Best Science Fiction movie of all time! by chrisisall

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Best Science Fiction movie of all time!

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Monday, July 14, 2008 08:48
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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:22 AM

Okay peeps, none of this "Well I can't choose, so here's my top ten" nonsense.
Pick YOUR subjective personal favourite, and your OBJECTIVE choice for the all time best. That's TWO.
Anyone that goes and makes lists, you will be waterboarded (politely).

Personal Favourite: Serenity, because it makes the statement that evil is merely distorted, dysfunctional, self-serving and/or damaged perception. And that loss of direction & purpose can always be regained.

Objective Best: Planet Of The Apes, because it throws light on & lampoons bigotry, religious zealotry, and the idea that mankind is the be-all end-all of the universe's plans (plus it has the 'damn dirty ape' line

).

Now yours please?

SF Zealot Chrisisall

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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:35 AM

CHRISISALL

I knew this would be hard....

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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:47 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Yeah it's hard 'cause you're asking me to think! I'm at work, so I don't have my movies in front of me...but off the top of my head I'd say :

Best Movie ( Objective ): Forbidden Planet - because it was a rare big-budget sci-fic movie in the 50's. It had a great cast and a great story, with very "heady" themes. The effects were way ahead of its' time.

Best Movie ( Subjective ): The Time Machine - the 1960 original. I love it because the movie has immense charm and warmth. It also has a message, mainly anti-war, but in the end it is ultimately about the triumph of the human spirit.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:53 AM

MSB

hmm best movie (subjective) Serenity because we worked so hard to get it and waited so long for it and because it was like visiting a cherished friend you hadn't seen in a while.

best movie (objective) Star Wars...come on it changed EVERYTHING

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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:06 AM

RALLEM

Here is my list of top ten...

Objective would be Silent Running because it deals with being alone

Subjective would be John Carpenter's Darkstar for the same reason above and it's damn funny.

Was that ten? I could never count very well.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:31 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Best (Subjective) would be SERENITY for many of the reasons already stated but most importantly for me it was because of the poetic undertow that humans are flawed by design... Leave us be.

Best (Objective) The Day The Earth Stood Still for pointing out the very dangerous course of action us 'earthlings' were/are taking.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:11 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

Objectively and subjectively, for me it is still 2001: A Space Odyssey.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:18 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Subjectively, Galaxy Quest.

Objectively, have to think about it more, but it's down to Star Wars and Blade Runner.

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:40 AM

IMNOTHERE

Quote:
Originally posted by ecgordon:
Objectively and subjectively, for me it is still 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Seconded - at least objectively:

1. Its an iconic and influential bit of cinema even outside the SF genre.

2. Its one of the few examples of a respected film-maker and a respected (hard) SF author properly collaborating.

3. Best. Score. Ever.

4. Best cinematic cut (from the ape hurling the bone in the air to the satellite). Ever.

Subjectively, why even try to compare a cereberal, slow-moving movie like 2001 with a swashbuckling crowd-pleaser like Star Wars?

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:54 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by ImNotHere:

Subjectively, why even try to compare a cereberal, slow-moving movie like 2001 with a swashbuckling crowd-pleaser like Star Wars?

...'cause they're both excellence in the medium....?

Duhisall

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:10 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Subjective: 2001: A Space Odyssey It's just far and away the trend-setter for everything that followed.

Objective: 2001: A Space Odyssey Star Wars might have "changed everything", but 2001 changed it first, and gave every sci-fi movie that followed the "real look of space". And it's the ONLY one that ever got the "science" part of "science fiction" right. No explosions with loud booms, no space ships banking like jet fighters, etc. Just man and his science coming face to face with... God, aliens, destiny, the universe, his past... with EVERYTHING we've ever wanted the answers to...

Mike

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:13 AM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by rallem:

Objective would be Silent Running because it deals with being alone

Well, that and it was one of the earliest stabs at environmentalism.

For those who've never seen it, track down a copy. It is a simply FANTASTIC movie. If you don't cry at times (and because of the 'droids), you're not human.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:16 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Subjectively, the original Star Wars .

Objectively, 2001.
Much as I love Firefly, the BDM ain't the tops. Now, if it could be Serenity: the Big Damn ( original) Pilot, maybe.

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:24 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by rallem:

Objective would be Silent Running because it deals with being alone

Well, that and it was one of the earliest stabs at environmentalism.

For those who've never seen it, track down a copy. It is a simply FANTASTIC movie. If you don't cry at times (and because of the 'droids), you're not human.

I have it on DVD- beautiful film. I don't watch it often, but when I do it has great impact.

Old school Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:25 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

Much as I love Firefly, the BDM ain't the tops.

Are you a lion?

isall

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:41 AM

MSB

Hey what about the worst Sci Fi ever???

I'd like to nominate Laser Mission... it's truly horrifying

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:47 PM

LWAVES

Subjectively is an easy one. It would be Close Encounters Of The Third Kind.
Top notch FX. Great humour. Spielberg on top form. Fantastic and believable cast. Aliens that aren't bad guys.
A film I can watch time and time again without getting bored.
Before the LOTR trilogy this was my fave film of anything. But LOTR is fantasy so doesn't count here.

Objectively is a tougher one, but it is 2001.
In an non-list making way I thought about Star Wars, I considered Blade Runner and debated Planet Of The Apes. But in the end I would have to go with 2001.
It did change things first, before Star Wars. It was light years ahead of it's time in so many ways and had that healthy dose of realism that most scifi lacks. Plus it had HAL, who would have believed that you could ever feel genuine emotion for a killer computer.

"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."
"Daisy, daisy, give me your an..swer....true."

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:04 PM

RALLEM

Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Subjectively, Galaxy Quest.

Objectively, have to think about it more, but it's down to Star Wars and Blade Runner.

I loved Galaxy Quest and I had the good fortune of renting the movie "Trekies," with it and my friends and I watched it before Galaxy Quest which made the later movie even funnier.

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:53 PM

TRAVELER

This will very subjective.

Metropolis. The plot is very real. Look at us and see how we are and have been a class oriented society. I does not matter what form of government or organization are in existance, it has class distinctions. This movie puts the story right in your face with no wasted scenes. This film will be relevant as long and the human race exists.

The characters and the cinematography are some of the best you will find. From the exotic gardens of the powerful to the drab factories of the masses, you are pulled in by the way the scenes are set.

The special effects are excellent, even by todays standards. It is hard to even discuss the special effects since they are merely the tools used to produce this excellent film.

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:04 PM

REGINAROADIE

Objectively, I will also say 2001: A Space Odyssey because of all the reasons stated as well as it's rorshach like quality. Kubrick's films are great since you can see any of his movies 100 times and get 100 different POV's on what it's about. It can be interpreted infinitely, thus never losing it's relevance.

Subjectively, one sci-fi flick I love even MORE than the BDM is a Canadian film called LAST NIGHT. If you want a purely character driven sci-fi film, this is it even moreso than FIREFLY/SERENITY. It follows a bunch of people in Toronto during the last six hours of humanity. The world is going to end and there's nothing anyone can do about it. All I'm going to say is that it negates every single end of the world cliche, makes you wonder what exactly you would do if you knew the end of the world was coming and has one of the most beautiful endings for a film I've ever seen.

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Loudon Wainwright III - "Strange Weirdos" off the "Knocked Up" soundtrack
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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:27 PM

QUIETUDE

Subjective: The Last Star Fighter - I saw it when I was a kid and it just made the whole sci-fi universe feel just that bit closer, and its a very entertaining movie.

Objective: Starship Troopers - Yep, I am not really worried about the whole 'what's the deep message of this movie' thing. The only good bug is a dead bug!

And maybe my favourite movie of all time if they ever get round to making it would be 'Ender's Game'. Strange it would be another movie about killing bugs from space. Would you like to know more?

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:32 PM

MOOSE

Quote:
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Subjectively, the original Star Wars .

Objectively, 2001.

Those are my choices also.

Quote:
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Subjectively, one sci-fi flick I love even MORE than the BDM is a Canadian film called LAST NIGHT.

That sounds interesting.

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:50 PM

REGINAROADIE

When you see the film, get back to me on it. I really can't think of any sci-fi movie that is so stripped down to it's bare minimum that the only sci-fi trapping is the fact that the movie goes from 6 to midnight, but the sun is still shining bright.

Even though FIREFLY/SERENITY was one of the first steps towards a more stripped down, character driven sci-fi, there's still a fair bit of spectacle in terms of gunfights, spaceship battles, Reavers, etc. With LAST NIGHT, which precedes FIREFLY by four years and only cost 2 million to make, all of that is completely thrown out. It was originally supposed to be a film about the upcoming millennium, but Don McKellar, the writer, director and star of the film and one of the coolest guys I've ever met, knew it would have a short life span, so he changed it from people dealing with the end of the century to people dealing with the end of the world. And there are no heroics or larger than life characters. It's just normal people facing oblivion and trying to make the last six hours of their lives have some meaning.

And while it doesn't pussy out and actually deliver Armageddon (not the movie, the real deal), it's one of the most beautiful things you've ever seen.

We Canucks might not have much money, but we can make damn good genre movies.

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Loudon Wainwright III - "Strange Weirdos" off the "Knocked Up" soundtrack

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:42 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

Much as I love Firefly, the BDM ain't the tops.
Are you a lion?

Sadly, no, I'm out of stock in the "Mighty Roar" Department.
And, brother, I ain't lyin', either...

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:09 PM

SHINYGOODGUY

This is not going to be easy...but, here it goes:

Objectively first('cause my mind is racing as to that answer): Of course, 2001: A Space Oddessey, the mother of all modern sci-fi flicks. People talk about Spielberg, Lucas and the like but their cinematic father was Kubrick. In every way his mastery came across in the finished product we limitedly call "a movie," - cinematography, music, sound (and no sound), tone, theme - well, you know. I love movies that make you think and have you on the edge of your seat trying to figure out, along with our heroes, just what is going on (it is one of the things I love about FF).

I saw the space epic that started it all in the theatre when I was a kid and was completely blown away - the look, the feel, the sound and music and the magical storytelling by Kubrick. It should be required viewing by all sci-fi geeks just so they know where it all began.

Now for subjective, hoooboy, this is a tuffy. The original Star Wars. Just remembered, as I still had the memory of 2001: A SO on my mind, the feeling I had going in and then coming out of the theatre when I first saw SW. Both movies had buzz, but it was nothing compared to the actual experience. I watched peoples faces while waiting on line to go in and see the movie, the anticipation could be felt, palpably. People spontaneously cheered at the end and, upon exiting the theatre, got right back onto the ticket buyer's line to see it again immediately. It will not win any Academy awards (except of course for Special FX) but it took what Kubrick had started and gave us a whole new story in space by repacking the old stories of Flash Gordon and Commander Cody. Good Times!

Special Mention: The Day the Earth Stood Still and Forbidden Planet.

Blast from the Past: The Next Voice You Hear (1950), not sci-fi but a real good story along the lines of Last Night movie from Canada. Its a story of how common folk react to hearing God's voice on the radio. BTW the Last Night sounds like a good movie - I'm going to look for it.

"I'm a thinking, my head hurts"

Yosemite Sam

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:21 PM

SHINYGOODGUY

Hey Chrisisall,

Absolutely a great thread!

I almost forgot to give you props for putting us on the spot and making people think carefully about their choices.

BTW the BDM is among my favs, but I went for the classic answer. I have others but thats for a different thread. The only pet peeve about the BDM for me was the overall tone of the movie, it was somewhat different than that of the TV series.

Well, I have a few other things I was not happy about, but again, thats for another thread.

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Okay peeps, none of this "Well I can't choose, so here's my top ten" nonsense.
Pick YOUR subjective personal favourite, and your OBJECTIVE choice for the all time best. That's TWO.
Anyone that goes and makes lists, you will be waterboarded (politely).

Personal Favourite: Serenity, because it makes the statement that evil is merely distorted, dysfunctional, self-serving and/or damaged perception. And that loss of direction & purpose can always be regained.

Objective Best: Planet Of The Apes, because it throws light on & lampoons bigotry, religious zealotry, and the idea that mankind is the be-all end-all of the universe's plans (plus it has the 'damn dirty ape' line).

Now yours please?

SF Zealot Chrisisall

"She doesn't look like much, but she'll fool ya"

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Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:11 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
BTW the Last Night sounds like a good movie - I'm going to look for it.

http://www.amazon.com/Last-Night-Jessica-Booker/dp/B0000A1HRG
Imma get it too. Too bad it's only in full screen, but we takes what we gets.

New discoveriesisall

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Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:10 PM

ELVISCHRIST

ShinyGoodGuy:

Me too - I saw 2001 in the theatre when it first came out, and I was 6 years old. "Blown away" would be an understatement.

And like you, I felt - changed - after seeing the first Star Wars movie in the theatre.

ChrisIsAll: Where'd you find a DVD copy of Silent Running? I haven't seen it in years and years - since I first saw it in the theatre, in fact.

Blade Runner is definitely on my list. It makes you think about what makes us, US, and what it means to be "human".

For just one, though, I have to go with 2001. It opened my eyes and my mind. And like Shiny said, you get something different out of it every time you see it. Universal HD channel shows it in high-definition, and it's astounding.

EC

Takin' Care of Business, Baby!

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Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:10 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by ElvisChrist:

ChrisIsAll: Where'd you find a DVD copy of Silent Running? I haven't seen it in years and years -
EC

http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Running-Bruce-Dern/dp/B000063UR1
It's a nice transfer.

Hueyisall

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Saturday, July 5, 2008 5:45 AM

OZZYSUN

I was intrigued by the few posts of the movie Last Night, so much so that I almost bought it, till I turned on HBO and there it was!!
It was a good movie..and the ending was well done. They never do say what was going to cause everyone on Earth to die, but I would have to say at the end its fairly obvious.

Good movie watch it if you can.

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Saturday, July 5, 2008 10:00 AM

MIIKE

my favourite has gotta be stalker a russian film from 1979 its a classic in how to create tension without much going on .some people find it very boring but id use the phrase mesmerizeing to explain it anyone not checked it out should its based on a book by the sturgatsky bros called road side picnic. id advise everyone to read the book then check the film its excellent

i may be some time

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Saturday, July 5, 2008 10:10 AM

WYTCHCROFT

Quote:
Originally posted by miike:
my favourite has gotta be stalker a russian film from 1979 its a classic

god i LOVE stalker!:)

and solaris!:)

(also a very fine book!)

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 8:09 AM

MIIKE

yeah stalker is real cool i love the book but ive not seen solaris yet ive been trying to avoid the clooney version so as not to taint my view of the original

im just going out,i may be some time

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 8:15 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by miike:
ive been trying to avoid the clooney version so as not to taint my view of the original

The Cloony version is golden.

IMOisall

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 8:16 AM

MIIKE

wtf the clooney version is good?

im just going out,i may be some time

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 8:27 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by miike:
wtf the clooney version is good?

Yeah, just slightly more focused on character than science as compared with the original.

Cisall

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 8:31 AM

MIIKE

ill check it out after i get the original as i loved tarvovskys direction of stalker a lot of slow lingering shots as opposed to modern fast cutting designed to keep up the attention adhd sufferers .god i need a spellcheck

im just going out,i may be some time

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 8:40 AM

CHRISISALL

Cloony's version was a flop because of how slow & measured the pace was.

Chrisisall

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 8:45 AM

MIIKE

yeah thats hollywood all will smith and explosions seems like i havent liked a majour studio film for a long time my hopes are high for the watchmen though zak snyders last 2 films have been ok

im just going out,i may be some time

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 9:01 AM

IGOR

Since I am no movie critic, both my selections are subjective. The two movies I have watched the most times and enjoyed the most, are Bladerunner and Serenity. I see that there is a lot of support for 2001 and deservedly so. 2001 was epic and ground braking. I am a little surprised at the lack support for Serenity. Serenity had great characters, great dialog, and great plot. The idea that a totalitarian government would add a drug to the air or water system to make the people more compliant and easier to control, is chilling plausible.

good bible

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 9:06 AM

MIIKE

i didnt know we could vote serenity i thought this was other sci fi which explains my choise i mean serenity is my favourite sci fi film

im just going out,i may be some time

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 9:07 AM

WYTCHCROFT

well - there are a few serenity fans here...
(chuckles)
but how dull would that be?

fave movie: serenity
fave movie: serenity
fave movie: serenity
fave movie: serenity

cue joss "Gee, you guys..."

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 11:26 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

Serenity is just my third favorite SF film, after 2001 and Blade Runner.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 11:34 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Serenity notwithstanding - I have to say The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across The Eigth Dimension.

Perfect Tommy "Why me?"
Buckaroo Banzai "because you're perfect"
Perfect Tommy "You have a point there"

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Sunday, July 6, 2008 7:28 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

I can understand not everybody liked Galaxy Quest, but nobody mentions Highlander? Is that considered fantasy? Road Warrior?

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Tuesday, July 8, 2008 3:53 PM

IGOR

Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I can understand not everybody liked Galaxy Quest, but nobody mentions Highlander? Is that considered fantasy? Road Warrior?

I completely forgot about Road Warrior, I really loved that movie. It was a classic in my book.

good bible

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Tuesday, July 8, 2008 4:36 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Personal Fav: Battle Beyond the Stars, it's cheese, but it's really awesome cheese, Nestor the Hive Mind and the Kelvin were fairly original concepts at the time, and the tactical ambush on Sadors flagship upon it's return stands out even BETTER than Khan's bitchslapping of the defenseless USS Enterprise.

Besides, it's based on Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven, and hard to go wrong with a script like that.

Objective Best: Gotta give the nod here to Gattaca.

Scary real, especially in THIS day and age.
Look it up yourself, you'll see.

-Frem

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Tuesday, July 8, 2008 6:01 PM

REGINAROADIE

Glad someone here took the initiative and searched for the movie (if you want to watch it for free, I know at mininova.org, you can download it. You have to have BitTorrents, but that's just a quick download).

Even though it's kind of obvious what the cause of the end of the world is, I love the fact that the movie treats it like a superfluous bit of information that's beside the point. The real point is how the people deal with knowing that the end is really coming and what they do with those last hours of their lives.

And I think the ending is more than well done. I think it's one of the most beautiful endings I've ever seen.

Now, onto GALAXY QUEST.

I always thought that GALAXY QUEST was an oddball movie in the sense that it not exactly real sci-fi. Even though it has a sci-fi look and feel and setting, I always thought that it was more of an fx comedy than real science fiction. Like GHOSTBUSTERS or MEN IN BLACK. Barry Sonnenfeld himself said that he's describe MiB as a comedic remake of THE FRENCH CONNECTION with aliens in it. In that sense, I always saw GALAXY QUEST as more of an incredibly well made fish out of water/sci-fi and fandom parody. And while there are some cool sci-fi ish moments, like when the doors open and Jason sees that's it's all for real (in the theaters there was a third aspect ratio change that just makes the reveal even more incredible) or when Alexander/Dr. Lazarus says the "By Grapthar's hammer" line with actual meaning, I think laughs are it's biggest priority rather than commenting about the human condition.

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"And it starts with a sentence that might last a lifetime, or it all might just go down in flames. If I let you know me, then why would you want me? Each day I don't is a shame. Each day I don't is a great shame."

Loudon Wainwright III - "Strange Weirdos" off the "Knocked Up" soundtrack

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Tuesday, July 8, 2008 6:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Although Galaxy Quest certainly rides the humor wave, and pokes at fandom, the premise that it uses to tell the story is likely the most believeable in SciFi - and it is not set in the future.
The story rides piggybakc on the work/discovery/technology of other species, negating the need for humans to leap forward or jump into technology applications which are not yet real.
I found the suspension of disbelief quite easy, and there was humor, real tension, real adventure, and real interplay of characters.
Sam Rockwell, in theaters in 3 films simultaeously (remember him in Green Mile), wonderful job by Sigourney Weaver, as well as Alan Richman, Tony Shaloub, and even Tim Allen doing better than I expected.

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Tuesday, July 8, 2008 7:20 PM

SHINYGOODGUY

Buckaroo Banzai...(lol)...great, I totally forgot about that film and I haven't seen it in a dog's life.

"I hope she does the soup thing..."

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