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Looks like it's getting a pretty high rating on rotten tomatoes. I mean most of the reviews sound like it's a 3 out of 5 stars, but passable. In the end I guess who cares what the actress says if the movie is good, right? I think I'll go see it.

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Did you read the earlier posts of this thread, pointing out that CM rating on RT was so horrendous that RT had to revamp their entire system to artificially reverse the rating for CM, and deleted possibility of audience input?

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Looks like it's getting a pretty high rating on rotten tomatoes. I mean most of the reviews sound like it's a 3 out of 5 stars, but passable. In the end I guess who cares what the actress says if the movie is good, right? I think I'll go see it.

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Did you read the earlier posts of this thread, pointing out that CM rating on RT was so horrendous that RT had to revamp their entire system to artificially reverse the rating for CM, and deleted possibility of audience input?

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Yeah but that's the audience score not the critic's score. And it was an audience who had zero opportunity to have actually seen the movie. So, it had nothing to do with the actual movie.

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Other Metacritic aggregates for comparison.

Iron Man (79/C+): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/iron-man
Thor (57/F)
Black Panther (88/B+): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/black-panther
Guardians of the Galaxy (76/C): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/guardians-of-the-galaxy
Ant Man (64/D): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/ant-man
Wonder Woman (76/C): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/wonder-woman
Avengers (69/D+): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-avengers-2012
Avengers: Age of Ultron (66/D): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/avengers-age-of-ultron
Avengers: Infinity War (68/D+): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/avengers-infinity-war


Older comic book movies:

X-Men (64/D): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/x-men
Spider-Man (73/C-): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/spider-man
Spider-Man 2 (83/B-): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/spider-man-2
Batman (Keaton) (69/D+): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/batman
Batman Begins (Bale) (70/C-): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/batman-begins

It should be noted that when you look at a legitimate review aggregate like Metacritic, comic book movies don't tend to do very well overall since, if said film doesn't have a political message/agenda, the genre usually doesn't fair well overall in the critic community.

Would it be fair to say that Black Panther was the greatest comic book super hero movie ever made? Of course, I'll leave that for you to decide for yourself, but if we're to go only by critics reviews, that would look to be the case by a pretty wide margin. The only other one I could find that was in the 80's at all was Spider-Man 2.



Anyhow... Captain Marvel right now is rated just under Age of Ultron, even with all of the hype and claims that it's a movie about Feminism, and it's so important for women to see that there have been several successful kickstarter campaigns to raise money to buy tickets for underprivileged girls in bad communities to be treated to this wonderful Girl Power blockbuster that will change the world.

But it scores lower than Age of Ultron... Sandwitched in between AoU and Ant Man with a perfect "D" score of 65.

Age of Ultron was the last straw for me. I've tuned out of comic book movies ever since then. Mindless entertainment for people who are looking for mindless entertainment.


EDITED TO ADD: I added Wonder Woman's metacritic score. A 76, the same as Guardians of the Galaxy. I have not seen a DC movie since the 2nd Christian Bale Batman, so I couldn't compare the two, but even at a 76, Guardians was probably my favorite comic book movie out of the 8 or so that I've seen that weren't Keaton/Bale Batman flicks which were head and shoulders above any other comic property, IMO. (Of which Keaton's first only rated 69 and Bale's first only rated 70)

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I was hoping you would post comparison scores for films without female empowerment, like Aliens, Terminator 2, Buffy, Serenity, Resident Evil, Fast & Furious, Fifth Element, Aeon Flux, Ultraviolet, Hanna, Kick Ass, Alita, Catwoman, Widows, Oceans 8, Atomic Blonde, Red Sparrow, Hunger Games, Underworld, etc.
At least you included Wonder Woman, and no need for Ghostbusters Femme.

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Widows. Recent, with Viola Davis.

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The Long Kiss Goodnight (44/F): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-long-kiss-goodnight
Annihilation (79/C+): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/annihilation
The Professional (64/D): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-professional
Arrival (81/B-): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/arrival


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The Long Kiss Goodnight (44/F): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-long-kiss-goodnight
Annihilation (79/C+): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/annihilation
The Professional (64/D): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-professional
Arrival (81/B-): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/arrival
Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace (51/F): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/star-wars-episode-i---the-phantom-men
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Rogue One (65/D): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story
Tomb Raider (2001) (33/F): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/lara-croft-tomb-raider
Tomb Raider (2018) (48/F): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/tomb-raider
Ex Machina (78/C+): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/ex-machina
Salt (65/D): https://www.metacritic.com/movie/salt

Point of Return (???): No metacritic score
(It's Point of No Return, with Fonda, but still no score)


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It is the height of preposterous ratings that Annihilation is higher than Edge of Tomorrow, Rogue One, Wind River, Terminator 2, Galaxy Quest.

Annihilation distributed by Paramount.

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It is the height of preposterous ratings that Annihilation is higher than Edge of Tomorrow, Rogue One, Wind River, Terminator 2, Galaxy Quest.

Annihilation distributed by Paramount.

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It's all agenda driven, and largely BS... That's the whole point of my exercise here.

Let's rate them now by their ranking.

100:
Citizen Kane (100) ... most boring POS to slog through that was ever put on the screen...

IN THE 90'S:
Star Wars (90)

IN THE 80'S:
Black Panther (88)
Brazil (88)
Ghost World (88)
The Little Mermaid (88)
Thelma & Louise (88)
Up (88)
Quiz Show (88)
Toy Story 2 (88)
Mary Poppins (88)
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (87)
Superman II (87)
Aliens (84)
Spider-Man 2 (83)
Kill Bill 2 (83)
Arrival (81)
Superman (80)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV Show) (80)


IN THE 70'S:
Annihilation (79)
Iron Man (79)
Ex Machina (78)
Wonder Woman (76)
Guardians of the Galaxy (76)
Hunger Games: Catching Fire (76)
Terminator 2 (75)
Serenity (74)
Spider-Man (73)
Wind River (73)
Ghostbusters (1984) (71)
Edge of Tomorrow (71)
Batman Begins (70)
Galaxy Quest (70)



IN THE 60'S:
Batman (1989) (69)
Kill Bill 1 (69)
Avengers (69)
Jurassic Park (68)
Hunger Games (68)
Avengers: Infinity War (68)
Kick Ass (66)
Avengers: Age of Ultron (66)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (65)
Rogue One (65)
The Client (65)
Salt (65)
Hunger Games: Mocking Jay 2 (65)
Hanna (65)
Captain Marvel (64)
Jackie Brown (64)
The Professional (64)
Fried Green Tomatoes (64)
X-Men (64)
Hunger Games: Mocking Jay 1 (64)
Ant Man (64)
Atomic Blonde (63)
Firefly (TV Show) (63)
Fast and the Furious 6 (61)
Ocean's 8 (61)
Ghostbusters (2016) (60)



IN THE 50'S:
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (58)
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (58)
Fast and the Furious (58)
The Thing (57)
Thor (57)
Ghostbusters II (56)
Alita: Battle Angel (54)
The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc (54)
Red Sparrow (53)
The Fifth Element (52)
Star Wars: Episode 1 (51)


IN THE 40'S:
The Thing (2011) (49)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Movie) (48)
Tomb Raider (2018) (48)
The Long Kiss Goodnight (44)
Underworld (42) (highest Underworld was 44)
Kick Ass 2 (41)



IN THE 30'S:
Resident Evil (33)
Tomb Raider 2001 (33)



IN THE 20'S:
Catwoman (27)


IN THE TEENS:
Ultraviolet (18)



Nothing in the single digits.



That list ought to find plenty of things to piss people off.


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I just read some backstory.

Supposed to be some elite female Fighter Squadron Pilots in the mid 1990s. I didn't know this was supposed to be a comedy. Sure, they had enough sense to make it Air Farce, which didn't have quite so many female Pilot disasters, but c'mon - Elite Fighters?

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Yeah. We're old dudes now. The 90's is that same mythical time to the kids growing up today that the 60's and 70's were to me. In my experience it's not until you reach your early to mid thirties that you realize that was really just yesterday.

History doesn't mean anything to people with money and an agenda. I'm sure a lot of kids are going to leave Captain Marvel believing there were elite fighter squads made up of nothing but women in the ancient days of late last century.

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I'm late again
Got a lower grade today than yesterday
You hate me
That's why you don't care what I have to say
And I try
But my running sucks
And I try
But I hate doing gym class
I, I play guitar
But in your class
That won't get me far
Please give me a "C"
So that I can be
Finally out of P.E.
I'm never gonna win a medal
But maybe a grammy
You don't care
You just wanna make sure that you fail me
In my mind
I'm so far away
In my mind
I made a mistake
I, I play guitar
But in your class
That won't get me far
Please give me a "C"
So that I can be
Finally out of P.E.
You may think I'm just a troublemaker
But I have talent you can't see
Just because I'm not athletic
Doesn't mean that you can degrade me
I show up, shouldn't that be enough
I, I play guitar
But in your class
That won't get me far
Please give me a "C"
So that I can be
Finally out of P.E.
I, I play guitar
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That won't get me far
Please give me a "C"
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I'll make it very simple and clear: Captain Marvel is really worth a watch. It's just entertaining and visually impressive, exactly what it was meant to be. Just keep this in mind that it's an origin story so don't go looking for an overstuffed complex story. It's just a fun action movie that introduces us to a new superhero Captain Marvel, played brilliantly by Brie Larson. I became an instant fan watching her in this action heroine avatar, something she manages to pull off with ease. Watch her in the action sequences and there's no way you can't be impressed. Viewers were literally cheering for some of the most heroic moments in the film. Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury is as awesome as always, it's just that his character feels even better and refined than what we've seen. Jude Law is also quite good, and so are Ben Mendelsohn and Lashana Lynch. But the one character that ultimately steals the show is Goose, the cat. Some of the sequences involving her are so hilarious that it was really difficult to stop laughing. Visual effects are excellent, and the IMAX 3D viewing just elevated them. And since it's most importantly an action movie, every single action sequence it delivers is impressive, especially the train sequence. I would call it one of the major highlights of the movie. Cinematography in certain portions is really impressive. Humor, like any other MCU movie, is top notch and really manages to make you laugh. Captain Marvel has a simple-looking origin story presented and executed in a terrific manner. The directors have done a great job with the characterization of Captain Marvel, and that is what makes everything in the film seem so good. The pace is brisk, gore is minimal to no, and there's nothing unsuitable for kids. I'd definitely recommend watching Captain Marvel to anyone who likes superheroes or is simply a fan of action movies. You'll love it if you want to be entertained. It also does answer some much-asked questions, and that should be the reason enough for you to stay instead of just walking away. Can't wait to watch Avengers: Endgame now!

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How do you average survey results?
In order to correctly calculate the average overall response to each question, we need to:

Multiply the number of individuals selecting each rating by the corresponding rating value (1 – 5)
Add the results of those calculations together.
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Certainly not on pace to match initial estimates of a $180 Million first weekend take, but probably going to beat the pared back expectations of as little as $80 Million after Brie couldn't keep her mouth shut.

I wonder how much Rotten Tomatoes meddling helped with the box office score for the first weekend, and if it will hurt RT in the long term.

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Certainly not on pace to match initial estimates of a $180 Million first weekend take, but probably going to beat the pared back expectations of as little as $80 Million after Brie couldn't keep her mouth shut.

I wonder how much Rotten Tomatoes meddling helped with the box office score for the first weekend, and if it will hurt RT in the long term.

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Do you believe SJWs are not gullible dolt lemmings who do what they are told?

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I've never been up in the air in a hot air balloon. I know absolutely nothing about it.

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Carol Danvers had $20M Thursday, and $40M Friday.

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So, is "Elite Female Fighter Pilots" a joke? Let along an entire Squadron of them?

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$153M over the weekend domestically. Has anyone here even seen the movie? Just curious. I didn't, was busy seeing Alita a second time, and then family stuff - kept me busy over the weekend.


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Best review I've seen on it so far.

Really takes the piss out of everybody arguing about this bland and predictable offering.

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I don't know his exact address, but the whole group there is from Wisconsin. I've only been aware of them for about 4-5 years now, but they've got videos doing this stuff when they were all around college age. (I skipped the first 5 or 6 minutes of the review on the timestamp of the link I sent, because it wasn't at all related to the movie and had a lot to do with the upcoming DNC possibility in Wisconsin).

I laughed when I first realized that they were getting their start back in the days of early youtube I probably lived within 15 minutes of where they were making their videos.

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I don't know his exact address, but the whole group there is from Wisconsin. I've only been aware of them for about 4-5 years now, but they've got videos doing this stuff when they were all around college age. (I skipped the first 5 or 6 minutes of the review on the timestamp of the link I sent, because it wasn't at all related to the movie and had a lot to do with the upcoming DNC possibility in Wisconsin).

I laughed when I first realized that they were getting their start back in the days of early youtube I probably lived within 15 minutes of where they were making their videos.

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Do you know Lambeau Field is at the intersection of Lombardi Ave and Onieda St? I am 2 blocks from Onieda.

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Saw it last night and the movie is perfectly fine. Nothing special. Only one part is a bit too on the nose about girl power to me, but I won't spoil it. The MCU is really getting good with their de-aging technology. Samuel L Jackson looks good in the movie. Only a few parts where the effect gets a little wonky.

Brie Larson is a bit off with her acting. I don't know what it is exactly. Comedic timing or tone or something. Mostly she does fine, but some of it's a little too goofy IMO.

Anyone who says the story is too predictable is lying. There's definitely some twists in there that no one would predict ahead of time. Overall, it's a super hero origin movie. So, yeah there are familiar beats. That's how it works, but it's still an enjoyable movie.

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