GENERAL DISCUSSIONS

ARE YOU F*%KING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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Friday, February 18, 2005 4:02 AM

STATIC


"BUZZ BUNNY"???

"LASER BEAM EYES"?????

GRRRRRRRRR!!! OOHHHHHHHHH!!! (GRUMBLES INCOHERENTLY, UNABLE TO FORM WORDS)

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Friday, February 18, 2005 4:06 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...


What in the good gorram...?

What in the hell are they thinking?

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Friday, February 18, 2005 4:19 AM

SNIPER


Oh for frack's sake. That looks horrible.

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Friday, February 18, 2005 4:45 AM

FREMDFIRMA


I can only hope this is a sad, sick joke.

And if it's not, their studio soon will be.

-F

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Friday, February 18, 2005 4:46 AM

BARNEYT


Did I lose track of time, is it April Fools Day?


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Friday, February 18, 2005 5:01 AM

KAYLEE4SIMON


My eyes! My eyes! It burns!!!!!!

Buzz bunny? What the heck? And he doesn't even have a carrot!

Keep shiny!

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Friday, February 18, 2005 5:12 AM

VOLSTOCK


I'm just glad Mel Blanc is already dead (not really cause now theres no one to do Bob and Dougs Dads voice in a sequel to Strange Brew), cause this would f'ing kill him.



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Friday, February 18, 2005 5:15 AM

KNIBBLET


So, is 'Buzz' going to pop up out of a hole in the earth, laze something to ashes with his eyes and declare that he should have 'taken a left turn at Whitefall'?

What a frelling goat rope.

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Friday, February 18, 2005 5:17 AM

CASUALTY


I just heard about this on the radio about five mins before I logged on here! The DJ was laughing so much he could barely get the words out. I thought he was kidding! Apparantly not.

It's at times like this that I wonder how the world is still turning on its axis. Times like this and when they cancel my favorite TV show. Grrrr!

"If nothing we do means anything then the only thing that means anything is what we do"

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Friday, February 18, 2005 5:24 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


There is a special hell reserved for those that would take a cartoon Icon and turn them into something so ridiculous.

I hope they take the express shuttle to the special hell.

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Friday, February 18, 2005 6:09 AM

RAT


I think WB has a problem with there (hehe)"Brain" being missing!

-Ratboy

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Friday, February 18, 2005 6:20 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Well Cartoons often evolve over time. Bugs has been evolving since he was first created. The original is totally different to the one I'm familiar with of the sixties and seventies... So I don't think it's that big a deal.

When he started his eyes were a lot bigger and his mouth was a lot wider... But over time they've refined him to what we know and love - He's never had a definitive design from the start.

Same with Tom and Jerry. They were very different when the were first created. I seem to remember Tom was a dark muddy colour to begin with.

It all depends in what era you grew up watching them.

That said I don't particulalry like the look of the new design - but then it's maybe what the kids want these days.

Who knows.

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Friday, February 18, 2005 7:21 AM

ZEEK


That's just disgusting. Laser eyes and martial arts? What is wrong with the executives these days.

The reason TV ratings are dying is because there are no more classics on TV anymore. There's no Family Ties or Cosby show or anything that even compares. Sad sad sad.

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Friday, February 18, 2005 7:54 AM

CHANNAIN

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to... wubba... who?

Okay, that's just wrong. They made Buzz entirely too scary lookin'

And yet I'm strangely compelled to check it out and see just how wrong it is. Does that seem right to you?

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Friday, February 18, 2005 8:13 AM

COSMICFUGITIVE


Is it 'silly season' already?

First they change the shape of the packaging on the Smarties tubes and now this?


It's all mad!

Seriously though, it's a crazy idea.
It doesn't look right... The updated Daffy, Road Runner, and Tazmanian Devil look weird too...


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Friday, February 18, 2005 8:32 AM

THEGREYJEDI


Changing Bugs for the kids?! Did he actually use the words "cool" and "hip?" How stereotypically unqualified is he when it comes to the knowledge of children?!

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Friday, February 18, 2005 8:35 AM

BADGERSHAT


They pretty much did what all the other studios did--they looked at what other people did that was successful, and copied it.

Seems to me, there's a huge similiarity, VISUALLY, between this new "re-imagining" and some of the stuff on Cartoon Network, like "Samurai Jack" and others like it.

Ba$ically, they're looking to increa$e the appeal of the exi$ting franchi$e$ by updating the face$ for new generation$ to come.

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Friday, February 18, 2005 8:38 AM

JADEHAND


Buzz? Buzz?

Buzz?

what is that?
It's the sound of Mel Blanc Spinning in his grave.


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Friday, February 18, 2005 8:47 AM

PHOEBE


Bugs Bunny is a monster *cries* How could they do this to us? Its enough to give the poor children nightmares. Its giving me nightmares, and I'm not a child.

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Friday, February 18, 2005 10:08 AM

NERVOUSPETE


Quote:

Originally posted by TheGreyJedi:
Changing Bugs for the kids?! Did he actually use the words "cool" and "hip?" How stereotypically unqualified is he when it comes to the knowledge of children?!



Enter their wacky, in your face with attitude new hipster Poochie, stage left!

Awesome!

TO THE MAX!

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P.S: Wondering why he still cares in the sacred value of art and storytelling, when those who control the well shit in it.

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Friday, February 18, 2005 10:17 AM

THEDARKSHAPE


I saw this on the news a couple nights ago. Even the anchors couldn't resist saying how terrible the redesign is. A field reporter went out and found a 6-year-old child and showed him a picture. The kid's response? "That looks like evil Bugs Bunny!"

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Friday, February 18, 2005 11:25 AM

MANIACNUMBERONE


They already did Looney Tunes in the future... it was called duck dodgers, and it was a success. That's where we got marvin martian from. Anyhow, I see no need to change the look of bugs. Just give him a spiffy space suit.

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Friday, February 18, 2005 12:38 PM

NEEDLESEYE


I'm sure Warner Brothers was looking to bring itself up to date to compete with some of the newer cartoons.
I think that recycling Bugs and his cohorts is pretty bad, really they should just introduce a new group of characters. Also the name Buzz Bunny is a bad idea. There's already Buzz Lightyear, hullo!?

Laser beam eyes, thats for bad guys.
How could anybunny be so evil?

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Friday, February 18, 2005 1:17 PM

SIGMANUNKI


Refining is one thing, but this?!?!?!?!? WTF?!?!?!?! I wish I could kill this idea with my brain.

*mumbling*moneygrubbingsonsofbi.....*/mumbling*

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Friday, February 18, 2005 1:23 PM

MONTANAGIRL


I can't even begin to describe how hideous those things are. I'm scared of them, and I'm not a kid. All I can say is "What the HELL were they thinking?!"

Packer fans welcome.
All others tolerated.

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Friday, February 18, 2005 5:43 PM

SGTGUMP


It's just one more sign of the impending apocalypse.

"But I'm tryin' Ringo, I'm tryin' real hard to be the Shepard." - Jules

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Friday, February 18, 2005 6:19 PM

EBONEZER


*CRIES*

WHYYYYYYYY????!!!!!!!

*Looks franticly around for pool table to crawl under before she realizes she's in the wrong thread.*

*Sob*

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Friday, February 18, 2005 9:07 PM

THEREALME


* A spot of light appears in this thread. It expands to become a dark void surrounded by a ring of fire. From this hole in reality appears The Real Me dragging a pool table. *

Ebo! I'm here!

* The Real Me drags the pool table into this thread, then dives under it himself. He shivers with fear. *

Downright CREEPIFYING!


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Friday, February 18, 2005 10:19 PM

DTUCK


*sigh*

Sad.

Why do big companies think that for something to succeed, it must be 'hip' and 'cool' and 'new'? It pains me to see classic characters broken down and rehashed into something like this.

Got room for me under that table, ebo?


(Honestly... BUZZ BUNNY!?!?! WTF?)

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:55 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by BadgersHat:
Seems to me, there's a huge similiarity, VISUALLY, between this new "re-imagining" and some of the stuff on Cartoon Network, like "Samurai Jack" and others like it.

On behalf of The Samurai, I feel compelled to point out that those shows are actually innovative, and good.

As, in all honesty, is Duck Dodgers in the 24 1/2 Century. Why can't they just shoehorn Bugs and the others into that?

Let me be the one to say that I have little love for Looney Tunes (due in large part to Teletoon's devoting over 72 hours a week to them ), but this. . . This is just derivative, insulting, and stupid, and. . . just wrong.

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:02 AM

THEGREYJEDI


I'm with Snark. Samurai Jack is a really good cartoon. Great story and really impressive art, especially for a cartoon. Stylized, yes, but, well, stylishly so. I wish Cartoon Network, a Time WARNER(as in the Brothers) would devote a little more time in their daytime line up to classic Looney Tunes. Lots of garbage like Ozzy and Drix, the cartoon spin off of the movie Osmosis Jones. Which royally sucks, whereas the movie was at least tolerable.

And for the love of Pete, can someone in cahoots with AOL Time Warner PLEASE get them to put the Animaniacs back on the air somewhere? That show was amazingly brilliant. And maybe Hysteria too. Even Tiny Toons. Or Taz-Mania. Those were 'new' and 'cool' without making utter poo-doo of the characters.

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:30 AM

CORNCOBB


Oh my god. What the hell? What the f*^kin hell?! That is a monstrosity.

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:37 AM

SAMWIBATT


Now, now, this too shall pass. While I think the "Buzz" idea blows major goatage, it may not be the worst thing that's happened to Bugs - wasn't he pressed into service to do hygiene films and ranting anti-Nazi, anti-"Jap" stuff in WWII? Anyone who's seen "Coal Black and De Sebben Dwarfs" knows that Warner has done things not to be proud of.

I'm guessing this silliness will blow over like when Heinz tried to interest kids in green ketchup. (That didn't catch on, did it?)

On edit: Oh, dear Lord, on the ketchup thing I think I'm horribly wrong. THIS is definitely horribly wrong:

http://www.crazyforbargains.com/heezsqkecobo.html

I'm going to go hide under my bed and hope that Buzz Bunny doesn't burn my house down with his LASER EYES.

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 12:30 PM

ALIENZOOKEEPER


The wrong universe, but we definitely need Garibaldi on this one. Maybe we can convince Mal it's an indepenedent cause, get him to combine forces with the Folks from B-5 to take back the studio...

I have one word for the WB Executives-

Defenestration!

Vince

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 12:32 PM

DECKROID


What in the name of all that was holy are they doing?!?

GAAAAAAA!

GA! I... GAAAA!... What... GAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

NUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

"/uncontrolable shaking"

*sigh* Yup. I just checked. This is the 5th sign of the Apocolypse. Don't worry. It'll all be over soon, now.


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Saturday, February 19, 2005 12:39 PM

BRUISERSMOM


Dear God! Bugs becomes the prism through which I see social change for the worse. Here comes gangsta Bugs!

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 1:51 PM

NYTSHAD


I would like to point out that not matter how "x-treme" these cartoons become, the female supporting characters are still wearing pink ribbons in their hair.

How lame.


Teen Titans rock and that's why everyone wants to be like them.

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Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:11 PM

ISROUSRO


Worse than New Coke and I hope this so called idea has a mean time to failure of one week.

passionately indifferent

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Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:56 AM

WEISS337


Two words: preview video

http://www.toonamiarsenal.com/misc/lf/LoonaticsPreview.mov
...I'd laugh if it weren't so pathetic.

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Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:01 PM

SIGMANUNKI


Quote:

Originally posted by Weiss337:

http://www.toonamiarsenal.com/misc/lf/LoonaticsPreview.mov



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I've died a little inside. *sniffle* *wipes away tear*

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Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:03 PM

RAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Weiss337:
Two words: preview video

http://www.toonamiarsenal.com/misc/lf/LoonaticsPreview.mov
...I'd laugh if it weren't so pathetic.



Wow, I didn't think it would be any good, but after seeing that, I can't wait!!

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...To see WB go bust!

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Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:07 PM

DBLADE


Call me crazy, but I think I will actually wait to see an episode before passing judgement. I'm a sucker for superheroes.

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Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:19 PM

SIGMANUNKI


Quote:

Originally posted by dblade:

Call me crazy, but I think I will actually wait to see an episode before passing judgement. I'm a sucker for superheroes.



If they wanted to create a new show then they should've made it with new characters instead of these horrid mutations.

Is nothing sacred anymore?

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Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:03 PM

STATIC


Not only should they have used original characters, but for goodness sake, is EVERYTHING animated in the same "flash" style now? Everything looks like cheap internet downloads a-la OTV from a couple of years ago. . .'Battle Angel', 'Bulletproof Diva' and stuff like that.

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Monday, February 21, 2005 6:34 PM

DBLADE


Quote:

Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Quote:

Originally posted by dblade:

Call me crazy, but I think I will actually wait to see an episode before passing judgement. I'm a sucker for superheroes.



If they wanted to create a new show then they should've made it with new characters instead of these horrid mutations.

Is nothing sacred anymore?

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Well, I've never considered anything sacred. Some fans of the old Battlestar Galactica will never accept the new, even though I consider it one of the best scifi shows around (firefly is still numero uno though). I'm glad the creators of the new BSG didn't consider it sacred and untouchable. I'm just saying I actually judge a show after I watch it rather than speculating from snippets and what not. I actually don't believe they are trying to replace the old with the new. They are just trying something different with familiar characters. It may fall on its face but I will wait to pass judgement.

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Monday, February 21, 2005 6:46 PM

DBLADE


Have you actually seen an animated clip or are you talking about the internet preview that is probably just a Flash file made for advertising purposes?

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Monday, February 21, 2005 8:37 PM

SIGMANUNKI


I as well love the new BSG. The acting is better than anything I've seen in a long time, effects are better than anything I've seen... you get the idea.


I'm not saying that they can't touch Bugs and the gang. I'm just saying that since there is a long standing "what they are," they can't do certain things. I believe that some of those certain things is entirely re-inventing the character. Which is what they've done here.

IMO, if you are going to re-invent a character to the degree found here, then just invent a new one. Which could've been easily done given the radical new context (relitively speaking), etc.


I've also never stated that this show will suck. I've only stated that they should never have done what they've done to these characters. There is a difference.


You stated, "...probably just a Flash file..."

Well perhaps you should've actually viewed it yourself before asking such a question. If you would've, you would know that it is a .mov that is a commercial for the show. This is far from just some flash file.


I, like you, (although I would think that you wouldn't think this given your comments toward me) will not pass judgement on the show. I just pass judgement [n]on the people who made the horror of a decision (IMO) to do the horrible things to these characters and what they have done to these characters. Again, there is a difference.

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Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:20 AM

CAPNRAHN


If they change the names are they still the same characters?

Not really. Also being set in the "future" {post or pre Duck Dodgers?} also changes things ... hummm, do I sense knee-jerk reactions? Coooooould Beeeee!

Don't like it before you experance it? Ahhh ... prejudging at its finest!

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Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:21 AM

STATIC


Quote:

Originally posted by CapnRahn:
If they change the names are they still the same characters?

Not really.



You know. . .you're right in one way, but in another. . .it would be like doing a show that features a blonde-haired teenage/early college age girl who, through the use of martial arts, kills WEREWOLVES, and name her "Muffy".

Or a crew of interplanetary smugglers led by a guy who wears a long BLACK coat and his name is "Hal Reynolds".

You know?



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Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:54 AM

CAPNRAHN


So? Muffy may be Buffy's long lost auntie and Hal may be Mal's Daddy!

The original 'Bugs'and crew are still there - and on DVD even - unmolested. The "new show" changes nothing of the past Loony Toons - they are even changing the 'global' name to 'Loonitics' {however it is spelled}. The nay-sayers are still prejudging and appear very narrow-minded.

Point is this: Someone else OWNS the rights to the characters and whatnot - they have the right to do with it as they want. Want something to stay the same - buy it and insure NOONE else has any rights to the subject in any form of media...

{example: Brian Henson and his sister bought back ALL of Henson Production items for the hefty tune of 84mil}

...wait, could that be considered a tad akin to censorship?

BSG 2003 went the right direction - we can only hope 'Loonitics' follows it on that higher road.

I think some folks like to get their pants in a twist over minor things to spice up their day!

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