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What Good Sci-Fi am I missing?
Saturday, June 5, 2004 9:56 PM
THESPELLJAMMER
Monday, March 4, 2024 12:41 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Monday, March 4, 2024 2:10 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Wednesday, May 15, 2024 9:37 PM
Thursday, May 16, 2024 7:56 PM
Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:07 PM
Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Dark Mater I watched a few seasons its a few years back but not he same show There is the new 2024 TV series, some China guy in America story worked like a beast of burden politics blocks his achievements maybe stars with Meryl Streep, also a fun Syfy tv series about a ragtag scifi spaceship crew with memory loss maybe you were drinking a lot of booze, a good show
Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: But that episode, as silly as it was, really put the glue on the characters and made you believe that this was now a team of people who cared for each other and weren't just random amnesiac strangers who didn't trust anyone and were only looking out for Number #1 like everyone did in the beginning of the series.
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I can't remember a single character's name in Dark Matter now, but I do remember they did a great job making you care about all the characters as the story unfolded.
Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Ok might give that first ep a look already seen a series of blogger gif or tv link online, so I know who is in it at least Apple Tv is not the worst however they have backed up crap like the new movie Napoleon.
Quote:EDIT having a look now maybe some camera writing Foreshadowing the story device utilized to give a hint or indication of future events in the story ... not sure if Foreshadowing, I think we expect it these days.
Quote:Guy who wrote this show, a positive and other novels was a show I previously watched, books were adapted into the television series 'Wayward Pines'.
Quote:Joel Edgerton Zero Dark Thirty, Great Gatsby he almost looks like a twin of Steve Bacic, tv Stargate, BattleStar, Xfiles, guested in the Xmen movie and Andromeda tv (this site used to be an Andromeda site) Steve is more athletic and nose is different but they look almost the same, I kinda feel like Ive seen the face a lot more? Jennifer Connelly
Quote:teen kid doesn't crash car, forgiving
Quote:Schrödinger's Cat
Quote:Friend wins a book prize a call / text disturbs night of wine with wife, he seems comfortable-ish but no satisfaction or interaction with students Wife says go meet friend spooky car pulling away, out of tune music we ought to get outta this place, illuminat pirate news occult tattoo, weird seeing group introduced fast their faces stare at the camera almost breaking the 4th wall so you almost feel drunkish in a bar it slows down camera pulls in, they have a quiet moment money, Neurotech conspiracy unfolds?
Quote:Also actress Jennifer Connelly and weird alt dimension geometry in the intro something weird may happen?
Quote:like that Bowie scene
Quote:hope it adds humor, I'm both a fan and a critic of a guy like Joss but at least he throws in jokes
Thursday, May 16, 2024 10:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Seems its going to go 'Quantum Leap' mixed with alt reality thriller horror maybe?
Quote:In real life NASA science types they say 'Dark Matter' is a real thing but simply unknown matter, in movie media there was a drama with Meryl Streep the other movie I think it was Bush years, Patriot Act, ban stem cells, sanction French Cheese, dont trust the Russian or Chinese ...it looked watchable but I never seen it seems like a docu drama the subject does not look happy one of the actress was in the tv series Fringe, another in Argo, Atlas Shrugged
Quote:As for the current Dark Matter I will finish the first episode, good opening pilot
Quote:Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: But that episode, as silly as it was, really put the glue on the characters and made you believe that this was now a team of people who cared for each other and weren't just random amnesiac strangers who didn't trust anyone and were only looking out for Number #1 like everyone did in the beginning of the series. maybe you didn't forget
Quote: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I can't remember a single character's name in Dark Matter now, but I do remember they did a great job making you care about all the characters as the story unfolded. They didn't have names they had numbers, not as wacko as an old cult TV Show The Prisoner is a British television series created by Patrick McGoohan...in Dark Matter they named each other by numbers as they came out of the cryo suspended animation pods. Although I remember one called 'The Android'
Thursday, May 16, 2024 10:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: They didn't have names they had numbers, not as wacko as an old cult TV Show The Prisoner is a British television series created by Patrick McGoohan...in Dark Matter they named each other by numbers as they came out of the cryo suspended animation pods. Although I remember one called 'The Android'
Quote:Originally posted by SIX: Oh right! Numbers. Was "Jayne" "two"? Was the young girl "six"? I might be totally wrong on those but that's what's stuck in my mind right now for some reason. Wasn't "One" the guy you thought was going to be your "avatar" and the main character of the show but then he turned out to be a bad guy? Heh... Crazy how long buried memories start coming back to you but only in part.
Friday, May 17, 2024 12:04 AM
Friday, May 17, 2024 5:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Did you watch the 3rd season? :
Friday, May 17, 2024 5:24 AM
Friday, May 17, 2024 5:35 AM
Friday, May 17, 2024 2:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Finished the first ep seemed a little like Counterpart TV series if I could compare it to anything, 'Counterpart' is also the alternative world type show. I don't know where they might go with the plot so it could go down the alternate Universe at War or Spy Gangster Drama or the Imposter Body Snatchers route, MissionImpossible, There Will Be Blood, Kurosawa's Kagemusha, The Broken a 2008 French-British horror film exploring Capgras delusion, a psychological condition also known as impostor syndrome.
Quote:Counterpart Tv Plot there was an experiment in Germany but its in Germany, the alternative reality Germany is still under post war international protect and its going to go into an even bigger alt timeline revisionist history split. In the show you also have some type of a Berlin-based World agency making sure it all runs like clockwork. The non-linear backstory plot-line that is eventually revealed - Two parallel Earths were created they have a tunnel or doorway to both Earth-1 Earth-2 and both began studying how the initially identical Earths diverge...the study is mostly hidden from the public but somehow a super-Flu-Virus is released it only truly damages one of the worlds / universe and the two different worlds/ dimensions enter a state of super cold war. This is the backstory until the 'plot' changes in the pilot and J. K. Simmons as Howard Silk, an ordinary employee meets his 'copy' of sorts a more cold, aggressive, militant, ruthless and ambitious 'counterpart'. I watched a season it was ok this was during the Trump era of political madness, maybe they could have rallied for another 3rd season but movies and tv were starting to crash a little and then Covid hits in the real world. It's as much as an espionage thriller or commentary on Dystopia with a bureaucratic UN type agency. The trailer may explain it better
Quote:The other Dark Matter Canadian Syfy series was also pre-Trump and during Trump era of political madness, Dark Matter 2015-2017 set in space is really nothing like Apple's Dark Matter Series 2024 other than you can class them both as scifi. I would say Dark Matter 2004 is more like Counterpart or Fringe, the episodic shows like Outer Limits or Twilight Zone, The Man in the High Castle, Sliders and Quantum Leap more episodic upbeat there is also Stranger Things, there is 'Dark' German Fernsehserie but it is slow, atmospheric and leaves clues and is cryptic I was watching it casually, but you can miss stuff if you don't pay full attention there is a lot going on in one of the seasons so its not the type of German ghostly scifi show you watch casually while playing a guitar or friends come around and have a beer or a joint or something I think I will go back to it.
Quote:For now I would compare Dark Matter 2024 to the Counterpart TV series.
Quote:There was also a very old show the Scifi now Syfy Channel would show as re-runs the 'Otherworld' about a swiss family robinson household plot but thrown into a Dystopia another Escape from LA Escape from NewYork Dimension
Quote:Didn't see 'The Prisoner 2009 miniseries' might give it a watch, i t looks a high enough rated TV Show six of of 10 maybe 7 on some blogs although the official snobby critics at Rotten Tomatoes hate it audience is higher at 40% rating...not very good?
Quote:Sliders was a big cult hit similar to the plot but very episodic at times, more like Quantum Leap maybe. 'Charlie Jade' was another, it had a few fans here on fireflyfans but Scifi put it on some graveyard shift broadcast slot. It was some joint South African and Canada Montreal production around the time Canada was making good US tv and South Africa was growing with Invictus, District 9 but all that era seems gone now Charlie Jade was very Blade Runner-ish
Quote:So again I would compare the new Dark Matter more to the Counterpart TV series Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Did you watch the 3rd season? : It is rare for me to watch a full season of anything even more rare to finish a season 2 or 3, so no
Sunday, May 19, 2024 7:13 PM
Sunday, May 19, 2024 10:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: its a pity you don't enjoy a style and genre born of Blade Runner
Quote:Outside of the Matrix thing Maybe play Deus Ex rewtahc Judge Dredd and look at the comics or read a William Gibson books
Quote:I know you watch foreign film but pretty sure you missed manga series or anime 'Akira' and there is Alita: Battle Angel or Blade Runner 2049
Quote:Otherworld is perhaps dated, 1980s tv
Quote:Dark Matter 2024 still enjoying it might make it to ep 3 or 4 or whatever is out there now
Monday, May 20, 2024 5:47 AM
Quote:'THE LOVE INTEREST'
Monday, May 20, 2024 9:07 AM
Monday, May 20, 2024 7:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Ep 2 was the weaker, I liked the Art idea it maybe even pays tribute or referenced that other movie Labyrinth the scene with Doors Riddle trying to figure out Bowie Goblin King Maze. Something about the 3 smoking weed was it or having a drink but then an intense conversation starts 'hypothetical' that stops being intense about another man living a similar but very different life, it was a missed opportunity a joke to throw in, a chance for more anger, something else back and forth maybe humor, a reaction...but there was almost nothing, maybe they were playing sleepy and tired but I think it felt like a wasted scene.
Quote:Still feel like there is a whole Stolen Identity Face-Off Body Snatcher possession memory transfer mind hijacking into Body Suit Evil Doppelgänger from the Bizarre Mirror Universe...a common plot point Wolverine asks who am I and Identify your real self through Amnesia and missing Memory, forgetting your thoughts and person later proves to be important, the newbie not really new engages in acts that do not make sense...again similar to the other 'Dark Matter' with a space ship who forgot who they were but they twins one good and one evil? they have switched places. 'A Stolen Life' about Twins there was also a Van Damme movie, Double Impact? Sherlock Holmes, CSI, Poirot Murder Mystery maybe Xfiles, Enemy of the State
Quote:SIX: I think you need to get ready to feel that way a lot. My mind has been swimming with the possibility of what is actually going on this whole time too. After 3 episodes, hilariously, part of me is starting to think that everything going on has a much more simple and almost trite/tropish motivation behind them. I don't think it's possible at all that these feelings are right, and I think that I'm being manipulated to feel that way by the story. I REALLY want to tell you a certain Nicolas Cage movie part of this is really starting to remind me of, but I don't want to spoil anything for you because just mentioning the name of the movie would be a spoiler so I can't. You'll know what I know after you watch 2 more episodes.
Quote:Sudden jumps between worlds is not as smooth as I thought it could be and adds a little confusion interrupting what could be a more natural flow of scifi drama story, its good they added that stopwatch droplet train car move by sound effect maybe a finger snap sound effect mixed into to that acoustic envelope effect otherwise you are not grounded when maybe unknowingly watching it all move between worlds.
Quote:There are other hints if you don't catch the sound effect' you can notice the home is different, Jimmi Simpson as Ryan is fatter? or Jennifer Connelly dresses more seductive as the other Daniela or you have a more Housewife Soccer-mom look or one Joel Edgerton character Jason is unshaven and maybe has a cut and a scar. Jason-1 is adaptable and creative doing the bait and switch to get into 'technically his own house'. The Abortion angle adds a lot of drama and what if, is he losing his mind she asks. Is one of them a Bad 'Immoral' Jason, the spooky mask? Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde? There are hints that Jason-1 is sensitive type while new-Jason that jumped into Jason's bed, arriving at original Earth 1 is a bit more sociopath cold psychotic? proof he's really different are the thickened skin calluses from the Wedding Ring. So you have Abortionist Painter Artist Daniela and the other Soccer-mom Daniela?
Quote:it has weird drama adding new life to an old romance a lot of movies do it, Casablanca, Great Gatsby, re-finding the Erotic and Romance, even slashers like 'Scream' but making husband replaced by psycho Earth-2 version is another level of weird and strange, the Falling-in-Love but psycho man from Earth-2 Falls Out of Love goes Abortion-man or was only thinking of himself but then he goes to Earth-1 and finds good sex again.
Quote:Finally it starts to explain itself super position and multiple realities of Quantum Physics. Bad Jason from Earth-2 finds an unfinished Big Box in an old dirty warehoose, fix it and step inside big multi dimension mutliverse teleport thing happens? the Box the Cube important plot element, like a Borg ship or that Rock jihadi islamics walk around. they are about to have sex but then noise interrupts, phone and bad guys coming...ends with gore and shocker.
Quote:I haven't really noticed the other merc military guy he has a kind of LeBron or Malcolm-Jamal Warner Theo Huxtable look about his features. Marquita Brooks plays a murderous violent solider merc imbecile with a gun 'Dawn Lawrence'. What is the role, the Orc, the Beast, the Demon you see in other movies and shows? Alice Braga playing Amanda even though the role is small it is adding a lot of presence to the show.
Quote:Can you see it coming, predictions, foreshadowing. How will it go....So Amanda from Earth-2 will now help Jason from Earth-1? free him so he can fix the box? and bring back Jason-2?? the organization...working for something, the military, a world government? evil nazi scientists or afraid the public will learn of Cern Mandela-effect 'Quantum Jumps' or the public is forbidden to learn of alt reality? so they will now hunt Amanda just as she frees Jason-1...but it gets confused as they also focus on Jason-2 or they learn or Amanda learns that Jason-1 is not Jason-2? A bloody shocking ending might give it another ep 3
Quote:Those tropish motivations as you mentioned? Screen writing notes https://scriptmag.com/features/script-notes-major-character-types-love-interest Quote:'THE LOVE INTEREST'
Quote:They could have added more colors to one of the worlds, both worlds seem very gray, black, brown, dark blue, greyish everything faded with dark filters, one of the reason I like some of the Asian shows and movies is the colors are vibrant, jumping out of the movie screen and tv while eeverything Hollywood has that dull Napoleon look.
Quote:I've seen other movies and shows in this style or at least trailers, 'Otherworld' is very dated and a family show, novels, movies and comicbooks can do the parallel universe thing well, Dredd is an interesting British take on the cartoon scifi comic world but also incredibly cheesy at times, is Counterpart worth watching?....maybe I watched one season. 'Charlie Jade' might be a better show than both but if you don't like Cyberpunk you might not enjoy Charlie Jade. The tv show Charlie Jade is very Blade Runner-ish.
Monday, May 20, 2024 7:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: ok watched ep 3, it was excellent, lots of new characters introduced if we classify 1-2 as 'The Pilot' takes the show in a new direction. The female henchman or henchwoman is basically just a monster. but new concepts and plot elements taking it in another direction and a Female Cop detective shows up trying to sniff things out and had a few twists I did not expect. Joel Edgerton is a good actor, and very skilled playing as good guy Jason-1 or as narcissism Jason-2 playing a role of an imposter trying to fit into another person's shoes it hints at the modern world, maybe even kind of a warning about all the stuff you put out there on the Instagrams, Snapchats, Facebooks poor Ryan can't get a break but he's a lot more financially successful in Earth-1 Without doubt going down that stolen memory stolen identity route. I thought he should have kicked the Female-Monster in the face, she was trying to put a gun into the room thought he should have kicked her teeth out, maybe the writers film makers wanted to make that scene shocking but I thought it was hilarious she lost her hand, pity she's still alive and I will be forced to watch more of her didnt expect the ending with a super box tunnel not sure if I'll watch more but its an entertaining show
Wednesday, May 22, 2024 8:00 AM
Thursday, May 23, 2024 12:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: The 'Capgras Syndrome' the Deep Fake or Body Snatcher plot or drug that renders him unconscious for the Quantum Jump Mirror Universe might be an important plot point, Dissociative Body Double paranoia identity...or Psycho thing I kind of hinted it might feel like it could go that way. There was also maybe a trailer for a Scottish an Irish a Welsh movie? 'Hole in the Ground' imposter I never seen the film but it was maybe no scifi, more super natural horror, maybe an old actor from Braveheart was in it? I might go back to this show, ep 2 put me off but I thought ep 3 was excellent as I said. If you class ep1-2 as a 'pilot' or join the two as a tele-movie it would lift the second part and make it stronger. I watched the trailer for the series and you're right it really spoils a lot of stuff about to happen and the show has a few twists and turns yet it seems to go in directions I was not expecting.
Friday, May 24, 2024 1:15 AM
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