Hollywood's Abysmal 2024 in Numbers by 6ixStringJack

Disney Got Its Groove Back in 2024, but Troubled ‘Snow White’ Could Halt the Hot Streak

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/disney-success-moana-2-trouble-snow
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Thursday, December 5, 2024 6:13 AM

I guess the Wicked dolls had a web link that went to a porn site instead of the movie website and some moms are trying to sue over it.

Who do you even root for at this point? Shitty people all around.

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Thursday, December 5, 2024 1:01 PM

Universal's Wicked seems like it could struggle overseas in France and China

Bonhoeffer or Bonhoeffer: Pastor. Spy. Assassin a 2024 historical drama thriller film about the German theologian and anti-Nazi dissident Dietrich Bonhoeffer

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1864714936343265478

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Angel Studios' Bonhoeffer: Pastor. Spy. Assassin. grossed $252K on Wednesday (from 1,800 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $10.50M.

and

Ironman 3 vs Wicked vs Glaidator 2

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Iron-Ma
n-3/Gladiator-II-(2024)/Wicked-(2024)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

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Thursday, December 5, 2024 6:44 PM

Lord Of The Rings: The War Of The Rohirrim in an estimated 2,500 locations

https://x.com/borreport/status/1864772116601823672

if Venom a Spider-Man brand is owned by the Japanese 'Sony' does it actually count as Hollywood?

however the producers, actors, film makers Kelly Marcel are all Hollywood names, Tom Hardy, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Juno Temple, Rhys Ifans, Stephen Graham, Peggy Lu, Clark Backo, Alanna Ubach, producer Avi Arad etc

interesting how the stuff pushed by Hollywood The Marvels and that terrible Joker film Joke2 were flops

Venom-3
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32003-venom-the-last-dance-33
03m-overseas-4685m-worldwide/#comments
330.3M overseas and 468.5M worldwide

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Thursday, December 5, 2024 11:39 PM

Yeah...

Wicked made $5 Million yesterday. 75% drop from last week.

I heard some looney tunes on Youtube today saying that Wicked might break $1 Billion.

You had the holiday weekend and it's over. Big drops from here on out.

It has made enough money to justify it padding out larger theaters for the rest of the winter, but there will be no more big weekends for Wicked.

Meanwhile, the Domestic to International ratio is still nearly 3 to 1.

If that rumor that the two movies were filmed together at a price of $350 Million, you've got to make $875 Million on the two combined, and that 2nd part is going to be adjusted for inflation whatever year you put it out too.

And just like Barbie, I'm willing to bet you've spent quite a bit more on marketing for this one than your average movie. How much was that Superbowl ad spot all the way back in February?

You're at $377 Million now. Let's put a pin in all the Wicked success talk until Part 2 drops.

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Friday, December 6, 2024 4:04 PM

Disney's Moana 2 grossed an estimated $4.2M on Thursday (from 4,200 locations). Estimated total domestic gross stands at $248.0M.

https://x.com/borreport/status/1865080658781180261

Moana2 earned est. ¥2.55M ($350K) on Friday ( -73% opening day ) . China's 8-day total is now ¥55M ($7.6M).

Wicked opened in China today with est. ¥2.7M ($370K).

https://x.com/franspeech/status/1865043116262137975

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Friday, December 6, 2024 7:07 PM

‘SONIC 3’ was tracking to open with $55M+ domestically the film is tracking to open at #1, beating ‘MUFASA: THE LION KING’

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Saturday, December 7, 2024 6:14 AM

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The Trumptards at the National Review bitch and moan about Moana 2:

The Transing of Moana
This follow-up to the 2016 Moana continues the Disney brand’s dedication to DIE (Diversity Inclusion Equity), indoctrinating young movie-watchers to gender and race obsession. Now we know that Disney is in the business of teaching, not entertainment, and the company struck gold when the first Moana transformed Flaherty’s artistic breakthrough from cultural anthropology into feminist score-settling.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/12/the-transing-of-moana/

The National Review Trumptards also trashed Wicked:

Hollywood grooms girls to be witches.
Wicked offers the validation of dangerous, incoherent ideas, a culmination of the social and sexual grooming that Disneyfied culture has indulged since the show’s première in 2003. Only an idiot would take a girl-child to see Wicked and be indoctrinated into its cult of race and gender rebellion that completely perverts what it means to be human.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/11/the-weaponization-of-wicked/

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Saturday, December 7, 2024 11:09 AM

Looks like movie Wicked struggles in France and perhaps flopped in China, online gossip rumors say it is now opening 4th with just $0.36M on Friday.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

You had the holiday weekend and it's over. Big drops from here on out.

Ok, good call but do you remember typical figures for end of December beginning of Jan
I'm just wondering if those Chinese langauge movies can get knocked down from the global box office numbers.

In China Wicked is beaten by
'Her Story' a Chinese romance or comedy? it seems to be some single mother 'drama'
Maharaja a 2024 Indian Bollywood-ish Tamil-language action thriller film
Goodluck a Chinese comedy action 2024

then in Asian markets Wicked in turn knocks Moana-2 down

Sonic opens soon

Moana-2 was doing better than an old Marvel box office film 'Iron Man 3', Moana had higher box office numbers but seems to lack staying power, there is a sudden and sharp drop with profits falling like a rock

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Saturday, December 7, 2024 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by second:
The Trumptards at the National Review bitch and moan about Moana 2:

The Transing of Moana
This follow-up to the 2016 Moana continues the Disney brand’s dedication to DIE (Diversity Inclusion Equity), indoctrinating young movie-watchers to gender and race obsession. Now we know that Disney is in the business of teaching, not entertainment, and the company struck gold when the first Moana transformed Flaherty’s artistic breakthrough from cultural anthropology into feminist score-settling.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/12/the-transing-of-moana/

The National Review Trumptards also trashed Wicked:

Hollywood grooms girls to be witches.
Wicked offers the validation of dangerous, incoherent ideas, a culmination of the social and sexual grooming that Disneyfied culture has indulged since the show’s première in 2003. Only an idiot would take a girl-child to see Wicked and be indoctrinated into its cult of race and gender rebellion that completely perverts what it means to be human.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/11/the-weaponization-of-wicked/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

I guess that means you're going to stop rooting against them now.

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Saturday, December 7, 2024 11:25 AM

btw Maharaja is old-ish, it has been pirated already and has a Release date June 2024
but
people in Asia would rather watch this movie than watch the latest stuff from Hollywood

Indian Sub Continent film or Cinema of South India Bollywood, Pollywood, Tollywood etc

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Saturday, December 7, 2024 4:17 PM

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I guess that means you're going to stop rooting against them now.

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My point has always been that Hollywood’s ticket sales are destined to decrease, year by year, because movies in theaters are simultaneously available for free at home:
https://x1337x.cc/sort-search/COLLECTiVE/time/desc/1/
(The final / is important. Without the / you will get a message: 404 Not Found )

As far as I can tell, 6ixStringJack is selling the political notion that Hollywood’s ticket sales are decreasing for reasons connected to Trumptard deviant psychology and mental illnesses.

See Trump for a prime example of Deviant Psychology, the study of behavior that goes against social norms or expectations. The American Psychological Association (APA) defines deviance as behavior that is significantly different from what is considered typical or appropriate for a social group.

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Saturday, December 7, 2024 9:14 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I guess that means you're going to stop rooting against them now.

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My point has always been that Hollywood’s ticket sales are destined to decrease, year by year, because movies in theaters are simultaneously available for free at home:
https://x1337x.cc/sort-search/COLLECTiVE/time/desc/1/
(The final / is important. Without the / you will get a message: 404 Not Found )

As far as I can tell, 6ixStringJack is selling the political notion that Hollywood’s ticket sales are decreasing for reasons connected to Trumptard deviant psychology and mental illnesses.

See Trump for a prime example of Deviant Psychology, the study of behavior that goes against social norms or expectations. The American Psychological Association (APA) defines deviance as behavior that is significantly different from what is considered typical or appropriate for a social group.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Unfortunately for you, I actually have the numbers available to me and they don't reaffirm your position here at all.

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Saturday, December 7, 2024 9:23 PM

Here it is. Educate yourself.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/?area=XWW&grossesOption=totalGr
osses

Streaming made movies free by 2005.

And yet, from 2005 until the Democrats shut the world down in 2020, the box office increased for 15 years despite movie piracy.

In 2005, the Worldwide box office was $20,704,773,049.

By 2019, the Worldwide box office was $39,140,084,21.

There were only 2 years out of those 15 that the box office was lower than the year before, but only by about $100 Million out of the Tens of Billions made.

Then, after Democrats couldn't keep the world shut down any longer, we went from $8,647,521,488 worldwide in 2020 to $19,489,622,392 in 2021. This increased to $22,564,169,328 in 2022 and again to $26,294,373,537 in 2022.

Had that trajectory kept up this year, we'd be over $30 Billion again already, despite Bidenflation.

But the Democrats and the Media couldn't lie the shitty economy away forever, especially not when the bottom fell out in 2024.

And the VERY unfortunately timed writers and actors strikes killed about half of the movies they intended on releasing this year.

You are making a nonsense argument here.

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Sunday, December 8, 2024 8:00 AM

A lot of Directors seem to have 'Lost It' no longer have that movie magic element, not just small indie guys but the big bankable names the big names Ridley Scott, Ron Howard etc they can still do ok film or tv shows but the 'magic' seems gone

there are few New Celebrity Faces arriving in the new lines of Celebrity, they need older guys like Tom Cruise or RDJ or Tom Hardy for hits.

Entertainment in general, they are tried of getting preached to. The people are going back to Video Gaming and then your streaming studios that were supposed to take over as others stepped back from Cinema, the Prime Video through Amazon MGM etc they are also suffering.

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Sunday, December 8, 2024 2:44 PM

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You are making a nonsense argument here.

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I placed too much emphasis on being able to watch a movie at home, FOR FREE, within a few days of the movie opening in theaters. If you pay a small fee, and wait a few weeks, you can watch the movie at home and avoid the high priced theater popcorn.

Hollywood’s Death Spiral, Part 2
Are movie theaters facing extinction?
By Edward Jay Epstein | Aug 01, 2005, 9:13 AM

The $64 billion question in Hollywood these days is what to do about collapsing the boundary between a movie’s theatrical and video release—the so-called video window. Gradually, this window has shrunk from six months to four months—and, in the case of many children’s movies—to three months. Even worse, DVD releases are often announced while a movie is still playing in the multiplexes. As a result, more moviegoers now wait to buy or rent a movie on DVD, which leads to shorter theatrical runs and a fall in worldwide theater attendance, which in turn puts more pressure on the studios to shorten the window even further.

https://slate.com/culture/2005/08/hollywood-s-death-spiral-part-2.html

That was 2005 and movies on DVD. In 2024, the movies will stream to your home TV after only a few weeks, not months, from opening in theaters. Hollywood’s Death Spiral, which is causing movie theaters to face extinction, continues. This is a little different than easily available movies from pirates, but the effect on movie ticket sales is the same.

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Sunday, December 8, 2024 5:11 PM

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You are making a nonsense argument here.

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I placed too much emphasis on being able to watch a movie at home, FOR FREE, within a few days of the movie opening in theaters. If you pay a small fee, and wait a few weeks, you can watch the movie at home and avoid the high priced theater popcorn.

It doesn't matter what your argument is.

The numbers prove them to be falsehoods.

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Sunday, December 8, 2024 6:40 PM

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It doesn't matter what your argument is.

The numbers prove them to be falsehoods.

Smart people avoid theaters when the same movies will be on TV. Unlike Hollywood movies, Disney theme parks will never be on TV.

Hollywood’s Best Domestic Yearly Box Office was 2018 when it brought in $11,892,160,011 for all movies. But $11.89 billion is small compared to $34.15 billion in ticket sales at Disney theme parks each year:

All is well in the Magic Kingdom. Disney's theme park division posted record revenue and profit for fiscal 2024, with revenue rising 5% for the full year to $34.15 billion and operating income up 4% to $9.27 billion. Nov 15, 2024

Domestic Yearly Box Office
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/?ref_=bo_nb_di_secondarytab

Disney is turning record parks profits
Fri, Nov 15, 2024
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/15/disney-parks-profit-expansions.html

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Sunday, December 8, 2024 8:16 PM

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It doesn't matter what your argument is.

The numbers prove them to be falsehoods.
Smart people avoid theaters when the same movies will be on TV.

Though I don't necessarily disagree with this statement, it's foolish to say that there aren't smart people who enjoy going to the movies.

That being said, the last movie I paid to see in a theater was over 20 years ago. It's just one of many thousands of things I live without and why I'm not a wage slave like most of the rest of you are.

As we know, there are a lot of stupid people out there.

And the theater box office numbers prove that to be true as well.

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Sunday, December 8, 2024 8:18 PM

Oh... and your fake Disney Theme Park numbers are cute.

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Sunday, December 8, 2024 8:26 PM

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Oh... and your fake Disney Theme Park numbers are cute.

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You are hinting that Hollywood's domestic ticket sales are larger than Disney's theme park ticket sales. But your insinuations are false. Movie ticket sales are tiny compared to theme park ticket sales. If you have numbers different than $11.89 billion and $34.15 billion, what are those numbers? Where did you get them?

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Monday, December 9, 2024 10:41 AM

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The one movie which failed solely because of politics

"I Still Don't Understand": Director Of Trump Biopic Movie Bluntly Responds To Box Office Failure

By Matthew Rudoy | Dec 9, 2024

https://screenrant.com/the-apprentice-2024-movie-box-office-failure-al
i-abbasi-response/

The Apprentice's positive reviews were not enough to help the movie due to the polarizing opinions surrounding Trump. Those who support Trump were likely uninterested in seeing a movie that does not present him in a flattering light. Meanwhile, those who do not support Trump were likely unenthused to see more of him and his life story . . .

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Monday, December 9, 2024 5:45 PM

online gossip, they say Wicked suffers in parts of Europe and struggles in China Wicked drops to 9th just $0.09M/$1.24M now beaten by old movies like Venom 3 which climbs to 8th with $0.10M / $94.91M

Gladiator II grossed $12.57M this weekend (from 3,440 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $132.87M.

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1866249762548453717

not all bad news

Despicable Me 4 does it have a little more gas...it just needs a few more bucks to break a record it is now $2M way from overtaking the total of Despicable Me 2's Total

very big overseas 607.2M overseas and 968.2M worldwide

it is less than 32 M from 1 Billion

its final overseas release were August of this year Japan / Italy maybe that's it just 2 million short of Despicable Me 2's Total?? unless it gets back into the Cinema for Christmas / NewYear ?

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Monday, December 9, 2024 6:43 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Oh... and your fake Disney Theme Park numbers are cute.

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You are hinting that Hollywood's domestic ticket sales are larger than Disney's theme park ticket sales.

No I'm not.

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If you have numbers different than $11.89 billion and $34.15 billion, what are those numbers? Where did you get them?

I don't have any numbers on Disney theme parks. But what I do have is hundreds of articles over the last 4 years marking failure after failure in the Disney parks and how attendance keeps decreasing.

They're making that revenue up by raping the people that still go, but that only works for so long.

If Disney really "made" $34.15 Billion on their parks last year, they should probably spend a little of that re-investing in the park like Walt did.

The magic is gone in Disney parks. They mosquitos are back. Park personnel is sub-par, and a lot of them wouldn't qualify to work at WalMart. Fights break out all the time in Disney parks today.

Those numbers you're reading off to me are "Hollywood Reporting" for the Disney parks.

I don't care that they're lying. Somebody is probably going to end up in prison over it once they run out of plates to juggle.

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Tuesday, December 10, 2024 8:28 AM

watching older films instead

Paramount's IMAX exclusive re-issue of Interstellar grossed $4.60M domestically this weekend (from 165 locations)

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1866252666923524323

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Tuesday, December 10, 2024 5:20 PM

they can beat the old Batman Returns box office numbers but Home Alone 2 Lost in New York or Ironman 3?

Wicked grossed $3.35M from 3,885 locations. Total domestic gross stands at $325.46M.

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1866580347741421615

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Tuesday, December 10, 2024 7:28 PM

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they can beat the old Batman Returns box office numbers but Home Alone 2 Lost in New York or Ironman 3?

If we're being honest with ourselves and accounting for inflation, this isn't even a serious question.

Home Alone 2 made $807,710,266.08 worldwide with inflation, and $390,553,801.30 in the US.

Iron Man 3 made $1,645,862,824.88 worldwide with inflation, and $554,197,283.40 in the US.

Wicked might actually beat the US box office for Home Alone 2 if it does well over the Christmas season even when accounting for inflation, but HA2 only had a 48.4% Domestic share with more than half of its profit coming from overseas. Wicked's domestic share is 70.6%.

Wicked will come nowhere near $800 Million worldwide, let alone the $1.6 Billion+ it would need to beat Iron Man 3.

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Thursday, December 12, 2024 2:38 PM

So the sucessful box office run for Sony might be over stated?

and Sony will fight itself with Kraven vs Sonic?

‘Kraven the Hunter’ Likely to Be Devoured by Box Office Competition --- The Sony/Marvel film is projected for a poor $15 million opening while “Lord of the Rings: War of the Rohirrim” heads for $6 million
https://www.thewrap.com/kraven-hunter-box-office-preview/

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Thursday, December 12, 2024 3:00 PM

Amazon MGM Studios' Red One grossed $583K on Wednesday (from 3,150 locations), which was an 8% decrease from the previous Wednesday. Total domestic gross stands at $87.72M

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1867288012524335455

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Thursday, December 12, 2024 5:13 PM

If you gave me 1 Million to 1 odds on Kraven knocking out YOLO from the Top 10 I still wouldn't take that terrible bet.

Nah... Sony is going to end 2024 as it began. In with Madame Web, out with Kraven.

Nobody wants to see any of this comic shit anymore.

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Friday, December 13, 2024 7:50 AM

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Hollywood undercuts ticket sales by streaming movies 32 days after theatrical release

https://thedirect.com/article/gladiator-2-streaming-movie-when

Throughout 2024, Paramount followed a pattern for when its theatrical films became available for purchase. Below are the theatrical-digital windows for four of Paramount's theatrical releases from this year:

• Mean Girls
o Theatrical: January 12, 2024
o Digital: February 20, 2024 (39 days after theatrical)

39 days wasn't short enough so Hollywood decided to make it one week shorter by switching to 32 days after theatrical

• If
o Theatrical: May 17, 2024
o Digital: June 18, 2024 (32 days after theatrical)

• A Quiet Place: Day One
o Theatrical: June 28, 2024
o Digital: July 30, 2024 (32 days after theatrical)

• Transformers: One
o Theatrical: September 20, 2024
o Digital: October 22, 2024 (32 days after theatrical)

Based on past releases, Gladiator 2 is likely to be released digitally around 32 days after its theatrical debut, putting its digital date around December 24 and just in time for a home holiday release.

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Friday, December 13, 2024 8:56 AM

Fans lose it over Beyonce detail amid Jay-Z scandal

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/fans-lose-it-over-beyonce-
detail-amid-jayz-scandal/news-story/5e8d05e9ec83e46974e54ea8c34540e0

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Friday, December 13, 2024 9:57 AM

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Fans lose it over Beyonce detail amid Jay-Z scandal

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/fans-lose-it-over-beyonce-
detail-amid-jayz-scandal/news-story/5e8d05e9ec83e46974e54ea8c34540e0

The above story has a tiny connection to Hollywood. See the underlined sentences, below:

Beyonce and Jay-Z, real name Shawn Carter, have been married since 2008, and Bey has since then wholeheartedly embraced her husband’s surname, even using it to name tours (The Mrs Carter Show) and albums (this year’s Cowboy Carter).

Forbes not listing the “Carter” in her name led fans on social media to speculate that the listing might be Beyonce’s attempt to “soft launch (a) name change” to protect her brand from her husband’s unfolding scandal.

“lemme hear y’all say UH OH,” another fan quipped.

But fans thinking this is a new development are mistaken: In last year’s Forbes Power Women listing, Beyonce was also listed as “Knowles” only, as she was in 2022 (she placed #36 last year and #80 the year before).

And Beyonce and Jay-Z did show a very public united front after he was named in the lawsuit this week, stepping out with daughter Blue Ivy for the premiere of Disney’s upcoming Lion King sequel, Mufasa.

The film marks Blue Ivy’s movie debut, voicing the character Kiara.

Earlier this week, Jay-Z, 55, was accused of raping a 13-year-old girl in an amended lawsuit from October.

On Sunday, the plaintiff, who filed as Jane Doe, revised her lawsuit against Sean “Diddy” Combs to include Jay-Z.

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Friday, December 13, 2024 4:28 PM

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Hollywood undercuts ticket sales by streaming movies 32 days after theatrical release

https://thedirect.com/article/gladiator-2-streaming-movie-when

Throughout 2024, Paramount followed a pattern for when its theatrical films became available for purchase. Below are the theatrical-digital windows for four of Paramount's theatrical releases from this year:

• Mean Girls
o Theatrical: January 12, 2024
o Digital: February 20, 2024 (39 days after theatrical)

39 days wasn't short enough so Hollywood decided to make it one week shorter by switching to 32 days after theatrical

• If
o Theatrical: May 17, 2024
o Digital: June 18, 2024 (32 days after theatrical)

• A Quiet Place: Day One
o Theatrical: June 28, 2024
o Digital: July 30, 2024 (32 days after theatrical)

• Transformers: One
o Theatrical: September 20, 2024
o Digital: October 22, 2024 (32 days after theatrical)

Based on past releases, Gladiator 2 is likely to be released digitally around 32 days after its theatrical debut, putting its digital date around December 24 and just in time for a home holiday release.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

With the exception of A Quiet Place: Day One, it was clear much before 32 days that none of these were going to come close to breaking even in the theaters. The same could be said of Gladiator 2.

You don't hear them talking about putting Wicked or Moana 2 on streaming after 32 days.

I don't know if I agree with the practice, but it's hardly "undercutting" anything. If a movie hasn't made 2 times its production budget in the theaters by 32 days, it certainly wasn't going to break even after that, no matter how long you allowed it to languish in theaters. If it already had done that or more, then it makes absolutely no sense to put it on streaming because THEN you would certainly be undercutting your own revenue.

Maybe that's their new plan. If they know that after a month it's a loser they're just putting it out on streaming.

I would assume that there has to be some financial advantage of doing this, or they wouldn't be doing it. I just don't know what that advantage is, since after it's out of the box office we have no way of tracking anything about how much money a movie makes or loses.

Hell... at this point it might not be about anything more than scrambling to put something on their streaming services to keep people from dumping them.

I think the glut of streaming services is going to be the big Hollywood topic in 2025. The current situation is untenable.

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Friday, December 13, 2024 4:43 PM

The Hill: ‘Wicked’ has a hidden, subversively pro-Trump message

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Friday, December 13, 2024 4:45 PM

Blue Ivy is a dumb fucking name. What??? Taiquerinaqurea was taken? Is your daughter a Super Hero?

She's lucky she has rich parents and won't ever have to worry about putting that name on a resume.

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Saturday, December 14, 2024 4:57 AM

I can't believe that Kraven made $2 Million in previews.

That's awful, and it's going to lose a ton of money for Sony like we all knew it would, sure, but there must have been a lot of people who just wouldn't go see Gay Denzel in Gladiator 2 and most of the rest of the box office is for kids, women and gays right now. By all rights, this movie shouldn't make more money than Borderlands did.

$2 Million down. $273 Million to go to break even.

Good luck.

You'll need it.

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Saturday, December 14, 2024 7:46 AM

'Larven' eerrr type Crave...Kraven
it seemed like a weird character to push, how big was he as a brand name in the comicbooks and toons and video games?

I didn't know how to judge Kraven I thought ok maybe Sony with this movie could have some trick left maybe in marketing, however its off to a terrible start.

Venom-3 somehow had staying power which pushed it past the 400 + M worldwide mark. This month in box office can be tough, its still competitive enough to make it easy to lose monkey this time of year Nosferatu arrives soon, LOTR anime, all those kids holiday films or Disney Pixar style animations for Christmas vacation period. Moana 2 and Gladiator 2 and Wicked are still making some money. Then Sony will be in contest against itself with Kraven vs the new 'Sonic' which is always a bad sign for any studio. Japan versus Japan?
Is the star really a A-List star Aaron Taylor-Johnson, Kick-Ass, Quicksilver in Avengers-2, more recently Fall-Guy a flop. His biggest roles Nocturnal Animals, Nowhere Boy but that's 8 and 15 years ago and those films were not well known.
maybe the star is in fact...Russell Crowe...the bigger name?
Russell Crowe would probably still draw some older movie buff crowd from Glaidator days, Les Misérables was also successful, Noah 2014 struggled to make big money and was banned across the muslim world...not that the mohammedan sand people contribute much to worldwide box office anyways.
Some word of mouth is saying 'Karven' is good and audience critics and magazine critics are nuts....it has what seems to be some genuine online fans...however no shock surprises like Tom Holland Spider-Man making a cameo and comicbook super hero movies seem dead.

So Japan Sony vs Japan Sega...?

a wasted opportunity?

quote

Sony and Disney's deal has reportedly never prevented Spider-Man from appearing in any of Sony's spinoff films
Tom Holland's Spidey can be used
Sony thought audiences wouldn't accept him appearing in non-MCU films
Multiverse established definitive boundaries
(via @Variety
)

https://x.com/CultureCrave/status/1867791702460969214

the Spider-Man Universe was interesting characters like the Batman universe but their only success so far has been Venom, when 2022 Morbius came out the comicbook genre was dying, maybe Sony should have launched this Spider-Man universe years back when superhero comicbooks to movies were still a thing.

110 + Million?
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/box-office-kraven-the-hunter-openin
g-weekend-projection-1236243923/

in the post-Covid post comicbook super hero world

You can look forward to another 'Barbie'?
‘Barbie’ Sequel in “Early Stages” as Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach Settle
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/barbie-sequel-stat
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Saturday, December 14, 2024 9:28 AM

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‘Interstellar’ and ‘Coraline’ Rereleases Were Box Office Triumphs. Why Aren’t Studios Doing More?

By Ethan Shanfeld, Adam B. Vary | Dec 11, 2024 10:15am PT

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/interstellar-rerelease-box-office-s
uccess-old-movies-in-theaters-1236245101/

Tickets to Christopher Nolan’s 2014 space epic had been listed for weeks for as much as $215, after all 166 Imax screens sold out for the duration of the rerelease. Last weekend, “Interstellar” pulled in $4.57 million domestically, more than any new movie, and, at $27,500, a higher per-screen average than top grossers “Moana 2” and “Wicked.” Demand is so high, in fact, that Imax is expanding the theater count for next weekend.

“It reunited people with the movie theater that had been stuck in their house for a year,” he says. “We want butts in seats. We want eyeballs on that screen. It’s just good for the whole industry.”

“All of our content has added value to it,” Nutt says. “You’re going to get something that’s a little bit extra than just watching it on TV at home.”

The “little bit extra”? Not really worth traveling many miles, eating overpriced buttered popcorn, and paying outrageous ticket prices to sit with noisy strangers in the dark then empty your bladder in a stinking theater "restroom".

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Saturday, December 14, 2024 5:07 PM

Translation: Ethan hates being around people.

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Saturday, December 14, 2024 5:11 PM

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'Larven' it seemed like a weird character to push, how big was he as a brand name in the comicbooks and toons and video games?

I didn't know how to judge Kraven I thought ok maybe Sony with this movie could have some trick left maybe in marketing, however its off to a terrible start.

I'm only vaguely aware of him. I don't believe I ever owned a comic with Kraven, but I did collect Marvel cards when I was a kid and he was on some of them.

This is pure D-List shit here. I'm sure if the right people were put on it and an excellent story were crafted it could have done well, but we know that none of these people making comic book movies are interested in or capable of making good stories.

Giving Kraven his own movie would have been like if they gave Scarecrow his own movie without Batman in it instead of Batman Begins.

Stupid.

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Saturday, December 14, 2024 5:16 PM

Wow.... Color me shocked.

I was 100% convinced that when I looked up the director to Kraven it would be a no-name DEI hire with nothing but a few sub-$1 Million indie flicks to their name. I guess it's only Disney/Marvel that does this.

They got a dude named J.C. Chander to do it.

Probably still not a great pick despite being a white guy who has actually directed big budget movies before. His list is pretty short, but it does have Margin Call which I thought was a good movie. I don't recognize the other 3 movies on his list.

I think at this point, unless somebody is throwing them some insane amounts of money to do it, there just aren't any great directors out there who even want to touch a comic book movie anymore. Going forward having idiots who can't direct in comic book movies might not even be a DEI thing since it will be the only people they can get to put their names on them.

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Saturday, December 14, 2024 7:16 PM

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Quote:
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Translation: Ethan hates being around people.

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Do well-behaved movie audiences where you are from take a bath and dress up before arriving at the cathedral of motion picture artistry where they are shushed by the awesomeness of movie magic? Or is it more like going to Walmart, but there is nothing to take home with you after all the money you spent except an empty popcorn bucket that is also a greasy/salty souvenir of the experience?

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Saturday, December 14, 2024 8:54 PM

whats wrong no risks?

or maybe no boring charm?

Boring people with their own views on Documentaries

or the posh elite of gamer world?

https://bloody-disgusting.com/video-games/3848433/horror-games-largely
-shut-out-at-the-game-awards-2024-astro-bot-takes-game-of-the-year/

is it possible for cult to go mainstream, Peter Jackson did it by doing LOTR

Six of the best cult sequels out of the ’90s

https://mutantreviewersmovies.com/2024/12/14/six-of-the-best-cult-sequ
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how it went wrong goth horror comicbook revial?

The Crow 94 is Metal!

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Sunday, December 15, 2024 2:38 AM

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Translation: Ethan hates being around people.

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Do well-behaved movie audiences where you are from take a bath and dress up before arriving at the cathedral of motion picture artistry where they are shushed by the awesomeness of movie magic? Or is it more like going to Walmart, but there is nothing to take home with you after all the money you spent except an empty popcorn bucket that is also a greasy/salty souvenir of the experience?

Holy shit!

It has a sense of humor, folks!

Okay. You got me there buddy.

There is a reason why I could so very easily translate Ethan's explanation.

You and I don't go to the movie theaters. I'm assuming that maybe outside a rare special occasion that you haven't gone to the movie theaters much in at least the last 20 or so years too.

A lot of people aren't like you and I (and Ethan). They prefer to go out and socialize and be around other people for some reason. Don't pretend with me now that you're one of those people because you wouldn't be spending all your free time when not running your business shit posting on fireflyfans.net in 2024 if you were. There's no shame in it. You can own it.

As long as there's still fun to be had outside of the house, there will be people who go outside to have it. Even if that means just moving into another large box with a much larger rectangle and a much better sound system being the positive trade offs for potentially sitting with assholes, watching 30 minutes of commercials, and having carpet on your soles when you get home because they were so sticky from the liquid diabetes you were walking in to get to your seat that never gets cleaned up anymore.

There wasn't much fun to be had in theaters this year. A lot of stuff was pushed back a year or two or just cut from production completely.

Next year will be better. The only question is will it be better than 2023 was. If the answer to that question a year from now is no, they probably are in a bit of trouble.

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Sunday, December 15, 2024 9:20 AM

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I'm convinced that Hollywood's Abysmal Numbers are caused by technology. Home TV is better than the experience at the theater, but it remains a place where a carload of teenagers can go and be unsupervised by parents, so teens still go.

Hollywood has always made crap and yet people keep coming. From 2000: "One of the least entertaining satires ever made." "Spike Lee lost his nerve -- there are moments here, too, when it also seems like he lost his sense." https://www.metacritic.com/movie/bamboozled/

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Sunday, December 15, 2024 9:47 AM

It's a bad Saturday for KravenTheMovie, weekend looking to be around $10.5m.

https://x.com/EmpireCityBO/status/1868152593983414674

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Sunday, December 15, 2024 9:55 AM

Too late to save Hollyweird profits?

A Complete Unknown Called 'Riveting', 'Fascinating' and 'One of the Best Films of the Year' in First Reviews
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Sunday, December 15, 2024 5:21 PM