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50 Most Influential Visual Effects Films of All Time

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:47 AM

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Was checking my regular sites, and I found this story with the following list attached.

Eric Roth, Executive Director of the Visual Effects Society (VES), announced today the results of the VES 50: The Most Influential Visual Effects Films of All Time, which was determined by a vote of VES members. The VES 50 is the backdrop of the 2007 VES Festival of Visual Effects, which will take place the weekend of June 7-10 at the Writers Guild Theater in Beverly Hills.

"We’re thrilled to present VES 50. These films have had a significant, lasting impact on the practice and appreciation of visual effects as an integral, artistic element of cinematic expression and the storytelling process,” said Roth. We are equally thrilled about the programs that follow this theme and the industry’s living legends we have participating in them."

THE VES 50 (Bold and Italics indicates a tie score)

1. Star Wars (1977)
2. Blade Runner (1982)
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
3. The Matrix (1999)
5. Jurassic Park (1993)
6. Tron (1982)
7. King Kong (1933)
8. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)
9. Alien (1979)
10. The Abyss (1989)
11. The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
12. Metropolis (1927)
13. A Trip to the Moon (1902)
14. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)
15. The Wizard of Oz (1939)
16. Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)
17. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
18. Titanic (1997)
19. Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
20. Jason and the Argonauts (1963)
20. E.T. the Extraterrestrial (1982)
22. Toy Story (1995)
23. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006)
24. The Ten Commandments (1956)
25. The War of the Worlds (1953)
25. Forrest Gump (1994)
25. Citizen Kane (1941)
25 The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad (1958)
25. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954)
30. The Terminator (1984)
31. Aliens (1986)
32. Mary Poppins (1964)
33. Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
34. Forbidden Planet (1956)
35. Babe (1995)
36. The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
36. Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002)
38. King Kong (2005)
39. Planet of the Apes (1968)
40. Fantastic Voyage (1966)
41. Jaws (1975)
41. Ghostbusters (1984)
43. Sin City (2005)
44. Superman: The Movie (1978)
45. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
46. The Lost World (1925)
46. Return of the Jedi (1983)
48. What Dreams May Come (1998)
49. An American Werewolf in London (1981)
50. Darby O’Gill and the Little People (1958)
50. The Fifth Element (1997)

Normally these kinds of lists dissapoint me, but in this case I found it to be a very definitive, well thought out list that really took consideration of non sci-fi movies that were fx pioneers. I like that CITIZEN KANE got on the list not only for pioneering the used of forced perspective, but it's extensive use of matte paintings that allowed the movie to look more massive and epic than it's budget would have allowed. I like that METROPOLIS and A TRIP TO THE MOON was so high on the list since they were revolutionary for it's time over a hundred years ago. CE3K should be at #8 since it's advanced fx's are not that noticeable, but still revolutionary (the fact that you could pan to a special effect instead of having the camera locked down was a huge step at the time).

My only complaints is that ROGER RABBIT should be higher than it is since it's still the gold standard of seamless acting against nothing that'll be filled in later. You look at the interaction between Eddie Valiant and Roger and compare it to other instances of actors reacting to nothing, it still stands the test of time. WHAT DREAMS MAY COME should also be higher, in my opinion, since it really blew my mind the first time I saw it and how Robin Williams seemed to be walking around in a painting for real. It really did seem like he was in Heaven. Here's hoping Peter Jackson takes notes for when he does the Heaven segments in THE LOVELY BONES.

So what do you guys think?

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:42 AM

CRUITHNE3753

One of my favourite effects is rather subtle. It's in LotR:The Two Towers, when Gandalf breaks Saruman's spell over King Theoden and life returns to him.

(And anyone British over about 30 suddenly goes "it's Yosser Hughes!")

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:14 AM

SINGATE

That's a pretty damn comprehensive list, I expected older movies like Metropolis to be overlooked but it appears nothing was left out. Can't find too much fault with the order either, unless I were to get really nitpicky.

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:14 AM

CHRISISALL

VERY comprehensive.

Nothing to add Chrisisall

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:14 AM

CYBERSNARK

One of my favourite effects is from LotR, the continuous effect of digitally tweaking actors' sizes to get Hobbits, Dwarves, Elves, Men, and prodigiously-tall Gandalf all existing in the same shots without relying on forced perspective or camera tricks.

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:21 AM

DERANGEDMILK

I agree, a pretty damn good list. I don't see how the new Pirates movie made it on their though. Its to new to be influential and I don't remember the effects being all that spectacular.
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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:35 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by derangedmilk:
I agree, a pretty damn good list. I don't see how the new Pirates movie made it on their though.

I would have listed the first one...

Why's the rum gone Chrisisall

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:48 AM

REGINAROADIE

Actually, in regards to DEAD MAN'S CHEST's visual FX, there actually a step forward for visual fx in one case.

Usually, when an actor is wearing a motion capture suit (basically blue spandex covered in ping pong balls from head to toe so that FX animators have a skeletal guide to work with when animating), they normally have to wear it on a soundstage under a rigidly controlled environment. But with DEAD MAN'S CHEST, the various members of Davy Jones' crew were able to go out on location in the Carribean and interact with the environment. When you say them come out of the water and walk out onto the beach, that was for real. EW.com did a really great article on it, explaining it in more detail and how it is a breakthrough for VFX artists.

While DEAD MAN'S CHEST script-wise may have left for something to be desired, the fact that you can go out on location and film it for real instead of on a soundstage is actually exciting for me. This could lead to a fuller immersion into a fantasy world.

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:31 PM

WACKYNEPHEW

I think it's too long. For instance, the LOTR movies should be counted as one. The effects from The Abyss and Terminator 2 are pretty much the same I think. I would have included whichever one came first. The idea being that the one influenced the other. Unless each Star Wars movie broke some kind of new ground, I would group them together also. I would also differenciate between computer aided effects and the pre-computer age effects. Its seems to me that it took a lot more ingenuity to come up with cool special effects back in the day. Planet of the Apes had incredible make-up effects for its time. Not sure if it falls under special effects.

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:08 PM

REGINAROADIE

Well, when it comes to make-up effects, it's still a VISUAL effect. You could make the same argument for AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON. It's main special effect was make-up, but it's one big gigantic leap for make-up. It was the first movie to win the Oscar for Make-up. The only two movies that won awards for make-up (APES and THE 5000 FINGERS OF DR. LAO, I think) were honorary Oscars. And given that most werewolf transformations are done digitally now and look really fake, that makes the transformation on WEREWOLF IN LONDON even more jaw-droppingly powerful.

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:50 PM

WACKYNEPHEW

Granted, but it was the transformation itself that blew everybodys mind. That part where his hands stretch into the wolf leg was almost painful to watch! The make-up was awesome, but what impressed me was how they put that scene together to achieve that result. It was a great combination of special visual effects and make-up( sorry, I can't put them in the same category).I definitely do not have a problem with AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON being on this list.

Now I have to go rent it.

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Friday, May 18, 2007 4:11 AM

WHOOPS

What!! how can Fifth Element be bottom that has better effect than some up to date films i think.

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Friday, May 18, 2007 9:36 AM

CYBERSNARK

Fifth Element does have good effects, but it didn't really break any new ground. The most visually unique thing it did was to have an in-motion CGI morph (as opposed to having the character stop moving, morph, then resume movement).

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Friday, May 18, 2007 12:40 PM

LWAVES

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Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
One of my favourite effects is rather subtle. It's in LotR:The Two Towers, when Gandalf breaks Saruman's spell over King Theoden and life returns to him.

(And anyone British over about 30 suddenly goes "it's Yosser Hughes!")

Yeah, I could always see Bernard Hill going to Peter Jackson and saying "Gis a job. I can do that."

I can agree with most of the list, maybe not in the order, but most are there.

POTC shouldn't be there.
One of Sinbad or Jason And The Argonauts should go. Both pretty much use the same idea (personally I would keep Jason).
The Abyss and T2 for the same reason. The Abyss pioneered the effect but it's more refined in T2.
Only Star Wars should be there not the other two.
Same with LOTR, only FOTR should be there (although the main battle in ROTK is pretty hard to ignore!!!)

My top few would be (in order):
Star Wars
LOTR: Fellowship Of The Ring
Superman
Close Encounters
Jurassic Park
Blade Runner
The Abyss
The Matrix
Roger Rabbit
Toy Story
Forrest Gump
Jason And The Argonauts
Titanic
2001
Planet Of The Apes (60s version)

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:10 PM

CYBERSNARK

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Originally posted by lwaves:
POTC shouldn't be there.

Pirates had that seamless transition from live-Jack to CGI-motion-capture-skeleton-Jack --an effect that even the Matrix films couldn't match in quality (remember how CGI-Neo looked like a video-game model?). No cutting away, no switching camera angles --Brad Pitt just stepped back and became the CGI effect in a single shot. Perfect integration.

Pirates II was the first to have on-location motion-capture. That scene of Jones' Sea-Wraith crew walking out of the surf? That's real water splashing around their ankles.

Usually when people do motion-capture, they're on a bare soundstage, and the digital puppets are composited into the live footage (where the "human" actors are interacting with a ping-pong ball on a stick, or something). Pirates II had the actors "rigged" on location (and interacting with the props, sets, lighting, and even the elements), being captured in real-time with the rest of the cast.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:25 PM

GIXXER

What I liked about the list was that they were mostly good films in their own right, and mostly the first of serieses (not sure if that's a real word...)and mostly not terribly recent.

With the honourable exception of Aliens, they avoided the "milk the idea for a lot more than it's worth, sod scripts and characterisation, we'll just sling in an extra 20 minutes of CGI, because the budget's six times the original's" syndrome.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:12 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

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Brad Pitt just stepped back and became the CGI effect in a single shot. Perfect integration.

Brad Pitt? BRAD PITT? What movie were you watching? Brad*mother-humping*Pitt? Ayiieeeee.

I can agree with some of those, but Citizen Kane, really? I'd take that off and Snow White (I know it was the first feature length animated movie, but I don't feel it belongs on a special effects list) and make all the sequeled movies into one as stated. But I noticed the later SW movies weren't mentioned, hmmm, wonder why? I mean Jar Jar alone.... oh, ya now I see.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:23 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

I really don’t know enough about it to judge, but I will anyway. It seem like Bladerunner should be further down the list then it is. Does its contribution to special effects really trump that of the Matrix, 2001, and Jurassic Park?

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs was animated and like paper and paint animated, so why is it on the list at all?

Other then that, it seems to make sense. Most of the top ten, in one order or another, are pretty much what I would have suspected.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:30 PM

REGINAROADIE

Well, I think with SNOW WHITE, not only was it the first full length animated movie, but I'm guessing it was one of the pioneering animated film to use the multi-plane method. On the FANTASIA DVD, they talk about one of the early technological breakthroughs Walt created was this thing where there was this machine that had all these layers of animation and background on panels of glass stacked on one another so that a camera could zoom and pan on an image. It was to give the illusion that the camera was in the animated world and that it could travel through the space of that world towards a specific location.

I'm guessing that was the tech breakthrough, I dunno.

But I do know that KANE definitly deserves to be on that list. It may not look it, but it is an FX heavy film that helped shape the film language that we take for granted. See my initial post, which goes into detail on the innovations of KANE.

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Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:45 PM

CLJOHNSTON108

Very comprehensive list, but I wish Contact & Apollo 13 would've been included.

(I'm still bitter about Apollo 13 losing the Visual FX Oscar to Babe!

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Wednesday, July 25, 2007 3:48 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Well, I think with SNOW WHITE, not only was it the first full length animated movie, but I'm guessing it was one of the pioneering animated film to use the multi-plane method. On the FANTASIA DVD, they talk about one of the early technological breakthroughs Walt created was this thing where there was this machine that had all these layers of animation and background on panels of glass stacked on one another so that a camera could zoom and pan on an image. It was to give the illusion that the camera was in the animated world and that it could travel through the space of that world towards a specific location.

I'm guessing that was the tech breakthrough, I dunno.

Makes sense to me.

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Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:16 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Quote:
Originally posted by lwaves:
POTC shouldn't be there.
Pirates had that seamless transition from live-Jack to CGI-motion-capture-skeleton-Jack --an effect that even the Matrix films couldn't match in quality (remember how CGI-Neo looked like a video-game model?). No cutting away, no switching camera angles --Brad Pitt just stepped back and became the CGI effect in a single shot. Perfect integration.

Pirates II was the first to have on-location motion-capture. That scene of Jones' Sea-Wraith crew walking out of the surf? That's real water splashing around their ankles.

Usually when people do motion-capture, they're on a bare soundstage, and the digital puppets are composited into the live footage (where the "human" actors are interacting with a ping-pong ball on a stick, or something). Pirates II had the actors "rigged" on location (and interacting with the props, sets, lighting, and even the elements), being captured in real-time with the rest of the cast.

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Brad Pitt?

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Friday, June 16, 2023 4:37 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Tron changed a lot

and when less was more, the visuals in Nosferatua 1922 silent German Expressionist horror film directed by F. W. Murnau, Trip to the Moon or Le voyage dans la lune or the feats and stunts of "Buster" Keaton

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There are interesting channels out there like Corridor Crew and 'VFX Artists React' to ... bla bla CGI that show you the secrets of what can be done on home computers

I would say Marvel/Disney changed the game to a new level, I know some of the films are now seen as trash but what they have done for FX is incredible

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Friday, June 16, 2023 1:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I would say Marvel/Disney changed the game to a new level, I know some of the films are now seen as trash but what they have done for FX is incredible

Sure. Pre-Phase-Four, for the most part. They're all trash now. Not just Marvel, but DC as well. DC never really impressed at all in the special effects department after Nolan's Batman movies. The budgets keep getting more and more bloated, but the special effects get worse every year that passes.

This is what happens when you jump to quantity over quality.

Iron Man 1 from 15 years ago has better special effects than any Marvel movie or TV show to come out in the last 4 years. Don't believe me? Watch Iron Man and then watch any Marvel movie released after End Game back to back and see for yourself. Hell... we're getting to the point that Jurassic Park from 30 years ago holds up better than the new Marvel/DC stuff.

CGI can't be everything. You need practical effects, and you need to have at least SOME of your movies grounded in a reality that people can relate to. And they really need to stop making people who don't have specific super powers that would enable them to dish out and take a monster beating dishing them out and taking them. Everyone is capable of suspending disbelief to a certain extent, but in the effort to always one-up the previous outing they've pushed EVERYTHING to levels so obscene that people are just tuning out from exhaustion and boredom.

And if you don't use any practical effects at all and chose to go the entire CGI route like they do today, expect the already lesser-quality special effects to look EXTREMELY dated soon.

Remember how mind-blowing the special effects for The Matrix seemed when the movie first came out and much of the technology used in it was brand new? Most of that memory is just nostalgia in your head. If you watch The Matrix today, a great deal of the special effects scenes are laughingly outdated, whereas Jurassic Park from 6 years earlier, with the exception of a few questionable CGI scenes using 1993 technology holds up completely in 2023.

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Monday, June 26, 2023 3:34 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Seems like short shrift is given to underwater visual effects. IIRC Hunt For Red October was groundbreaking for that, tho I'm sure others contributed, and since then everybody has copied HFRO.

Backdraft made inroads on filming flames, which had been rarely done effectively for cinema (hint: flip the room upside down to film).

Terminator had groundbreaking effects not previously explored as competently, and certainly looks dated now.
But T2 had other effects, not really seen before, but separate from the original.

When looking at dated looking effects, try to remember that the digitizing process to view in Ultra Super Dooper Deluxe Extreme Vision was not the caliber of cinematography available at the time of the production.

Hmmmm. No Star Trek - based on a show which really did push the frontier forward.
Why not City of Lost Children?
The Thing (1982)?
James Bond?
Braveheart?
Total Recall?
12 Monkeys?
Valerian?
Bullet?

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Monday, June 26, 2023 6:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Seems like short shrift is given to underwater visual effects. IIRC Hunt For Red October was groundbreaking for that, tho I'm sure others contributed, and since then everybody has copied HFRO.

The Abyss was quite impressive for its time.

Quote:
Backdraft made inroads on filming flames, which had been rarely done effectively for cinema (hint: flip the room upside down to film).

Terminator had groundbreaking effects not previously explored as competently, and certainly looks dated now.
But T2 had other effects, not really seen before, but separate from the original.

When looking at dated looking effects, try to remember that the digitizing process to view in Ultra Super Dooper Deluxe Extreme Vision was not the caliber of cinematography available at the time of the production.

Not exactly true. They were able to film the movies in ultra-high definition if they paid for the expensive stock. There just wasn't anywhere to show the movies in that high of quality before HD theaters and flat screen TVs, so they didn't care all that much is all. This is why so many movies that have come out on BluRay or are streamed at 4k from eons ago can look amazing. But only if they properly preserved the original master print, and that print was filmed using the expensive film stock.

This is one of the reasons that so many of the special effects in The Flash when they were showing long dead versions of Superman looked like Playstation 2 graphics. They actually admitted to downloading videos from YouTube and putting them in the movie.

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Hmmmm. No Star Trek - based on a show which really did push the frontier forward.
Why not City of Lost Children?
The Thing (1982)?
James Bond?
Braveheart?
Total Recall?
12 Monkeys?
Valerian?
Bullet?

If I didn't mention The Thing anywhere in this thread, that was an oversight.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Was The Abyss really impressive visually? It seemed a lot of stationary activity, with an underwater set. The breaching was better.

THFRO was displaying 3D spatial maneuvering underwater in a way understandable to the ignorant audience - like dogfighting in the air. Be interesting to hear of a precursor in that vein.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2023 7:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Was The Abyss really impressive visually? It seemed a lot of stationary activity, with an underwater set. The breaching was better.

I disagree.

That set was amazing.

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