AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.

I think Agent Phil Coulson was brought back to life

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Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:34 AM

ANONYMOUS1



by Dr. Strange and the physical therapist was Dr. Strange's disciple/lover Clea.

My theory is that Agent Coulson doesn't like magic. Maybe because he was killed by
Loki or maybe even before.

Agent Coulson fav hero is Captain America who got his powers from science.

Magic is mentioned several times in the episode. When a hologram is shown,
Fitz says something like It looks like magic but it's science.

"Tahiti. It's a magical place."

If this statement
"a physical therapist whose command of English was... irrelevant."
means that the physical therapist spoke some unknown language.

Note that Coulson doesn't say if the physical therapist was a man or woman.

The word "irrelevant" seems odd in the sentence. Maybe a magic placeholder
for when Coulson memory is going to remember something he shouldn't.

Dr. Strange's friend/lover Clea is from somewhere not earth and
maybe did not speak English around Agent Coulson. Also magic spells might not have
been in English.

A reason Coulson should never know how he was brought back could be a dislike of magic
or that if he knew, he would no longer consider himself to be real.

So I'm going to keep an eye out for
1. ... pauses and the word "irrelevant"
2. word magic
3. was the physical therapist a man or woman. Woman would have white or blond hair like Clea.
4. see if Agent Coulson doesn't like magic.




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Sunday, September 29, 2013 11:34 PM

WISHIMAY

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I haven't enough concrete indications to form an opinion, especially with Joss, things don't ever fully appear to be what you think they could.

The wording certainly WAS carefully chosen, for sure...

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Monday, September 30, 2013 10:58 AM

STORYMARK


Doubtful, since Dr. Strange won't be coming along for at least 3 more years.

Im betting that Coulson is a Life Model Decoy, as many have speculated. Worth noting: In the comics, the Decoys are originally created by the Zodiac Key. They day SHIELD premiered, they also released Iron Man 3 on DVD - which included the short film "Agent Carter," which featured Peggy Carter (from Captain America) on a mission to retrieve something called... "The Zodiac." Once retrieved, the device went into SHIELD storage...




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Monday, September 30, 2013 12:28 PM

ZEEK


Yeah Life Model Decoy seems like the most obvious choice. Which means it could be a big fake out.

I'll be looking for any signs that Coulson is stronger, faster, more durable, etc. than would normally be expected.

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Monday, September 30, 2013 12:47 PM

MOOSE


My bet is an LMD, but that really would be a cool way to intro Dr. Strange into the franchise.

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Monday, September 30, 2013 3:58 PM

REDLAVA


I am going to say tht he is a machine / cyborg, whatever. Ron Glass' character made the comment that "he really doesn't know, does he" or something like that.

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Monday, September 30, 2013 5:20 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by REDLAVA:
I am going to say tht he is a machine / cyborg, whatever. Ron Glass' character made the comment that "he really doesn't know, does he" or something like that.



That's what he said and Maria Hill said "He can never know". That is very open ended though. Could be just about anything.

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Monday, September 30, 2013 5:40 PM

STORYMARK


Yeah, that was about as generic "there's a mystery here, folks!" dialog as you'll ever hear.




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Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:18 PM

GRRARRG


Did anyone else notice in the pilot, when Gunn's character blew the door off of skye's van - Coulson seemed like he did a Matrix-style backward bend to avoid it.

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Monday, October 7, 2013 10:25 AM

ZEEK


I'm starting to give a little more thought to a "magical" reason for why Coulson's back. The reference to Tahiti being a "magical place" is interesting. I kinda hope they don't use magic though. I think it will turn off a good portion of the mass audience.

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Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:31 AM

ZEEK


Well now it seems his muscle memory is gone. So, that pretty much means clone or life model decoy, right? That or he really is rusty and it's all misdirection. Somehow I think this show is too mainstream for them to pull something like that though.

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Friday, October 18, 2013 8:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
I'm starting to give a little more thought to a "magical" reason for why Coulson's back. The reference to Tahiti being a "magical place" is interesting. I kinda hope they don't use magic though. I think it will turn off a good portion of the mass audience.



I think Scarlet Witch is in the next Avengers movie.

So maybe it was the Scarlet Witch.

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Saturday, January 4, 2014 10:41 PM

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Did anyone else notice his "Dollhouse" moment at the very end of one of the episodes? It showed him in Tahiti, getting a massage, and he said, "Did I fall asleep?" and the masseuse responded, "For a little while."
I have to think that was some inside-reference clue that his consciousness was placed in another body somehow. I know there have been other little bits (the missing muscle memory was the first time I started thinking he was a clone or LMD) but that one really made me sit up and take notice.



What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:05 AM

ZEEK


Well the latest episode revealed some stuff. At the very least we know they implanted memories. It's still not clear how exactly they brought him back or why. Hand was bringing up a point that no SHIELD agent would get the kind of resources devoted to their recovery that Coulson got. So, is there something inherently special about him?

Also, I'm throwing it out there that I think Hand might be the "clairvoyant". It wouldn't be that she's psychic just that she has high level clearance and has access to a lot of information through SHIELD. That's how Centipede knows so much about Coulson's past. It's in his file. However, I'm thinking Coulson's resurrection is either not in his file at all or requires even higher clearance and that is what intrigues her about him.

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Wednesday, January 8, 2014 3:05 PM

ECGORDON

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Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Also, I'm throwing it out there that I think Hand might be the "clairvoyant".


Good guess. It has to be someone on the inside. I just hope it's not Dr. Streiten.



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Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:59 PM

PDCHARLES

What happened? He see your face?


Show is improving... ...and it needed to. Bill Paxton to make a four episode arc surely doesn't hurt. GAME OVER MAN!!!! Big marvel reader from the 80's and 90's. Not sure what happened in the cartoons.

On Coulson:
My initial thought at the beginning of the season was Coulson is an LMD. But the 2nd half opener shows a robot keeping his brain alive (memory implants as well). They also show a quick space shot and some green liquid. Inhumans, which marvel plans a push for, are derived from terrigen mists. Marvels "other" mutants basically. BUT FOX owns the mutants/x-men/x-titles. Meanwhile, Clark Gregg tweets something like "Seems almost... Inhuman" Now, that could mean robot, LMD too, buuttt.... Guardians of the Galaxy which is coming out this Summer involves a Kree (Ronan), which has something to do with the Inhumans. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..... who knows, wild speculation here. :)

on Skye:
I've heard she may be Jessica Drew (Spider woman), not knowing if Sony owns the rights to that or not. But, that doesn't explain the village and agents being killed over a baby.

Clairvoyant:
still no clue, MODOK maybe. HYDRA and AIM are already mentioned in the MCU. Centipede is HYDRA. Some have suggested ultron who will be the antagonist of Avengers2 since he is an advanced AI, but IDK. I am pretty sure AoS will lead to Cap2: the winter soldier uncovering how corrupt/infiltrated SHIELD really is.

Other tidbits:
Girl in the flower dress could be someone from the Savage land.

I am almost certain Mike Peterson is Deathlok after scene with him with missing limbs, an eye, burns, etc






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Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:08 PM

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I just got caught up w/ the eps, and wow... didn't see most of that comin'.

Skye and the village being wiped out , that stuff ... seems iffy. As in , maybe they still need to flush out the rest of that story,but so far, they only have an outline ? Not sure what was meant about 'death follows her', or what ever. If the last time he saw her was as an infant, how would he really know ?

I was hoping for better Tahiti story, but I guess we got what we got.


Must be tough to have them writing story lines with multiple BIG characters ( Hulk, Thor, Capt America, Iron Man,et al ) to work in/ around/ even if they're all in the background.

Glad I'm up to speed now, at least.

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Friday, January 31, 2014 12:15 AM

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Friday, January 31, 2014 10:06 AM

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Hey 1kiki, and anyone else who is reading this, I am sure I am not the only one who would appreciate it if you would keep your RWED discussions and feuds out of all the other forums. Thank you for your compliance in the future. :)




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Friday, January 31, 2014 11:42 AM

STORYMARK


Agreed.

And back on topic - J. August Richards has been confirmed to return - as Deathlock. His origin will be a bit different from the comic (Mike Peterson never existed in the comic), but he'll still be a sorta-dead cyborg.








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Friday, January 31, 2014 11:42 AM

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Double.

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Friday, January 31, 2014 7:43 PM

AURAPTOR

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Not being an Avengers Fanboy here, I'm at a disadvantage in knowing characters and back story, etc.

Same goes w/ X Men, or pretty much any comic book hero saga brought to the big / small screen.

I guess I fall more in w/ the 'general public' audience on this stuff. But it's still fun to see true fans pipe up and add their comments.




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Thursday, February 6, 2014 7:41 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Most recent episode reminded me of The Train Job. Mainly because it involves so many of the same elements.

Oh, and a pretty girl gets shot in the abdomen. At close range. OMG ! Does she live ??

Tune in and find out!

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Monday, March 24, 2014 7:18 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I'm wondering if Joss could transfer this death-reversing thing to The Verse with Wash and Book.

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Thursday, April 3, 2014 10:40 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Well the latest episode revealed some stuff. At the very least we know they implanted memories. It's still not clear how exactly they brought him back or why. Hand was bringing up a point that no SHIELD agent would get the kind of resources devoted to their recovery that Coulson got. So, is there something inherently special about him?

Also, I'm throwing it out there that I think Hand might be the "clairvoyant". It wouldn't be that she's psychic just that she has high level clearance and has access to a lot of information through SHIELD. That's how Centipede knows so much about Coulson's past. It's in his file. However, I'm thinking Coulson's resurrection is either not in his file at all or requires even higher clearance and that is what intrigues her about him.



Potentially nailed it. Unless they're just pulling more misdirection.

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Thursday, April 3, 2014 11:20 AM

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Monday, April 7, 2014 9:12 AM

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Seems there is a direct tie in with events of Winter Soldier & AoS .



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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:16 PM

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Am I the only one confused as to what the hell just happened ?

I guess I missed the part where Agent Ward shot the wrong Clairvoyant.

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 10:18 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


He shot the wrong Clairvoyant last week, but then again, he knew it was the wrong one then. Not sure Garrett actually is the Clairvoyant, but Ward is Hydra along with Garrett. Why was that confusing?



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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:

He shot the wrong Clairvoyant last week, but then again, he knew it was the wrong one then. Not sure Garrett actually is the Clairvoyant, but Ward is Hydra along with Garrett. Why was that confusing?





Because I must have missed that part last week, and I really did think that top level chick was part of Hydra. The who's - who game of Hydra or SHIELD is very cleverly done.

I'm digging the tie in w/ the Winter Soldier , though.

# 1 at the box office last week.

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:47 PM

MOOSE


I haven't seen the latest episode (4/8) nor Winter Soldier.
Should I watch one before the other?

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Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:20 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
I haven't seen the latest episode (4/8) nor Winter Soldier.
Should I watch one before the other?



Absolutely watch Winter Soldier first IMO. They give away some plot details from the movie in the episode.

The movie really ratcheted up the tension for the show. Which was the plan from the start from what I'm reading. Pretty dang cool. Just a really slow burn for a new show. They needed something to happen before now to keep the viewers interested. Anyway it will be interesting to see where the ratings go from here.

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Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:32 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


With apologies to Joss, The Winter Soldier is in my opinion the best MCU production yet, not only in the action scenes and FX, but also character development. And they were not kidding when they said it, "Changes Everything." I am glad I saw it yesterday before the new SHIELD episode.

I can't see how SHIELD's ratings won't be climbing from now to the season finale. With Avengers 2 out next year and Cap3 the year after, there's no reason for ABC not to renew SHIELD even if the ratings are flat the rest of the year.

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Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:36 PM

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America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
With apologies to Joss, The Winter Soldier is in my opinion the best MCU production yet, not only in the action scenes and FX, but also character development. And they were not kidding when they said it, "Changes Everything." I am glad I saw it yesterday before the new SHIELD episode.

I can't see how SHIELD's ratings won't be climbing from now to the season finale. With Avengers 2 out next year and Cap3 the year after, there's no reason for ABC not to renew SHIELD even if the ratings are flat the rest of the year.



I cringed a bit when I heard a review of TWS where they said " it's better than The Avengers! ". That, to me, sounded like a studio desperate to get fans into the theatre, as if they'd not be buying tickets anyways.

Yes. I thought it was very good. I'll likely go see it again. Soon. But better ? To each their own.

As for Agents of Shield, things got real in a hurry. I thought the tie in w/ the movie was damn near excellent. And they did it w/ OUT being over the top either. If you saw the episode and hadn't seen the movie, you're really gonna want to now.

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I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:14 AM

ZEEK


So, I was curious and went to look up the ratings. Apparently Agents of SHIELD hit an all time low this week. I'm baffled. I would have thought people who saw the movie and used to watch the show would come back to see how they were gonna handle it. Best I can think is maybe a lot of people haven't seen the movie and heard that they really need to see it before watching further episodes.

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Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:43 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


SHIELD has regularly had about the highest percentage boost from DVR and online viewing than any other show this year. More and more people are not tied to the networks' broadcast schedule. So, it may not look so great when you look at the LIVE numbers, but then there's Live+Same Day, Live+3 Days and Live+7 Days that the suits are relying on more these days. I still say it is unlikely that SHIELD will be cancelled. ABC, Disney & Marvel have too much at stake to abandon it now.

Of course, I've been wrong before.



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Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:50 AM

MIKER

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Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:58 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Not necessarily confusing, just surprising, as it was for Coulson too.


Huh?

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Saturday, May 10, 2014 12:14 PM

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:37 PM

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It sounds a lot like Total Recall, doesn't it?

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:10 AM

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:27 AM

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Quote:

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Michael Jace, 'The Shield' star, questioned over shooting death of wife

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/shield-star-michael-jace-held
-questioned-wife-shooting-article-1.1798827



Wrong "Shield" Mike. That's the cop show that starred Michael Chiklis.



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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:54 AM

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 2:20 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


If by robot you mean Deathlok, aka Mike Peterson, that actor's name is J. August Richards, who previously played Charles Gunn on an earlier Joss show, "Angel."



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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:57 PM

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Monday, July 21, 2014 8:36 PM

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Exclusive: Lucy Lawless Heading to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Agents-SHIELD-Lucy-Lawless-Season2-1084667
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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:12 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Exclusive: Lucy Lawless Heading to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Agents-SHIELD-Lucy-Lawless-Season2-1084667
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Nice. She impressed me on Battlestar Galactica. She should be a good addition.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Exclusive: Lucy Lawless Heading to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Agents-SHIELD-Lucy-Lawless-Season2-1084667
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Nice. She impressed me on Battlestar Galactica. She should be a good addition.



Yea she was excellent on Battlestar.


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I think Agent Phil Coulson was brought back to life
Tue, July 22, 2014 17:29 - 49 posts

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