Best, smartest, most accurate, piece of gold great super-hero movies ever made.. by babywiththepower

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Best, smartest, most accurate, piece of gold great super-hero movies ever made..

POSTED BY: BABYWITHTHEPOWER
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Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:22 PM

I felt it needed a counter point.

I would say:

Superman
X-Men
Spiderman
The Punisher
and Batman Begins

Now, though I agree that Keaton will always be Batman in my mind, Bale did a fantastic job filling the role, and in my opinion, did a much better job at portraying Bruce Wayne then Keaton did. What else you all got?

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Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:24 PM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER

Just realised I mistakingly put this in the general discussion category. Can a moderator move it for me?

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Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:28 PM

RIVER6213

And you also already chose all the accurate and best superhero movies. That list represents all the current SH movies that were done right.

River

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Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:34 PM

BLUEEYEDBRIGADIER

Hmm...like I noted in the crap superhero movie thread...I have basically enjoyed every hero movie I've seen for one reason or another;)

Still...I would drop the following:

1. Batman Begins - just seemed to do the character up right, without the camp that Schumacher and the 60s series had or the horror elements Burton injected into his films

2. The Punisher (Thomas Jane version) - only one I have seen in entirety, but definitely a whole lot more faithful to the comics in the nature of Frank Castle, his vendetta and the tone of the film than the Dolph Lundgren one

3. Spiderman 1 & 2 - Raimi's got the touch really...both films definitely give science geeks hope

4. X-Men 1 & 2 - Singer's not perfect, but he really f-ing understands the allegories used in the Marvel verse by these characters.

5. V for Vendetta - Not your average superhero film, cuz there's not really a "hero" till the very end of the film, and then you got hundreds of them

BEB

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Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:35 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Batman Begins blew all other Batman movies out of the water. Few few fans of the comics had some minor issues with X-men, but I thought overall they were very good. Ditto on Spiderman. But Batman Returns was the *clears throat for comic-book guy impression* best super hero movie ever. Likewise Bale was the best Batman ever and Caine was the best Alfred ever and...
Oh, you get the point.

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Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:47 PM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
And you also already chose all the accurate and best superhero movies. That list represents all the current SH movies that were done right.

Wow, I've never had someone completely agree with me before. Cheers.

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Monday, July 24, 2006 2:57 AM

SIXSHOOTER

I thought i was the only person on the face of the earth who even remotly liked the Punisher movie.
It was like a throwback to good 80's action.
That bit with the knife was frikin' awesome.
Course there was a lot to dislike about it and nearly everything that was any good in it was lifted from Ennis's current run.

And howzabout ... dun dun dun dun dun... FLASH!
Ah-Aaahhhh!!!
Saviour of the Universe!

EDIT: OH! and The Rocketeer!
The comic was way better, but the movie was close.

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Monday, July 24, 2006 3:08 AM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER

Forgot about the Rocketeer, good one.

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Monday, July 24, 2006 4:40 AM

RIVER6213

Let's all face it. It would be real difficult to bring certain superheroes to the screen from comic book form. Example: Thor. Try bringing him and his story to the screen. They would have to make so many changes to make it work that in the end, it wouldn’t even begin to resemble the comic character that it started out as.

The Flash. I heard that they made a Flash movie, but I didn’t even have to see it to know that it would flop, and the same with Captain America. Pulling off a good movie with this character would be difficult, and then forgettable.

Fantastic Four. They did a good job with the THING, Sue Storms, and Dr. Doom characters, but the rest of the characters were fillers and the story was weak. Yes, I know they were basing the story from the original story of FF back in 1962 with a few changes added, but in it didn't work very well.

Blade. Blade was a superhero character that was brought from the comic book world and done right in the movies. I would have to say that I liked the movie version better than the comic version of the character.

I'm a little worried, and in this Wonder Woman comes to mind. No one has ever been able to capture the essence of Wonder Woman. Not even the people who invented her back in the 40s. I like the idea of Wonder Woman, but it is a movie that would be hard to do, but the plus side is that no ones been able to totally capture who she really is as a person and a heroine, so there are a lot of empty holes to fill in, and it's that filling in part that would make or break any WW film made.

I noticed that Joss seems to like female characters. Matter of fact it is clear that Joss is invested in female hero-types, so if anyone could manage to make Wonder Woman work, I think Joss's our man....Go Joss!

River

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Monday, July 24, 2006 5:48 AM

CYBERSNARK

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
The Flash. I heard that they made a Flash movie, but I didn’t even have to see it to know that it would flop,

I don't recall a movie, but there was a Flash TV series in the 90s, with John Wesley Shipp as the speedster. Quite good, even if it was the Barry Allen version (I'm more a Wally West fan).

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Monday, July 24, 2006 2:33 PM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER

Man, not only did I forget the Rocketeer, but I forgot The Shadow, and Dick Tracy for that matter. Both were campy as hell, but considering the source material, that's exactly how they should have been.

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Monday, July 24, 2006 3:04 PM

ROLAND19

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
The Flash. I heard that they made a Flash movie, but I didn’t even have to see it to know that it would flop,
I don't recall a movie, but there was a Flash TV series in the 90s, with John Wesley Shipp as the speedster. Quite good, even if it was the Barry Allen version.

Loved that show as a kid. Recently got the DVD, and although it's overall not as good as I remember, the use of technology was pretty good.

There's a new movie currently in development, written and likely to be directed by David Goyer (the guy behing Blade and Batman Begins). Ryan Reynolds is likely going to play Wally West. Goyer has said that both Wally and Barry will be in it.

Oh, and Batman Begins is the best superhero movie ever.

2. Spiderman 2
3. X2
4. Batman - Mask of the Phantasm

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Monday, July 24, 2006 3:16 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by RiveR6213:

Fantastic Four. They did a good job with the THING, Sue Storms, and Dr. Doom characters, but the rest of the characters were fillers and the story was weak. Yes, I know they were basing the story from the original story of FF back in 1962 with a few changes added, but in it didn't work very well.

Well, I LIKED FF!
...but I gotta agree it could have been better.
BUT I STILL LIKED IT!

Love your Supergirl gif Chrisisall

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Monday, July 24, 2006 3:57 PM

ADAMWANKENOBI

Spiderman 2, IMHO, is the best comic book movie ever made.

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Monday, July 24, 2006 4:15 PM

CYBERSNARK

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Originally posted by Roland19:
There's a new movie currently in development, written and likely to be directed by David Goyer (the guy behing Blade and Batman Begins). Ryan Reynolds is likely going to play Wally West. Goyer has said that both Wally and Barry will be in it.

Ah, okay. Hadn't heard (distracted by the TF movie, the potentially-upcoming potentially-Star Trek movie, and Wonder Woman).

Ryan Reynolds. . . Good choice. Not my pic (Robert Duncan McNeill --Voyager's Tom Paris), but still okay.

Too bad there'll likely be no Impulse.

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Monday, July 24, 2006 7:07 PM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER

Not really looking foward to the Wonder Woman movie. There is a time and place for certain characters, and I think her boat sailed in the 70s. As far as a Flash, Thor, or Captain America movie (all announced with Goyer at the helm), I'm not sure they are viable heroes now. It'd be like making a Silver Surfer or Nick Fury flick.

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Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:51 AM

CRUITHNE3753

(Thinks for a moment...) Serenity?

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Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:02 AM

ONEMANSHORT

I agree with Spiderman 2 being the best superhero movie ever. Best character development ever, best special effects, best acting, just incredibly incredible overall

Speaking of incredible...The Incredibles was quite the amazing superhero movie, even it was just a cartoon. It had a great plot, hi-larious humor, and wonderful animation. Also, I don't know if this is a superhero movie, but at least it is comic book related, I thought Sin City was one of the best adaptations of a comic book that I've seen. The characters are hero-esque. That's my 2 cents anyway.

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Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:41 AM

RIVER6213

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Originally posted by babywiththepower:
Not really looking foward to the Wonder Woman movie. There is a time and place for certain characters, and I think her boat sailed in the 70s.

I seriously disagree with this. I compare the Wonder Woman TV show of the 70s to The Batman show of the 60s. Both were campy, but look what happened to Batman! 5 or 6 movies with the last being the best. One can now see Batman as a serious hero. This could happen for Wonder Woman, and like I said in an earlier post. Unlike Batman, Wonder Woman’s character was left with a million holes right from her creation. Like all the earlier female superheroes, Wonder woman was hung up on a man. It seemed that was the central theme to all earlier women super heroes. The woman would have all of this strength and speed, but their weakness was always a man. For Supergirl it was Superman showing her what to do. Wonder Woman had Steve to be hung up on, and for Batgirl it was Batman. It appears that in the past, guys wouldn’t take a female super heroine seriously unless they were gushing over a guy.

Look how Sue Storm was treated in the earlier Fantastic Four comics! She was a weak, whiner always concerned with the safety of the Guys of the FF team. She was also portrayed as a house-wife minded home body, which enraged me to no end as a child. Also, it seems that female super heroes always had to have huge breasts and fight crime in high heels, another thing that annoyed me to no end and it always reinforced certain stereotypes about women in the minds of men and boys.

I read a comic a few years ago that dealt with the fact that Superman and Wonder Woman had been in some sort of sexual relationship that produced a female daughter who grew up to have the strength and powers of both parents. This new female super hero also was a lesbian who did not gush over any men…she was a different bird in the world of super heroes, but of course since her character was written by a guy, she had to be a total extreme individual on the other end of the spectrum who believed that she being an Amazon, was more superior than everyone else, and you can guess where that lead…

Wonder Woman could be a good movie if there’s a good story and character development behind it and certain seriousness is given to it like what was done with the 1st Superman movie, or the 2001s Spiderman movie. It could also be a good movie if she isn’t forced into some role where men have control over her powers. Wonder Woman is not a traditional, brainwashed woman of our modern day society, she is an Amazon, and it’s up to the writers to point out exactly what being an Amazon means in the modern day world in which she lives. She comes from an Island which is populated only by women. What kind of person would come out of that sort of society?

Joss’s movie should be the movie that finally defines who Wonder Woman is. The fact that Joss is good with female heroine creations makes him the perfect person to bring the wonder to the character Wonder Woman on the big screen.

River

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Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:03 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:

Joss’s movie should be the movie that finally defines who Wonder Woman is.

I am confident of this.

Can't wait Chrisisall

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Tuesday, August 1, 2006 3:16 PM

SPACECOYOTE

I was really impressed with Constantine. I really digged the "slacker" hero who only cared when it was worth caring.

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A dog that @#$%s fast doesn't @#$% long

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Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:29 PM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER

Forgot about Constantine. That was a good one too. Another one I like because Constantine was an ordinary man put into an extraordinary situation.

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Wednesday, August 9, 2006 1:37 AM

JAMAICANBATMAN

i wouldnt call spiderman accurate per say but you were right to put it in the list of the best.
But the most accurate comic book film is probably sin city. Shame it was crap.

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Wednesday, August 9, 2006 1:40 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

IT WAS NOT CRAP!!!!

I loved Sin City! But it was hardly a "super-hero" movie now was it? They were heroes in their way, I suppose, but I wouldn't really call it a "super-hero movie" per se.

All things, oh priests, are on fire - Gautama Siddharta

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Wednesday, August 9, 2006 1:41 AM

JAMAICANBATMAN

thats why i called it a comic book movie not a super hero film, but i just didnt like it, (but the clive owen story was all right i suppose.)

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Wednesday, August 9, 2006 1:54 AM

SPACEANJL

Constantine!?!

No frickin' way! That was just 'Angel' again! As a Hellblazer fan from way back, I cannot cope with the whole Americanization of the Northern Magus.

So...that'll be a 'no'.

There was talk of doing 'Preacher' as a film. Do we like? We do. But only if they cast it right. Or 'Watchmen'. But I would love to see someone try and get their head round 'Sandman'. I suspect that has to stay in the realm of graphics, though.

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Wednesday, August 9, 2006 1:55 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

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And howzabout ... dun dun dun dun dun... FLASH!
Ah-Aaahhhh!!!
Saviour of the Universe!

Do you mean the Flash Gordon movie they made back in the 80's? That gloriously awful one with the campy outfits and the soundtrack by Queen? Because loving that movie to bits is my guilty secret.

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Wednesday, August 9, 2006 3:19 PM

CRUITHNE3753

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Do you mean the Flash Gordon movie they made back in the 80's? That gloriously awful one with the campy outfits and the soundtrack by Queen? Because loving that movie to bits is my guilty secret.

"Flash, I love you, but we only have 14 hours to save the Earth!!!" Great line, that.

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Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:03 PM

TRAVELER

I liked "Indestructible". Broke away from the usual story line. The reluctant hero. How he had to be pushed into his role as superhero. And the ending showing just how twisted evil can be.

Traveler

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