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Mal's Coat

POSTED BY: LARKIN
UPDATED: Saturday, August 27, 2005 20:41
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Monday, March 8, 2004 5:06 PM

LARKIN


Hey! Do any of you fellow Browncoats know of a store that sells sommat close to Mal's coat?

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Monday, March 8, 2004 6:56 PM

SNEAKER98


I've been wanting to get a hold of one of those ;)

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Tuesday, March 9, 2004 5:07 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by Larkin:
Hey! Do any of you fellow Browncoats know of a store that sells sommat close to Mal's coat?

"Good drinker that one!"



This is where I got mine:

http://www.alamoleathers.com/genoldwestra.html

I got mine in the walnut (dark brown) color. It is very close to Mal's.

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Tuesday, March 9, 2004 7:54 AM

KUGELBLITZ


Day-umm there are some nice lookin duds on that site. I may have to get me one of those rifle frock coats. I have been looking for one for a while now.

MAL Which one you figure tracked us?

ZOE The ugly one, sir.

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Tuesday, March 9, 2004 1:06 PM

RYSH1


Another good place to look is Half moon leathers.
Just do a websearch on Half moon leathers and you should get their website first shot.
They do great work.
They do custom work.
They do leather and wool.
I am betting they can turn out alot of browncoats, And maybe a few companion outfits besides.

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Tuesday, March 9, 2004 3:14 PM

LARKIN


Huh, so a Western Store, eh? I've got one just a few miles down the road. Makes sense, seeings as how it's a western in space type-thing. Thanks for the learnin

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Tuesday, March 9, 2004 3:16 PM

ECMORGAN69


IMHO, his coat looked a lot more like a 3/4-length brown wool coat, not leather. That could just be me, though...

They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....

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Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:17 AM

LODRIL


It's definitely leather... looks like the suede side is out, because if you look at the cuffs at the arms, they're a shinier leather on the inside of the cuff.

The real trick is those two clasps at the front. I can't seem to find them anywhere. It actually looks more like a 'pirate' type coat than a western one, considering the clasps and the way the sleeves are cuffed.

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Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:26 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by Lodril:
It's definitely leather... looks like the suede side is out, because if you look at the cuffs at the arms, they're a shinier leather on the inside of the cuff.

The real trick is those two clasps at the front. I can't seem to find them anywhere. It actually looks more like a 'pirate' type coat than a western one, considering the clasps and the way the sleeves are cuffed.



I have not been able to find the clasps either. I have looked at dozens of different types online, but have found nothing close yet.

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Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:25 AM

ECMORGAN69


Quote:

Originally posted by Lodril:
It's definitely leather... looks like the suede side is out, because if you look at the cuffs at the arms, they're a shinier leather on the inside of the cuff.

The real trick is those two clasps at the front. I can't seem to find them anywhere. It actually looks more like a 'pirate' type coat than a western one, considering the clasps and the way the sleeves are cuffed.



Ok, I did the intelligent thing for a change and looked at Mal's picture on the DVD case...

Yep, looks like suede to me too. That coat would totally kick ass to own for yourself

They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....

Oh yeah, you, FOX TV!!

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Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:52 AM

GETUPKID


no its not leather or wool belive me, its a swade coat.

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Monday, June 14, 2004 11:02 AM

CHUCKYBONES


This isn't exactly Mal's coat, but it's pretty close, and for around $150:

http://www.wwmerc.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=3150&item=564589&t
ype=store


Does anyone know what the legality would be of having someone set up to product Mal's ACTUAL coat, and sell it? Who would have the copyright on that, Mutant Enemy or the Hated Fox Network?

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Monday, June 14, 2004 11:23 AM

STARPILOTGRAINGER


I too kinda wish I had Mal's coat. I mean, I do have a brown coat, and I'm quite fond of it, but it's not quite as shiny as Mal's.

Then again, I probably couldn't pull off wearing that coat without looking dumb.

And anyway, first thing's first, I need to get me a Blue Sun t-shirt when I get some extra cash. :)


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Monday, June 14, 2004 12:45 PM

SNEAKER98


Well, my coat came via FedEx a week ago. I ordered this one:

http://www.adamleathers.com/genoldwestra.html

In the walnut colour. I gotta say, the colours are BANG ON! The material isnt what I excepted... more like a jeans-type, with the cuffs being courdurouy. But I love it :) I'm getting it altered soon so that its around the dimensions of mal's coat.

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Tuesday, June 15, 2004 7:26 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by sneaker98:
Well, my coat came via FedEx a week ago. I ordered this one:

http://www.adamleathers.com/genoldwestra.html

In the walnut colour. I gotta say, the colours are BANG ON! The material isnt what I excepted... more like a jeans-type, with the cuffs being courdurouy. But I love it :) I'm getting it altered soon so that its around the dimensions of mal's coat.

"I do the job... and then I get paid. Go run your little world."
-Malcolm Reynolds



That is the one that I bought. The color is close enough to not really concern oneself over. The length is a about 6-8 inches longer than Mal's coat, but you can always have it altered which is what I plan to do. The material is canvas (which is historically accurate for the period) but it is durable. I am very happy w/ mine.

If someone ever did produce one exactly like Mal's I would buy it.

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Friday, July 2, 2004 9:56 PM

KOHAN


http:// firefly.deadly-nightshade.net/images/promopics/group09.jpg

this is a pretty clear picture of Mal's coat, it looks pretty thin.

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Saturday, July 3, 2004 2:23 AM

SPIKESMORTICIA


Quote:

Originally posted by sneaker98:
Well, my coat came via FedEx a week ago. I ordered this one:

http://www.adamleathers.com/genoldwestra.html

In the walnut colour. I gotta say, the colours are BANG ON! The material isnt what I excepted... more like a jeans-type, with the cuffs being courdurouy. But I love it :) I'm getting it altered soon so that its around the dimensions of mal's coat.



I keep looking at this coat, but I just can't make myself like it. It just doesn't look enough like Mal's coat to me.

Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:That is the one that I bought. The color is close enough to not really concern oneself over. The length is a about 6-8 inches longer than Mal's coat, but you can always have it altered which is what I plan to do. The material is canvas....


Probably one of the reasons I don't like this particular coat. I definitely want to find one that has the same texture and look to it. I've got to put my shiny new patches somewhere!!

Quote:

If someone ever did produce one exactly like Mal's I would buy it.



I am so with you on that one!! I would have to have it altered too since I'm a on the short side. Had the same problem when I went in search of Spike's duster and had to settle for a short leather coat. But oh well, I'm not gonna settle on this one. Gotta have the suede/leather look and wonderful brown color.

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Saturday, July 3, 2004 5:15 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by SpikesMorticia:
I would have to have it altered too since I'm a on the short side. Had the same problem when I went in search of Spike's duster and had to settle for a short leather coat.

Same boat here. Fortunately the "short" billowy coat hangs just past my knees. I've had someone tell me I look like Angel though, so if a plan's gonna backfire, at least it's going in the right direction.

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Saturday, July 3, 2004 6:25 AM

DEBBIEBUK1


Does anyone know where Zoe's coat is from, in some ways it looks quite modern, and I bet it was adjusted to fit Gina properly, but it doesn't look the same sort of thing to me as Mal's

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 12:12 PM

KOHAN


I'd even settle for the one that tom cruse was wearing for The Last Samurai it doesn't look exactally like it, but it does give out the same feel...


wait... tom cruse is also a browncoat??!

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Saturday, July 24, 2004 12:44 PM

HELL'S KITTEN


I got bored and threw this together real quick. I still need to finish them hem & collar and fabricate better clasps, but here it is anyway. I put a photo of Mal in his coat next to it for comparison. My crappy camera didn't quite pick up all the detail, but I think you get the general idea. If you see something that's not quite right, please let me know... I'd like to get this as right as possible.


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Sunday, July 25, 2004 8:17 AM

SPIKESMORTICIA


SHINY!!!

It looks pretty good to me, although I do agree with the clasps, they really stand out. Perhaps a more burnished gold finish would blend in better.

Did you make the coat?? I'm so jealous. I've been looking all over the internet and can't find anything that even comes close to what I want.

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Sunday, July 25, 2004 1:06 PM

STEAMEDBAO3


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
I got bored and threw this together real quick. I still need to finish them hem & collar and fabricate better clasps, but here it is anyway. I put a photo of Mal in his coat next to it for comparison. My crappy camera didn't quite pick up all the detail, but I think you get the general idea. If you see something that's not quite right, please let me know... I'd like to get this as right as possible.




What Type of fabric did you use and where did you get it. It looks great. I have been wanting to make one myself for awhile.

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Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:07 PM

APEX


The jacket Adam Baldwin wears during his rendition of "The Hero of Canton" on the DVD seems to be made of the same material as (or one very similar to) Mal's coat.

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Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:17 PM

RELFEXIVE


Some suggest suede would work; others say that's too heavy and calfskin would be better.

In this case I couldn't say, cos I've not seen the real thing.

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Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:18 PM

LARKIN


Well the thing is that it's got to be able to blow in the wind. That kinda narrows down the material a bit there.

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Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:25 PM

WILLOWY


Wow it looks so good! A couple suggestions, like the poster above said, the clasps really stand out, maybe take some sandpaper to them...and the cuffs look black, while Mal's in the picture look light brown...

That's it though, good job, it looks SHINY!

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Thursday, August 19, 2004 2:32 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
I got bored and threw this together real quick. I still need to finish them hem & collar and fabricate better clasps, but here it is anyway. I put a photo of Mal in his coat next to it for comparison. My crappy camera didn't quite pick up all the detail, but I think you get the general idea. If you see something that's not quite right, please let me know... I'd like to get this as right as possible.




No ruttin' way! That is one shiny looking coat Hell's Kitten. Did you make it? You have to tell us how you did it or where you got the materials. You are sitting on a gold mine! If that jacket could be reproduced dozens if not hundreds of Browncoats from all the boards would happily part w/ money for one of their own.

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Thursday, August 19, 2004 5:07 PM

LJOSALF


Well, from what I have been able to glean from stepping through Serenity (White Fall scenes), Trash (opening scenes), and the Train Job (opening scenes), there's this to say about the construction:
The coat very much appears to be sueded leather. It has the weight of leather and seems to have the hand as well. Except for the cuffs, it appears to be sueded on both sides; so it is likely a split (a single cowhide is often split into two pieces by shearing the outside hide from the inside hide. The inside hide "half" will always be sueded or rough on both sides. This provides a rough hewn, frontier look to this particular garment.) The back is very clearly made up of a yoke above and a mid-back piece below. The sleeves join not at the side seam but about 1/4 - 1/3 of the way up the back of the armhole; this seam is either meant to abut the bottom seam of the yoke or very nearly so. The sleeve looks to my moderately practiced eye like the style you get in men's suits only not quite as fitted. I think that there are two narrow side/back panels that have a slight hour glass shape to them giving the coat a bit of flare at the bottom, a very mild waist effect and providing a smidge more ease across the shoulders; these panels appear to attach to the front pieces in a standard side seam at the underarm. But I may be mistaken on this last point because on White Fall you can clearly see from the inside how the side slits are faced and there doesn't appear to be any seam going up from the top of the slits. The collar appears to be about 1 to 1 1/2 inches wide and the front pieces appear to overlap by about the same amount producing a notched lapel look. I haven't yet decide on the depth of the cuffs or the width and shaping of the sleeves although the sleeve is definitely not as fitted as a standard suit sleeve.

I managed to pick up a lovely cow's worth of brown leather for under $100. It's not double sueded but has a great distressed bomber jacket finish and some strategically placed holes that will incorporate nicely as shot damage. I'm looking forward to running up a browncoat for an air support gunner for my husband. I figure the different units not to mention service branches would have different interpretations of what a browncoat should look like.

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Friday, August 26, 2005 8:44 AM

DOCARCANE


there is a company that makes knockoff of holywood costumes that is offering a 'Browncoat' coat...

http://www.abbyshot.com/

... but they want $450 buck for it.

I went with Internatinal Male's 'Westgate Suede Trench II'

http://tinyurl.com/cg2a2

It's only $140 bucks and looks pretty good. and, the way I figure it... a rag-tag unit like the Browncoats -- they ain't got no tailor that's gonna go make sure all their coats are the same-like.

P.S. IM's 'London Opera Vest' would make a darn good Simon vest too...

http://tinyurl.com/7vhzy



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Friday, August 26, 2005 3:16 PM

RETRO


Hmmm... I'm torn between saving my money for the Abbyshot and the Westgate. The Abby looks so much cooler, so much more real, but I'm not sure I can part with $450 for a piece of my Halloween Costume. I live in AZ. A trenchcoat doesn't get a lot of use out here.

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Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:41 PM

R1Z


Somewhere there's a post saying that, per the costumer, Mal's brown coat is deerskin.

Of course I can't find it now.

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