yes, I am marching with the 76th. I wouldn't miss it.

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:35 AM

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

hello!

Anyone recognise this stranger?
My crazy busy period of mocks is finally over and I have my marks back, And I'm off work ill with a cold and having nosebleeds all over everywhere so I thought I'd drop in and say hi.

I have so much to tell you lot, and looks like I have a lot to catch up on too, 'twas the baby names that caught my eye, I'm still rootin for you MSG!
These are what I like
For a girl:
Kate (best name ever!), Lena or Isabelle
For a boy:
Zachary, or Jacob

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:53 AM

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SmartButDumbBlonde

!!!! (who is never dumb IMO...) How are you Honey?? I am worried about those nose-bleeds! Do you get those when you have a temperature? My little Su Cheh gets them when she has a temp and it's like someone turns on a tap! It was really scary the first time too... I put a wet towel (not a face-washer/flannel - a hand or hair towel) around her neck and (don't laugh) sit her on the vanity and put her feet in cold water in the sink... it works very quickly! Take care of yourself Sweetheart! We have missed you and hope you were happy with your marks and all!!

Yes - Kaylee-clone! I suppose they will - but I am going to bed now - I have to sing in front of lots of people in about 7 or 8 hours and I just got home from my babysitting job!

of course I also got paid

so I don't mind!

Oh - you've got mail too!

sneaky ninja kisses for my qing ren

hope you enjoy your weekend!

Goodnight all! - Magda x x x

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:15 AM

SmartButDumbBlonde, good to see you again. It's good to hear that you're back. Rest up and take care of yourself.

Magda, I'm going to sleep, too. I'll check my mail, and I'll probably catch up with you later this eveing.

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:20 AM

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

I don't know what it is Magda, but when I get a bad cold, I get nosebleeds. I think I'm to big to fit in our sink, I ususally just drip into said sink until it finishes, or if I'm busy, stick some kitchen towel up there.

I've always had them, since I was little, and I once went through a faze which lasted about a fortnight where I was having 5 or 6 a day.

I am happy with my marks, I got an As in Geography and English language, A*s in RE and Citizenship (ironically the two things which are compulsary to take, and I hate) and Bs in English literature and Art.
The art is the only one I'm not happy with, but I had everything planned out, then 3 days before the exam , my art teacher told me he didn't like what i was doing and had to change everything. We argued, he made me cry (me, the Ice queen!), then the head of Art came in and said I could do more or less what I wanted. My art teacher still feels really guilty about it and keeps trying to be nice to be, but it won't work ,seen as I never liked him in the first place, the ching wah tsao duh liou mahng.

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:31 AM

Goooood morning everyone or afternoon to those in other areas of this world.

Busy Saturday morning everyone. Bank, get a replacement screw for my glasses and finally broke down and got a new dictionary and thesaurus. They are hard cover and I hope that means they will last longer previous ones.

Aiya Smartbutdumbblonde:

That fong luh go se teacher sounds like a hwoon dahn.

I had a trigonometry instructor who complained if we asked questions. I started ignoring his lectures and strictly studied from the book. One of the few classes I got A's.

Are you nearly completed with your studies?
I foolishly stopped and never finished. That is why I advise people to never take a break and keep going while they have the momentum.

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Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:48 AM

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Hello and goodnight! I am off to bed - but I do like the idea of a new thesaurus and dictionary - I can't justify buying either at the moment, but I love those two incredibly useful books... I am still using my old high school dictionary and the internet was not heard of back then... so there were a few words not included!

Good night - good morning my dear friends - *

for my qing ren* - Magda x x x

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Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:42 PM

RIVERISMYGODDESS

evenin' Imponderables.

I know I've been MIA for a few days, and I have certainly missed you shiny shiny people.

Got a lot of stuff on my mind that may make it into a blog or a long e-mail sometime tomorrow.

I hope you are all having a good evening/morning.

DancingNeko - the dinner and a movie idea sounds great, and I will be driving

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Monday, December 18, 2006 12:40 AM

RIMG, it was a really quiet weekend on the Imponderable thread. I think everyone is getting ready fof the holidays. I hope you can get some of that stuff out on the blog. Sometimes it helps to get rid of it.

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Monday, December 18, 2006 1:12 AM

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Whoah... you weren't kidding Kaylee-clone! It has been a quiet day in Imponderable land... I think you just posted before me and that means that my dear RIMG was the only one to post in the last 21 hours before that!!!???

*shouts* Helloooooooo?... Where are you all?

Hmmmmm...

I did miss you RIMG

... I miss my Jimi-bear-hugs when you are not around and you are in my thoughts!!

Is anyone awake yet? Is it Monday over there??

EDIT: Oh dear - I meant to say that I missed Kim for a little while there Traveler - but that is a way sexeh picture of her! I loved the gorgeous sirens of the 50s and 60s... I think I have mentioned that I adored Audrey Hepburn to the point that I had a dream I would find out I was her love child - adopted out to my own parents and would blossom into her mini-me any day now! Then again I used to dream that I found a way to time travel and I would go back 100 years and play with Laura Ingalls Wilder before that... and when I was younger still - there was this fantasy that I could go and play with Winnie-the-Pooh & Piglet and Christopher Robins at Pooh Corner... I had an active imagination

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Monday, December 18, 2006 1:32 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Magda ! Are you here ? Good morning my beautiful friend !

Bryce

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Monday, December 18, 2006 1:35 AM

Magda, I am awake, but I'm heading for bed. I was partying this weekend, so I haven't been on FFF.net much lately.

You do have such a wonderful imagination. You might as well pretend that you can transport yourself to the States and back. It would be so nice to have Magda show up on our door steps. I hope to catch up with you later on after I get a few hours of sleep. Nighty night.

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Monday, December 18, 2006 1:42 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Have a good rest VE,sweet dreams !

Bryce
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Monday, December 18, 2006 1:46 AM

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Good night VerseExplorer... Sleep well sweet Kaylee-clone!!

Hello my gorgeous Little Albatross

we hardly ever get to play together!!

How is your day looking my wonderful friend?

EDIT: Oh I forgot - Congratulations you clever thing Smartbut(definitelynot)dumbBlonde!! I am so proud to know you (and I think your art teacher is an IDIOT!!

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Monday, December 18, 2006 1:54 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS

mornin' Imponderables.

* hugs Magda and LA big time and hopes they are both around to talk to, and leaves a hug for VE when she gets done with her sleep

Monday mornings suck.

~jimi
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