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Monday, August 21, 2006 5:36 PM

From Sci-Fi Wire:

SCI FI Channel confirmed that it will not renew its record-breaking original series Stargate SG-1 for another season, but will pick up its spinoff series Stargate Atlantis for a fourth year.

See article here:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=37607

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Monday, August 21, 2006 7:30 PM

DINALT

Can't say I'm surprised at the decision - but it's a shame nonetheless. I haven't watched it for a while now, but for SG fans it'll be a sad day.
I sorta went off the show when O'Neil left, but anyone who's stuck with it must be gutted.

Notice on the official SG-1 boards, that they're already gearing up for a campaign - so be interesting to see how they do.

But it's gonna leave the Sci-Fi channel weakened, as I can't see that they've got another series to match it in terms of fanbase.

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Monday, August 21, 2006 7:43 PM

MOOSE

Quote:
Originally posted by Dinalt:

But it's gonna leave the Sci-Fi channel weakened, as I can't see that they've got another series to match it in terms of fanbase.

Yeah, if they can only find a show to replace it that already has a built-in fanbase....

Maybe it's time to start writing to SciFi again...

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Monday, August 21, 2006 7:50 PM

FOLLOWMAL

Quote:
Originally posted by Moose:

Quote:
Originally posted by Dinalt:
But it's gonna leave the Sci-Fi channel weakened, as I can't see that they've got another series to match it in terms of fanbase.

Yeah, if they can only find a show to replace it that already has a built-in fanbase....

Maybe it's time to start writing to SciFi again...

My daughter and her fiance are very big SG-1 fans and that's what they said when I spoke to them on the phone. They both thought.. wait.. what if they are making way for something else? 'Course that's conjecture, but.....

Wait a couple of weeks..being mindful of other folks' loss... then write. I'm going to.

I would imagine that there are a lot of SG-1 fans feeling a lot of pain. We should be respectful of them.

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Monday, August 21, 2006 8:16 PM

SILENCE

After that "Firefly reference" (for those of you that didn't see it:

) can't say I feel sorry for it.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:24 AM

LEXIBLOCK

Too touchy.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:44 AM

JOSSISAGOD

So as not to inccur Pheonix's wrath I'll post here. It will be a sad day when Sci-Fi airs the last episode, I've enjoyed the show a great deal. Of course, I think I missed a couple of years when it moved to Sci-Fi and I didn't have cable. In other news, did anyone notice that Micheal Shanks was listed as starring in Stargate SG-1 The Movie? I don't recall him showing up at all.

Edit: At least they're waiting until AFTER Morena guest stars.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:57 AM

ESTHER

Quote:
Wait a couple of weeks..being mindful of other folks' loss... then write. I'm going to.

Would you be so kind to start a thread then, including addresses to write to etc?

And why wait? SciFi channel will already be in the planning stage, so we shouldn't be too late (and SG-1-fans do not receive our mails / letters anyhow, so they cannot be offended.)

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 3:13 AM

SAB39

Quote:
Originally posted by silence:
After that "Firefly reference" (for those of you that didn't see it:
) can't say I feel sorry for it.

Aww hell I'm a Browncoat to the core and I thought that was hysterical!

Stuart.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 3:23 AM

KENOBIUS

Quote:
Originally posted by silence:
After that "Firefly reference" (for those of you that didn't see it:
) can't say I feel sorry for it.

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I really thought that was a funny and very real reference, don't see how it was negative or mean.

As a long time SG-1 fan, I can honestly say in the back of my mind I saw this coming. The show just hasn't felt like SG-1 like it did in the past. Everything feels too rushed and short on character growth and depth they established early on.

I'm sad to see it not return, but on the other hand, I am glad it won't go on and continue to get worse and worse. Give it a little grace and dignity. Go out in style, you know?

All is not lost, as Stargate Atlantis is really picking up steam and I am really enjoying that show as well. And like Joss, the SG-1 guys aren't finished yet. Expect SG-1 to pop up somewhere again someplace else.

Which is probably for the better, as SciFi has been acting like Fox lately. Pulling a huge anchor like BSG from the Friday line up, promoting nothing but their sub-par movies, and bringing in ECW Wrestling. It had better ratings than SG-1. SciFi doesn't seem to care much about SG-1 anymore. Looks like Ben and Claudia brought a little Farscape curse with them,

If ending SG-1 could tell a little more Firefly story, I'm all for it. While SG-1 brought me back to television, Firefly stole my heart and wouldn't give me the closure of 10 seasons.

Stargate SG-1 had a fantastic run, record breaking even, and I'm sad to see it go, but hopeful for the future. Firefly came back with love and support from the fans, I'm sure we'll get to step through the gate sometime again.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 3:26 AM

JUBALISEARLY

Yeah I thought that was a Firefly crack, although poorly done. The truth is SG-1 is a candle that simply burned itself out.

While some think the same would have happened to firefly, as a browncoat I think Firefly could have lasted at least 7 seasons with the level of story telling intact as long as joss was at the wheel.

It is wishful thinking to believe that Sci-fi just might give Joss a call, and give Firefly a second chance because of the ongoing (saleability?) profitability of the series.

I can't help just hoping against hope that this will happen. Of course it means joss would have to juggle wonderwoman and firefly, but he's juggled two things at once before. Lets all write and keep our fingers crossed.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:07 AM

SIMONWHO

Heck, Joss created and produced Firefly with two other prime time series on the go.

I think the quip about DVD sales was a nod of the head, not an insult, to its Sci-Fi stablemate. The rumours are that we haven't seen the end of the SG-1 team yet - big screen movie anyone?

And what is it with Morena? She joins a show and boom, it gets cancelled. Just proves you're never too pretty to die... er, or have your show die under you.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:14 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Well, as much as I hate to see SG1 cancelled, I think many of us SG fans knew we were on borrowed time. The show is in it's 10th season which is all but unheard of in the television industry.

With Richard Dean Anderson leaving it just didn't feel the same. Ben Browder was a good fit for the show, as was Claudia Black, but it just didn't have that spark the old SG1 did in earlier seasons.

Still, it has had a good run. Glad I get to meet Christopher Judge at Dragon Con this year.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:33 AM

EVERYWORLDSPINNIN

Quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
Yeah, if they can only find a show to replace it that already has a built-in fanbase....

Maybe it's time to start writing to SciFi again...

As much as I'd like to see Firefly come back, I think Sci-Fi is making some financial room for Caprica (the Battlestar spinoff). They couldn't afford to produce another full blown series on top of what they already have. I have my fingers crossed for Firefly though. That would just be the best news ever.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:40 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Quote:
Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:

As much as I'd like to see Firefly come back, I think Sci-Fi is making some financial room for Caprica (the Battlestar spinoff). They couldn't afford to produce another full blown series on top of what they already have. I have my fingers crossed for Firefly though. That would just be the best news ever.

"Caprica"??? I have not heard they were considering a BSG spinoff. Is that a done deal? Any links to news on it?

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:40 AM

MAVOURNEEN

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Well, as much as I hate to see SG1 cancelled, I think many of us SG fans knew we were on borrowed time.

I agree. I love SG-1, but felt heading into the 10th season I may be watching them move towards the end.

215 episodes ain't shabby.
MASH - 251 episodes
Cheers - 275
Simpsons - 385 (Yeah, don't give me guff, I know its animated.)

For a science fiction show, 215 episodes is amazing.
On a personal note, I miss Richard Dean Anderson.
And on a financial note, after buying season 9 on dvd, I'll only have to shell out for one more season.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:45 AM

CYBERSNARK

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
The rumours are that we haven't seen the end of the SG-1 team yet - big screen movie anyone?

Hells yeah. SG-1 is too much of a cash cow to let it die quietly. A new comic series just started, there's talks of a live-action movie, finding another network --all the measures that we've taken/are taking with Firefly, just with the benefit of 215 episodes of inertia behind 'em.

The Stargate Program isn't finished, not by a long shot. Even if we have to beam the programs into space in the hopes that aliens will invade and demand more (hey, the Asgard have saved our butts before. . .).

Frankly, I see no cause for any bad feelings between Gaters and Browncoats. Different animals, and I see no reason why we can't want both to be successful. Personally, I'll be jumping on the "Save SG-1" bandwagon just as I did the Immediate Assistance bandwagon.

. . . And the Save Farscape bandwagon, and we all saw how effective that was. Maybe I'm the one jinxing this.

What is it with us and battles we've already lost? Can't we win just once?

Also, I sincerely hope this'll compell Space to get off their pi-gu and BRING US SEASON 2 OF ATLANTIS!!!

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:47 AM

STEGASAURUS

I have to say, finding out about this at the beginning of my day has allowed the clouds to form overhead =( Even though I work at a computer store, there aren't enough SciFi fans to share my angst with.

Unfortunately, this means that they will either rush a resolution to the Ori threat, or leave a whopping cliffhanger with the hopes and dreams of a motion picture to provide a resolution.

This does, however, answer a nagging question I had ever since the 200th episode where at the end they were talking about renewed talks about the "Wormhole Extreme" movie. At the very least they are probably in talks. Kudos to the writers and producers for giving that much away to their fans.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:09 AM

EVERYWORLDSPINNIN

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:

"Caprica"??? I have not heard they were considering a BSG spinoff. Is that a done deal? Any links to news on it?

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?id=35773

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:32 AM

KRISPEE

sad to hear SG-1 is going, i must admit i loved o`neil and it wasn`t quite the same without him....still there is atlantis and i do enjoy that series.....

krispee

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:46 AM

DINALT

Quote:
Originally posted by FollowMal:
Quote:
Originally posted by Moose:

Quote:
Originally posted by Dinalt:
But it's gonna leave the Sci-Fi channel weakened, as I can't see that they've got another series to match it in terms of fanbase.

Yeah, if they can only find a show to replace it that already has a built-in fanbase....

Maybe it's time to start writing to SciFi again...

My daughter and her fiance are very big SG-1 fans and that's what they said when I spoke to them on the phone. They both thought.. wait.. what if they are making way for something else? 'Course that's conjecture, but.....

Wait a couple of weeks..being mindful of other folks' loss... then write. I'm going to.

I would imagine that there are a lot of SG-1 fans feeling a lot of pain. We should be respectful of them.

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=19&t=22697]

I agree, which is why I didn't out and out say that FF should be considered as a replacement. It does need a few weeks for Gaters to adjust to their loss - or years, lol. Imagine how we feel about FF being canned, and those feelings are still strong years down the line.

In all honesty, all us Sci-Fi fans should be pulling together, whether we're Gaters, Browncoats, Trekkies whatever.
If we all pooled our resources, imagine what a SF fanbase that would be!

Problem is, whether you loved SG-1 or not, being pulled sucks, as it's another Sci-Fi series off the air (apart from the obvious re-runs).

And with the exception of BSG, what other mainstream SF is still on air ? Okay, there's still SG-Atlantis, but other than that it's essentially re-runs of older series.

So whether you're a fan of SG or not (and I'm not incidentally), it's a sad day for the whole SF community.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:18 AM

SICKDUDE

Quote:
Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
As much as I'd like to see Firefly come back, I think Sci-Fi is making some financial room for Caprica (the Battlestar spinoff). They couldn't afford to produce another full blown series on top of what they already have. I have my fingers crossed for Firefly though. That would just be the best news ever.

Good comments, everyone!

I'm coming at this from the side. Not so much cancelling it, but finally unable to afford it and letting it go. IMHO, the production company and cast of SG-1 were ready to see it end a few years ago, namely at the end of season eight ("Threads"). I feel it's SciFi that kept it going this long. Sort of CPR on a hundred year old. Although, there is a fairly solid rumor that the producers wanted to break the X-Files record of longest running American scifi series (nine years). Supposedly, they will do a movie, and use that movie to launch a third Stargate series!

The way I see it, SciFi has two cashcows keeping it afloat. The Stargate and BSG franchises. They are very reluctant to let either of these go, and in fact have pushed to expand both franchises (first Atlantis, then Caprica, and soon a third Stargate show). Shows typically increase in cost with each additional year they are on the air, mostly due to actor compensation. As has been stated, ten years is a long time, and the production costs must be enormous!

I do agree that Firefly would be a nearly guaranteed win for them, and I think they know it. As Everyworldspinnin said, they are probably trying to find the capital.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:23 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Quote:
Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:

"Caprica"??? I have not heard they were considering a BSG spinoff. Is that a done deal? Any links to news on it?

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?id=35773

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Thanks for the link.

Sounds interesting. Might give the first few episodes a whirl to see how they shape up.

Kind of odd though seeing what happens in the past when we already know what the future holds.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:29 AM

RELFEXIVE

...and on the subject of Farscape, there are rumours of an upcoming Henson production... a new Farscape series?

Frell me dead.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:43 PM

WHITEFALL

Wow, i admit i'm a bit stunned, just cause i've kinda taken SG1 for granted for so long. Of course, i havent seen season 9 or 10 (obviously), but still...

I think Caprica looks like enterprise, and if I may, I think enterprise was awful. Horrible. Godawfulhorrible. But that's another story, nvm. I hope Caprica is good tho, even tho i cant watch (dont have sci-fi).

I dunno, without SG1, I doubt atlantis will have as much momentum, i always viewed it like a voyager rather than a TNG, if you get the reference. (voyager was kind of an add on, TNG was a full on continuation of the original)

As for firefly, i dunno. As for Joss, if Sci-fi approaches him, he might work something out with Minear, but I doubt that'll happen at all, unfortunately.

Wow... so that's it, now BSG sorta stands alone (and i've never seen it. should i check out the first disc or something?).

Still, i'm gonna miss SG1.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 11:25 PM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

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Originally posted by krispee:
sad to hear SG-1 is going, i must admit i loved o`neil and it wasn`t quite the same without him....still there is atlantis and i do enjoy that series.....

krispee

and now.....

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 5:17 AM

CYBERSNARK

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there's another Col. O'Neil with just 1 L

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 5:49 AM

FOLLOWMAL

Quote:
Originally posted by Whitefall:
Wow, i admit i'm a bit stunned, just cause i've kinda taken SG1 for granted for so long.

Me too, once I started watching it, I liked it enough to stay and I've enjoyed it. I hate to see it go.

Quote:
Wow... so that's it, now BSG sorta stands alone (and i've never seen it. should i check out the first disc or something?).

I think you should. I ordered it the same time as Firefly and I haven't watched it yet ( well, obviously, cuz I had to watch and rewatch Firefly over and over!) but I've caught enough on tv to know that I didn't make a mistake ordering it.
BSG is good, it's no Firefly, but it's good.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:59 AM

SIMONB

Quote:
Dinalt wrote:
Monday, August 21, 2006 19:30
Can't say I'm surprised at the decision - but it's a shame nonetheless. I haven't watched it for a while now, but for SG fans it'll be a sad day.
I sorta went off the show when O'Neil left, but anyone who's stuck with it must be gutted.

Yes, I am. As a huge SG-1 fan I now find myself having to fight for two of my beloved shows that have been cancelled. Though, I have to say, after 10 fantastic seasons Stargate has been far luckier than Firefly (which should have been around for 20 seasons IMHO!).

Still, won't make me fight any less - for either of them!

Thanks also to all you non-Stargate fans who have been so respectful to our (the SG-1 fans) feelings at this time. Have to say though, I think the idea of petitioning to bring Firefly back to fill the gap is a great one! I've already written to Sci-Fi several times in the past to that end, but now this might be the perfect time to try again - whilst writing to other networks about SG-1 too.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:10 AM

SIMONB

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
I think the quip about DVD sales was a nod of the head, not an insult, to its Sci-Fi stablemate.

I agree - there was an interview with the makers of SG-1 who wanted the episode to also be a tip of the hat to Firefly, which judging from their comments they held in high regard. I believe it's to be taken as a humorous remark, nothing more, and I don't seen anything mean or offensive in it.

(sorry for these posts in such short succession - been away for about 3 months and have some major making up to do!) Plus this is a subject close to my heart right now (sniff)

Thank god for Atlantis!

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:13 AM

FOLLOWMAL

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonB:

Still, won't make me fight any less - for either of them!

Good for you Simon!

I just recently joined the GateWorld forum over there and read that there has been some talk of a move to movies.

I've not been a fan of StarGate SG-1 for long, slightly longer than Firefly. But I hate to see it end. I like it very much.

Waiting for SG-1 to come on is what got me into Firefly.. they were showing a marathon before the start of the new season in 2005.

Have you heard about there being a move to movies too?

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:28 AM

SIMONB

Hi FollowMal,

No - I hadn't! Right, gonna nip to the forums right away! (lol) but I think movies is a logical step and would in fact be great to do - they could then end the Ori story in spectacular fashion (and maybe - haven't seen season 10 yet so don't shout at me if I'm ignorant of events here) get Morena back onto the big screen where she belongs.

I do agree with comments raised above that it doesn't matter whether you're a Gater, Browncoat or Trekkie/er (hell, I'm all 3) or whatever you are - this is a loss for the Sci-Fi world in general, and we all know the pain of losing a loved show, even after 15 episodes or 10 years.

Right, I've already said waaaaay too much here, so I'll shut the hell up and stop hogging this gorram thread...(going back to lurking....)

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:29 AM

EVILDINOSAUR

yea, that's kinda sucky, seems like horrid timing just as they have this huge celebration over their 200th episode they go and find out this is it.

It has had a good run though, I just hope they wrap it up and don't leave it hanging cuz that would suck. Of course that means having only 15 episodes to defeat the Ori, the most powerful enemy they've yet faced, but still, I hope they can pull off a nice ending.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:42 AM

MALSGIRL

Well for my part I'm very sad to see it go. Yes it isn't the same after RDA's departure but how could it not be different? They had thought about ending SG1 with RDA leaving and starting it new as Stargate Command but they decided it was better to keep the name and not go through a rebranding.

I basically grew up watching SG1, and I'm not ready to see it go. I know 10 seasons is a long time and I'm happy for that amount of time. But I'm not going to be happy about seeing it go.

There is already a campaign to save it, if anyone is interested:
http://www.savestargatesg1.com/

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