Out of Gas by xrcst

FIREFLY EPISODE DISCUSSIONS

Out of Gas

POSTED BY: XRCST
UPDATED: Sunday, June 6, 2004 19:16
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Saturday, May 8, 2004 2:19 PM

XRCST

So was anyone else startled with you Kaylee joined the crew?

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Saturday, May 8, 2004 2:56 PM

SLOWSMURF

It was such a great introduction to her character, and the speech to convince her(which I heard was a last minute rewrite) was a wonderfully delivered line("Wanna?")

I actually was forced to show that episode to my dad as his first one, so he got quite confused by the introduction of her :) He thought it was wonderful though, loved the dry humor and such.

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Friday, May 21, 2004 10:37 AM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1

Quote:
Originally posted by xrcst:
So was anyone else startled with you Kaylee joined the crew?

I like how it shows that Kaylee keeps her innocence with out actually being innocent. i was shocked a bit at first...but i got over it in like .5 seconds

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Friday, May 21, 2004 11:20 AM

HEB

I'm still trying to decide whether to listen to the Out of Gas Dvd commentary or not. I love the episode so much and it's the one episode that if I'm gonna watch it I will always sit down and watch it properly all in one go as it's so perfect as a whole. So I'm not sure whether I'd like to see it broken down or analysed or talked over at all. I don't want to watch the episode again and be thinking 'oh this is where he said this and such and such a happened behind the scenes'.

Does anyone know what the commentary is like? Should I watch it or not?

Well, my sister's a ship... we had a
complicated childhood

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Friday, May 21, 2004 11:59 AM

PURPLEBELLY

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Originally posted by heb:
So I'm not sure whether I'd like to see it broken down or analysed or talked over at all.

I haven't heard the commentary, but did consider not joining this community for similar reasons.

My take on it is this. No-one can take away or invalidate your experience of Out of Gas. What happened in your head is what made it art; a commentary cannot be definitive, because it doesn't include your experience.

So if the commentary doesn't aid your further experience of Out of Gas, just forget it - which you should probably do with most of what you read here

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Friday, May 21, 2004 12:04 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

Even though in general I am not a fan of commentaries, I eventually listened to all of the ones on the Firefly DVDs. I can't decide for you whether you should listen to them or not, but in the case of "Out of Gas" I don't think you would be missing out on a lot if you never heard it. In fact the only commentary I would not want to be without is Joss' on "Objects in Space."

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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 4:03 AM

HOAGIE

personally i am a fan of commentaries but that's because i wanted to know what sort of process they used to write/stage the different things. i pretend i'm a writer occasionallyand i am a recent convert to Joss's style so i need all the help i can get.

what the commentary does (for me anyway) is enhance the experience, not diminish it. Out of Gas, while it is genius, will never lose it's glimmer if you love it that much. Tim Minear doesn't do a lot of "oh and Jeff the grip droped his sandwich in the fram here and we had to digitally remove it" kind of commentary, it's very story oriented comments. i think you're safe

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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 5:24 AM

FLOATER68

I have to admit that they got me good when Mal says, "...we finally got ourselves a genius mechanic.", and Bester walks across the screen.

As far as the commentary, it's mostly Joss talking about the lighting and camera angles and so forth. It's interesting and it certainly doesn't take anything away from the episode but you really haven't missed anything by not watching it.

F68

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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:56 PM

I thought Kaylee's introduction was perfect; it was a great reminder that, although she seems like a lovely, wonderful person, she does chase the fellas. She likes 'em, and she'll grapple with one she likes if she has an oppurtunity to do so.

Have to disagree on the commentary thing, though. I thought Joss' commentaries were fascinating, with the lighting, and the camera, and the shiny bits of metal; after hearing all that, you realise just how much cool stuff they were doing to make this a very cool show.

JK

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 3:50 PM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.

I'm a huge fan of Kaylee's and I thought this was an excellent way for her to have been brought onto Serenity. Plus, I just didn't like Bester, and was happy that he left, and that it didn't take any longer than it had to.

I'm sure a few people were like "How could she". I always looked at it like Hey, Bester ain't ugly, and this was her first opportunity to see a Firefly up close. Plus, engines get her hot.

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Saturday, June 5, 2004 10:26 PM

FIREFLEW

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Originally posted by SlowSmurf:

I actually was forced to show that episode to my dad as his first one, so he got quite confused by the introduction of her :) He thought it was wonderful though, loved the dry humor and such.

Yes, it was the same when I showed this episode to my Dad, the kinda, "?" element in that scene.

Jayne: "Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I beat you with till you understand who's in command."

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Sunday, June 6, 2004 9:29 AM

SCOTTISHBROWNCOAT

In my humble opinion the fact that Kaylee was gettin' it on just makes sense, He Wasn't ugly and after all everyone else can have a turn so why can't she?
People have sex, or at least intend to...well except for Book, but we all know that he just redirects his energy...

Which brings me to an observation....

Part of the fantastic writing on the show involves the freedom that sex is given.
It is an understood activity without people coming off as trashy, because it is handled as naturally as possible, and it seems like people(and I am just basing this off the crew) are more open with sex, talkin about it and what not.
Hell, Jayne has no problem lettin' everyone know what he has planned "I'll be in my bunk."

Also, in Heart of Gold, did anyone else catch that slang for Gay...sly...now that is a good one

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Sunday, June 6, 2004 9:46 AM

PURPLEBELLY

Quote:
Originally posted by manwithpez:
I'm sure a few people were like "How could she". I always looked at it like Hey, Bester ain't ugly, and

My take on the introduction is that it gets us passed the idea that Mal may have employed Kaylee because she was cute; he was already employing a cute mechanic

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Sunday, June 6, 2004 11:06 AM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.

Jayne don't care. He would say "I'll be in my bunk." to his momma. Then again, maybe not. You don't get knitted wool caps with a pom pom if you're a bad boy to your mother. But, it works on Kaylee. You're right, and I hadn't thought that Mal had hired Kaylee because she was cute (I would). It not the kind of thing he would do. There's only been one character Mal has shown absolute love and affection for and that's Serenity. I don't think he would hire someone to take care of her based on their looks. But, this scene quashed all that anyways. He hired Kaylee in an embarassing moment. But, I don't think the sex was all that great for her anyways. I mean, while she was on her back earlier, she was looking at engine parts.

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Sunday, June 6, 2004 11:22 AM

ANKHAGOGO

Quote:
Originally posted by manwithpez:
He hired Kaylee in an embarassing moment.

I think that scene says us alot about Kaylee. Kaylee wasn't embarassed that Mal busted in on them. Mal was, but Kaylee was just all, "oh, don't mind me, hi, howya doin'?" She didn't run squeaking for cover, like lots of chicks would have, she didn't try to "accidentally" flash Mal or give him any knowing smirks, as a girl like Saffron would have, and she didn't even try to apologize. Her reaction was more like "oops", like she'd stepped on his foot or something. To her she wasn't doing anything wrong, so there was no reason to be
embarassed. It didn't bother her, and not in a calculated, seductive femme fatale kind of way. She just really didn't care. That's alot of what made her come across as "not a hoochie mama" (although I doubt any of us would ever think of labelling Kaylee so) --- the absolute lack of self-consciousness. It's one of the things I love about her.

"Well personally, I kinda want to slay the dragon."

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Sunday, June 6, 2004 4:14 PM

SHINYSEVEN

The strawberry is the key...I know most of you weren't around to notice, but the strawberry was *the* 1970s all purpose flavor/fragrance, and Kaylee has a real 1970s hippie vibe.

She likes cute boys, engines, and really likes cute boys in close conjunction with engines...kind of like the Mile High Club. Or indeed the proverbial Farmer's Daughter and Traveling Salesman. But as for Good Goats...let's not go there.

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Sunday, June 6, 2004 6:24 PM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.

I guess I should have clarified...I didn't mean Kaylee was embarassed....Mal was.

Very

What a prude.

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Sunday, June 6, 2004 7:16 PM

THUNDAR

Speaking of engine parts. In Ariel when Kaylee and Wash are in the junkyard, notice what Wash throws, right before he sees their future ambulance.

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