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Is there an Anti-Fandom?

POSTED BY: CAUSAL
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:37
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Monday, April 9, 2007 4:44 PM

CAUSAL


It occurs to me that everywhere I've been where I've seen some kind of rating of Firefly or Serenity, there have been an unusually high number of exceedingly low reviews. Is the 'Verse despised by some group for some reason? Is there an "anti-fandom" out there composed of people who delight in taking the opportunity to thrash Firefly and Serenity? I suppose this could all be a misreading on my part. If so, how to account for the horrifyingly bad reviews on some sites?

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Monday, April 9, 2007 5:09 PM

YINYANG

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Haha... you have no idea. I don't think they're very organized, or articulate, but they're out there.

This is the only group (if you can call two people a group) I've ever seen.

http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&gro
upID=102972696&Mytoken=0073F5F0-D2A4-4A41-958B7976102F6D3A9080679



(VERY IMPORTANT) Rules and voting: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=22892

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Monday, April 9, 2007 5:11 PM

SIGMANUNKI


To answer a question with a question on the other side of the coin: How many reviews are out there that rave about a show that is complete crap?

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Monday, April 9, 2007 6:09 PM

CAUSAL


Oh, a goodly many, I would imagine. But I don't make a habit of frequenting their boards to troll about; nor do I post abysmal reviews to try to drag down their overall ratings. So it's of interest to me why there are folks out there who do so against the 'Verse. Interestingly, I think The Steve hit on one: we seem to be quite the militant fandom. So to folk who don't believe in anything at all, them that do are an annoyance.

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Monday, April 9, 2007 6:13 PM

BROWNCOAT2007


I'd be forced to agree with you there Causal... also gunna add that I don't go about trashing other shows because I think they are crap... I just let people have their own way, unless, of course, that they argue that their so called "superior" show is better than Firefly

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Monday, April 9, 2007 6:15 PM

TRUEBLUE


hell, we could organise (as a millitant group as was previously stated) a guerilla war against those that get rave reviews with which our great show/movie is in direct competition with.

Innundate them with low reviews (whether they deserve it or not). Thus improving our overall position and attaining comparatively high (if underhandedly obtained) score.

But that is just nasty ...

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Monday, April 9, 2007 6:19 PM

CAUSAL


Yeah and the funny thing is that given our coherence as a fandom it would probably be more effective!*




*Am not suggesting or condoning such action, CYA.

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Monday, April 9, 2007 7:05 PM

SIGMANUNKI


@Causal:

I was just getting at, there are those that will rave, and those that will poo poo. There's nothing that can be done about it.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:47 AM

SHUKES


Most likely somewhere theres a group who call themselves purple bellies, try and destroy what they can of the verse just to get us angry.

They must know they can't win, we're browncoats - we're quite simply the best.


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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:42 AM

GROTZ


Guerilla warfare can be brutal.
My purpose is clear. Get get the 'verse back on the screen. Not, convincing everybody FF/BDM is the greatest.
The anti-fandom can work for us as well. Serenity beats Starwars in a poll, alot of people go wtf? then comes the raving and people go wtf? and now even more have to see what the fuss is about.
And I guess that more people than not, will like what they see.
So keep fighting browncoats.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:07 AM

PENGUIN




Fighting to the end, sir!




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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:15 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


I responded to The Steve's assertion about somebody's mother in the only way I knew how.
http://tinyurl.com/3cv7wv

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:12 AM

SHINYED


Maybe there really are forces dedicated to keeping Firefly down, but at least I haven't heard them refer to our BDH's as nappy-headed ho's....yet.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:32 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Quote:

Originally posted by Grotz:
The anti-fandom can work for us as well. Serenity beats Starwars in a poll, alot of people go wtf? then comes the raving and people go wtf? and now even more have to see what the fuss is about.



That may not be the best example, though. I mean, they were complaining on Whedonesque about that one, and a lot of the people on that site like Serenity. All in all, however, I'd have to say that if there is an anti-fandom, they're not really organized in any way. Lots of fandoms attract their share of irrational idiots that unjustifiably hate a show or film. Hell, I'm sure a lot of these people haven't even seen the show they claim to despise so much.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:43 AM

CONSTANCE


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
I responded to The Steve's assertion about somebody's mother in the only way I knew how.
http://tinyurl.com/3cv7wv



The term is companion!! LOL.... Extremly good answer.

And when will people stop feeling so threatend by other peoples choises on how they want to waist their time... Its not like the world is going under because some people like to watch more television, and the same series over and over again... Wahat is it they are afraid of..??

And how is creating a "we hate you guys" group on myspace not waisting time??

Constance

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:44 AM

EMPIREX


Quote:

Originally posted by yinyang:
Haha... you have no idea. I don't think they're very organized, or articulate, but they're out there.

This is the only group (if you can call two people a group) I've ever seen.

http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&gro
upID=102972696&Mytoken=0073F5F0-D2A4-4A41-958B7976102F6D3A9080679




That was halarious!!! Where did Steve come from and why is he so angry?

I'm guessing his girlfriend forced him to watch the show and he didn't take kindly to her drooling over Nathan or Adam or Alan or Sean...

Our show has a lot of pretty.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:48 AM

CONSTANCE


Quote:

Originally posted by EmpireX:


That was halarious!!! Where did Steve come from and why is he so angry?

I'm guessing his girlfriend forced him to watch the show and he didn't take kindly to her drooling over Nathan or Adam or Alan or Sean...

Our show has a lot of pretty.



That may be it... I know that has been the case with other guys with girlfriends and tv shows and movies.... insecurity has many different consequenses i guess..

Constance

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:04 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Yeah, when I hear other fandoms say things like...

Quote:

"What is it with fans of less well-known series usually being obnoxious? Compensation for lack of popularity I guess."

"It's a shame the Whedon obsessed drones of fandom feel the need to organise a block vote every time one of his creations appears in a poll."

"All the sheep on the Firefly forums have flocked together once more. "Ooh", they say, "another poll. Let's skew another poll in line with our feelings. BAAAAA"."

"Serenity and Firefly should be banned from all such polls because their insane fans will rig them to win every time.

The TV series was a flop. The film was a flop. Joss Wheedon has never had and will never have a mainstream success of his own creation. Hell, he was kicked off writing 'Wonder Woman' And the worst part is he actually encourages those fans of his to do these things."



...I feel like an abused child who's finally got up the courage to tell somebody about it, and only gets told, "Shut up! You're just looking for attention!"

For true, I try so hard to get people to watch Firefly because Fate has worked so hard to make sure people don't!

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:46 AM

TINADOLL


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
Yeah, when I hear other fandoms say things like...

Quote:

"What is it with fans of less well-known series usually being obnoxious? Compensation for lack of popularity I guess."

"It's a shame the Whedon obsessed drones of fandom feel the need to organise a block vote every time one of his creations appears in a poll."

"All the sheep on the Firefly forums have flocked together once more. "Ooh", they say, "another poll. Let's skew another poll in line with our feelings. BAAAAA"."

"Serenity and Firefly should be banned from all such polls because their insane fans will rig them to win every time.

The TV series was a flop. The film was a flop. Joss Wheedon has never had and will never have a mainstream success of his own creation. Hell, he was kicked off writing 'Wonder Woman' And the worst part is he actually encourages those fans of his to do these things."



...I feel like an abused child who's finally got up the courage to tell somebody about it, and only gets told, "Shut up! You're just looking for attention!"



Which fandom is this?

I have had only positive reactions from Trek fans every time i mention Firefly. Trek fans have had a recient dissapointment of thier own with the demise of "Enterpise" and the supposed new movie(which has all fans in an uproar). I am actually a Browncoat and a Trekker- and there are lots of us.

Perhaps its the Star Wars fans who are annoyed that Serenity has bumped Star Wars down the list?



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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:16 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by Tinadoll:
Which fandom is this?

>snip<

Perhaps its the Star Wars fans who are annoyed that Serenity has bumped Star Wars down the list?


Yeah, it's mostly those who can't believe Star Wars could've plummeted all the way to #2 (in a magazine poll) after only 30 years.
I got most of those quotes from the SFX poll site.
http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=lord_of_the_fireflies

I just discovered the StarDestroyer.Net board, and was looking through the old threads from '02-'03, and found a few Pro-Firefly threads...

SAVE FIREFLY!
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=8211

Giving Firefly another try
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=104591

Oddly, none of those same Browncoats turned out for the thread about the SFX poll...

Best SF movie ever: Serenity!
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=106935

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:30 AM

JEANDASK



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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:36 AM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE


Quote:

Originally posted by yinyang:
Haha... you have no idea. I don't think they're very organized, or articulate, but they're out there.

This is the only group (if you can call two people a group) I've ever seen.

http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&gro
upID=102972696&Mytoken=0073F5F0-D2A4-4A41-958B7976102F6D3A9080679



Haha, that was too funny! It like just the one guy hurling "your mom" insults at anyone who pointed out how pitiful he was! Some people just confuse me...

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:37 AM

JEANDASK


Quote:

Originally posted by yinyang:
Haha... you have no idea. I don't think they're very organized, or articulate, but they're out there.

This is the only group (if you can call two people a group) I've ever seen.

http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&gro
upID=102972696&Mytoken=0073F5F0-D2A4-4A41-958B7976102F6D3A9080679


I can't reply to them but they are Hi-larious!
The term is companion!! What can they say to that?!!!
*sigh with contentment* thats a battle won now ON WITH THE WAR!!

JDx



How come things never go smooth

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