Captain Marvel, DC or MCU? by JEWELSTAITEFAN

https://cosmicbook.news/brie-larson-hates-avengers-captain-marvel-cast

Stay classy, Brie.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 14, 2019 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://cosmicbook.news/brie-larson-hates-avengers-captain-marvel-cast

Stay classy, Brie.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

That seems hilarious. I suspect feelings are mutual.

This would be funny if CM gets a sequel and Brie is fired, replaced by a competent Actress.

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Thursday, March 14, 2019 8:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://cosmicbook.news/brie-larson-hates-avengers-captain-marvel-cast

Stay classy, Brie.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
That seems hilarious. I suspect feelings are mutual.

This would be funny if CM gets a sequel and Brie is fired, replaced by a competent Actress.

Maybe they could actually make Captain Marvel the original human with the name. A black woman named Monica Rambeau.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Rambeau

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Marvel_Comics)#Monica_Ra
mbeau

Not that most fans of the MCU would even know that there was a black woman who went by Captain Marvel back in the early 80's, when I was 3 years old.

I wish I could give you an opinion of who would do the role justice, but since I haven't watched any movies and TV really for so long now, anybody I'd suggest would be too old for the role.

Danai Gurira from The Walking Dead would probably do great in the role, but she's 41 this year.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 15, 2019 3:13 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://cosmicbook.news/brie-larson-hates-avengers-captain-marvel-cast

Stay classy, Brie.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
That seems hilarious. I suspect feelings are mutual.

This would be funny if CM gets a sequel and Brie is fired, replaced by a competent Actress.

Maybe they could actually make Captain Marvel the original human with the name. A black woman named Monica Rambeau.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Rambeau

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Marvel_Comics)#Monica_Ra
mbeau

Not that most fans of the MCU would even know that there was a black woman who went by Captain Marvel back in the early 80's, when I was 3 years old.

I wish I could give you an opinion of who would do the role justice, but since I haven't watched any movies and TV really for so long now, anybody I'd suggest would be too old for the role.

Danai Gurira from The Walking Dead would probably do great in the role, but she's 41 this year.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And Maria Rambeau is a side character in the film.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 8:12 AM

I have heard that.

If Marvel/Disney is smart, they'll have Rogue take Carl Manver's powers and chuck her off a bridge ASAP and introduce the world to Monica Rambeau as Captain Marvel...

Played by a charismatic and legitimately confident woman the likes of Gal Gadot, and they won't push the feminist agenda and won't need to sink $500 million into marketing after all of the terrible PR they had to try to overcome this time around. I bet it would do even better than Black Panther did.

I don't know exactly when Monica was in the new CM movie, but I heard that she was a child with a small role. If she was in it during the 90's, she would be an adult in current time.

I was actually shocked to find out that Danai Gurira was a year older than me. She looks much younger and is in excellent physical shape. She seems like a great person to me. I think she could make an excellent Captain Marvel. The only problem would be longevity of the role, unfortunately...

If she became the Captain Marvel for the next 10 years of MCU movies after End Game, she'd be 51 years old by the end of that cycle.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 17, 2019 8:52 PM

If you're interested in stats, this is a really cool site I didn't know about until I saw a youtube video the other day.

https://www.the-numbers.com/

There's an insane wealth of information about box office figures for movies here. I don't think it goes back very far though (at least right now). I think it would be pretty awesome to see it fleshed out with movies from 30 and 40 years ago and more for comparisons.

Here's what they've got on Captain Marvel up until yesterday:

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Captain-Marvel-(2019)#tab=box-office

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 19, 2019 2:33 PM

First weekend take: $153,433,423
Second weekend take: $67,988,130

-56% drop

With a 53% drop from first Monday to 2nd Monday. ($5,200,000 from $10,986,773)

($5,200,000 is just an estimate. All weekend figures were rounded like that until the data came in too).

Assuming a 53% take on Tues-Thurs as well, the take for the second week will be $90,400,270, or a 55% drop from the first week. (I don't know if the discount tickets for Tuesday were a regular thing at movie theaters or if they were special for CM's first week release).

International BO information: https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Captain-Marvel-(2019)#tab=internatio
nal

A few interesting things to note here...

Jeez.... there are 170,730 movie theaters in China??? It's crazy to see that when compared to 1,550 in Russia and 2,098 in South Korea that showed the movie.

Another interesting thing to note is that most international revenue outside of China (which by far makes the bulk of it) was made on opening weekend. Most other countries seem to have an 80%-90% drop or more after the first weekend. (That figure includes all week after opening weekend, the second weekend and yesterday)

For instance, the UK saw over $16.5 Million on opening weekend. The total now stands at just over $19.5 Million. The total for Mexico on opening weekend was $12.7 Million, while the current total is $14.7 Million.

It doesn't seem to have legs in most foreign countries, although China's BO is so huge that really doesn't matter since their post opening weekend figures are only 35% down (again, this is a figure for all 8 days after Opening Weekend, vs the three day Opening Weekend).

Will be interesting to see what happens in the third week.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 24, 2019 1:16 PM

I don't think I've seen a Cinema film since Alita. And now we have coming next month the Billy Battson Captain Marvel.
I am looking forward to it, hoping it is not too kid-oriented.

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Sunday, March 24, 2019 3:16 PM

Seriously... does anybody know what movie theaters are like in China? How many people can fit in a screening? How much tickets cost?

The Numbers says that Captain Marvel has been playing on 170,730 screens since it opened in China, and has had 270,593 "Theatrical Engagements". Theatrical Engagements are defined as how many theaters have shown a movie for a week straight since release. (Also meaning that in the second two weeks there was an average of 50,000 theaters per week showing it compared to the 170,730 showing it the first week)

When I originally posted about that, I had only used South Korea as a comparison at 2,098 theaters.

I don't know what I was expecting in the US, but I certainly wasn't expecting to find out that it only showed at 4,310 for the first two weeks and is now showing at only 4,278 going into its third week. Listing 12,898 Theatrical Engagements.

There's at least 40 times as many theaters in China as there are in the US???? There's not even 5 times as many people there. How?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 24, 2019 3:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Seriously... does anybody know what movie theaters are like in China? How many people can fit in a screening? How much tickets cost?

The Numbers says that Captain Marvel has been playing on 170,730 screens since it opened in China, and has had 270,593 "Theatrical Engagements". Theatrical Engagements are defined as how many theaters have shown a movie for a week straight since release. (Also meaning that in the second two weeks there was an average of 50,000 theaters per week showing it compared to the 170,730 showing it the first week)

When I originally posted about that, I had only used South Korea as a comparison at 2,098 theaters.

I don't know what I was expecting in the US, but I certainly wasn't expecting to find out that it only showed at 4,310 for the first two weeks and is now showing at only 4,278 going into its third week. Listing 12,898 Theatrical Engagements.

There's at least 40 times as many theaters in China as there are in the US???? There's not even 5 times as many people there. How?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Interwebs says China had over 50,000 cinemas in 2017.

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Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:22 PM

How much is a ticket in China?

Hard to say, but with a little math we might be able to at least have a ballpark figure.

CM's current Domestic gross: $321,498,835
CM's current China gross: $140,950,000

Theatrical Engagements in the US: 12,898
Theatrical Engagements in China: 270,593

(Theatrical Engagement is one full week it showed in a single theater)

Average price of a movie ticket in the US first quarter of 2019: $9.11

$321,498,835 (Domestic Gross) / $9.11 (Ticket Price) = 35,290,761 tickets

35,290,761 (Tickets) / 12,898 (Theatrical Engagements) = 2,736 tickets per theater per week

2,736 x 270,593 (Chinese Theatrical Engagements) = 740,342,448 total tickets sold in China.

$140,950,000 (China's Current Box Office) / 740,342,448 = .19 cents per ticket.

I'm not sure how accurate, if at all, that math is. It's based off of a lot of assumptions.

The numbers of how many US tickets sold would suggest around 12% of the US population has seen CM, assuming there were not any repeat viewings.

The numbers of how many China tickets sold would suggest around 60% of the Chinese population has seen CM, assuming there were not any repeat viewings.

Theaters in China could be much smaller on average than in the US.

I seriously doubt that they still make only .25 cents a day working in those sweat shops. But who knows, maybe .20 cents is the going rate to see a movie in China these days.

If only 12% of Chinese actually have seen the movie and are on par with the US population, that would still mean that it costs around a buck to see a movie in China today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:26 PM

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Based on my experience, it varies between big, chain cinemas and smaller cinemas.

Most film tickets, which I saw at a Jackie Chan Cinema near my apartment in Beijing, are priced around 90 RMB, which is around 14 USD. However, discounted tickets can also be bought online via Apps like Dianping and Meituan. A ticket for Paddington 2 at a youth theatre may priced 28 RMB, or around 4.5 USD.

These prices are normal tickets, not VIP tickets. Overall, we Chinese think film tickets are generally affordable.

(I’m not using calculator or currency converter to calculate the USD values so they may not be accurate)

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-average-cost-of-a-movie-ticket-in-Ch
ina

If we go by this, the average Theater in China is MUCH smaller than US theaters, and far, far less Chinese people have seen the movie than US citizens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:32 PM

This is probably more accurate:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/943300/china-average-ticket-price-
by-size-of-cinemas/

Single hall cinema average price: 30 Yuan
16 hall or more Mega cinema price: 40 Yuan

1 Yuan = .15 cents

$4.5 to $6 for a movie ticket in China.

Let's call it $5.25...

Total Chinese box office: $140,950,000 / $5.25 = 26,847,619 tickets sold

Compared to 35,290,761 tickets sold in America

In 1/40th the amount of theaters.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 8, 2019 6:44 PM

America loves a winner!

So, a couple of things I learned today. ( As I am led to believe )

1. The scenes Brie Larson shot for End Game, as Captain Marvel, were done BEFORE her full on feature - Captain Marvel.

2. Captain Marvel, as she appears in End Game, is a fully formed and ( allegedly ) better character than what audiences saw in the origins movie.

I've only seen a few clips and knowing the Russo bros, they could be reshoots, wonky , deceptively done edits , but Brie Larson actually looks - please be seated - interesting ! .

For all the talk of her being stoic and unsympathetic in CM, early indications are she's got a real personality in End Game.

This could have been done on purpose, from the start, could be why the reshoots, after CM was so horribly panned, OR... it could just be one clever head fake, to get angry white males, like myself , to buy tickets.

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Monday, April 8, 2019 7:03 PM

For those who have seen the SJW iteration, did Gemma Chan or McKenna Grace have significant screen time?

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Monday, April 8, 2019 7:04 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, a couple of things I learned today. ( As I am led to believe )

1. The scenes Brie Larson shot for End Game, as Captain Marvel, were done BEFORE her full on feature - Captain Marvel.

2. Captain Marvel, as she appears in End Game, is a fully formed and ( allegedly ) better character than what audiences saw in the origins movie.

I've only seen a few clips and knowing the Russo bros, they could be reshoots, wonky , deceptively done edits , but Brie Larson actually looks - please be seated - interesting ! .

For all the talk of her being stoic and unsympathetic in CM, early indications are she's got a real personality in End Game.

This could have been done on purpose, from the start, could be why the reshoots, after CM was so horribly panned, OR... it could just be one clever head fake, to get angry white males, like myself , to buy tickets.

For reshoots, did they extract the corncob from her bung first?

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Sunday, April 28, 2019 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://cosmicbook.news/brie-larson-hates-avengers-captain-marvel-cast

Stay classy, Brie.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I just noticed that for her stage name, she chose the Family Name of her mom's grandmother, Elva (Larson) Hunt. I suppose it's her mom's mom's mom's birth name, which came from Elva's dad, and at some point, the Son of Lars.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 8:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://cosmicbook.news/brie-larson-hates-avengers-captain-marvel-cast

Stay classy, Brie.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
I just noticed that for her stage name, she chose the Family Name of her mom's grandmother, Elva (Larson) Hunt. I suppose it's her mom's mom's mom's birth name, which came from Elva's dad, and at some point, the Son of Lars.

lol. wow. I purged that information the second I read it. I don't think there is anything in the entire world that I honestly could care less about than how she got her name.

I find it quite striking that you even took the time to type that paragraph out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 29, 2019 8:25 AM

Speaking of End Game...

I saw a review for the movie by redlettermedia yesterday.

As interesting and sci-fi as the spoilers sounded, (and accurate too) it seems that the makers of Star Trek Voyager could have a legitimate case against Marvel for plagiarism if they felt the desire to pursue it.

I never watched Voyager beyond the first or second season, but my old man raved about the arc of the ending of the show.

Mike from redlettermedia is a HUGE Trek fan and almost always seems to sneak in references in most of his reviews. This one, however, seems more than coincidental.

And what was the title of the final episode that aired on May 23, 2001, you might ask?

Endgame

Try to purge the last few episodes of Voyager from your mind before seeing End Game, or else you already have a lot of the spoilers.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 29, 2019 9:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://cosmicbook.news/brie-larson-hates-avengers-captain-marvel-cast

Stay classy, Brie.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
I just noticed that for her stage name, she chose the Family Name of her mom's grandmother, Elva (Larson) Hunt. I suppose it's her mom's mom's mom's birth name, which came from Elva's dad, and at some point, the Son of Lars.

lol. wow. I purged that information the second I read it. I don't think there is anything in the entire world that I honestly could care less about than how she got her name.

I find it quite striking that you even took the time to type that paragraph out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Not how she GOT her name, how she CHOSE her name. It's all gyrrrl power, girls are only descended from wymmin, not from men.

That's what her wacky delusions are Founded in.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Speaking of End Game...

I saw a review for the movie by redlettermedia yesterday.

As interesting and sci-fi as the spoilers sounded, (and accurate too) it seems that the makers of Star Trek Voyager could have a legitimate case against Marvel for plagiarism if they felt the desire to pursue it.

I never watched Voyager beyond the first or second season, but my old man raved about the arc of the ending of the show.

Mike from redlettermedia is a HUGE Trek fan and almost always seems to sneak in references in most of his reviews. This one, however, seems more than coincidental.

And what was the title of the final episode that aired on May 23, 2001, you might ask?

Endgame

Try to purge the last few episodes of Voyager from your mind before seeing End Game, or else you already have a lot of the spoilers.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

They weren't very similar IMO. It was a bad movie though. The characters make a lot of stupid decisions just so the directors could shoehorn in all the stuff they wanted. It's about 2 hours longer than it needed to be.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 3:14 PM

Stupid movie is what audiences want, it seems.

First film to break $1 B opening weekend.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 8:56 PM

I'm sure it was worth the ticket price. Especially for those who've already invested in the first 20 or so movies.

End Game could have been the worst movie ever made and I doubt it would have made less than 2 Billion in it's full theatrical run.

So you didn't see any parallels to the end of Voyager? RLM made a pretty good case for it in a few short minutes before they got into their review.

They do a character called Mr. Plinkett that does great reviews of movies from time to time. They've done it for all of the Star Wars movies after the original trilogy and the last one they did was Ghostbusters 2016. What's great about the videos is when they do split screen comparisons of similarities and differences between movies. When I saw them making the comparsion between End Game and STV's Endgame, I began to suspect that this would end up being Mr. Plinkett's first movie review in two years.

--- SPOILER WARNING ---

Here's the comparison I was talking about. If timestamps work on fff.net, it should start at the right spot. If not, it begins at 8:25. I'd like to see what your opinions are of the similarities after watching that, JSF. It's just around 5 minutes of the video.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 29, 2019 9:20 PM

I'll try to catch that when I get to a computer.

If STV ended in 2001, I probably never watched. Same reasons for 2000 and almost same for 2002.
I might have missed the last few Avengers. Super Hero Drug Addict Downey repelled me, and Natalie Portman was no longer hanging with Thor.
The last GoTG lacked in plausible storyline.

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Here's the comparison I was talking about. If timestamps work on fff.net, it should start at the right spot. If not, it begins at 8:25. I'd like to see what your opinions are of the similarities after watching that, JSF. It's just around 5 minutes of the video.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Nah they're reaching pretty hard. I mean there's similarities but it's like saying every super hero movie is a plagiarized version of another because a hero fights a villain. That's just too high level to be plagiarism to me.

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 2:04 PM

Well... to be fair, they are pretty much all the same movie over and over again with different actors and face paint.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:25 AM

America loves a winner!

So, to revisit Captain Mary Sue...

Carol Danvers was a test pilot who flew a plane POWERED by the tesseract. It gets shot down, and to keep the aliens from getting the technology, Carol SHOOTS the engine, it explodes and because she is the closest living thing, instead of being simply injured or killed, she BECOMES the embodiment of that energy ???

WTF ?? You literally can't get MORE Mary Sue than that !!

And she's not just powerful, but THE mostest powerful in the universe ???

That's just lazy writing

In the world of make believe, that's the most make believiest of them all.

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Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

So, to revisit Captain Mary Sue...

Carol Danvers was a test pilot who flew a plane POWERED by the tesseract. It gets shot down, and to keep the aliens from getting the technology, Carol SHOOTS the engine, it explodes and because she is the closest living thing, instead of being simply injured or killed, she BECOMES the embodiment of that energy ???

WTF ?? You literally can't get MORE Mary Sue than that !!

And she's not just powerful, but THE mostest powerful in the universe ???

That's just lazy writing

In the world of make believe, that's the most make believiest of them all.

Are you implying that the tesseract was created by a male?

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Monday, November 11, 2019 10:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

So, to revisit Captain Mary Sue...

Carol Danvers was a test pilot who flew a plane POWERED by the tesseract. It gets shot down, and to keep the aliens from getting the technology, Carol SHOOTS the engine, it explodes and because she is the closest living thing, instead of being simply injured or killed, she BECOMES the embodiment of that energy ???

WTF ?? You literally can't get MORE Mary Sue than that !!

And she's not just powerful, but THE mostest powerful in the universe ???

That's just lazy writing

In the world of make believe, that's the most make believiest of them all.

So, more or less the same story as the Hulk, but that's ok because he has a penis? Come on this is just comic book stuff. Superheroes have all sorts of silly ways of getting their powers. I don't have a problem with this one.

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Monday, November 11, 2019 11:13 AM

I think it's more along the lines of absolute power and absolute invincibility coupled with being completely unearned.

At the end of the day, Superman is a pretty boring character too if you're not 5 years old anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 11, 2019 9:25 PM

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
So, more or less the same story as the Hulk, but that's ok because he has a penis? Come on this is just comic book stuff. Superheroes have all sorts of silly ways of getting their powers. I don't have a problem with this one.

Wrong ! Banner's dad experimented on him as a child, and those genetic alterations and enhancements stayed w/him through out his youth , through adolescence and it wasn't until the burst of Gama radiation that it all coalesced into making The Hulk. That much radiation SHOULD have killed him, and it would have, had he not been his dad's guinea pig.

It has zero to do w/ Banner having a penis, you twat. But thanks for wearing your pink pussy cat hat to the conversation.

Hulk can't be reproduced w/ a shot of super serum or a series of shots or else that person will turn out like the Abomination.

( Dunno about SHE-Hulk. Can't say I'm up to speed on her back story )

Now , as I've said before, the way they did it w/ Spiderman : Into the Spiderverse was brilliant. Yes, ANYONE could have been bitten by that spider, and pretty much the same result. That's how we get Miles Morales, Spider Gwenn, and a host of others, all basically the same, but some with variations of powers unique to themselves.

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Monday, November 11, 2019 11:46 PM

I don't see Zeek posting here much. I could be wrong, but I don't recall ever thinking that Zeek was an overly woke type individual.

Maybe you want to tone down the aggression in that reply there, Rappy? Pretty sure that Zeek's post was innocent, while possibly being a little naive. It was nowhere near as insulting or even remotely as intentionally inflammatory as Nilbog's terrible posts are.

Without having more info, I've got to give Zeek the benefit of the doubt on this one. He (She?) is probably just a normie who doesn't get what the fuss on either side of this issue is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 12:29 AM

America loves a winner!

6ix - Aggressive?? What do you mean, aggressive?? FUCK YOU!!!

j/k

Maybe, but he went to the penis stuff , right out of the gate.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 9:48 AM

lol. Fuck you too buddy.

Yeah... he did. Like I said... a bit naive, but probably just because he really isn't aware of a lot of this stuff. I mean, c'mon, he used The Hulk as a comparison to Captain Marvel when the only really obvious "mainstream" choice to make a comparison would be Superman. The Hulk isn't as worthless as Hawkeye or Black Widow, but unless you're just looking to beat up some bank robbers or some other human foes, The Hulk is going to need some backup.

Carol Danvers can punch holes in planets. Her only character development was a bunch of men all her life telling her she can't do anything because she has a vagina, as if every man she ever knew was an anachronistic clone of Archie Bunker. Then she becomes the most powerful being that ever existed because of some freak accident that could never occur in real life and proved everybody wrong. That's it. *yawn*

I dunno... We don't get a lot of people posting in these parts anymore. I figure this is probably a good opportunity to show somebody else what we see is going on instead of insulting them so they don't come back.

I kind hate it when I have to be a dick to SGG because I like the dude. I was hoping that him being on the other side of it all with his take on Joker would open his eyes a bit, but he flipped right back over with the next Hollywood cash grab and back to insulting everybody.

(He's lucky this isn't Twitter. They wouldn't have him back.)

It's hard not to insult somebody right back when they're hurling them your way.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 11:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
So, more or less the same story as the Hulk, but that's ok because he has a penis? Come on this is just comic book stuff. Superheroes have all sorts of silly ways of getting their powers. I don't have a problem with this one.

Wrong ! Banner's dad experimented on him as a child, and those genetic alterations and enhancements stayed w/him through out his youth , through adolescence and it wasn't until the burst of Gama radiation that it all coalesced into making The Hulk. That much radiation SHOULD have killed him, and it would have, had he not been his dad's guinea pig.

It has zero to do w/ Banner having a penis, you twat. But thanks for wearing your pink pussy cat hat to the conversation.

Hulk can't be reproduced w/ a shot of super serum or a series of shots or else that person will turn out like the Abomination.

( Dunno about SHE-Hulk. Can't say I'm up to speed on her back story )

Now , as I've said before, the way they did it w/ Spiderman : Into the Spiderverse was brilliant. Yes, ANYONE could have been bitten by that spider, and pretty much the same result. That's how we get Miles Morales, Spider Gwenn, and a host of others, all basically the same, but some with variations of powers unique to themselves.

I mean again that's the same as Captain Marvel. Her mom is a Kree. They didn't point that out in the movie and maybe they won't carry that over to the MCU, but it's part of her origin in the comics.

So, I mean it's just superhero BS. I don't see what makes this one so bad.

This isn't like Rey in Star Wars where she is a nobody but somehow the most powerful force user ever and doesn't need any training and even when she does stupid @$*% she never fails. Now that's some ridiculous story telling.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 2:40 PM

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So, I mean it's just superhero BS. I don't see what makes this one so bad.

The gross marketing. The studios allowing their actors and directors with an agenda to rail on fans with the cringe legacy media piling on as well. The fact that this is just one prime example of this behavior in what has become a pretty long line of incidents.

Captain Marvel was the only one of these movies that made any money, and I'd bet all I had that this was just because of the anticipation for End Game and the lie that you needed to see Captain Marvel before you saw end game.

It probably was a good idea for them to remove this following scene from the movie when it was released in theaters too:

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:50 PM

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So Danvers is supposed to be 1/2 Kree ? Yeah, that'd be nice to point out in the movie. But still, how does grant her powers ? Save her from being blowed up, fine. But grant her galactic level powers ? Lame.

The motorcycle scene. Yeah, she's a real HERo, ain't she ? Guy offers to help, and gets his bike , helmet and jacket stolen. What a POS her character is. I bet Brie wrote that scene herself. Or had a lot of input, at least.

Did we at least get a discovery arc of her exploring her new found powers ? Seems she has the same sour puss expression on her face as a human pilot as she does 1/2 Kree super immortal.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:34 PM

I'm going to play a little bit of Devil's Advocate here, if you don't mind Rappy.

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So Danvers is supposed to be 1/2 Kree ? Yeah, that'd be nice to point out in the movie. But still, how does grant her powers ? Save her from being blowed up, fine. But grant her galactic level powers ? Lame.

I get what Zeek is trying to say. For the most part, superhero/supervillain origin stories are weak. They're either based on pseudo-science or the supernatural or just completely bogus from the beginning. A lot of that probably has to do with the fact that many of these stories are so old now that cigarette ads were still on TV every night decades after the first stories were written.

This shouldn't be where the argument lies, because it's a completely un-winnable argument.

And, unlike a lot of the other cultural appropriation we see in other franchises and other mediums today, it can't even be said that Captain Marvel was a cheap gender swap since Carol Danvers has been a real character for decades as well.

But, her story is boring. Being invincible is boring. There are no lessons learned. There are no struggles to overcome. They tried desperately to shoehorn some great myth of "The Patriarchy" always beating Carol down every single moment of her life, even though that wasn't going on in the 90's anymore than it goes on today, and then they had Carol overcome this lifetime of wrongdoings against her by making her the most powerful being in the universe. I fail to see how this is engrossing to anybody. It's certainly not teaching anybody any lessons on how to overcome animosity in their lives.

All I know is, I've got a niece that's turning 6 years old today and I'm in full support of her. If any one of those little shits tells her she can't do something because she's a girl, just pop them in the nose. But I'll also fill her in on the little secret that she better work hard to be smarter than the bullies and find other ways to win as she gets older because unless she's training to be a MMA fighter that strategy isn't going to work very well once puberty sets in.

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The motorcycle scene. Yeah, she's a real HERo, ain't she ? Guy offers to help, and gets his bike , helmet and jacket stolen. What a POS her character is. I bet Brie wrote that scene herself. Or had a lot of input, at least.

And again here... It's not as if that guy wasn't a total douchebag, and it's not as if we all haven't met a douchebag just like that guy in our lives either. Some guys are just natural born assholes. And, SURPRISE!!!! Some girls are too.

What that scene depicts is two fully grown, adult assholes in a bigger dick contest. One of them just happens to be a completely static character who was given superpowers she didn't have to work a day in her life for and how she gets her petty kicks off enjoying them.

It's kind of funny. I have no interest at all in ever watching Captain Marvel, but I wonder what happened to "The Don" after that. Is he still an asshole?

At the end of the day, a lot of women are attracted to everything "The Don" represents. Especially younger and more foolish women. The phrase "Nice Guys Finish Last" wasn't just a song by Green Day.

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Did we at least get a discovery arc of her exploring her new found powers ? Seems she has the same sour puss expression on her face as a human pilot as she does 1/2 Kree super immortal.

Nah. It was a complete A to Z story with no character development, as is all of the agenda based bullshit that comes from these millennials who grew up playing soccer without keeping the score and hiding in their safe spaces in college. (Notice how a vast majority of the SJWs are rich white kids who never struggled a day in their lives, and not the minorities they're supposedly representing when they're virtue signalling for virtual karma on Twitter).

Nobody ever taught them that adversity is something to welcome, and it's overcoming adversity that makes you stronger and smarter.

Not being in the vicinity of the luckiest explosion in fictional history.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 7:11 PM

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If biker guy had started putting his hands on her, yeah, crack those digits and teach him a lesson. Taking his bike and gear ? That harkens back to the Terminator, who I must remind no one, was a really bad guy, when the franchise started.

I think we all can agree that Captain Marvel, whether DC or Marvel version, on screen or from the comics, has a garbage origins story.

That's my view, and I'm sticking w/ it.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 8:04 PM

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If biker guy had started putting his hands on her, yeah, crack those digits and teach him a lesson. Taking his bike and gear ? That harkens back to the Terminator, who I must remind no one, was a really bad guy, when the franchise started.

I think we all can agree that Captain Marvel, whether DC or Marvel version, on screen or from the comics, has a garbage origins story.

That's my view, and I'm sticking w/ it.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

I'm not saying it wasn't out of line. It was.

It didn't paint her out to be a hero at all. I'm sure that's why it was eventually removed from the theatrical cut too, although there are a group of people who celebrated the fact that it was made in the first place when they found out about it.

But the dude was an asshole.

I'm the type that has a personal space bubble that I don't like having invaded by pretty much anybody except for a few people in my life. If I was looking at a map and some rando that I didn't know flipped it down on me like that, I'd probably want to break their fingers off too.

Don't even get me started on how I respond if somebody snaps their fingers to get my attention.

Just sayin'.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:44 AM

The marketing and Brie Larson are definitely a different story. I'm just saying the movie itself was fine. It wasn't a great movie by any means but it was entertaining. The most ridiculous part of it was playing "I'm just a girl" during the big final fight scene. That was cheesy as hell.

It will be interesting to see how Marvel handles the character now. I don't think the character is very popular. She's got the superman problem that was already mentioned. However, Disney pinned a lot of hype on her being their first female hero to get her own movie. So, they can't abandon her without taking some heat. So, they're going to have to figure out a strategic way to keep her around but not to the point where people walk away.

Kinda like how Disney gave Kathleen Kennedy a contract extension right in the middle of her destroying a multibillion dollar franchise. They are trying to keep up a public stance that everything is fine. I almost guarantee she'll "step down" after Episode IX before the next movie starts filming. She'll be able to claim that she accomplished what she set out to do and blah blah. Everybody saves face and Disney doesn't admit they torched billions of dollars.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 11:18 AM

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I do like how they tried to make fun of themselves a bit and the character when Rocket snarked at Danvers by asking if she's goanna get another haircut. It fit his character in saying something like that, and it also spoke to the running commentary by fans of her changing look in the comics. Harmless fun.

I'd say Marvel has its problems going forwards, but it looks like the DCEU isn't one of them, if the rumors of how bad Wonder Woman 1984 are true. But that's another thread.

All said, I think the general consensus is that the movie , on its own, isn't so utterly horrible. It's just unnecessarily bad, and add to the fact that Brie Larson is so disconnected w/ reality and insists on shooting off her mouth. It's no secret that Avengers co-stars didn't warm up to her. None of the women would go do interviews with her, and the men barely endured her presence. All that added to the negative press, I'm sure.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 12:45 PM

DCU could just die and they should build a new one around Joker. They're already talking about a sequel to it, and it is so far removed from everything else out there that it hasn't been tainted. Nobody wants to see Ben Affleck on the screen with Phoenix.

All of the major players that were involved in all of DCEU's missteps so far are gone. The only thing that could kill the new guy in charge is if Birds of Pray fails miserably. WW isn't his fault. If the rumors are true and that ends up bombing, he can point out that it was left in his lap when he took over and also point out that he greenlit the most profitable comic book movie ever as his first move.

I'm hoping that Birds of Prey fails miserably too though, but that it doesn't get him kicked out for greenlighting it. I just want everything from the first attempt at the DCEU to die off and get rebooted around Joker. Nobody is going to want to watch a 55 year old Harley Quinne when Batman is old enough to wear the suit anyhow.

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 12:52 PM

If a TV show is produced but nobody sees it, was it ever even created at all?

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/batwoman-season-one-ratings/

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 5:13 PM

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Yeah, Batwhaman is horribly written and pretty much a dumpster fire all around.

The folks I usually go to for reviews on such things have stopped reviewing it, because there's just no reason. It's beyond ' woke ' and more like an extremely unfunny version of the Scary Movie franchise. Like a parody of wokieness w/ out trying to BE a parody.

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 6:14 PM

I wouldn't know. It wasn't made for me. I'm never going to watch it. I've never watched a single episode of a single DC show on their network dating back to Smallville.

All I know about it was the cringiest radio ad I've ever heard in my life. I hope somebody got fired over that one.

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 6:32 PM

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I wouldn't know. It wasn't made for me. I'm never going to watch it. I've never watched a single episode of a single DC show on their network dating back to Smallville.

All I know about it was the cringiest radio ad I've ever heard in my life. I hope somebody got fired over that one.

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IT WASN'T MADE FOR YOU !

You know , goddammit, that's EXACTLY what the fans need to say to the SJW snowflakes who are destroying decades old franchises, just so they can instill their woke agenda and overwrite MALE characters w/ lesser , undeserving female ones.

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:34 PM

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I wouldn't know. It wasn't made for me. I'm never going to watch it. I've never watched a single episode of a single DC show on their network dating back to Smallville.

All I know about it was the cringiest radio ad I've ever heard in my life. I hope somebody got fired over that one.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

IT WASN'T MADE FOR YOU !

You know , goddammit, that's EXACTLY what the fans need to say to the SJW snowflakes who are destroying decades old franchises, just so they can instill their woke agenda and overwrite MALE characters w/ lesser , undeserving female ones.

Good call.

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:41 PM

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If a TV show is produced but nobody sees it, was it ever even created at all?

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/batwoman-season-one-ratings/

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I just looked at that link.

She got a Dishonorable Discharge from Military School? That is a total loser, right there. Thousands graduate every week from Military Basic Training alone. Considered the more exclusive, Martine Corps Boot Camp is something like 13 weeks, and pumps out a hundreds each week. Little under a hundred per platoon, 3 platoons per company, times 2 Recruit Depots. And she can't even muster enough competence to achieve the basics. Sheesh. Bruce Wayne would be ashamed.

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:09 PM