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Originally posted by freelancertex:
Dobson died...

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Originally posted by nbz:

I doubt that is Boros.

Boros was described in the Pilot episode as teaming with Alliance. I would expect it to be fairly built up.

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Originally posted by freelancertex:


I'd read Those Left Behind if i knew where to find it. I had the impression Dobson + being shot in the head = most decidedly deceased.

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Originally posted by asarian:
and no where in canon has Dobson's death really been confirmed.

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Originally posted by RiverFlan:

And as for the topic, I think that the reason why they had Boros as a destination was to pick up more passengers, and I don't think they really were going to go to Boros anyway. They just wanted to get into space so when they figured out where to sell the cargo they'd already have some distance covered.

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Originally posted by RiverFlan:

And as for the topic, I think that the reason why they had Boros as a destination was to pick up more passengers, and I don't think they really were going to go to Boros anyway. They just wanted to get into space so when they figured out where to sell the cargo they'd already have some distance covered.

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It is entirely possible that what you say is true: that they never meant to go there anyway. However, two things leap to mind that make me not so sure:

1): They already had their cargo onboard, and had planned to sell it right there, on Persephone, to Badger. That plan fell through, and Zoe suggested they sell it on Boros instead. To which Mal rightly pointed out -- them being Alliance goods and all, and Boros somewhat crawling with Alliance -- that the risk of doing so was too high, and that it would have to be somewhere else on the rim (which turned out to be, somewhat reluctantly, Whitefall, as we all know). My long-winded point being: I don't think they planned on going to Boros only after the deal with Badger got busted.

2): Simon had definite plans to bring River to Boros. So, if everything were right... well, they'd be in jail. :) But other than that, if everything had gone according to plan, it stands to reason they'd delivered Simon and box on Boros, right?

On the other hand, the Train Job takes place at a small mining moon, called Regina. Now, my planetary knowledge of the 'Verse has always been somewhat limited (on account of my brain missing), but I believe Regina, together with Whitefall and Higgin's Moon, is one of the three moons orbiting Athens (Ezra, the barren moon that Niska has his space station, is near Greenleaf and Lilac, all orbiting a gas giant called Georgia).

So, where does that leave us? Much of the maps are somewhat speculative/tentative, but if it's true that Regina really is quite opposite on the map to Boros, I dunno, then still going to Boros would make their trip to Whitefall and Ezra (to drop of the goods on Niska's doorstep) quite a detour.


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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

Where do you get Regina as the planet with Paradiso and Hancock? What reference is that from?

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When they leave atmo from the U-day bar (which has 3 very close moons), they pass by a planet with rings - do you think this is Beylix - I haven't seen another body indicated with rings. Is the U-Day bar supposed to be on a moon of Beylix?

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I would appear this is due for an updated query for the sake of clarity.

Please select one of the following options, which you feel is most likely, or why 2 or more are likely.

1. Serenity did not go to Boros after the end of the Pilot. Originally scheduled to get there within a week, they did not get there within 2 weeks, not before Shindig.

2. Serenity did get to Boros on schedule (day or 2 late), before The Train Job. River was put to sleep for this week, and Book was still not situated well after this week, and did not get off at Boros. Serenity and the Tams successfully evaded the Alliance at Boros.

3. Serenity did get to Boros, just not on schedule. They went after The Train Job, got to Boros within a week of when they planned. Serenity and the Tams evaded the Alliance at Boros.

4. None of the above. Please explain.

Thanks for all your input.

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Originally posted by nbz:
There has to be enough passage of time between the pilot and TTJ to allow Kaylee to heal from her bullet wound. (she could not even walk at the end of the pilot!)

No idea how much time this would take.

Ofcourse there is the other conundrum that Shepherd Book and Mal do not seem to have spent much time together. Nor has Mal been introduced to River (or he has and she is forgetful).

How to put all this together? Simple. Mal got off at Boros, got back on where ever they were when TTJ started. Opens up a whole can of worms too.

This will allow Kaylee to get better, the crew to be more relaxed (they were on edge in the pilot), and Mal not be better acquainted with Book or River. Or even Simon.

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