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Why Serenity II is not being made.
Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:18 AM
INVADERPET87
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: And would parlaiment be set in a bar, too? Played by cardboard cutouts? Maybe Summer's stalkers would be content with a half-assed "movie" that consists of her in a dark room rambling on about the love lives of politicians, but it sounds like utter dreck to me. Start with this: Add this: And this: Film it with stop-motion action using this: Find and update an old used script: There, I just made Serenity II for $ 112.49 Everybody wins....yeah!
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: And would parlaiment be set in a bar, too? Played by cardboard cutouts? Maybe Summer's stalkers would be content with a half-assed "movie" that consists of her in a dark room rambling on about the love lives of politicians, but it sounds like utter dreck to me.
Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:50 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: Making up a million dollar constraint is just silly. I thought you realized that and it was a joke. I never said a million dollar movie. But it doesn't need to be 45 million either. It also doesn't need to be scifi IMO. As I said they could shoot a whole movie off ship on one of the outer rim planets. The sets could be regular looking locations. They could cut a ton on special effects and on rebuilding all the Serenity sets and I'd be perfectly fine with it.
Thursday, February 3, 2011 9:59 AM
TWO
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Im not apologizing here. Because I know what I'm talking about. I just helped prep a movie with a million dollar budget. It doesn't go very far, and that was with no special effects, simple locations, and an all d-list and lower cast.
Thursday, February 3, 2011 10:23 AM
Thursday, February 3, 2011 10:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: The movie is/was called SLASH, and has Patricia Tillman (Babylon 5), Clare Grant (The Gates, Seth Green's wife) and Holly Madison (That Playboy reality show) attached, amongst others. But the original funding source is in question now, so the producers are talking about going to Lionsgate rather than financing it independently. I'm credited as co-writer (though to be honest, I don't care much for the script, I wasn't allowed to do many of the changes I felt it needed), and may end of being the production designer as well. I'd give you the direct IMDB link, but I can't access the site from work. There are several films with that title, but ours is the most recent listing. Syfy movies run between 1-2 million, so it depends. But most of those have 1 recognizable B or C list actor, with everyone else being unknowns for the most part. They also tend to have amateur or low level writers and directors. You know, to get a good script - writers like to be paid. Your example of the Hawaiian movie may have had FX, but from what you describe, they were just set extensions - which is one of the easiest to do. I could do that on my home PC in an hour or two.
Thursday, February 3, 2011 10:41 AM
Thursday, February 3, 2011 1:11 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Thursday, February 3, 2011 4:54 PM
ECGORDON
There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.
Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ecgordon: When is Two going to stop trying to convince us that they know how to write a better screenplay than Joss? . . . I could probably list hundreds of films that have confrontations between protagonist and antagonist that are equally illogical. It doesn't mean that Joss can't write a good action scene, just that he knows if it was written the way Two wanted it to be it would have negated the continued confrontation between Mal and The Operative.
Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:41 PM
INVADERCHAT
Friday, February 4, 2011 4:27 AM
ZEEK
Friday, February 4, 2011 7:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by two: Quote:Originally posted by ecgordon: When is Two going to stop trying to convince us that they know how to write a better screenplay than Joss? . . . I could probably list hundreds of films that have confrontations between protagonist and antagonist that are equally illogical. It doesn't mean that Joss can't write a good action scene, just that he knows if it was written the way Two wanted it to be it would have negated the continued confrontation between Mal and The Operative. There is movie in theaters, costing $15,000,000 to make, called The King's Speech. The script is riddled with gross falsifications of history having to do with Edward VIII and Nazis. Some have complained: “Churchill Didn't Say That” - www.slate.com/id/2282194/ Is it wrong to find fault with that award winning screenplay? The true story would have been fractionally more entertaining, less predictable.
Friday, February 4, 2011 9:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
Friday, February 4, 2011 10:14 AM
DOCTOROSSI
Quote:I think this is a bad trend in Hollywood, but Serenity II would be expensive because action movies must become more and more graphic if they are to penetrate our violence-hardened sensibilities.
Friday, February 4, 2011 10:31 AM
Friday, February 4, 2011 10:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Doctorossi: Quote:I think this is a bad trend in Hollywood, but Serenity II would be expensive because action movies must become more and more graphic if they are to penetrate our violence-hardened sensibilities. I think this premise is utterly fallacious, but even if I grant it, on what evidence does increased graphic violence/body-count equate to an increased production budget?
Friday, February 4, 2011 11:03 AM
Friday, February 4, 2011 11:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: And what from Firefly.... or ANY of Joss' work, makes you think he'd WANT to do a story with NO violence??
Friday, February 4, 2011 11:37 AM
Saturday, February 5, 2011 4:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: And there ya go.
Saturday, February 5, 2011 2:14 PM
Saturday, February 5, 2011 4:23 PM
Quote:Good to see you just signed up for fireflyfans.net, Doctorossi.
Sunday, February 6, 2011 8:50 AM
OPPYH
Quote:Originally posted by two: Is it wrong to find fault with that award winning screenplay? The true story would have been fractionally more entertaining, less predictable.
Sunday, February 6, 2011 10:04 AM
Monday, February 7, 2011 5:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by two: Tin Man (TV 2007) www.imdb.com/title/tt0910812/ SyFy has a lengthy history of producing terrible original programming, but Tin Man is several cuts above their usual dreck. Sure, the special effects are poor and some ideas seem half-baked, but the good storytelling goes a long way towards overcoming these problems.
Monday, February 7, 2011 7:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: anytime they want to show flying monkeys leap out of a hot chick's chest I'm there. I would definitely take a Serenity 2 with effects of that quality. Especially if we get the same air time as tin man. That got what like 6 hours of air time?
Tuesday, February 8, 2011 7:03 AM
AV32PRODUCTIONS
Tuesday, February 8, 2011 7:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by two: Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: anytime they want to show flying monkeys leap out of a hot chick's chest I'm there. I would definitely take a Serenity 2 with effects of that quality. Especially if we get the same air time as tin man. That got what like 6 hours of air time? Tin Man was 3 episodes, 90 minutes each without commercials. Flying monkey tattoo of the Wicked Witch. Who gets the magical tattoo in Serenity II? Inara because she bares a lot of skin? River because she's weird and witchy? Kaylee because she's into tattoos? Or is it Jayne because he already has tattoos?
Saturday, January 7, 2012 11:34 AM
TONIROMAN
Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:31 PM
RIVERTAM1
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayl!
Quote:Originally posted by SULIEN: *sigh* Why is it that no sci-fi fans ever win the Mega Millions lottery jackpot? I'd bankroll Serenity II if I hit it big, that's for certain. Come to think of it, it's a pity Bill Gates isn't a Browncoat. :-/
Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:04 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: I really wonder about a made for TV movie or mini-series. It seems like a good percentage of nerdy internet folks are at least casual fans of Firefly. I'd think just the announcement alone would set the internet on fire for a few weeks. The non-fans would have to wonder what it is everyone is suddenly so excited for. That should boost DVD sales and the movie or mini-series would be an event with a lot of buzz around it. I'd think that would be worth it. Maybe our fanbase isn't strong enough for an ongoing series, but I'd bet that most fans would tune in for a one night or one week event.
Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by two: Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: anytime they want to show flying monkeys leap out of a hot chick's chest I'm there. I would definitely take a Serenity 2 with effects of that quality. Especially if we get the same air time as tin man. That got what like 6 hours of air time? Tin Man was 3 episodes, 90 minutes each without commercials. Flying monkey tattoo of the Wicked Witch. Who gets the magical tattoo in Serenity II? Inara because she bares a lot of skin? River because she's weird and witchy? Kaylee because she's into tattoos? Or is it Jayne because he already has tattoos? The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two
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