Burn Notice season 2 begins tonight (July 10)! by ThereUR

whee! Since my friends don't have USA, they didn't see BN S1 when it came out, so now I have people to talk about it with as it's airing ^_^

--Faith

"I can't get it right...get it right...since I met you."

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:47 PM

NCBROWNCOAT

BN S1 is out on DVD. It should be on Netflix too.

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:53 PM

You can see the episodes on the website as well. I watched the pilot last night.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:07 PM

NCBROWNCOAT

I love the whole cast but especially Bruce Campbell and Sharon Gless. They are both so good and funny in an "unintentional" way.

One BC bit that comes to mind from last season is when BC and Gabrielle Anwar are paying cops...they state their names as "Detectives Cagney and Lacey".

(For those youngsters around here, Sharon Gless and Tyne Daly starred in "Cagney and Lacey". The first and highest rated female lead real cop show in the 1980's)

And Sharon Gless"s turn as the hypocondriac Mom is just understated enough not to be whiny. But she is...

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:55 PM

THEREUR

Quote:
Originally posted by FaithLovesPurple:
whee! Since my friends don't have USA, they didn't see BN S1 when it came out, so now I have people to talk about it with as it's airing ^_^

Is it that latent monkey gene that makes us want to communally share a fun experience? Wait...not in a Swingtown way

Five minutes to airtime

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:03 PM

SINGATE

Quote:
Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:
And Sharon Gless"s turn as the hypocondriac Mom is just understated enough not to be whiny. But she is...

She had a great funny moment in tonight's premiere. After Michael explains why he could not call or visit when he was an active spy she replies, "you couldn't write?". It's such a perfect mom thing to say, made even more funny because it seemed they were about to share a touching moment of honesty.

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Friday, July 11, 2008 6:03 AM

I so knew that girl was her--she had the same voice! Poor Michael. I hope the whole season isn't just Clare getting one step ahead of him because that'll get old. But I'm pretty sure Michael'll keep putting the pieces together. Although, since she's (or "they" are giving him these jobs, wouldn't they realize that he's trying to get info. on them through the jobs? They're clearly not stupid. Maybe they're letting him find what they want him to find?

Anywho, I didn't like Michael's accent at all, seemed way too fake to me.

Fi and Michael's "talk" :( "You don't mess an asset's scent when she walks out of a room". And his mother...wow. It reminds me of MY mom and how, regardless of what the conversation is about, she'll steer it back into a subject she loves to criticize me about.

--Faith

"I can't get it right...get it right...since I met you."

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Friday, July 11, 2008 7:50 AM

Oh good! I'm glad we are discussing this here, because I am head over heals about this show!
I've watched it all through renting the DVDs...
and I'm still kicking myself for not noticing that they reran the entire first season in a marathon yesterday!!!
(how could I be so stupid?!?!)
but I have now ordered the first season DVD set, so I'll hope to get that pretty soon....

I loved the first episode of the 2nd season,
it was very funny to have Michael back w/Fiona (I love Fiona!), Sam, and his Mom...
but now the situation is a little different, and actually a little more dire... I'm sure he'll learn more and more about this puppet master

This is SO much fun!

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816
DON'T MISS DR.HORRIBLE! Nathan Fillion sings!!!!!

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Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:42 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I too am a huge fan of the Burn Notice.

Mmmmm... Fiona!

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:33 AM

Ha ha! Yeah, Fiona's awesome.

But Michael...mmm. I'll be in my bunk

He's got the most fabulous smile

--Faith

"I can't get it right...get it right...since I met you."

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Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:34 AM

THEREUR

I had a lot of fun watching the first ep of season 2. I loved the two brief scenes with Michael and his Mom (rich and layered without overdoing it). The last scene with Fiona was a piece of lovely melancholy with a touch of bittersweet humor.
It was great to see Sam, too--brief but great scenes--funny too. Loved the machinations of getting into the target's building and the logistics of going through the floor, and the voiceovers on how spooks kill time during interminable waits and on the relative merits of various kinds of bullets for different applications (the one for trashing the server vs. the one he uses for blasting the window ) :)

I guess my quibble is I didn't see enough wheels turning and intensity about the meta-story taking up from where we left off last season. And the light cat and mouse act at the end with Claire doesn't quite jibe with the utter ruthlessness of some of the tactics we've seen.

Still, loving it, and I wants me some more :)

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Monday, July 14, 2008 7:49 AM

LETOV

I loved the episode although I was dissapointed in some ways. It really bothered me that after all the lead up, the driving off to be loaded up in a truck destined for goodness knows where and all the goodbyes, he's back in two days with nothing having changed.

That for me was a major letdown. As my wife pointed out, it is kind of in keeping with the show though since thinking he was getting further than he actually was has been a theme throughout.

I'm surprised nobody's commented about this but it was kinda neat seeing Tricia Helfer on this. Honestly, if I hadn't read the name and seen a video interview I wouldn't have recognized her from BSG.

- Leto_V

"Well, my days of not taking you
seriously are certainly coming to
a middle." - Mal

"What the hell is an aluminum falcon?!?" - Palpatine - Robot Chicken

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Monday, July 14, 2008 2:38 PM

Oh I had heard some reviewers who were also really bothered by this, but I felt it was pretty clever...
from my POV it is just another way these people (the govt? or some one connected w/the government?) are jerking him around!

Nothing changes, except now they expect him to dance to their tune : risk his life for them without pay or any hope of getting the burn notice lifted!

Now he has a voice and a face to search for....
so it is more personal and more intense...
while we still get to enjoy Sam, Fiona, and Michael's Mom!
(all good in my opinion)

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816
DON'T MISS DR.HORRIBLE! Nathan Fillion sings!!!!!

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Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:48 AM

Loved the ep- just watched it on the official site..what a break!! I have no cable...

Burned Chrisisall

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Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:25 AM

how can you live without cable?

of course I used to do that during the Summer (cancel cable for a few months) but ever since they started having new shows like Monk, Eureka, The Closer, etc...
I had to keep it all year round.

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816
DON'T MISS DR.HORRIBLE! Nathan Fillion sings!!!!!

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Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by embers:
how can you live without cable?

'Cause here it's $65/month.

Tricia is quite an addition to the show IMO- she does manipulative SO well.

No cash, no credit Chrisisall

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:29 AM

Second ep of the new season did NOT disappoint! This show is golden- not a bad one in the bunch!!!
The Mike & his Mom thing is even more interesting than ever. For a series whose strengths are the characters & the humour, the agent-y twists & turns are excellent.

Solid fan Chrisisall

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:51 AM

The "Mike and his Mom thing" is definately great. The llok on his face last season when she said "You left Us". Priceless.

and that nice MSB is hog tying him.......I mean GIFT Wrapping him for me as I type!

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:13 PM

don't you just LOVE the relationships?

His relationship w/his Mom, so much past baggage...
so much pain on his part and denial on his Mom's part...
very few shows even think of going there (how childhood abuse nurtures a competent spy!) - it is funny and real...

Oh man, and I REALLY love the relationship w/Fiona! She is practically insane w/the love of violence thing... while he is pretty much a paranoid loner with a lot of charm, it makes for a lot of heat in their relationship but it makes perfect sense that neither one of them will ever make each other (or anyone else) happy...

in the commentary the creator said that in other shows (like Moonlighting and X-files) they worried about having the leads hook up, and they were right: it sucked the sexual tension out of the relationship. But he said "I know people like that, they sleep together all the time, and it never helps anything... it just makes things worse" ! LOL

I really love this show!

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816
DON'T MISS DR.HORRIBLE! Nathan Fillion sings!!!!!

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:30 PM

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Originally posted by embers:
don't you just LOVE the relationships?

Yes, very...Joss-like, eh?

Quote:

very few shows even think of going there (how childhood abuse nurtures a competent spy!) - it is funny and real...

I wonder how popular the show is with Agency types...

Quote:

in the commentary the creator said that in other shows (like Moonlighting and X-files) they worried about having the leads hook up

They're handling it exquisitely IMO. It's very fresh.
I can't believe they're making this show work on such a limited budget; it must make the producers work hard to be creative (hint, George Lucas

).

CIA

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:49 PM

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Originally posted by embers:

so much pain on his part

That's an interesting thing to note- do YOU see a breakdown (momentary, of course) in his future, you know, like spontaneously crying into his Mom's shoulder after a particularly harrowing rescue of her or something?
He seems to have forced a lot into a box, emotionally speaking...

Dr. Chrisisall

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:57 PM

oh yeah, I see one.
Its gonna be goooooood.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:02 PM

no, I don't see any easy answers or break throughs...
he was raised to be a paranoid loner, and he has a job that reinforces that that is all that works...
it is why he can't connect w/Fiona (well... and also she is violent psychotic and kinda unstable...)
I don't think Michael will ever let down his barriers...
and I don't think his Mom will ever really get past her 'denial' (where she remembers her children's abuse as though it was spending quality time with their Dad!)

I'm pretty much thinking that this show isn't about happy endings.

But we shall see!

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816
DON'T MISS DR.HORRIBLE! Nathan Fillion sings!!!!!

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:18 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
oh yeah, I see one.
Its gonna be goooooood.

It'll likely make ME cry, if it happens.

Teary Chrisisall

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:

I'm pretty much thinking that this show isn't about happy endings.

If they kill Fi, I'll hate the show forever!!

But I don't see this series taking the Joss route that way...it's somewhat lighter than that...I mean, when Sam took that beating and still cracked wise...c'mon, he would have been crying like a bitchy little girl in real life, WITH a broken jaw, most probably...I like the fine line between drama & comedy in it...for REAL spy TV I'll watch Smiley's stuff.

Tinker tailor soldier Chrisisall

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:27 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
oh yeah, I see one.
Its gonna be goooooood.

It'll likely make ME cry, if it happens.

Teary Chrisisall
]

me too. I bring the tissue

FMFhaskleenex

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:01 PM

just watched episode 103 again and I just want to say 'WHAT! WHAT IS IT? WHAT DO THEY WANT FROM MICHAEL!"

ok........i am better now

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:52 PM

SINGATE

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
do YOU see a breakdown (momentary, of course) in his future, you know, like spontaneously crying into his Mom's shoulder after a particularly harrowing rescue of her or something?

Michael is definitely wrapped a bit tight. If he does suffer a break I think it would be more interesting if he lost his cool and went all mad dog. He's so calm most of the time, even when committing violent acts, that it would be interesting to see him lash out, perhaps at one of his comrades. Imagine how Fiona or Sam would react to Michael taking a shot at one of them.

As far as happy endings go I get the feeling something bad is on the horizon. It would not surprise me if Michael's new employers make an example of someone close to him before season's end. The most likely candidate has to be his brother. I just can't see the writers messing with Fiona, Sam, or mom. There just aren't enough characters for them to pull a Joss.

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Friday, August 15, 2008 5:06 AM

CLJOHNSTON108

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
no, I don't see any easy answers or break throughs...
he was raised to be a paranoid loner, and he has a job that reinforces that that is all that works...
it is why he can't connect w/Fiona (well... and also she is violent psychotic and kinda unstable...)
I don't think Michael will ever let down his barriers...
and I don't think his Mom will ever really get past her 'denial' (where she remembers her children's abuse as though it was spending quality time with their Dad!)

I'm pretty much thinking that this show isn't about happy endings.

But we shall see!

Yeah, that one line of Michael's, after Madeline was telling him he should trust people, really stuck with me: "Where would I have learned to do that, Mom?"

(Since I'm one of those who haven't watched broadcast TV for about 10 years (just DVDs of shows I hear a lot about, like Firefly), I only just discovered Burn Notice last week on Hulu.
Instantly became my favorite, and I'm all caught up now.)

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Sunday, August 24, 2008 5:26 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

I've gotten a little bit impressed with the technical direction of the show. Recently, there's been some issues and plotlines surrounding a Russian sniper rifle, which I correctly identified from the "x-ray" that Michael took of it as a Dragunov SVD. Turns out that it is indeed a Dragunov. My feeling is it's significant because fewer than 100 of these were legally imported into the U.S., and there whereabouts are known to the ATF - so if you wanted one that wasn't traceable, you'd have to smuggle it in.

It is a very highly-regarded sniper rifle, with accuracy reported at within 1 minute of angle (MOA) at 1000 yards. It's also quite distinctive looking.

I'm currently saving up for its "little brother" - a Romanian clone version called alternatively the Romak III, FPK, PSL, or SSG97, that's still allowed to be imported to the U.S. The Romanian version uses a larger, beefed-up version of the AK47's action mechanism, where the Dragunov used a longer-stroke system and is supposed to be quite smoother to shoot.

I just found it interesting that they were pretty darned accurate about something which is pretty arcane to most viewers, and found it a happy coincidence that they mentioned something I've been researching for myself...

Mike

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Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:41 PM

CLJOHNSTON108

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
I've gotten a little bit impressed with the technical direction of the show. Recently, there's been some issues and plotlines surrounding a Russian sniper rifle, which I correctly identified from the "x-ray" that Michael took of it as a Dragunov SVD.

http://www.dragunov.net/

I've been really impressed with all the insider info in the voiceovers since the beginning, wishing they'd put it all in a How-to book, sorta like the "Worst Case Scenario" books.

Turns out, they're gonna be putting out a series of novelizations...

'Burn Notice': The Novel - Los Angeles Times
http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-ca-tie-ins24-2008aug24,0,1463
672.story

The first one came out August 5th...

Amazon.com: Burn Notice: The Fix (Obsidian): Tod Goldberg: Books
http://www.amazon.com/Burn-Notice-Obsidian-Tod-Goldberg/dp/0451225546

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Monday, August 25, 2008 1:40 AM

KWICKO

Yup, dragunov.net is what I refer to as "gun porn" - I have no reason being there, but I can't stop looking and drooling!

The voiceover "instructions" have impressed me, but I never really knew for the most part whether they were BS or not. And I'd love to see them in a handy-dandy little Worst-Case Scenario handbook.

Thanks for the heads-up on the novels. I may have to check 'em out.

Mike

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Monday, August 25, 2008 1:47 AM

KWICKO

One thing I really detest about the show - and pretty much ALL TV shows that use it - is the way they depict tailing and surveillance, having them follow about 20 feet behind the car they're trailing, and parking right out front of the building they're surveilling.

That one bugs me to no end, but only because they seem to get other details so right.

Then I tell myself that it's a FUN show, not a Frederick Forsyth book, and I can pretty much let it go...

:)

Mike

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Monday, August 25, 2008 2:15 AM

CLJOHNSTON108

Yeah, and there was that one episode with the kidnapping ring, where Sam's peeking in the window of the kidnapper's hideout in broad daylight... wearing a bright red shirt!

I'd always have to shake my head when watching magnum, p.i., as he was tailing somebody in his bright red Ferrari.

They made a joke out of it in the Starsky & Hutch movie, cuz they're taking pictures of the Vince Vaughn character from the trademark candy apple red Torino, and Vince Vaughn's looking right at 'em with a curious look!

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Monday, August 25, 2008 7:05 PM

Shit...I haven't been watching this for awhile. Watched the first one or three eps but then my interest waned, probably because I was only half-watching while doing other things. So, I'll probably watch it again from the beginning 'til the finale so I can really take it all in.

I saw the preview for that one ep where Michael's using an inhaler--that made me laugh so hard, that's brilliant. So, I can't wait 'til I get to that ep ^_^

--Faith

"I can't get it right...get it right...since I met you."

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:58 PM

SINGATE

Quote:
Originally posted by FaithLovesPurple:
I saw the preview for that one ep where Michael's using an inhaler--that made me laugh so hard, that's brilliant.

This was the most recent episode. He posed as a twitchy lab geek. One of the few times I can remember when Michael provided a major portion of the comic relief.

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:52 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Yes, the inhaler was a nice touch.

I also like the Old Spice guy.

I bet CIA recruitments are way up.

"If you have it you don't need it. If you need it, you don't have it. If you have it, you need more of it. If you have more of it, you don't need less of it. You need it to get it. And you certainly need it to get more of it. But if you don't already have any of it to begin with, you can't get any of it to get started, which means you really have no idea how to get it in the first place, do you? You can share it, sure, you can even stockpile it if you like. But you can't fake it. Wanting it, needing it, wishing for it. The point is, if you never had any of it, ever, people just seem to know."
-Bruce Cambell, Old Spice

Firefly Music Video: Tangerine dream - Confrontation, Thief soundtrack
www.megavideo.com/?v=JVT35GR8

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Friday, September 19, 2008 5:29 AM

All I gotta say is...I'm really glad they play Burn Notice marathons occasionally so I could catch up :)

So, who saw the season finale?

Man, I *hate* how they always do those stupid cliffhangers! The commercials kept saying that he'll finally find all the info. he needs, but that was such a lie.

And I knew it would be like that because when there was like 10 min. left, I knew they couldn't wrap it up in time so I was just waiting for it to get to the "arrg, I can't wait for next season!" thing. Well, they sure know how to make a person want to see the next season :p

--Faith

"I can't get it right...get it right...since I met you."

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Friday, September 19, 2008 6:48 PM

TWILIGHTSEEKER

I love, love, love this program and the first book is true to the series. I hope they can keep that up. I find the irreverance bringing me back every week.I find Micheal's attitude much more believable than many a more "serious" spy chacterizations. He is a disfuntional person (and aren't we all to some extent)who does his job with few illusions.....ie Sometimes we do the right thing for the wrong reason or the wrong thing for the right reason. But in the end he does what needs to be done.

gentle journey all,
twilight seeker

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Saturday, September 20, 2008 9:53 AM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

Quote:
Originally posted by FaithLovesPurple:
So, who saw the season finale?

Man, I *hate* how they always do those stupid cliffhangers! The commercials kept saying that he'll finally find all the info. he needs, but that was such a lie.

And I knew it would be like that because when there was like 10 min. left, I knew they couldn't wrap it up in time so I was just waiting for it to get to the "arrg, I can't wait for next season!" thing. Well, they sure know how to make a person want to see the next season :p

Actually, it was only the half-season finale. According to TV Guide,* USA Network likes to break up their shows so that they don't have to compete with the fall programs on the other, bigger networks.

It's a bummer we won't see what happens next until January, though.

* http://www.tvguide.com/ask-matt/burn-notice/080818-04

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