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Imponderable Water Cooler- Like a bolt from the blue

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:45 PM

DEEPGIRL187


Okay, back now.

Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Shouldn't you be going to State? I mean it's closer to home for you. I'm at UofM...



Actually, I'm at Saginaw Valley, JQ. And I'm patiently waiting to see how much they're going to gouge us for tuition this year. We should know after tomorrow. At least it's not the university doing it to us. *grumble, stupid Granholm, grumble*

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*Hugs DeepGirl just because he can, evil monster that he is*


Even JQ tentacle-y hugs are okay by me.

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 2:20 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Well folks, I'm out for the day. Seemed a bit slow but hey, it's better than being in crisis. Really hoping no one is in crisis today.

Catch y'all later.

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:29 PM

RMMC


Quote:

origionally posted by RMIG:
*leaves bigassjimibearhuggles for Mavs and MsG and anyone else who stops by and wants one*



Me! I need one! *huggles jimi*

Quote:

originally posted by deepgirl187:
I'll take a few of them hugs and pass them on. I think the world would be a better place if everyone got a hug at least once a day.



I second that (or is it 5th it by now). *hugs to all who want 'em*

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originally posted by Jonny Quest:
So, here I am with my hands behind my back the whole time 'cause I was trying to be a gentleman...Okay, girlie, the octopus gloves are officially off!!



Where you been hidin' them things? I certainly didn't see 'em when I saw you last...or were you loaning 'em out to local hockey fans?

*hugs Jonny* I just had to mess with ya, JQ.


What movie scene is most like something in my life? I honestly cant think of anything. But then again, this is probably because I generally go see action-adventure, cartoons or non-gross horror.

*waves goodnight to NVG*

*****
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When we're down, don't frown. Come join the camp-out at serenitymovie.org.


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Friday, July 27, 2007 4:20 AM

MSG


gives RMMC a big HUG

Morning..at least I think it is...stupid son is out and all...sorry near death park/teenager combo plus long night babysitting for a friend.

Damn I was going to say something and it just ...whoooshed

Oh year scene in a movie closest to real life...MisterG did a total Monty Python, He was driving ( I was passenger as usual) and this person on a bike started to weave into our lane...and he said " Old woman...oh sorry old man" It was so Holy Grail I almost choked to death laughing and am chuckling now remembering it.

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs


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Friday, July 27, 2007 5:50 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


mornin' (afternoon in ~10) Imponderables.


Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Quote:

And I imagine jimihugs to be like glenhugs. Don't know why, I just do.

I imagine them to be big, strong, warm, gentle and if you're not careful, suffocating and rib-cracking.


You'll find out in person in about 34 days. :)


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
...given my statements that fido might make someone a good meal.


RAmen to that. If it comes down to it, I'd eat my pets to stay alive.

Of course, I'd eat my neighbor first, the ones I don't like.


Movie-like life moment: I'll have to think about this one.

~jimi
We must all fear evil men, but there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men.

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Friday, July 27, 2007 7:07 AM

RUGBUG


Shhh....you guys are being too loud.

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Friday, July 27, 2007 7:22 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Dumb and Dumber- When Harry and Lloyd meet for the first time by running into eachother.
Lloyd:"Someone broke by tooth"
Harry: "Somebody bit my forehead."

Might be more of a figurative resemblance but that's how strong friendships really start.

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Friday, July 27, 2007 7:50 AM

MSG


LOL NV:)

Ok have booked my ticket of joy to D*C:) Happy happy dance...and sorrow for those who will not be in attendance:(

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs


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Friday, July 27, 2007 8:07 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I was reflecting on that the other day. Not really sure when I can go. Next year may be a distant possibility. Even the scenario game near here in September seems to becoming more and more distant.

Game expenditures: $50 entry. Paint (can only use vendor paint) $65/ case of whick I'll need two. Food and water ??? Room after the 26 hour scenario for showers and rest $40. So we're talkin' at least $300 bucks easy. Plus, if I decide to do some PR for the group it might cost a little extra to have a 76th contingent at the scenario. Glad my kit is already comlete. But on the off chance there could be some parts breakage or incidentals. Luckily the costliest parts range in the $50 range so yeah...

Aw hell. I just wanna shoot someone. The little game I played with loaner gear last Sunday has already worn off. Jonzin' to throw some paint!!!

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Friday, July 27, 2007 8:46 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Afternoon, all.

I'd love to go to DragonCon, but unfortunately, the money required for such doesn't love me back. One day...

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Friday, July 27, 2007 9:18 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by deepgirl187:
Afternoon, all.

I'd love to go to DragonCon, but unfortunately, the money required for such doesn't love me back. One day...


I'm just scared of all the nerds. No offense to all the nerds going to D*C :-)

I'm a nerd too of course. I just try to hide it by blending in with non-nerds.

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Friday, July 27, 2007 9:19 AM

MSG


HUGS plus you've all the little rug rats ( who despite their tiny size are not cheap) We will miss you a ton though and take tons of pictures to share.

Hugs Deepgirl...next year sweety:)

LOL Zeek- my former cheerleader status acts as a balancing agent for the nerd factor..

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs


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Friday, July 27, 2007 10:21 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
LOL Zeek- my former cheerleader status acts as a balancing agent for the nerd factor..


How long does that last? There's gotta be some sort of statute of limitations.

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Friday, July 27, 2007 10:26 AM

RUGBUG


While I think you all will have a GRAND time...I'm not too upset about not being able to go. I have never had much luck with stuff like that. The few Swing dance camps I've gone to have been horrible...not because of the activities or whatnot...but because I didn't enjoy myself.

Being shy, with a natural 'get the f#@$ away from me' vibe means stuff like that usually isn't all that fun.

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Friday, July 27, 2007 10:26 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Manly acts have let me feel very Jayne-like lately.

So last night Mindy got off work and found out she could get a free after shift drink. I had a (one) beer to her six small margaritas. One of which was a special blend mixed strong but blended as not to knock the drinker completely ga ga. I had to exert some "adult" judgement and refused to take her to another bar. Sure she was pissed being drunk and all. But driving past the reservoir she decided to go for a moonlight swim.

Not quite on the skinny dipping side(thanks MSG) due to the passing traffic. But later we sat and listened to music on a side road before going home.

Details aside, I feel like a manly man today and had a great lunch hour cuddling and playing with the babies.

Stupid two hour sleep work days.

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Friday, July 27, 2007 10:49 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
While I think you all will have a GRAND time...I'm not too upset about not being able to go. I have never had much luck with stuff like that. The few Swing dance camps I've gone to have been horrible...not because of the activities or whatnot...but because I didn't enjoy myself.

Being shy, with a natural 'get the f#@$ away from me' vibe means stuff like that usually isn't all that fun.


I'm not the get away from me type. Though big groups are still not good in my book. The more new people I'm bombarded with the more I write them off as insignificant and I just basically ignore them.

That and I enjoy doing the thing at parties where you sit off to the side with a friend and just make fun of everyone else cause they can't hear you over the music.

Someday we'll have to go to a con and make fun of everybody else. What do ya say?

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Friday, July 27, 2007 12:12 PM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:

Someday we'll have to go to a con and make fun of everybody else. What do ya say?



I may take you up on that...although instead of making fun, it would have to be more of 'OMG-can-you-believe-that.' I only get mean-spirited when people are that way to me. Freaks are fun...and they expand our horizons...get us out of our comfort zone.

And they don't approach me because of aforementioned vibe, so life really is pretty peachy.

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Friday, July 27, 2007 5:59 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Decided to spend a little time getting ahead on payroll so here I am.

Kinda pissed. Blew out the crotch of my favorite baggy jeans while picking up meds at Walgreens. Sucks 'cause a certain someone really likes them too. Crap.

Last pant I blew out were my ACU pants I wore while paintballin'. Talk about pissed. My buddy John lightened the mood by mentioning the term "free ballin'". Comedy relief sure seems to be a stong point for me at time.

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Friday, July 27, 2007 6:24 PM

RMMC


*wearily wanders in*
Hey all, I'm off for my yearly Pennsic trip and wanted to give hugs to all and I'll stop in when I can steal...er...uh, borrow my campmate's laptop.

Sorry about your pants, NVG. *hugs*

Zeek...we're not all that bad at cons. Just think of it as a party where you can always find an interesting conversation or something nifty to look at.

I'll definitely be back for the "I'm not at D*C Par-tay."

Bed time for me. I gotta get up in 3 1/2 hours and load up the car.

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When we're down, don't frown. Come join the camp-out at serenitymovie.org.


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Monday, July 30, 2007 3:19 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


mornin' Imponderables.

You guys were quieter than the bar this weekend. Wow.

RugBug, if I saw you at a Con, I would come over and see you, regardless of the vibe. I'd even see if you wanted to dance some.

~jimi
We must all fear evil men, but there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men.

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Monday, July 30, 2007 4:31 AM

MSG


NV- wore out your pants...and in that area huh?? hmmm wonder how that could have happened

HUGS those who will miss out...

But Rugbug you won't be shy with us...you know us already:)


Morning all

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs


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Monday, July 30, 2007 6:30 AM

ZEEK


I saws a MsG birthday thread. It's your birthday MsG? Why isn't there a celebration in here? We don't need no separate thread to celebrate.

Happy Birthday MsG!

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Monday, July 30, 2007 6:35 AM

MSG


Aww thanks Zeek! HUSG. So how was your weekend?

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs


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Monday, July 30, 2007 6:46 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Aww. Happy Berfday MSG.

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Monday, July 30, 2007 6:57 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Aww thanks Zeek! HUSG. So how was your weekend?


More or less relaxing, but on Sunday my mouse's left click button died. Makes using the computer a bit more tricky. Luckily I was already in the market for a new mouse so I ordered on last Thursday. Unless there's some sort of crazy complications it should be waiting for me when I get home.

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Monday, July 30, 2007 6:59 AM

MSG


HUGS NV

aw poor dead mousie...

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs


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Monday, July 30, 2007 7:08 AM

RUGBUG


Happy Monday to all. And a special HAPPY BIRTHDAY to msg.

Zeek...hope there's a rodent waiting for you at home. ;)

Quote:

Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
RugBug, if I saw you at a Con, I would come over and see you, regardless of the vibe. I'd even see if you wanted to dance some.



And I would dance with you. Gladly. :D

msg: the shyness would still exist. The shyness is always there...even with some people I've known forever. It's not just 'new people' shyness. It's 'argh, I have to make conversation' shyness.'

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Monday, July 30, 2007 7:26 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Quote:

Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
RugBug, if I saw you at a Con, I would come over and see you, regardless of the vibe. I'd even see if you wanted to dance some.


And I would dance with you. Gladly. :D


Again (and as usual) you have made my day. :)

Quote:


'argh, I have to make conversation' shyness.'


You could sit with me in silence and I would not be offended in the least.

~jimi
We must all fear evil men, but there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men.

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Monday, July 30, 2007 7:36 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


All right. It's been a while but I need advice.
Or at least to air my grievences.

We went out this weekend and some drama befell the relationship. Things seemed to iron themselves out but early this morning there was a little beef still left over. I went outside at about 4:30 in the morning to chill the F out and drank a beer. First I've had in at least a week.

Mindys husband might be in this weekend to see their son and it seems there is a slight rift between us. Apparently we can't have sex because she is so conflicted over everything that is going on. She has decided to start the divorce proceedings after she see's him this weekend. Just some strangeness I can't completely understand. I have been assured that she is with me but it can't be official until she tells him it's over. Another strange bit is the fact that she mentioned that no matter what I am the only one she will even consider sex with. That, (wierdness but reassuring), she will not cheat on me with her husband.

Her only issue with me is some aspect where she says I am not stepping up. Of course she can't tell me what it is for whatever reason. I'm sure it's one of those things where if I don't do it on my own than I never will. But WTF am I not doing?

Question: What do/would any of you folks do to someone for laying their hands in a familiar manner on the one you love? Honestly I was on the verge of roughing some F-ing squid up this weekend. I did end up swinging him around and putting him on the ground but nothing more. Not that the chance did not present itself. In the twelve seconds of contact there were no less than fifteen chances to lessen his capacity to move and the initial contact was a modified throat jab as I did not wish to sit in jail for any amount of time.

What I'm really trying to say is that I cannot believe I was pushed even that far. I am not a good dancer. But other movements come natural. I just hope this part of me never surfaces again. I was ready, willing, and able to defend and assault his whiny bitch ass and all eight of his friends. Actually I'm thinkin' the willingness to do so was a little stronger than it had to be.

Shit. I really don't know what I'm trying to say anymore.

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Monday, July 30, 2007 7:56 AM

MSG


Sounds like a lot of turmoil...I'm guessing she's feeling awful about not having done the start of the divorce before starting with you and she wants to put a freeze frame up and kind of a do over by telling him before continuing with you. Also, I'm guessing what with the soon to be ex coming in town, plus the other stuff ( both potential and past) she's just feeling out of control and panicking and just feeling like somehow you should be helping, but unable to articulate what exactly she needs( ok I have so been there and just gotten all sorts of mad at MisterG and he's trying to find a way to be supportive and everything he does is " wrong" ..it does wear off I promise. Sometimes the whacko comes out when you're overwhelemed with forces beyond your control)
HUGS just try to hang in there and be as supportive as you can and when the whirlwind is over she will see and be normal and realize that you did step up..she just can't see it right now through the chaos and terror!!


HUGS to all and I will be back in a few hours..
"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs


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Monday, July 30, 2007 8:07 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


It is definately reassuring to hear a woman admit to going all wonky and doing what you mentioned. I see a change later on when she realizes that she calls me wrong no matter how right I am or considers all things I do to be wrong. It lasts five minutes but the effects carry for at least thirty.

Posted at Hotel 23 in the Haters Forum:

Douchebag squids and dumbass Natives


Sorry to offend any upstanding Navy personnel. There are some cool bastards stationed here that I get along with fine. I've actually been able to call a few friend.

But any man who wears a ring claiming to love his wife and children and being very lonely for them should not lay their hands familiar on another mans woman. Especially if that woman is mine and I am standing right there.

I had the chance to rough up a slimy f&^% behind my favorite bar early Sunday morning and opted instead to put him on the ground and listen to him whine like a little bitch as I walked away. Of course I hustled through and out the front as there is more space on Maine street to have it out with 8 to 10 of his friends. On one hand I'm glad security showed up and split the bar in half. On the other hand I really wanted to knock off the rust and have it out.

Of course there were a few Skins in the place and wanted in on the damn thing. Seems they could not take "Stay the f&^% outta my business" as an answer either. So I seemed to have pissed a few of them off too. I hate folks who wanna butt in just 'cause you're the same color. Neither did I need nor did I want their help.

For y'all who are capable of assaulting a group I commend you for being capable but less than willing to do so. I was told to pass that on by one of the older bar patrons to whom ever might need to hear it.
Some of us are capable of horrible things but are not evil because we can.
We are good because we won't.

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Monday, July 30, 2007 8:09 AM

ZEEK


NVG, I'm not sure I'm grasping the whole situation with the near fight. Did he put his hands on Mindy? If so it really depends a lot on what was happening as to whether or not you should have taken action. I mean a hand on the shoulder isn't much, but if he's doing more and she doesn't look pleased then I think you're totally justified. The other guy probably didn't know about her recent history, but that's still no excuse of the hands on.

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Monday, July 30, 2007 8:19 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


He knew she wa there with me and he knew I did not approve of his following her around as I had warned him an hour earlier.

As for the situation; she had been drinking and I had not. I could see first hand the game he was playing and called him on his behavior. I didn't just pounce half cocked. There is no way I can let something like that slide. But I did not humiliate him in front of folks and I left no evidence to prove that it happened. He got off light and I didn't have to relapse into a state of mind I've been working long and hard to change.

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Monday, July 30, 2007 8:35 AM

RUGBUG


NVG: sounds like there is going to be some turmoil for a bit. While husband was out of the picture, Mindy could sort of pretend he didn't exist. If he comes to town, she will be faced with the reality of the situation and the choices she has to make. You're caught in the middle of that and will experience the emotional fall-out.

While he is elsewhere she is picking up her life and moving on.
When he's in town, she's cheating on her husband and about to become a divorcee.
While he's elsewhere, he is a douchebag that ignored her and let bad things happen to her.
When he's in town he's a real person that is harder to villify. No one is 100% evil. And she will have to face that fact that others might not thing he's sucha douchebag.
Etc.

As for the guy in the bar...what was Mindy's reaction? Did SHE tell the guy to leave her alone? I think the answer to those two questions should dictate your response and could also provide some insight into your relationship.

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Monday, July 30, 2007 8:48 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
As for the guy in the bar...what was Mindy's reaction? Did SHE tell the guy to leave her alone? I think the answer to those two questions should dictate your response and could also provide some insight into your relationship.


This is the real point. When I'm in a relationship I have to be able to trust the other person. So, unless she's obviously trying to get the guy to leave her alone then I have no reason to step in. She's a big girl and needs to be trusted to make her own decisions. You won't always be around either.

So, again it depends on the situation and what actually was going on.

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Monday, July 30, 2007 10:00 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I trust her to no end. She was drunk and very down. He was playing a cuddle/comfort game that I didn't entirely agree with. Of course she was mad at me to begin with saying I didn't trust her and that she can take care of herself. Later she had sat with some folks the coffee shop for breakfast and from the way her was talking she saw that he was a total f-ing clown shoe. We drove in the county that morning and I told her that I do trust her love and judgement. I just ain't willing to trust any man with someone I love so much. With previous issues at hand and my continuing with the suppression of unneeded anger on my part there is no way I can trust anyone. There will be another someone who comes along willing to take what is not his and will do what he has to in order to get it. That includes superceding her own lack of willingness to give what he might be willing to take. If faced with that there is no telling what my response could be.

She did tell me how right I was about the slimy one. We drove around listening to music and talking alot of things out. I can see the fear and horror. And I know there isn't a whole lot more I can do other than to stll be holding on when she comes through the storm. I know there will be further squabbles between us, but it feels like we've never talked through things through with anyone like this before. It was strange to have that very same thought at the same time.

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Monday, July 30, 2007 10:25 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


**Written before the NVG grievance airing. Gorram meeting. Will catch up on that next.**

Quote:

Originally posted by deepgirl187:
Actually, I'm at Saginaw Valley, JQ. And I'm patiently waiting to see how much they're going to gouge us for tuition this year. We should know after tomorrow. At least it's not the university doing it to us. *grumble, stupid Granholm, grumble*


12.9% is what I hear. Ima say “Holy katzenfrass!” That’s just too awful for words! Let’s improve our lot by turning out more uneddacated people to get all those gem jobs what’s left us. Bah! Hopes you continue in yer studies anyhow.
Quote:

Even JQ tentacle-y hugs are okay by me.

Quote:

Originally posted by RMMC:
Where you been hidin' them things? I certainly didn't see 'em when I saw you last...or were you loaning 'em out to local hockey fans?
*hugs Jonny* I just had to mess with ya, JQ.


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originally posted by Jonny Quest:
So, here I am with my hands behind my back the whole time 'cause I was trying to be a gentleman...Okay, girlie, the octopus gloves are officially off!!


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What movie scene is most like something in my life? I honestly cant think of anything. But then again, this is probably because I generally go see action-adventure, cartoons or non-gross horror.

I don’t see how we can grant an exclusion based on “action-adventure, cartoons or non-gross horror”: seems like they’d be natural fodder. Or am I more unlike y’all than I thought?
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Originally posted by Zeek:
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Originally posted by msg:
LOL Zeek- my former cheerleader status acts as a balancing agent for the nerd factor..


How long does that last? There's gotta be some sort of statute of limitations.


If there isn’t there oughtta be.



Butt, seriously, as long as gravity hasn’t bogarted the goods, I say “Jump, Shout, Let It All Out!” Besides, Zeek, our MsG is immune to the aging thing.

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Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Kinda pissed. Blew out the crotch of my favorite baggy jeans while picking up meds at Walgreens. Sucks 'cause a certain someone really likes them too. Crap.


Wow. There’s just too many ways to go with this. Word association is my choice.

Pissed – Crap
Blew – Sucks
Crotch – Baggy
Blew out the crotch of my favorite baggy jeans while picking up meds at Walgreens – Little Blue Pills?
A certain someone really likes them too – Maybe she’ll like them even more now.

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Originally posted by RugBug:
Being shy, with a natural 'get the f#@$ away from me' vibe means stuff like that usually isn't all that fun…msg: the shyness would still exist. The shyness is always there...even with some people I've known forever. It's not just 'new people' shyness. It's 'argh, I have to make conversation' shyness.'


So just sit there and look pretty. We’ll talk at and around you. Then again someone might mention horses and—whoops, where did the time go?





Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman
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Monday, July 30, 2007 10:57 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Hooboy! That's a mouthful alright. I think that MsG and RugBug have got it right though. There's a mess of turmoil in the the heart of your goil, and that makes it hard to maintain the serenity. I hate psycho-speak, but conflicted is such a useful word. Whatever Mindy and freak-husband had is gone. It's never easy to pronounce a dream DOA. No matter how shitty. Straight out simple: she doesn't want to have sex with you in order not to want to have sex with him. Switching the sex switch to "Off" altogether is easier than sex is okay with Joe but not okay with A$$hole. She needs simplicity right now. It's not that she wants to have sex with him, but she doesn't need the additional turmoil of sorting out her feelings for you from her feelings for him from her feeling the need to have sex, closeness, intimacy, being wanted by someone, etc. Dipshit goes home, relationship normalizes.

All of this and I haven't even gotten into the whole anxiety on her part with having to deal with him at all on any level. You know how you feel about him; imagine what she must feel. She lived it from the inside. *Yuck* She's just trying to get by. Maybe what she wants from you is something you can't give. You can't take away her past or its effects on her. You can only give her a hope for the future. If she's mad at you--crying mad--hold her. Tight. She's not mad at you. She's mad at the world, and you are a big part of her world so you get to hear it. Listen. And hug.

As for the groper, Brad Paisley has a song out called I'm Still a Guy. Here's a line that came into my head the instant I read your story:

I'll pour out my heart
Hold your hand in the car
Write a love song that makes you cry
Then turn right around knock some jerk to the ground
'Cause he copped a feel as you walked by"

The rest of the song is a hoot, as his frequently are, and maybe it's not a movie scene, but it sure sounds like real life.

(Besides you are the only person I have ever met that's admitted to watching Dumb and Dumberer. I choose not to believe it of you...)


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Monday, July 30, 2007 11:11 AM

MSG


Yeah I think it's important to say...guys are territorial in a way women are not( this is generalizing) they tend to take encroachment on their territory ( yes I know this sounds bad but really it's rather sweet) as a threat and respond as such. If a woman doesn't want that response in her guy...she needs to say it clearly and reinforce it.Otherwise accept that this is part of him ( the need to protect even when you don't need the protecting) and let it go... I am perfectly capable of smacking the crap out of a guy who gets too close etc, but I'm not upset with MisterG if he does it...as long as it doesn't get out of hand and a warning has been offered first. I don't have any issue with this...I realize this is somewhat oppositional to the feminist point of view...but that's just me.

That being said, she was incapacitated and that meant that she probably didn't see the evil coming as clearly...so good job Joe:)
As for the other. With all she's gone through and is going through in the last 6 months it's a wonder she knows her own name let alone what she really wants. Give her a bit to kick the slime to the curb and get her kids and herself stabilized and it should all go back to normal. Keep talking and communicating and discussing or whatever you want to call it...it'll work out

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Monday, July 30, 2007 12:08 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Y'all are just nailin' it right on the head today. Not sayin' I'm a know all, see all. But I needed someone, anyone to back up the things I've been thinking but until now haven't had the ability to vocalize much of it.

She is still a litlle mad at me for pointing out the teuth early this morning. As she put it, "I still love the hell outta you but I'm really not liking you right now. You are not my favorite person." Of course she had the strange happy/angry smirk so it can be read as pretty much the truth. I was "so harsh" when stating the truth. But half of it had to do with the shitty feeling I was left with after the whole thing. She is mad at herself for hurting me and mad at me for not trusting her. But I again stated that it is not her I don't trust. It is everyone else.

I guess we'll just have to see what happens.

(Terrible falling asleep fits at my desk right now.)


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Monday, July 30, 2007 1:08 PM

MSG


HUGS Joe sweety...hang in there darlin:) I hate to say this and I know you're all completely serious when you say " It's not you I don't trust it's them"...somehow it just feels like you don't trust us...likely because women are less trusting and if we're questioning or stepping in it's 'cause we don't trust the person...

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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 1:39 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


mornin' Imponderables.


I don't have much to add to the present discussion, other than I am glad that you didn't do anything to get you into any legal trouble. That'd be the last thing you need right now. Good that you guys are able to communicate about it, though, and I have confidence that all will be as it should in the end.

~jimi
We must all fear evil men, but there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men.

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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 4:14 AM

MSG


Morning all...so tired:) Magda and I just could not stop talking last night ...though it's such fun it's worth being tired now:)

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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 4:51 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


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Originally posted by msg:
guys are territorial in a way women are not( this is generalizing) they tend to take encroachment on their territory...as a threat and respond as such...


Generalizing or not, I think women are WAAAAAYYY more territorial than men. We deal with the threat and it's over. Unless it happens again, where we must reinforce the unlearned lesson. Women will carry the grudge to the grave, no hope of redemption. Also, unless we are sociopathic, we will only use necessary force; women will ferociously dive for either the jugular or at the least disfigurement.
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I'm not upset with MisterG if he does it...as long as it doesn't get out of hand and a warning has been offered first. I don't have any issue with this...I realize this is somewhat oppositional to the feminist point of view...but that's just me...I am perfectly capable of smacking the crap out of a guy who gets too close etc...

I rearranged you paragraph a little to point out that it doesn't really sound anti-feminist. At least by the newer definitions. You choose not to kick ass. The anti-feminist attitude would be to expect the man to do it. Which is really a form of man-hating, isn't it?
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Originally posted by nvghostrider:
But I again stated that it is not her I don't trust. It is everyone else.


A double-edged sword with serations. Beware and be wary. The cloaked phrase here is "Who cares about anyone else's trustworthiness, if you trust me? What can they do if I don't let them? If they do something against my will, it's not a matter of trust at all."
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(Terrible falling asleep fits at my desk right now.)

Have I mentioned that I will be going to the Sleep Clinic on the 8th?


Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman


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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:04 AM

MSG


HUGS Jonny:) See I hold no grudges ever and have no sense of territory ...once again I fail to fit the mold..oh well. I would agree about the holding grudges, but women are less likely to feel threatened when another woman smiles at their guy and such. That's what I meant by territorial. They don't perceive a threat with all interactions just ones in which the woman is acting suspicious or using certain tactics...Most men I know perceive any man interacting with their woman as a violation of their territory

Oh I'm sorry you're not sleeping well...that's icky. I hope the sleep people can help.

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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:24 AM

ZEEK


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Originally posted by msg:
See I hold no grudges ever


Not me. I hold grudges like they've got some sort of crazy return on investment. I'll hold grudges for years and years waiting for a good time for revenge. OK so I guess I'm kinda evil, but whatever just don't cross me and you're fine.

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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:33 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


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Originally posted by msg:
once again I fail to fit the mold


I hope you never do! Hugs right back atcha.
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but women are less likely to feel threatened when another woman smiles at their guy and such.

Maybe women are different out west. We got too much of the Gangsta mentality around here maybe...I dunno. But dem bitches dun git to riled in no time for any attention whatevah. (really bad countrified "Urban" or unbanized country; the sticks of Metro, what can I say.)'Course round here we're more apt to break out the box cutters than resort to subterfuge.
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Oh I'm sorry you're not sleeping well...that's icky. I hope the sleep people can help.

The sleep is good, it's the staying awake part that don't work so good. Which of course means the sleep part ain't workin' so good.
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Originally posted by Zeek:
I hold grudges like they've got some sort of crazy return on investment.


Laugh of the day. Good job, kid.


Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman


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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:43 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


*bursts in like a bolt from the blue*

Hey all

On territory... I'm pretty laid back. Don't mind my fella looking at other women, don't mind a little harmless flirting and don't even mind if he goes to a strip club for a bachelor party or something. As long as he treats me with respect, I'm happy.

If he cheats on me, however, I'm leaving. And I'm taking any pieces of anatomy I consider to be my property with me.

Kidding. But I don't tolerate cheating in a boyfriend. At all. Not even a drunken didn't realise what I was doing it was nothing kind of cheating. Cheat and I leave. And I expect the guy to have the same attitude towards me.

*edit* Oh, for those I've described my lower back tattoo to, I recently found the exact same pattern while browsing the net.



Mine's shaded in to give it sort of a 3d effect, but that's the same shape and pattern as mine Roughly the same size too, I think...






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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:53 AM

ZEEK


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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
*bursts in like a bolt from the blue*

Hey all

On territory... I'm pretty laid back. Don't mind my fella looking at other women, don't mind a little harmless flirting and don't even mind if he goes to a strip club for a bachelor party or something. As long as he treats me with respect, I'm happy.

If he cheats on me, however, I'm leaving. And I'm taking any pieces of anatomy I consider to be my property with me.

Kidding. But I don't tolerate cheating in a boyfriend. At all. Not even a drunken didn't realise what I was doing it was nothing kind of cheating. Cheat and I leave. And I expect the guy to have the same attitude towards me.


I approve of all of that. I think you should stop teaching computery stuff and start teaching women that there men should be free to go to strip clubs. Go and lead the revolution!

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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:53 AM

MSG


HUGS DTH so good to see you...how goes the job situation?
Wow great tat!!

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