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Originally posted by Zeek:
Can't say I'm a very big random acts of kindness person. I'm far too much of a learn to deal with your own problems/consiquences of your actions person. I guess one of my pet peeves is people who seem to get through life by being coddled all the time or who seem to just believe everything should be handed to them on a silver platter. So, if I see someone forget their wallet I would most likely want to stick it to them that they should be more attentive next time.

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Okay! My first ponderance...ponder...uh...pondery thing, in a few parts:
Part, the First –
Why do co-workers think it's a good idea to engage in "romantic" relationships with one another? I guess I can understand it if it's a big company and they work in completely different / separate departments.... But when it's someone you often work with and often times has to give you direction...? How does that seem like a good idea?

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Originally posted by Tristan, rearranged by JonnyQuest:
As far as co-worker attractions/relationships, I see that as laziness on the part of the people involved. Ok, maybe not always, because there may be the chance that they were meant to be together, but still...

There is an old saying my stepfather taught me; Don't get your sex and paycheck at the same place. I have tried to live by that, and so far it has worked out quite well. Considering the places I have worked, that is not saying a lot, though.

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Originally posted by Zeek:
I find it easy enough to start feeling closer to people you see all the time. I mean I sorta view my co-workers as friends until I realize I know next to nothing about them outside of work. None of them are my age really. So, that may be all that is keeping me from developing romantic feelingses.

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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
Lack of social environment outside of work to find someone else. People are so desperate to hook up these days, and if they don't have an outlet outside of work, or they're very unsuccessful outside of work, then eventually it will manifest there due to lack of choices.

If neither of those situation applies, then it's probably because they're stupid and haven't thought through the negative consequences, or they're looking for sex and really don't care about the negative consequences.

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Hell's Kitten:
Why do some guys (read: a good number that I've encountered) want to be your friend only as long as they think there's a chance for sex?

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Tristan:
I may not be the best one to answer this...I am a firm believer that men and women can be friends without the spectre of sex hanging around.

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Zeek:
Those guys aren't your friend. They're just being friendly because they believe it's a good way to get a shot at having sex with you. It's not that guys can't be friends without thinking about sex. It's that guys who are only thinking about sex think being a friendly might get them a foot in the door.

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ChrisMoorhead:
That's just another way of asking "Why do most guys just want sex?", irregardless of bring friends with you. The being friends part is just a way some (and probably less experienced) guys figure that they can get close to you in order to make the jump from friend to lover. Now as to why guys just want sex: biology, and because women only say no with words. The culture of womanhood in America is one of skimpy outfits, bathing suits, and general aesthetics. HK, you're a model, right? How could you possibly wonder why men seek you out for sex? The very vocation of modeling is making yourself more physically appealing, and if you're going through the effort to be appealing, then on a primal level of the mind, you're just attracting as many mates as possible. Then you wonder why they show up wanting sex?

Even if you weren't a model, that's the standard set by other women who are. Psychologically speaking, men have Maxim, Playboy, Stuff, and every other shitheaded "men's" magazine shoved in their face on a daily basis. The women in those things set an unfortunate precedence for the rest of their gender, no matter how much they think they're "empowering" themselves by doing it. I've talked in great length about this before.

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Hell's Kitten:
Which is built upon the first two, how do I let a co-worker know that there is absolutely no chance whatsoever of having any kind of outside-of-work non-co-worker relationship with me?
I'm very stupid when it comes to subtlety, so I think this "crush" has been going on for a looooong time, and only recently have I figured it out (with the help of a friend pointing out the obvious to me). Since I've gotten this new perspective, I've been... kinda... distant, and am very aware that I'm treating him differently. I just naturally want to discourage any kind of romantic notions before he develops them more and I have to crush his soul.

Men confound me some. Help? Advice?
Run away with me?

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Tristan:
Now, knowing what I know of you so far (granted, it's only your online persona), I do not think you would have any problem telling someone that you are not interested in a romantic tryst. You can get quite poetic in your language, so it should leave no doubt in the air.

Other than being completely out of order (not anymore, jq), I hope that helps a little bit.
Don't feel bad. Y'all women-folk confound us men all the time. It's nice to hear the opposite is true, too.

Have we figured out where we are running too?

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Zeek:
Can't help you too much with this one. Aside from flat out rejection, some guys are capable of reading any little sign of interest as meaning the girl has feelings. You can avoid him like the plague, but eventually you'll still probably do something to keep him thinking he has a shot. The real problem is that it sounds like he isn't acting on this crush much. You can't really reject a guy if he never actually makes a move. Only other thing you can do is talk to him a lot about other guys you're interested in. It's a subtle hint that you're not even considering him in that category.

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ChrisMoorhead:
Clothesline him. No wait, he might think you're being playful. Just go ahead and crush him. Be blunt, even harsh if you have to, just don't make it public.

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Originally posted by Tristan:
This may have gotten lost in all the confusion...

Our new thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=25795

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Originally posted by traveler:
Not bad. The cold won't last. They never get the streets on our side of town cleaned off. To many cars parked on the streets to do a good job of plowing. So when it freezes the streets are like an obstacle course. Not good for the shock absorbers or back bones.

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