Superman 2: Donner Cut review (Am I the only one who saw it?) by chrisisall

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Superman 2: Donner Cut review (Am I the only one who saw it?)

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 17:32
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Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:04 PM

WOW.

You gotta see it, Superman fans.
Sure, it ain't perfect, but considering what they had to work with, it's a great achievement.
Biggest problem: the ending. Gone is the atrocious 'kiss of forgetfulness', but the original 'turning time back' had to be used, as in the original script; they couldn't shoot another ending. As a BIG Superman fan myself, I'm grateful for this version, and it totally spoils the theatrical cut for me.
A polite effue to Richard lester for screwing with near-perfection.
I just wish they'd kept the 'soufle', and the 'taking away' of Lex at the Fortress scenes. Ah well, a minor nit to pick.

KNEEL before The Donner Cut Chrisisall

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Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:48 PM

SINGATE

I'm going to try and pick it up tomorrow, I mean later today. I'll check back in to let you know what I think. BTW part II has always been my favorite.

Edit: Have to put this on hold until Friday because Wally World didn't have this in stock. Guess I'll be dropping some money at Best Buy instead.
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Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:10 AM

GROUNDED

Didn't the first movie have a turn-back-time ending too? I forget...

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:11 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Grounded:
Didn't the first movie have a turn-back-time ending too? I forget...

Ha ha ha. A card, you are.
You have to look past what it is, and onto what it could have been.
As it is now, it's still great, just greater for the changes.

An Lois no longer has the best punch in the flick!

"C"ryptonite Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:15 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by singate:
BTW part II has always been my favorite.

Back a ways, I edited together my own version of it off ABC, and tried to eliminate much of what Donner and Thau thankfully did here (Lester schtick).

The always dead-serious Chrisisall

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 8:58 PM

SINGATE

Got my copy yesterday and just watched it a few hours ago. Instead of going through a scene by scene comparison I'll just touch on some of the high/low points in my humble opinion.

I completely enjoyed seeing Jor-el giving his son counsel. Not that the motherly advice in the Lester version was poorly done but come on, it's freakin' Brando! The scenes where supes gives up his powers then gets them back are top notch.

Lois shooting Clark was a vast imrovement over the hand in fire bit from the original version. It's hard to believe the footage used was from a screen test.

My only gripe with the Donner cut is the turn back time ending. I really liked the idea that Lois would have kept his secret instead of that crazy magical amnesia kiss from the original. So nothing that occured in the movie actually occured right? Then again, for some mysterious reason the people at the diner remember Clark's first visit.

Overall I'd say this version a little better than the one I grew up with. I'm so glad Donner didn't edit out two of my all time favorite movie quotes. "Come to me son of Jor-el...kneel before Zod!" and "This superman is nothing of the kind." I just delight in the way Terrance Stamp delivered those lines.

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Sunday, December 3, 2006 6:38 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by singate:
I'm so glad Donner didn't edit out two of my all time favorite movie quotes. "Come to me son of Jor-el...kneel before Zod!" and "This superman is nothing of the kind." I just delight in the way Terrance Stamp delivered those lines.

I also love the serious tone of the final confrontation at the Fortress, no silly 'hide and seek' fight, or 'big S throw'.

And hearing Lois say "Just don't forget, never forget" (like Clark's mom in 1) was beautiful.

Imperfect but fantastic Chrisisall

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Sunday, December 3, 2006 7:03 AM

PDCHARLES

What happened? He see your face?

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I also love the serious tone of the final confrontation at the Fortress, no silly 'hide and seek' fight, or 'big S throw'.

Oh no! Not the 'big S throw'

gotta pick this one up.

latest vid

the lyrics http://www.greenplastic.com/lyrics/lucky.php

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Sunday, December 3, 2006 7:48 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by pdcharles:

gotta pick this one up.

And no 'beams' out of the fingers.
The serious tone of Superman 2 outweighs anything you might have liked about the Lester version, and ther ARE some things I really liked about it.
Tell us what you think when ya get it, PD.

An undemanding male Chrisisall

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Monday, December 4, 2006 9:24 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

I sent my husband to get it yesterday & he returned with the older 2 disc version.I'm disappointed,but I'm also returning it for this version asap.

Bryce
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Monday, December 4, 2006 9:57 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by LittleAlbatross29:
I sent my husband to get it yesterday & he returned with the older 2 disc version.I'm disappointed,but I'm also returning it for this version asap.

I could see owning both versions to be a completeist about it....

I believe this is your floor Chrisisall

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Monday, December 4, 2006 10:12 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

I'm right there with you ,,but I can't convince my husband. I just read the book that came with Superman returns .Wow, I never knew he was so very cool.Even if I am a bat-girl at heart !

Bryce
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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 8:19 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by pdcharles:

gotta pick this one up.

Well didja get it?

Best way to see it: skip the first two of the last three chapters in the movie, that way the movie makes the most sense with Superman just saying goodbye to Lois on her balcony, then beating up Rocky at the diner, it's the way they should have edited it IMO (and they should have left in the deleted scene 'Take him away, boys').

SuperChrisisall

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:58 PM

PDCHARLES

What happened? He see your face?

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by pdcharles:

gotta pick this one up.

Well didja get it?

Best way to see it: skip the first two of the last three chapters in the movie, that way the movie makes the most sense with Superman just saying goodbye to Lois on her balcony, then beating up Rocky at the diner, it's the way they should have edited it IMO (and they should have left in the deleted scene 'Take him away, boys').

SuperChrisisall

No. not yet.... But I did finally see Superman Returns. WTF? Now, I see what all your threads have been about. Geez, it needed something more.

latest vid

the lyrics http://www.greenplastic.com/lyrics/lucky.php

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:32 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by pdcharles:

No. not yet.... But I did finally see Superman Returns. WTF? Now, I see what all your threads have been about. Geez, it needed something more.

It was a little 'meh'. But it does get better with repeated viewings. Some of the little nuances are better the second time around.
But it still pales next to the first two.
In fairness though, who's gonna do it better than Reeve?

Kneel before Chrisisall!

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