Bad season- every series has one.... by chrisisall

Lost - season 2
House - season 4 (even though the last two episodes were great)
MST3K - seasons 0-5.5 (just couldn't get into Joel)
Blackadder - season 1
'Allo 'Allo - season 4, and beyond

Firefly - season 1 (JUST KIDDING!!)

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Monday, August 4, 2008 11:35 AM

MSB

Yeah Seaquest had such a great season 1...and then

See now I like Joel and Mike...I had a much harder time getting past replacement Crow..I missed Trace terribly

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Monday, August 4, 2008 11:46 AM

It's weird, I hardly noticed Crow's new voice at first, only much later did I realize that it's different (I didn't grasp that Trace was gone for good, guess I thought he was still doing the voice so I didn't pay too much attention to it). I like both Crows, but I think I actually prefer Bill Corbett's angrier, more sarcastic Crow - it kinda reminds me of Bender from Futurama. Still, I missed Trace's Dr. Forrester.

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Monday, August 4, 2008 12:55 PM

Sliders final season absolutely blew.

Chrisisall

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Monday, August 4, 2008 1:15 PM

LOST-Season 2-3.5: Aside from the whole Desmond/Penny plotline, the entire second and first half of third season was just navel gazing through their asses. No dramatic momentum whatsoever. It was only when the characters and the show decided to move forward in actually getting off of the island, as opposed to sticking around to figure out it's metaphysical meaning, that it actually got me excited.

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA- Season 3: While the escape from New Caprica, the Eye of Jupiter and the big reveal at the end of the season was riveting stuff, for the most part I found season 3 to have a lot of filler episodes that had no impact on the overreaching plotline, and were just not that memorable.

SLIDERS- Season 3 onward. With Tracy Torme quitting the show after season 2 since he was tired of fighting with the network execs, leaving David Peckinpah in charge, the concept they had fell by the wayside, and it just became horrible, even before The Professor was killed off. Since there are so many re-makes of shitty 80's shows, I'm hoping that next decade, there'll be all the 90's remakes. And I hope SLIDERS gets the BATTLESTAR GALACTICA treatment.

BUFFY- Season 6 onward. With season 6, you can tell that they were starting to run on fumes.

24- Season 3 and 6. While season 3 had a lot of great stuff that happened later in the day, the majority of seaosn 3 just felt really off. And then with 6, my interest was beginning to wane. If you're losing interest in 24, of all things, you know that something's wrong. But here's hoping that Day 7 and its prequel can bring the show back to it's glory.

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Monday, August 4, 2008 1:31 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

The Shield - Season 6. It felt like mostly filler, little real meat to it.

The Gilmore Girls - Season 6. The show's creators had left, and it really, really showed. They were rehashing old plots with new characters, and it was hard to watch.

The West Wing - Season 6. For the same reason as Gilmore Girls - Aaron Sorkin was dumped after his pot arrest, and the show lost its snap. It didn't sizzle; it plodded. Sorkin was brought back for S7, and it picked up for the finish.

Angel - Not the whole season, but that whole going to Lorne's world thing just pretty much blew.

Dark Angel - Season 2 (and onward). It just didn't have its mojo anymore.

Veronica Mars - Season 3. It really felt like they were under the gun and about to be cancelled, so they started flailing around looking for ANYTHING that would grab viewers. And they failed.

Buffy - Season 6. I *liked* Glorificus, but I hated The Trio as ubervillains. They were just schlubs, and were lousy at being bad. I got annoyed with the potentials in Season 7, but the storyline at least got back to SLAYING, which was as it needed to be.

Heroes - Season 2. Besides being cut short by the writers' strike, S2 just didn't have me dying to watch.

Mike

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Monday, August 4, 2008 2:48 PM

CHARLIEBZ

Star Trek: TNG: the first two seasons were pretty bad

ST: Voyager: Was there a consistently good season at all?

Moonlighting: The last two seasons

Lost: season 2

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 4:44 AM

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Originally posted by reginaroadie:

BUFFY- Season 6 onward. With season 6, you can tell that they were starting to run on fumes.

Things were changing- no it wasn't the same show as it was in seasons 2 & 3- was it supposed to be?

Chosenisall

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 4:46 AM

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Originally posted by CharlieBZ:

ST: Voyager: Was there a consistently good season at all?

Ummm....no.
Inconsistency was a trademark of that series...season 4 & 5 had the most good eps, but no season was perfect.

7 of Chrisisall

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 12:17 PM

LWAVES

I'm holding off commenting on shows that are still running - the jury ain't done yet. And I can agree with some of the seasons listed above:

Dark Angel - Second season of course.
Angel - The trip to Pylea.
Blackadder - Season 1 (how a change in character can make such a difference).

But to add some new ones:

Miami Vice: Season 5. Some may say that it went before but the last was definitely the worst.

Due South: Final season. I actually liked the new Ray, but he wasn't the old Ray.

Northern Exposure: Final season. The town was the show but replacing Joel with weak characters just didn't work.

The Dead Zone: Season 5. The one that ruined it. Virtually no Nicole deBoer all season and some weak stories. They were given a second chance with season 6 and they should have wrapped up the story, but they got greedy. Now we'll never know.

Auf Wiedersehen Pet: Season 3 onwards. The magic had gone and with no Wayne so had the lads that started it all.

Airwolf: Season 3 wasn't brilliant but season 4 was just....words cannot describe it.

Babylon 5 Crusade: Okay techincally a spin off but still a major blotch in this universe. If not allowed then season 5 of the main series will do.

On another note what's MST3K. I figure it stands for something but what?

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 12:43 PM

ZEEK

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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
LOST-Season 2-3.5: Aside from the whole Desmond/Penny plotline, the entire second and first half of third season was just navel gazing through their asses. No dramatic momentum whatsoever. It was only when the characters and the show decided to move forward in actually getting off of the island, as opposed to sticking around to figure out it's metaphysical meaning, that it actually got me excited.

Agreed. So, many plot lines and episodes from season 2 through those first 6 of season 3 seem like they've been totally trashed now. Eko's last words "you're next" a season and a half later and "next" still hasn't happened. Come on.

Angel Season 4 - First half started out like it was building to something cool and then it went all to hell after Orpheus.

Buffy Season 4 - Pretty much the whole season was awful. Hush was decent but Riley and Tara still dragged it down with their awful characters.

Deep Space Nine Season 1 - Maybe I'm just crazy but I rewatched the first season recently and it was pretty awful. I remember the show being good but maybe I've lost my mind.

Voyager Season 3 on - I liked the first two seasons but after that it just kept getting worse and worse.

Alias Season 4 - I haven't even gotten through the whole thing it's turned me off so much. Season 3 had enough issues but this one is gross. I don't know if it recovers in the last season but I doubt I'll ever care enough to find out.

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 2:02 PM

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Northern Exposure: Final season. The town was the show but replacing Joel with weak characters just didn't work.

Absolutely.

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Airwolf: Season 3 wasn't brilliant but season 4 was just....words cannot describe it.

Actually, I pretty much wrote that series off after the brilliant first season- everything after that was a letdown for moi.

Stringfellow Chrisisall

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 3:10 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

So I decided to watch the pilot for Airwolf on netflix, sort of to while away the hours that I am in night job hell......anyway LOVE Jan-Michael Vincent but jeezus this music is cheesey!

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 3:23 PM

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On another note what's MST3K. I figure it stands for something but what?

Mystery Science Theater 3000. Often imitated, never duplicated. A true gem.

And I thought it jumped the shark when Joel left. :P

I've bought some of them on DVD. "Warriors of the Lost World" is miraculous. "Any fruit to declare?! ANY FRUIT TO DECLARE?!" and "We hated you in 'Paper Chase'!"

Mike

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 3:27 PM

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Babylon 5 Crusade: Okay techincally a spin off but still a major blotch in this universe. If not allowed then season 5 of the main series will do.

Okay, I confess... I haven't watched all of B5. I couldn't get through the first season, which I'm assured is the absolute worst. I refer to the Captain as "Captain Woodenhead" because of his *stellar* acting abiliy. ;) I understand he was replaced after S1, but I haven't been able to bring myself to watch.

Adding to the list:

Invasion - all of it. From the first terrible minute on.

Threshold - ditto.

Technically, they don't really count, because they didn't even get a full season to try to pull out of the nosedive.

The 4400 - I'm not sure when, but somewhere around S3-S4, I just kind of lost interest. A brilliant concept, but it seems to have gone off the rails a bit...

Mike

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 3:29 PM

Oh, and Angel - the whole Conner/Cordelia thing just really creeped me out. BUT - they pulled it out for S5 and absolutely nailed the series finale, I thought.

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 5:53 PM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE

Angel season 4 was the worst ever. I really disliked that whole Jasmine thing.

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 8:32 PM

OPPYH

With the exception of "Once More with Feeling", Buffy season 6 was absolute garbage. Good ol' Joss left that year(most of it) to bring us Firefly, and for that I guess we are all in his debt.
But season 6 did bring us these fine gems:

-Big bads consists of three nerds....whatever!

-Bad Willow=boring. Alyson Hannigan couldn't play an evil character to save her life. She's just too sweet!

-Doublemeat Palace.

-Spike, and Buffy. NO!

-Anya, and Xander's never ending soap opera.

I'll post again when I think of more reasons season 6 sucked so bad.

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 1:29 PM

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-Bad Willow=boring. Alyson Hannigan couldn't play an evil character to save her life. She's just too sweet!

Ah, but I disagree - I *loved* Evil Willow the alternate-reality vampire queen! That was the first Buffy episode I ever saw, and I just couldn't believe I was watching that same geeky girl from "American Pie" - only now she was evil, cool, and hot -all at the same time.

I loves me some Evil Willow.

Buffy and Spike? Yes. It had to happen. She loves a bad boy, and he can be the baddest...

But The Trio were certainly nothing compared with Glorificus or The Master.

Mike

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I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Friday, August 8, 2008 6:02 AM

Season six was great if only for the last ep where Spike fights for his soul...

Then seven was pure gold, IMO of course...

Potentially Chrisisall

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Friday, August 8, 2008 6:23 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Season six was great if only for the last ep where Spike fights for his soul...

Then seven was pure gold, IMO of course...

Potentially Chrisisall

Bingo. Right there with ya.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Friday, August 8, 2008 6:36 AM

GORRAMGROUPIE

OK, Threshold I liked, I think they didn't have enough time to establish it.

But,I have som to contibute, and it will probably show my age:

ER: after season 3, it just became horrible, no true drama, rehashing the same plots, same mega contrived emergencies.

Hunter: the season where they had the female lead raped. And then they did it AGAIN. That killed it for me.

Any home improvement show season 3+(Trading Spaces anyone?): after a couple of seasons they have to change how they do the show, cause it gets boring. And the original premise is what made the show in the first place.

Scooby Doo when they added Scrappy: annoying little punt dog!

'Who are you and how did you get in here?' 'I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.'
Police Squad

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Friday, August 8, 2008 9:36 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Hmm, no one seems to have mentioned season seven of the X-files. I stopped watching that season, I thought it was so awful. Still makes me rather sad; I was so ridiculously into that show, and it all went to hell.

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

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Friday, August 8, 2008 4:53 PM

On the topic of home improvement series, I never really got "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition". Like how down on your luck and destitute do you have to be before you get these guys to give you a brand new house? Shouldn't these guys be doing FEMA's job in rebuilding the lower 9th Ward in New Orleans, or do they consider those poor souls not as good as a family of 12 living in an outhouse? Or is it just an hour long commercial for Home Depot and Bed, Bath and Beyond?

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Friday, August 8, 2008 8:07 PM

OPPYH

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Hmm, no one seems to have mentioned season seven of the X-files. I stopped watching that season, I thought it was so awful. Still makes me rather sad; I was so ridiculously into that show, and it all went to hell.

I stopped watching it after season 6. I loved the X-files too. Never would have thought it could have gotten as bad as it did.

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Friday, August 8, 2008 8:38 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

I had hoped it might redeem itself, but it just got worse. It didn't take many season seven episodes to turn me off completely.

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

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Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:11 PM

CANTTAKESKY

Firefly - Season 17. When Shepherd Jayne leaves the monastery to marry the love of his life, who happens to be the teenage daughter of Wash and Zoe, the show lost me. I mean, c'mon. And what's with River becoming a registered companion, at her age? Completely unbelievable. They should have retired with grace at after season 16.

Awayinfantasylandisall.

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Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:25 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

When Fonzi jumped the shark

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Friday, August 15, 2008 3:01 AM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Firefly - Season 17. When Shepherd Jayne leaves the monastery to marry the love of his life, who happens to be the teenage daughter of Wash and Zoe, the show lost me. I mean, c'mon. And what's with River becoming a registered companion, at her age? Completely unbelievable. They should have retired with grace at after season 16.

Actually it lost me when Simon & Kaylee had the big fight tm , and Kaylee joined the all-girl team with that chick from Shadow...hey- wasn't that the same actress that played Kennedy on Buffy-?

Chrisisall

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Friday, August 15, 2008 4:03 AM

I didn't even stay patient for as long as you guys did, I lost interest after BDM 4: The Return of Ma Baker. This is where I thought Joss just completely ran out of ideas. Seriously, a working time portal in the cargo bay that "nobody happened to notice" for, well, how many years!? And the Boney M soundtrack just didn't fit into the whole Western theme. They should've kept it a trilogy.

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Friday, August 15, 2008 4:13 AM

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Originally posted by Khyron:
Seriously, a working time portal in the cargo bay that "nobody happened to notice" for, well, how many years!?

I thought they explained that with the whole 'chronoton particle' thing...plus having Jayne try to listen to the past, then havin' his ear go through without the rest of him, well, THAT'S entertainment!

Ahhhwackyfunisall

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Friday, August 15, 2008 4:15 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Buffy season - Six
Angel season - Four
Firefly - None
Northern Exposure - Six
Brimstone - none
Battle Star Galactica - one - then I gave up.
Heroes - Two perhaps the biggest let down in TV history for me.
Lost - Season two half way Season three half way
A Team - Last season :D
Buck Rodgers in the 25th Century - Two
Supernatural - Not let me down yet!
Magnum P.I. It's all gold mate!
Knight Rider Three onwards

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Friday, August 15, 2008 4:28 AM

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Heroes - Two perhaps the biggest let down in TV history for me.

Awww Som, don't be like that- season 3 will make up for it, I promise!

Mohinderisall

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Friday, August 15, 2008 4:44 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

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Awww Som, don't be like that- season 3 will make up for it, I promise!

Sorry Big 'C' but if ever there was a show that was clearly unable to control it's success it was this one.

I was so dismayed when at the start of season two they resorted to doing exactly what they had done with season one. I forgave them the anti-climax in the last episode as it was.

They should have focussed on the Cop dude - he was acting all the others out the park.

Heroes no more :(

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Friday, August 15, 2008 5:34 AM

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Heroes no more :(

Won't ya give the third season a chance?

Do it for Peterisall

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Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:37 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Hmm. Not sure. I doubt it though. I didn't find Peter the most interesting of characters to be honest. In fact I really only tuned in for the cop and claires father. But because of the format of the show you had to endure lesser heroes; after 20 episodes or so that becomes difficult...

Hiro - the spin off would be interesting :D

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Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:12 AM

You know, it really bugs me that season 2 of HEROES only had about a handful of iffy episodes and yet everyone was willing to call it a lost cause, while LOST spent a season and a half up it's ass, and yet everyone was willing to give that a pass.

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Loudon Wainwright III - "Strange Weirdos" off the "Knocked Up" soundtrack

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Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:49 AM

OPPYH

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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
You know, it really bugs me that season 2 of HEROES only had about a handful of iffy episodes and yet everyone was willing to call it a lost cause, while LOST spent a season and a half up it's ass, and yet everyone was willing to give that a pass.

I agree Lost season 3 was pretty boring, but season 4 IMO was the best season so far. It was kind of mind blowing.

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Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:52 AM

ReginaRoadie, that's probably because Lost season 2 was considerably better than Heroes season 2. I watched the first 4 episodes of Heroes season 2 before giving up (after really enjoying season 1) and each of those episodes I felt wasn't just iffy, it was very poor. There's only one episode of Lost I'd classify as very poor, and that's season 3's "Stranger in a Strange Land".

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
I agree Lost season 3 was pretty boring

Maybe the first half was boring, after that it kicked ass.

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Saturday, August 16, 2008 10:40 AM

MRSUNIVERSE832

Oooooh....don't get me started....

The X-Files: Seasons 8 and 9. I can't say anything about S7, because I didn't catch much of it, but S8 & S9......especially S9 sucked BIG time.
So much so that I would rather buy the XF series season-by-season rather than have to own the sets for those seasons. (How dare they kill the Lone Gunmen? Grrrr....)

CSI: Season 7. (If that's the latest one). Man, it has just gone downhill. I predict a cancellation soon.

Numb3rs: It's hard for me to think of a COMPLETELY bad season, because the show rocks,(and hopefully it'll still rock, even after this thing with Mr. Univer....*ahem* I mean Charlie Eppes getting in trouble w/ the law and losing his clearance.....) but I can't honestly say that S3 of Numb3rs was really the greatest.

CSI: Miami: Can't remember when it started sucking, all I know is that it sucks.

Mrs. Universe

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Saturday, August 16, 2008 4:57 PM

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CSI: Miami: Can't remember when it started sucking, all I know is that it sucks.

With the pilot episode. :)

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I'm with ya on Numbers - S3 was a bit of a letdown, but I'll still be watching it, because when it's good, it tends to be quite good.

Criminal Minds - when Mandy Patinkin left, I knew the show was screwed. When I see him bow out of a show, I know it's done, and he was just the first to notice the bad vibes. Chicago Hope, anyone?

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Saturday, August 16, 2008 4:59 PM

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You know, it really bugs me that season 2 of HEROES only had about a handful of iffy episodes and yet everyone was willing to call it a lost cause, while LOST spent a season and a half up it's ass, and yet everyone was willing to give that a pass.

Not quite everyone; I couldn't stick with Lost beyond about three episodes of the first season.

I was let down with S2 of Heroes, but I'll give it a go for S3.

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Saturday, August 16, 2008 5:30 PM