Most offensive scene in an SF or fantasy film... by chrisisall

OTHER SCIENCE FICTION SERIES

Most offensive scene in an SF or fantasy film...

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 17:34
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 19460
PAGE 2 of 2

Saturday, September 9, 2006 12:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
My most offended moment came during the rape/beating scene in A Clockwork Orange. Not to say it wasn't a good movie, I just found that scene exceptionally disturbing, I suppose.

THE rape/beating seen? You obviously haven't seen the full version. There are four or five of them. Overall, I loved A Clockwork Orange. I thought it was a great social commentary and character piece, but I have to agree with you crisisall. Those scenes are pretty disturbing.

You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, September 9, 2006 2:07 PM

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

Quote:
Clash of the Titans was one of the most awesomest movies! The acting was so awful. The cinematography was awful. The continuity was awful. I loved it. I own it. I don’t know if anyone else on earth does this or not, but I tend to remember certain phrases from movies that become integrated in my everyday speech. Several of them are from this movie. The world just wouldn’t be the same without Clash of Titans.

hear hear, it's a total classic, and was an integral part of my childhood.

I tend not to be offended by nastiness in films, being disturbed is a different thing and I like a film that upsets me (even if it's not one I'll want to watch again and again)

so for the insulting my intelligence/boredom threshold, there was a james bond film, not sure which one but from about 5 years ago, that I got dragged to the cinema to see and would have walked out of if I'd been on my own. dreadful piece of crap

--------------------------------------
"I'm an artist, with an e and a beret."

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, September 9, 2006 2:32 PM

STEGASAURUS

I would have to say my claim to this thread would be the sex scene in BloodRayne.

What a way to just throw a completely needless scene into a movie. There was no reason for it to be where it was. There was no build-up between the characters, and afterwards, there was no recognition of what happened between them.

This is of course beside the fact that the movie itself was horrible. Unfortunately, when the DVD came out I had forgotten just how horrible it was when I saw it at the theater, so I bought it. It's the one and only time that I can honestly admit that I must have blacked out and mean it. I really forgot...and then I had to waste the $$ buying it.

Needless to say, my wife smacked me when I got home, cause she didn't forget... LoL

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:19 AM

KAYNA

I love my captain

Ooo. I never watched Blood Rayne. They're good games and all but nothing about the trailers mde me want to see it. I'm glad now that I didn't.

And speaking of sex scenes, has anyone here watched Team America: World Police? Puppety sex anyone? Puppet sex that involves craping on each other...guhh *shudder*

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:55 AM

EMPXENU

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
The truth is that Armageddon was a comic book story without the comic book.

If you mean a comic book with shitty dialogue, manufactured melodrama, vomit-inducing sentimentality, twenty frames a page and a fucking orange filter, then sure.

No, contrary to popular belief, "comic book" isn't synonymous with "lobotomized".

----
"As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light of meaning in the darkness of mere being" - Carl Jung

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, September 10, 2006 12:39 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Quote:
Originally posted by EmpXenu:
No, contrary to popular belief, "comic book" isn't synonymous with "lobotomized".

If “lobotomized” means melodrama, sentimentality and shitty dialogue, then I’m afraid it does. Some things are just meant to be fun, not to be taken seriously.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, September 11, 2006 11:23 AM

HEWHOKICKSALOT

It takes all kinds to make the world go ‘round. Unfortunately, some are pedaling in the wrong direction...

Two words:

STARSHIP TROOPERS

I'm hard-pressed to pick a single scene. They were all entirely offensive, either to my intelligence or my sense of creativity.

Perhaps the most offensive (or nearly so) scene involves one officer's brain being sucked out of his head by a large bug's spiky tendril. Because, sure, sucking out someone's gray matter through a straw would of course instill you with all of their intelligence and insight...

"People actually pay money for this crap?"

Rob O.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, September 11, 2006 11:54 AM

FLAKBAIT

lol, I remember seeing Starship Troopers. My friends and I enjoyed watching it, somehow, then on the way home, it suddenly hit us and we were like...WTF?

It's been a while since I've seen, and I'm certainly not knocking the film or it's sequals, which I love, but, in the original Evil Dead, the scene of the tree raping the girl. That was pretty brutal.

Outside the genre, I easily give the award to Se7en, when they show the, ah, "tool" used to kill the prostitute. That still gives me the shudders.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, September 11, 2006 12:11 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER

I have to say the insinuated murder of children shoulda gotten that dman Episode III an R rating. Everyone in the theater got what happened to the "younglings". A five year old kid in front of me even asked his parents why the kids were killed. That is traumatizing for a small child. PG-13 or not. And I must agree with Stegasaurus on the whole Bloodrayne issue. Not to mention you gotta be a pretty bad filmmaker(cough cough Uwe Boll cough) If you can't even put Michael Madsen in a decent role.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, September 11, 2006 4:56 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

On Star Wars and their offensive scenes, I think the most offensive scene in any Star Wars movie, for me personally, was Luke getting his arm lobbed off by Darth Vader.

Now a note on this, I actually think the Empire Strikes Back was the best Star Wars film and one of the best films ever made, bar none, but as a young boy I was terribly disturbed by that scene.

I can imagine that there might have been something similar for young children watching Episode III, but if it had bee up to me, I think I would have advised them to remove the scene and make the show PG instead of PG-13. I’m opposed to the PG-13 rating.

The only other scene that disturbed me more then that was something I saw in Jaws. Of course Jaws was rated R and I had no business being at that movie. I can vague remember an image of a dead half eaten bloated guy pop out on the screen and I lost it. My mother had to carry me out of that theater screaming. To this very day I have an irrational fear of sharks. Of course, as far as irrational fears go, sharks are probably among the healthier of irrational fears.

Also I’m thinking that I really have to see BloodRayne. If it was as bad as it’s being portrayed.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, September 11, 2006 5:47 PM

BROWNCOATSANDINISTA

Aeon Flux. Not the Cartoons, which were good and thoughtprovoking in a cyberpunk kinda fashion, but the horrible, terrible, sucky, so bad that I wouldn't wish it upon Reavers so that they wouldn't have to suffer through it, film. No point, not kinky or disturbing, etc. etc. and so forth.

The Secret Window. The part where Johnny Depp is eating the corn that he planted the dead body((ies)) under. Ughhh shudder shudder.

"I'm not going to say Serenity is the greatest SciFi movie ever; oh wait yes I am." - Orson Scott Card

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, September 11, 2006 6:46 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?

One movie I remember going to as a kid that was so bad my mother had to come (on a bus) and bring me home. I was seeing it with my older brothers (who were only a few years older than me) and they and she warned me that it might be too scary for someone my age. But as all kids do I told them I'd be alright, I wanted to go, I didn't think it would be so bad. Boy was I wrong.

It was called Grizzley and it was about this huge grizzley that was running around the woods killing people. I was young, neive, stupid. I didn't think there would be blood, I thought it was about a sweet bear.

I was only a little rattled during the movie, till it came to a point where a small boy only a little younger than me was hugged(crushed) by the grizzley and his head either popped off or he was split in two (I know body parts were involved) I screamed and cried and my bro's had to call my mom to come get me (in between I told you so's) because I didn't want to stay. My bro's didn't want to leave because they were enjoying themselves and thought it wasn't fair they had to leave just because their stupid little sister couldn't handle a little violence (Asshats) but really at that point you want the one who'll comfort you most and I wanted my mommy.

So I waited (by myself) in the lobby, my bro's OCCASIONALLY coming to check on me waiting for my mom. And stupid me as if I didn't get enough I popped my head in occasionally to see what was happening. My mom showed up after a long wait (bus) and by then the movie was over and we all went home and from that moment if certain movies appealed to me I'm warned off them.

Till it came to Event Horizon. My bro warned me (one of the two I saw Grizzley with years ago) I should have listened.

*whew* Haven't thought of that in years.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, September 11, 2006 8:50 PM

ZENGRRL

Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?

No...run from Battlefield Earth. If you must watch it, I think it's playing on HBO through next month. That way you can save your money and be able to change the channel when it gets really bad.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, September 11, 2006 11:05 PM

SINGATE

Quote:
Originally posted by Zengrrl:
That way you can save your money and be able to change the channel when it gets really bad.

Having never seen this myself I feel compelled to ask. Are you suggesting there are some good parts?

On topic, many scenes in the extended version of Dune are quite nasty. The Baron spitting on Jessica, Raban crushing some helpless creature then sucking up the juice, and who can forget that wonderful heartplug scene.

I can't believe so many of you have such an aversion to Event Horizon. It's a simple, touching story about a man who loves his ship. I mean, as Browncoats, can we not all identify with that?

_________________________________________________

We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:15 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?

No.

To paraphrase Dawn: Some movie experiments are doomed before they begin.

Hey, I'm all up for bad movies (Ballistic: Ecks VS. Sever, anyone?), but Battlefield Earth is
in a class of it's own. Too much money behind it to be cheesy- not enough plot or character to be interesting. I think we've hit the bottom with this one- it's a movie I might want to view during the act of suicide.
Think like a really REALLY bad and more boring Waterworld, minus Costner, Hopper, the OK musical score and decent editing.

I think they were forceably showing it to prisoners at Abu Gharib....

And I saw Grizzly in the movies, it grossed me out, worse than Jaws! Arms flying all about- EEEEWWWWWWW!!!!!
But I was, like, 10.

Sensitive Chrisisall

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:49 AM

JUKO

Humm...

Ultraviolet definitely goes down as one of the worst movies ever (Wimmer should have been happy with Equilibrium... Ultraviolet was a cinematic travesty in every way)

Underworld: Evolution was also dreadful. Kate Beckinsale in leather was the only saving grace. And even then, I found my attention wandering.

Aeon Flux. Ugh. No amount of lithe women in form-fitting vinyl kicking ass is gonna save this piece of crud.

Dungeons and Dragons. This is probably why folks who play the game get laughed at. Jeremy Irons, what the hell were you thinking when you agreed to be in this?

^-- Four movies that made me actually regret paying five bucks to rent 'em.

Other notables for cinematic crud-fests:
All of the Star Wars prequels (unfortunate, since I like most of the actors)

Both Matrix sequels (unfortunate, since I'm a fan of Fishburne and Weaving... but apparently the Wachowskis had been licking toads when they made these stinkers)

Bram Stoker's Dracula. What's worse than Keanu Reeves trying to act? Keanu Reeves trying to do an English accent. Only saving graces to this one is Gary Oldman and Tom Waits' performances.

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Why in god's name did I actually buy this?

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Unless you're fired up by CGI to the point of sexual ecstasy, or if you're a devout Final Fantasy fanboi, AVOID THIS AT ALL COSTS. Plot, story, character motivation, character introduction... y'know, all the stuff that they tell you to do in any first-year writing class? You won't find any of it here. Seriously. You know how the main character's allies are introduced? They literally just drop in during the midst of a fight. Literally drop in. From this zeppelin/plane thingy (no, we don't know what it is or where it came from). That's it. We're expected to know who the hell they are. I am so happy I downloaded this one rather than renting it. I'm not so happy that I actually watched it all the way through.

Is it so much to ask that film-makers nowadays, I dunno, take a bloody film course or two?

The movie that had the most shocking moment, in my opinion, was the climax to Caché. Not a sci-fi/fantasy movie, but if you watch the movie and see this scene, I guarantee you'll jump.
Assuming you stay awake through the movie. It may have cleaned up at Cannes, but it should have been about twenty minutes shorter, and a lot of the symbolism either isn't clear, or isn't carried through.

Does Blue Sun sponser the Blue Man Group?

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:14 AM

HEWHOKICKSALOT

It takes all kinds to make the world go ‘round. Unfortunately, some are pedaling in the wrong direction...

I guess it was inevitable that this thread turn into a general movie critique, veering away from the original idea; Most offensive SCENE.

How about RoboCop 2? Offensive to our intelect in so many ways... When RoboCop 2 gets high on the Nuke... A cyborg with a drug habit? Sure, I believe it.

I was also deeply offended by the producers' use of a CHILD as one of the lead baddies. Every scene he was in offended me in a lot of ways. Shooting at cops, selling drugs, watching as RoboCop is dismantled. And when he's bleeding to death in a pile of money... Good taste, Hollywood.

"Do you think I'm stupid?"

"In every way possible."

Rob O.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:58 AM

FLAKBAIT

On the topic of offensive/traumatizing to children, I'll list Transformers: The Movie. I love my Transformers as much now as I did then, and seeing a whole bunch of your heroes massacred right in front of you, with no real consequence to the killers and no noble sacrifice, is pretty horrifying.

I've watched it with my 6-year-old nephew a few times, and it doesn't really have that affect anymore, since he wasn't watching the series as it aired. But it still makes me cringe a little.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:10 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

I find it ironic that Ultraviolet is the name of a really terrible movie when it's also the name of a brilliant TV show that aired in the UK.

The show was nothing to do with the movie. It was about vampires actually, but written very much as a cop show/crime drama. There were only about six episodes - UK TV series tend to be much shorter than the US as there are fewer writers - and it was never renewed or even repeated as far as I saw, but it was very well written and great to watch.

More animations available at http://desktophippie.googlepages.com

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:37 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

Quote:
Originally posted by patsrule:
If you genuinely think he was talking about Leonardo DaVinci (or a modern day version), you are deluding yourself. He was talking about Grammy winners, Academy Award Winners, Tony Award Winners, Emmy Award winners, etc. Hollywood is a self applauding entity and they were taking another chance to self applaud.

I honestly don't think the writers were bright enough to take the apportunity. I'm pretty sure they were just regurgitating what they'd learned in Humanities class about who the important people are: the intelligensia.

"Well, here I am."

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:09 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I thought Armageddon was a great film. It is widely criticized for its crazy inaccuracies and cheese, but it is no more inaccurate or cheesy then Superman or Wonder Woman. The truth is that Armageddon was a comic book story without the comic book. Noble heroes fighting for Truth, Justice and the American way!
We are in complete agreement here.
Chrisisall

Finn mac Cumhal and Chrisisall in complete agreement? Damn, I miss the Fascists.

By the way, not answering the thread, in the not too distant past did an Armageddon, Deep Impact, Core marathon. I'm a masochist, what can I say? If only I had The Day After Tomorrow...they are the same movie. Different takes, but that's Hollywood. Armageddon was the most satisfying. Bruce makes the Ultimate Sacrifice for Liv (sigh) and Afflack! Deep Impact the least. Why was it important for Tea Leoni to find Maximilian Schell just to die with him? Oh, yes to find out how he got out of Disney's the Black Hole. Oops! Too late. Time to be swallowed the Poiseidon Tsunami. The Core was just formula, Pablum, and occasionally fun.

C'mon people, I recognize you from the MST3K thread; insulting our intelligence is no reason to spit out a movie. It may be the very ingredient that entertains us. I see the zipper in his lizard suit, I see the wire holding up the spaceship.

Sure there's a lot of insulting schlock out there, but ain't we tough enough to take it? I think we are.

"Well, here I am."

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:19 AM

PURPLEBELLY

Stringer Bell with a Hackney accent - wot more could you ask for? Apparently, Joe Aherne didn't want to write a second series because he thought the idea had been written out - US Network execs could take note, although they didn't take up the US pilot, even with 'Dris.

Stringer Bell meets Commodore Norrington, there's a thought ...

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:37 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?

Okay, so do you like the very worst movies there are? Do you have a craving that can only be appeased by overwrought, self-important motion picture afterbirth? If you do, and if you have a hookah close at hand and ready to use, tune in, turn on, drop out. This is the movie for you. Where else can you watch 2 hours of John Travolta run around with hi-tech snot trails coming out of his nose? It raises "drek" to a whole new level: this is sub-drek.

"Well, here I am."

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:52 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

re Armagddeon

My wife turned me on to it. SHe's not a fan of Bruce Willis, disaster movies or sci- fi , really, but she pointed out that Harry Stamper is a Robert Heinlein hero-- a competent individual who makes a sacrifice for the greater good.

That theme makes the movie acceptable, in spite of scientific inaccuracy, gratuitous destruction, too many special effects and an over done plot

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:47 AM

KAYNA

I love my captain

Not on the actual topic of the thread, sorry, I just wanted to respond to a couple of folks here.

Quote:
Originally posted by Juko:
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Unless you're fired up by CGI to the point of sexual ecstasy, or if you're a devout Final Fantasy fanboi, AVOID THIS AT ALL COSTS. Plot, story, character motivation, character introduction... y'know, all the stuff that they tell you to do in any first-year writing class? You won't find any of it here. Seriously. You know how the main character's allies are introduced? They literally just drop in during the midst of a fight. Literally drop in. From this zeppelin/plane thingy (no, we don't know what it is or where it came from). That's it. We're expected to know who the hell they are. I am so happy I downloaded this one rather than renting it. I'm not so happy that I actually watched it all the way through.

I just had to respond to this. Advent Children was weak on that stuff but that's mostly because it's a sequel to the game (and I'm not a fangirl, I've only played two FF games, FFVII being one of them). I actually think of it as a continuation. All the characters and such were introduced in that. If you're familiar with the game it's pretty good. I don't think it's amazing but I enjoyed it. This was a movie made for a specific audience and those are always hit and miss with everyone outside of that target group.

Quote:
Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
C'mon people, I recognize you from the MST3K thread; insulting our intelligence is no reason to spit out a movie. It may be the very ingredient that entertains us. I see the zipper in his lizard suit, I see the wire holding up the spaceship.

Sure there's a lot of insulting schlock out there, but ain't we tough enough to take it? I think we are.

I agree with this whole heartedly. I love a good piece of crap movie. They can really make you laugh. I've had a couple marathons for things like this with a cousin whose B horror fanatic and a friend whose obsessed with MST3K.

Ever heard of Zombi 3? No, I didn't spell it wrong. It's originaly Italian I believe. The Zombi series goes through at least 5 and from what I can tell, non of them have anything to do with each other but I've only watched #3 all the way through. It takes place in China and there are ninja zombies at one point. And you can see the guy with the smoke machine ducking around a corner in one scene. Lots of laughs.

And Jack Frost. This movie has nothing to do with Michael Keaton. It's about a serial killer incarnate in a snow man. And the sequel takes place on a tropical island. Actually, These two seem to be bad on purpose. They really make fun of the whole thing, especially the second one.

Any of the Critters movies..Oh yeah! Caveman with Ringo Star! Not a recent movie but still funny in a sad kind of way. And it has a young Dennis Quaid dressed in furs and skins. Mmmmmmmm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:02 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Can't believe you included the Fulci flicks. Okay, Italian zombie flicks kinda suck. But Zombi 2 rocked ass.

We need a MST3K with Browncoat hosts for "mainstream" movies. Sure might make them a bit more interesting.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:26 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Oh I gotta touch in here.

Quote:
While I haven't seen the movie (it's yet to be released) and I don't know the genre, I did read that in Dakota Fanning's next movie she does partial nudity and is raped.

A 12 year old girl nude and raped on film? I suspect that's gonna' be pretty G.D. offensive...

FYI, for them that don't know - Dakota Fanning is the voice of Lilo, from Lilo and Stitch.

The working title of said monstrosity is "Hound Dog" and from the beginning it seemed naught more than 'fanservice' for pervos and freaks - considering the script ran heavy to those scenes and virtually nil on plot, currently funding has been suspended by the production company because of the furor, helped along in part by yours truly...

It completely shocks me that
A. There's a sufficient audience wanting to see Lilo molested, enough that this perv thinks he can make money on it.
B. That anyone would finance or invest in such a thing.
C. That any theatre would run it.

Anyhow, currently the original financer has caved, and hopefully no one else is warped enough to step forward and pay for this horror.

Just so ya know,

-Frem

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:27 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

I haven’t seen this movie and certainly not this scene, and odds are good that if it comes to the cinema I won’t go see it. It’s just not my cup o’tea.

I’m not sure what I think of this. I think there is a lot of overreacting to this scene. I’ve seen rape scenes of young girls on tv dramas before, and I don’t remember anyone getting hysterical over those. The subject matter is definitely weighty and probably offensive and disturbing, and this particularly scene is probably pushing the envelope, but I’m not quite ready to say the filming of the scene represents any more perversion then is usually widely accepted on tv and in Hollywood. I reserve the right to change my mind on that.

That being said, the only thing I’m uncomfortable with is the parents of Miss Fanning. I’m not going to judge them and say they aren’t good parents, but I can’t imagine that I would be comfortable putting my 12 year old daughter in a position in which she would have to act out a rape scene, as tastefully as it may be, much less appear nude on screen. Being as talented an actress as Dakota Fanning is can be very doubled edged. She might get an Oscar. Personally, I think Fanning is the most impressive young actresses in the movies today. Does Miss Fannings ability to act out a rape scene necessarily mean she has the maturity to understand it, and is any possible resulting neuroses worth any subsequent benefit? I don’t know, and I have to trust that her parents are able to make that determination. The number of young Actresses and Actors that end up in bad stead in later life as a consequence of their careers does make me a little bit uncomfortable with this.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:46 PM

KANEMAN

Quote:
Originally posted by HeWhoKicksAlot:
Two words:

STARSHIP TROOPERS

I'm hard-pressed to pick a single scene. They were all entirely offensive, either to my intelligence or my sense of creativity.

Perhaps the most offensive (or nearly so) scene involves one officer's brain being sucked out of his head by a large bug's spiky tendril. Because, sure, sucking out someone's gray matter through a straw would of course instill you with all of their intelligence and insight...

"People actually pay money for this crap?"

Rob O.

What?! Great movie. I will still stay with Ultraviolet. There is another movie I rented once that almost made me throw up.."something" the clown. It's about a clown that gets raped by hillbillies. Kind of Clock W. Orange meets Deliverance....Messed up stuff.

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:54 PM

KANEMAN

Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?

One movie I remember going to as a kid that was so bad my mother had to come (on a bus) and bring me home. I was seeing it with my older brothers (who were only a few years older than me) and they and she warned me that it might be too scary for someone my age. But as all kids do I told them I'd be alright, I wanted to go, I didn't think it would be so bad. Boy was I wrong.

It was called Grizzley and it was about this huge grizzley that was running around the woods killing people. I was young, neive, stupid. I didn't think there would be blood, I thought it was about a sweet bear.

I was only a little rattled during the movie, till it came to a point where a small boy only a little younger than me was hugged(crushed) by the grizzley and his head either popped off or he was split in two (I know body parts were involved) I screamed and cried and my bro's had to call my mom to come get me (in between I told you so's) because I didn't want to stay. My bro's didn't want to leave because they were enjoying themselves and thought it wasn't fair they had to leave just because their stupid little sister couldn't handle a little violence (Asshats) but really at that point you want the one who'll comfort you most and I wanted my mommy.

So I waited (by myself) in the lobby, my bro's OCCASIONALLY coming to check on me waiting for my mom. And stupid me as if I didn't get enough I popped my head in occasionally to see what was happening. My mom showed up after a long wait (bus) and by then the movie was over and we all went home and from that moment if certain movies appealed to me I'm warned off them.

Till it came to Event Horizon. My bro warned me (one of the two I saw Grizzley with years ago) I should have listened.

*whew* Haven't thought of that in years.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

LOL..My mother took me and my brothers to see Grizzly at the drive-in when we were kids. She thought it was a Disney movie. We are all sitting in the car eating popcorn....Bang! the bear rips the head off of a horse..My mother sits up quickly and says "Whoa time to go kids". I had nightmares for years.

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:52 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Scenes, not scene, Finn - peoples problem with it came of the fact stated above, there's basically a thread-thin plot that seems to only exist in order to justify said scenes... if there was a movie in it at all, folks might have been a little less offended, but the original script had less plot than your typical porn flick.

The elvis tie-in of itself was disturbing, but possibly (tho unlikely) coincidental.

If there was an actual movie behind it, that'd be a different thing, but as it stands, there is not.

-Frem

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:06 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

If that is indeed the case, then I would agree with you, but I have a hard time believing that. What A-list actress, much less their parents of a 12-year A-list actress, would sign up for a porno flick? I can see them stretching the ethical envelope if they really believe there might be an Oscar involved. The only way I can see this approaching anything like a porno-flick is if there is some politics behind it, but I haven’t heard anything like that. You might be right. I don’t know, but I’m reserving my judgment.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Friday, September 15, 2006 2:48 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Sorry for the delay, had log-in issues.

Apparently the producers found the required dosh to do an 'emergency wrap' - and if you are suspicious of what that source may be, you're not alone.

A good overview of the whole mess can be found here.
http://www.minorcon.org/dakota_fanning1.html

I find it very telling that the crew walked off the set, disgusted, and from what I have heard, some of them quit as well.

-Frem

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:20 PM

TRAVELER

I remember when Jody Foster played a child prostitute in "Taxi Driver". People got upset about that and she never actually commited any acts in this nature.

Now it seems fine to actually have a rape scene with a 12 year old.

Well lets hope it never gets released. I think the critics will have a field day with it if does.

Traveler

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, September 21, 2006 6:42 AM

SABRI3L

I don't think they were refering to musical artists...

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Friday, September 22, 2006 1:54 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Thanks for the heads up on Battlefield Earth. I kind of already knew from reviews and people talking about this movie and reading what it was about and seeing pictures (not to mention reading up on Hubbard and finding out just what a pathetically bad writer he really was) that it wouldn't be anything to waste my time or money on, and I have this feeling Travolta wishes he could wipe the minds of everyone on Earth and make them forget he ever made it (but since he follows the teachings of an alien in Scientology maybe he'll actually ba able to do it in the near future.

)

Someone had actually tried to kipdnap.... I mean convert me to Scientology, trying to convince me how messed up my life was and how she found hope and happiness through the works of Hubbard and how it could help me. Brought out "Tist's bible Dia-(it sounded like a cool word to use)-netics. And I'd seen the commercials long before and thought it might be something to look into, but when the hairs on the back of your neck stick out and your concious is screaming "Get the f*@% out, you know something isn't exactly kosher. Since then I've learned the truth of that cult, and I'm glad to have stayed away. Just.... felt like sharing.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:34 AM

CRUITHNE3753

[img]

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:08 AM

REGINAROADIE

About the MATRIX sequels, some speculate that the real story behind the disintegration of the MATRIX film was that Larry Wachowski was starting to become deeply involved with this professional dominatrix or something like that and he was starting to get more interested in her than the production of the two movies.

ROLLING STONE magazine, back in February, published this article on Larry Wachowski, half of the brain trust that created THE MATRIX franchise, and this bizzare behind the scenes story. Here's the link to it.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/9138137/the_mystery_of_larry_wa
chowski

So to answer your question, they probably wern't licking toads. One of them, at least, was on the job. The other was off crossdressing and being some domme's slave.

**************************************************
"I have no reason to believe you and every reason not to."
"Why's that?"
"You work in television."

STUDIO 60 ON THE SUNSET STRIP

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, September 25, 2006 1:25 PM

BROWNCOATJIM

I thought Event Horizon was just a hell of a good scary movie! I didn't find it overly offensive (certainly not in the new vein of modern horror movies).

WE'RE GONNA CRASH? I DON'T WANNA CRASH!

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, October 4, 2006 4:51 PM

RMMC

Quote:
Originally posted by Juko:

Bram Stoker's Dracula. What's worse than Keanu Reeves trying to act? Keanu Reeves trying to do an English accent. Only saving graces to this one is Gary Oldman and Tom Waits' performances.

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Why in god's name did I actually buy this?

Oh, how'd I forget those two pieces of gos se?

I like vampire flicks. Usually even bad, cheesey ones, but this...*shudder* Every time some filmmaker decides to redo Drac, they use some new...angle, hook, what have you. To give an example, the Frank Langella Dracula of the 70's went for seduction, others have played for the gothic approach, some for the strict horror. This piece of

went for beastiality and necrophilia. A movie is pretty bad when you start making 'Cold Ethel' jokes in the theater...and the folks around you laugh. (Yeah, my place in the special hell has been reserved for years.) That movie was just throughly revolting.

HHGttG. *sigh* I should have been warned by the fact that it suddenly was able to get pushed through...after Mr Adams died. I can't believe they kept setting up jokes and never telling the fricking punchlines to 'em. GAH! I went to see it with my mother (who had watched the original mini-series) and my step-father who'd never heard of it before. My mom and I were annoyed and my step-father spent the whole movie trying to figure out what was going on as nother ever got adequately explained for folks who were new to it all.

Now I do like some bad flicks. Anyone ever seen Psychomania? It's bad, the writing is wretched, the acting...painful, but on the whole I have a great time watching it. It probably helps that the first time I'd seen it was on a local Mistie-style program (The Ghoul) and every time I see it, my mind replayes the jokes and sound effects that got added in that original watching.

********
RMMC
"Those grenades?"
"Captain don't want 'em."
"Jayne, we're robbing the place, we're not occupying it."

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 8, 2006 4:48 AM

IMNOTHERE

Quote:

Could I add all of Ultraviolet.

Provided you mean the recent Hollywood vampire movie, not the British TV series (miniseries by US standards) from the late 90s, which also featured (but made a point of not naming) our haemoglobin quaffing friends and was really rather good. The "Code V"s were cleverly used as a device to explore topics such as AIDS, abortion, child abuse etc.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:31 AM

REGINAROADIE

I havn't posted in this thread since I couldn't really think of anything that stuck out in my mind as offensive. But having just seen the first few minutes of Episode 17 of season 2 of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, I now have a scene and a coupling that really pisses me off.

Lee Adama and Anastasia Duella.

My blood flashboiled at the image of them together in bed. Not onyl is just the idea of those two tpgether so wrong, but it's a huge spit in the face of her character, as well as the memory of Billy who died in the previous ep. Thr guy proposes to her after nearly two seasons of being together, she turns him down, he DIES saving her ass during a hostage situation, and what does she do to honor his memory. Turns around and shacks up with Adama, who he himself has a thing with Starbuck.

This coupling and the implications behind it pisses me off even more than Fred choosing Gunn over Wes.

**************************************************
"We have five million Cybermen. How many are you?"
"Four"
You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?"
"We would destroy the Cybermen with ONE Dakek. You are superior in only one respect."
"What is that?"
"You are better at dying."

Trash talk between a Cyberman and a Dalek. It doesn't get any better than that.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:50 PM

SERYN

Well, i'll need a while to pick out a scene but for an offensive thing in the movies - Cat Womans costume (the Halle Berry one)

a singular insult to anybody who has ever even held a needle. Some one really needed to be shot for that one.

I vaguely remember some one saying some thing along the lines of it being the 'sartorial equivalent of an alchopop fueled spree in Anne Summers by a chavvy hen party'

or what ever. It was god awful.

But then i gather the film wasn't much better.

The only scene i've never been able to watch, even now, is the melting nazi scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark, when they open the ark?

It freaked me out as a kid, I was inconsolable for weeks, worse than when they made me watch Watership Down.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 23, 2006 8:02 PM

TRAVELER

I felt bad for Bela Lugosi when I saw "Plan Nine from Outerspace". It was such a trashy film and Bela died before it ever got started. He would never have been apart of such terrible piece of "Go Se" if he was still alive. It is hard to believe his family allowed them to use his name in association with this awful movie. I know he made mostly B monster movies, but this one doesn't even come close. He was only in the first couple of minutes. They just used his name to sell more tickets. I can survive a bad movie but not exploitation.

Traveler

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 23, 2006 8:25 PM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Quote:
Originally posted by HeWhoKicksAlot:
Two words:

STARSHIP TROOPERS

I'm hard-pressed to pick a single scene. They were all entirely offensive, either to my intelligence or my sense of creativity.

Perhaps the most offensive (or nearly so) scene involves one officer's brain being sucked out of his head by a large bug's spiky tendril. Because, sure, sucking out someone's gray matter through a straw would of course instill you with all of their intelligence and insight...
Rob O.

I enjoyed Starship Troopers.

However, I was ill for a week after seeing Starship Troopers 2 *beats himself daily for EVER signing a petition to get Starship Troopers 2 made* needles to say, I'm not at all enthused about Starship Troopers 3

What do you make of the nylon dot cardigan and plastic mule rest?

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Tuesday, November 22, 2022 4:49 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Airplane! director slams Hollywood for "destroying comedy" and says his movie couldn't be made today

https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/david-zucker-airplane-hollywood
-destroying-comedy-20221112

Agree with Clockwork Orange btw still is one of the more shocking movies today even with our Liberal Gore and smut and Violence and Pornography in Films

the big cancel culture thing today is politics and many old Scifi Fanatsy films of Yester-Year would offend today's viewers

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Tuesday, November 22, 2022 5:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

You'd be hard pressed to find any media that wasn't offensive since 2012, sci-fi or otherwise.

--------------------------------------------------

Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

YOUR OPTIONS

SHARE THREAD

NEW POSTS TODAY

USER

POST DATE