It's the Pax! . . Sort of. by Cybersnark

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It's the Pax! . . Sort of.

POSTED BY: CYBERSNARK
UPDATED: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:17
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Thursday, December 8, 2005 6:29 AM

The headline made me sit up and take notice.

http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002000.html

I can see where this is going. . .

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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Thursday, December 8, 2005 6:36 AM

CALLMESERENITY

That's freaky.

Serenity, First Officer of Destiny

I have a live journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/callmeserenity/

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Thursday, December 8, 2005 6:53 AM

MAL4PREZ

Leave it to our government to invent something like Agent Buzz (whatta name) which is supposed to render the enemy useless, but actually it makes them MORE effective and they end up using it on themselves.

That is what the article says, right? Is it serious? If so, too funny. In a really really scary way.

Ask Dr. Science ... he knows more than you do.
"I have a Master's degree ... in science!"

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Thursday, December 8, 2005 7:00 AM

IMALEAF

That is scary.....

~~River: Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logics. Doesn't make sense.~~

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Thursday, December 8, 2005 12:26 PM

DC4BS

No, not more effective on BZ. just hyper agressive. As likely to attack their own side as anyone else. Also, less able to fight efectively.

There were other drugs mentioned in the article that would have various effects that might be helpfull to a suicide fighter that may have been confusing.

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FOX Execs...

dc4bs

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Thursday, December 8, 2005 1:22 PM

GUNRUNNER

This isn’t the 1st time the US Military has gone up against enemies on drugs. During Somalia enemy fighters would take this stuff called Khat (I think that’s how its spelled) that would make them very hard to take down. In the words of Jayne “saw that coming…”

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Thursday, December 8, 2005 3:43 PM

URSULA

Quote:
Originally posted by dc4bs:
As likely to attack their own side as anyone else.

Apparently the Fox programming executives have been taking this drug, too, given their cancellation of some of the best stuff on TV.

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Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:55 AM

R1Z

Not a new concept--the kamikazes used saki to take the rough edge off.

Fighters in relatively unstructured paramilitary organizations that can't count on organization, logistics or (air or ground) support to clinch a victory (who else would become a suicide bomber?) often rely on chemical "enhancers". Kind of odd, really, that they're being used in a culture that eschews recreational drugs AND alcohol, but then Islam supposedly also eschews the killing of innocent civilians. . .

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:23 AM

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

ooh, I tried to open the link and it won't let me- ye know too much...

"I'm an artist, with an e and a beret."

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:33 AM

QUIETUDE

Looks like someone is trying to kill the signal.

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:44 AM

CHRISISALL

This is all fantasy-driven left wing nonsense!
Seen 'Conspiracy Theory' a few too many times, have we?
Next I'll hear that we're developing microwave guns for combat- right? And robots to use them....

Actually, it wouldn't surprise me in the least Chrisisall

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:33 AM

R1Z

Quote:
Next I'll hear that we're developing microwave guns for combat- right? And robots to use them....

Don't know about microwave guns, but in the early '70s, (a time of campus riots,) word was the military was researching the resonant frequency of the human rectal sphincter muscle, with a view to creating a "sonic cannon" that would render mobs incapable of combat. Problem was that frequencies that low are nearly omni-directional, so it impacted the folk deploying it as well as the rioting mob.

Just telling you what I heard years after from an eminent acoustician.

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:16 AM

EVERYWORLDSPINNIN

Actually, many of the armed robberies committed in the US are done by people who get all "hopped up" on crack, coke, etc. so they can get up the nerve by feeling invincable.

"The last thing I want is that any of our descendents should look back in some years and despise us for not daring to act when we had so much capacity to act. We must dare to seek how, why and on what we agree. We shall thus be able to join together to look for alternative solutions and new ways of managing the world's challenges. Being diverse is our richness, acting together will be our strength". (Federico Mayor; 02-04-01;
UBUNTU Constituent Meeting).

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:52 PM

ANA

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
This is all fantasy-driven left wing nonsense!
Seen 'Conspiracy Theory' a few too many times, have we?
Next I'll hear that we're developing microwave guns for combat- right? And robots to use them....

Actually, it wouldn't surprise me in the least Chrisisall

You have to remember, the government that started this whack-a-doo chemical program was the same government that tried to assassinate Fidel Castro with both an exploding cigar AND an exploding conch shell. I am absolutely, 100% not kidding.

In other words, no idea is so ludicrous that *some* government employee won't think that it sounds like a good thing to spend millions of dollars on.

Regarding the parallels between "Agent Buzz" and the Pax in "Serenity", it is kinda creepifying to think about.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:32 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Bah, getting biffed and spliffed before going out to battle's been going on since at LEAST 900AD, the Hashshashin were extremely fond of erm, hashing things out (bad pun!

) in this fashion.

Not to mention, yea verily, and FIND me a sober Viking, eh ?

It's not like this has ever been an uncommon thing, nope nope.

-F

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:10 AM

CHRISISALL

Verily, be there a reward for my microwave idea?
*hic*

Chrisisall the Red, sober Viking (Sorta...)

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:56 PM

FILLYGIRL

Operative: "Its worse than you know..." Mal: "It usually is."

Doesn't this sound like 'Reavers'....isn't that the final outcome? I know the Alliance was trying to make everybody 'happy, or content' but this is what they got

...it's worst than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

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Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:51 AM

BOWIE

The celts where seen as Barbs to the Romans, one reason being they had their wine pure, fresh, and unwater, in other words super strong, and they were feared because they seemed without feer willing to die instead of back down even if the odds were very far away from their favour. One reason has been thought to be the super strong wine took the fear away.

If you play Nationstates.net check out the region Firefly.

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Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:17 AM

BLINKER

So in some folk, it causes such a languorous stupor that the most you can do is lie down and channel all your energy into forcing yourself to breathe, whereas in others, it causes a hyperaggressive berserker fury?

Huh. Nope, can't say I've ever heard of anything like that before. *whistles*

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