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Top five James Bond Films; favourites OR objective best- whichever

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
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Friday, February 16, 2007 12:11 PM

CHRISISALL


My favourites are (in no order):

Tomorrow Never Dies
Thunderball
Diamonds Are Forever
Man With The Golden Gun
Goldeneye

* Haven't seen Craig's one yet...

Chrisisall, liscenced to critique


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Friday, February 16, 2007 12:40 PM

MOOSE


Thunderball
For Your Eyes Only
A Spy Who Loved Me
From Russia With Love
Moonraker


Yes, I actually said Moonraker.
Get over it.
(It was the first one I saw in a theatre)

Haven't seen the Craig one either.

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Friday, February 16, 2007 12:56 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:

Moonraker

Hey- emotional attachments count, as long as you not placing in on an 'Objective Best' list.
Live And Let Die holds a fondness for me, even though it's not the greatest of 'em all.

Solitaire Chrisisall

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Friday, February 16, 2007 1:48 PM

BLUEEYEDBRIGADIER


Ok...let's see...my top 5 Bond films are:

1) Casino Royale
Bond is back...Bond is brutal...Bond is on the hunt

To me, this is the top Bond film because other than the tweaks to get the story into the 21st century character wise, this is Fleming at its core. Bond's cold, dangerous and a righteous force when pissed off. Can't wait for Bond 22

2) From Russia With Love
It's Connery's second Bond outing, but this is where the foundations are truly made for the series. Variety of exotic locales, lovely ladies and dangerous spy craft all mixed into one pot. While I love the Bond films one and all, a film where Bond's gadgets are all defensive and 007 offs the main henchman with his own garrotte wire-equipped watch? Definitely gotta give it high marks

3) On Her Majesty's Secret Service
People like to dump on George Lazenby because he he only did one Bond film and that he was a male model before getting the job. I would point out he was an ex-Aussie Special Forces soldier and that he had the hardest job, acting-wise, till Daniel Craig did Casino Royale: making Bond seem sympathetic when his wife is ruthlessly gunned down on their wedding day basically in front of his own eyes. That and his Bond managed to whoop ass with only his wits, training and ability to make allies with the most unlikely of people (his father-in-law was an Italian gangster, for Christ's sake!)

4) GoldenEye
Let it be known that I loved Pierce Brosnan as James Bond. Thought he was #2 behind Connery for doing the super spy up right on celluloid. Basically saw every one of his Bond films in theatres. But the plots were generally stuck in the bombast of the 1960s and 1970s, with all kinds of crazy stunts and maniacal villains, other than The World Is Not Enough and to a lesser extent, this film.

What really sells this film for me is that it recognizes Bond is a product of a different generation of political conflict and deals with the issue of good guys going bad with the character of Alec Trevelyan. Gotta admit though the idea that the former 006's parents with pro-Nazi Lienz Cossacks was rather stupid (uh...Sean Bean was a little too young to have memories of WWII, and there's no friggin' way MI-6 would hire the son of Lienz Cossacks to be a 00-level operative!)

4) The World Is Not Enough
Like I said...loved Brosnan as Bond and I thought this film, while bombastic with some of the stunts, definitely dealt with a current generation problem of terrorists potentially sabotaging oil pipelines to disrupt Western economics in a way that favoured the people behind the attacks, and obtaining nuclear weapons from former Soviet republics. That and its status as the first time we get to see a female villian and the first time a Bond Girl actually gets ed by Bond himself in cold blood. Definitely a majorly dramatic moment

But yeah...I am willing to see and read other's arguments for their favourite Bond flicks on top of what has been posted as of this moment

BlueEyedBrigadier

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Friday, February 16, 2007 2:06 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by BlueEyedBrigadier:

4) The World Is Not Enough

I like your list, but personally, I place Tomorrow Never Dies just above TWINE. Even though I like Pierce's acting better in TWINE, the overall pace and story (Not to mention Bond Girl- the most capable ever) of TND make me love it!!!

Just sayin' Chrisisall

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Friday, February 16, 2007 2:19 PM

BLUEEYEDBRIGADIER


Yeah...Michelle Yeoh's Wai Lin was definitely the most capable Bond Girl in the series history, but it's kinda unfair to compare her to other Bond Girls. She's a respected Asian actress AND she's a skilled martial artist after films like Supercop 2 and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon

My main complaint with Tomorrow Never Dies is that the baddie, much as I respect Jonathan Pryce as an actor, was a bit underwhelming. A William Randolph Hearst-wannabe with a grudge against Britain and China over Hong Kong? Not quite up there in the ranks of megalomaniac villains like Blofeld or Goldfinger

Literature has shown us some of humanity's greatest achievements; history, some of our greatest failures -- Alun Lewis

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Friday, February 16, 2007 2:29 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by BlueEyedBrigadier:

Not quite up there in the ranks of...Blofeld


But in effect, during that adventure, just as if not more deadly....and crazier.


A nice departure, I thought Chrisisall

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Friday, February 16, 2007 2:32 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by BlueEyedBrigadier:
Yeah...Michelle Yeoh's Wai Lin was definitely the most capable Bond Girl in the series history, but it's kinda unfair to compare her to other Bond Girls. She's a respected Asian actress AND she's a skilled martial artist after films like Supercop 2 and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon


Don't forget Wing Chun, Tai Chi Master or The Touch.

Not that I'm a fan Chrisisall

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Friday, February 16, 2007 9:06 PM

PIRATECAT


No 005- The Spy Who Loved Me
No 004- The Man With the Golden Gun
No 003- Diamonds are Forever
No 002- Thunderball
No 001- Goldfinger

Jill St John is my favorite Bond Girl but they are all very beautiful. In Thunderball Raquel Welch was cast as Domino but a another studio needed her. Go to JamesBondOdessy.com for more cool trivia. This is a hard list for myself being a huge Bond fan. George Lazenby not so much.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Monday, February 19, 2007 12:21 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by PirateCat:

Jill St John is my favorite Bond Girl

I can totally understand that sentiment.

But PirateCat, you no lika de Brosnan?
I thought Goldeneye or Tomorrow Never Dies would have edged out Spy Who Loved Me on most lists...?

Licenced to irritate Chrisisall

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Monday, February 19, 2007 12:40 PM

FREDGIBLET


It's been a while since I've seen most of them but here's my list

1. Casino Royale (Not only the best Bond movie, but a really damn god movie by itself)

2. Goldeneye (Bond steps into the modern age)

3. Licence to Kill (Bond goes on a revenge rampage)

4. Goldfinger (Oddjob, nuf said)

5. Tomorrow Never Dies (The main villan was weak but the rest of the movie IMHO is really good.)

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Tuesday, February 20, 2007 6:35 AM

SHINYED


My favorite is Moonraker hands down....

a) Lois Chiles is hot & smart
b) Jaws is great in it
c) Corinne Clery is hot
d) The opening with the shuttle blasting off from the 747 is awesome
e) Moore's freefall from the private jet in the beginning is one of the best ever filmed.
f) Drax's space station is cool
g) Drax's girls and big snake in Brazil
h) Space shuttle's flying and docking are great
i) The receptionist in Rome is hot.
j) Great humor with the "close encounters" ring for the security pad at the poison lab.
k) Vandenburg teams' EVA with laser rifles fighting against Drax's men in space
l) Best closing lines....Minister says " It appears Bond is attempting re-entry", and Dr. Goodhead says "Take me around the world one more time James."

The next 4 I like are :
Goldfinger
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
From Russia With Love

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Tuesday, February 20, 2007 1:22 PM

CAPTAINJAMESKIRK


Here is my opinion, and it's the right one concerning the best James Bond movies:
1) Goldfinger
2) From Russia with love
3) The world is not enough
4) Die another day
5) Casino Royal

I've seen Casino Royal and I must tell you that at the end of the movie when Craig says " My name is Bond, James Bond" he earned it. This is a must see for all true Bond lovers.

Captain James T. Kirk
USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

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Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:05 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Thunderball
Goldfinger
From Russia With Love.
The Spy Who Loved Me (The only thing Roger Moore ever did worth anything.)
The Living Daylights.




Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:10 PM

MONKSDAD


1. GoldFinger
2. Never say Never again
3. Thunderball
4. Dr. No
5. Casino royale

"And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community."

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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:02 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:

The Spy Who Loved Me (The only thing Roger Moore ever did worth anything.)



Oh, I think The Man With The Golden Gun qualifies as a good movie (minus the dumb karate-lesson scene).

Scaramangaisall

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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:07 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by monksdad:

2. Never say Never again

I used to really like that movie, but I recently purchased Tunderball, and now I can't see NSNA again without wincing...

Largoisall

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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:07 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Oh, I think The Man With The Golden Gun qualifies as a good movie (minus the dumb karate-lesson scene).

Two words: third nipple!

What kind of villain has a third nipple? He has millions in criminal assets; he owns his own island. Get some cosmetic surgery! The movie wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t the best.

In general, Moore was a terrible Bond, far too conservative and staunchly. He's more like Bond's butler. Connery is the reigning king of all things Bond.

Never Say Never Again was not a real Bond film. It was a non-EON remake of Thunderball. Now I won’t say that it is a bad film, but it is on my short list of the worst Bond films, ever. First of all, it’s old Bond. Who wants to see old Bond? Second, it’s a remake of Thunderball – the single greatest Bond film in history. Just watch Thunderball, for crying out loud! Thirdly, it’s a gimmick. The success of the whole film was based squarely on the notion that Connery could be persuaded to do another Bond film if he was paid enough – so what!?! I’ll dance naked on a water heater if you pay me enough. So they made their point: big deal; I’ll stick with the real Bond films.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:02 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:

What kind of villain has a third nipple? He has millions in criminal assets; he owns his own island. Get some cosmetic surgery!

It was part of who Scaramanga was...no need to get rid of it. He marched in the Third Nipple Pride Parade that year.
Quote:



In general, Moore was a terrible Bond, far too conservative and staunchly. He's more like Bond's butler. Connery is the reigning king of all things Bond.

I agree to a point- but I do like Brosnan's take, different...somewhat deeper.
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Never Say Never Again was not a real Bond film. Who wants to see old Bond?

He was still in pretty good shape, heh heh.
Quote:

Second, it’s a remake of Thunderball – the single greatest Bond film in history. Just watch Thunderball, for crying out loud!
You are argueably correct; getting Thunderball made me sell my copy of Never Say Never Again.

It's EMELIO Largo Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:06 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by monksdad:
1. GoldFinger

Just got it days ago, god that was a good film...hadn't seen it in decades!!!! The music just keeps playing in my head.

*must re-arrange my top five*(in order)
#1 Tomorrow Never Dies/Thunderball
#2 Diamonds Are Forever
#3 Goldfinger
#4 Man With The Golden Gun


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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:07 PM

CAPTAINJAMESKIRK


"Never say never again" although a James Bond movie and starring the BEST James Bond EVER Sean Connery doesn't necessarily count. It is NOT one of the original Broccoli films. NSNA was independently produced by Sean Connery and "Thunderball" director Kevin McClory who I believe owned the film rights. NSNA is more or less a remake.

Captain James T. Kirk
USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:10 PM

MONKSDAD


Sean connery is james bond, therefore never say never again is a bond film, i dont care what vegetable you bring up.... the broccoli's have ruined the bond flix as of late and have spoiled all of pierce brosnan's bond flix with there BS Scripts. They look to be getting back on track with the latest flick though.

"And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community."

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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:12 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by monksdad:
the broccoli's have ruined the bond flix as of late and have spoiled all of pierce brosnan's bond flix with there BS Scripts.

Disagree dude, the first three were good, IMO.

The World was enough Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:18 PM

MONKSDAD


I dont think they took advantage of Mr. Brosnans talents enough, I would say they were average at best made only that way by Mr. Brosnans talent.

"And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community."

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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:33 PM

FREDGIBLET


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by monksdad:
the broccoli's have ruined the bond flix as of late and have spoiled all of pierce brosnan's bond flix with there BS Scripts.

Disagree dude, the first three were good, IMO.

The World was enough Chrisisall



I'll have to agree with Chris on this one, Die Another Day sucks and TWINE and TND weren't perfect, but they were still pretty good movies...IMO at least.

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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:27 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by fredgiblet:
TWINE and TND weren't perfect, but they were still pretty good movies...IMO at least.

And I'll agree with Monksdad that it was Mr. Brosnan that help make them so.

Actually, there were moments in both flicks that were great, I mean, really great.

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It's the little things Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:43 PM

FREDGIBLET


Chrisisall, just wondering, have you seen Casino Royale yet? And if yes, what did you think?

EDIT: nevermind, just re-read your original post.

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Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:57 AM

CHRISISALL


I'll see it when The DVD comes out, but I'll admit upfront to being heavily prejudiced against it the way I was with The Living Daylights; Craig is a fine actor I'm sure, but he doesn't look like the Bond in my head from the novels, which is actually somewhere between Connery and Brosnan. Lazenby was very close, but I didn't like his thespian skills all that much. Dalton had the character down, but again, he didn't quite look the part for me.

Picky picky Chrisisall

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Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:09 AM

CAPTAINJAMESKIRK


I agree Sean Connery is James Bond. I believe I did call him the best James Bond ever, and calling him that is NOT an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

Captain James T. Kirk
USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

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Monday, February 26, 2007 1:05 PM

LWAVES




1: Goldfinger - Just so many classic bits.
2: The Spy Who Loved Me - Coz it was the one that introduced me to Bond.
3: Casino Royale - as stated a, top film in it's own right.
4: You Only Live Twice - The volcano set and cute Japanese girls.
5: Tomorrow Never Dies - Brosnans best in a great run.

Connery will always be Bond, however good his followers are. Brosnan would be second. Can't count Craig yet as he's only done one movie but I thought he definitely injected something new into the performance that was needed, even if he didn't look like a 'typical' Bond. Moore was good but the humour didn't always suit the moment.



"If I hear voices and someone is really there, does that mean I'm going REALLY crazy?"

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:30 AM

JERAXUS


Casino royal
live and let die
a view to a kill
goldfinger
from russia with love

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