Superman 2006 by AURaptor

America loves a winner!

I just noticed how damned close Kate Bosworth looks , as a brunette, to Rachel McAdams.

Strange.

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Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:45 PM

OPPYH

Never had a reaction quite like I have had with Singer's Superman.
When I watched it in the theater, I loved it. Bought it on dvd, couldn't even get through it.
I just don't care for it anymore. Probably the only movie I have ever seen that has had this effect on me.
Blah!

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Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:26 PM

OPPYH

From my original post June 28th 2006:

OPPYH
Just got back from watching Superman Returns, and all I can say is...WOW.

Does it capture the spirit, and feel of the first two original Superman films?-YEs, and then some.

Is Kevin Spacey a better Lex Luthor than Gene Hackman?-Tough call, but I think so.

Is it the best Super Hero movie since the first 2 Supe films?-Yes

Will there be more Superman films from Bryan Singer?-I hope so.

If Most movies were half as good as this, I would be happy.
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Man, did I actually write that? LOL!

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Monday, January 26, 2009 4:43 AM

America loves a winner!

Oppyh...in all fairness, I think much of what you say is accurate. I just last night saw the '06 movie for the first time, on t.v. Early on in the film, I agree, that much of the feel and spirit of the 1st movie was captured. From the opening crdits to the destruction of Krypton, it was almost as if the movie had been remade, reimagined all over.

But somehow, after the story got rolling, they lost the feeling. Maybe it was the part where Superman tries to seduce Louis, knowing she's married woman? I'd have to see the movie again, before I could say for certain.

And while I'd put Spacey in the same acting level as Hackman, the story was a bit too outlandish for my taste. That Superman didn't testify was some how all the legal ammo Lex needed to get out of a double life sentence ? Whoa, that's worse D.A. work than we saw in O.J.'s double murder case!

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Monday, January 26, 2009 5:04 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Never had a reaction quite like I have had with Singer's Superman.
When I watched it in the theater, I loved it. Bought it on dvd, couldn't even get through it.
I just don't care for it anymore. Probably the only movie I have ever seen that has had this effect on me.
Blah!

PRECISELY my reaction to it...
...weird.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, January 26, 2009 6:05 AM

ZEEK

I saw it on FX last night. I had the same reaction that I had in the theater. Poorly thought out film. The kid was the worst idea ever. The evil threat was incredibly weak "Oh no it's an island!!!". Superman overcoming kryptonite cause he just really wanted to is BS!! There wasn't really any decent action sequences. They really wanted the whole movie to revolve around the jacked up relationship between supes and lois. If that was going to be the point then don't have her married off already. What do they want us to root against the nice guy who's always been there for her?

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Monday, January 26, 2009 7:36 AM

KYRA

Who we are depends on the outcome of the struggle between who we were and who we want to be

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Maybe it was the part where Superman tries to seduce Louis

Missed that bit!

For the record Lois wasn't married to Richard, her partner. Not that that makes much of a difference but I wouldnt have considered that scene to be Superman trying to seduce her in any way.

Personally I enjoyed it when I saw it at the cinema. Wasn't blown away but I was anxious to see it again. And I did when I bought the DVD

I may very well be in the minority here (I usually am) but I actually like it even more now. Its not a perfect movie in any sense of the word... but its pretty damn close. Yep, I said it
The only thing I dislike is Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane, she's a good actress but she is way too young to be playign that character (actually I think I would have preferred Erica Durance from Smallvile - she's my favourite Lois so far, capturing the character perfectly)

I know some find it boring but honestly I actually find most action sequences boring, and I'm usually the one twiddling my thumbs waiting for it to end so we can get back to the story/characters
(for the record, I liked the recent Iron Man and Incredible Hulk, but the big fights at the end? yawn)
And thats probably why I enjoy this, because the emphasis is on Superman, the weight of responsibility on his shoulders and how his solidarity has polarised the one he cares about most.
Sure it could have been better, and Lex Luthor's big plan is pretty weak, but as a movie I think its vastly underrated

my two cents

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Monday, January 26, 2009 7:39 AM

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Originally posted by Kyra:
but as a movie I think its vastly underrated

Huh. That's how I feel about Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, January 26, 2009 7:52 AM

It had some good stuff, I thought Routhe was very good in the lead. But the whole thing wasn't very well thought out, and it was a little bit too much of a love-letter to Donner's film at the expense of being it's own thing.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, January 26, 2009 9:53 AM

WHODIED

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Originally posted by Kyra:
(actually I think I would have preferred Erica Durance from Smallvile - she's my favourite Lois so far, capturing the character perfectly)

I agree, and while Gene Hackman and Kevin Spacey are both world class actors, I'll take Micheal Rosenbaum any day.

Lex in the movies always seems a bit over the top-- practically campy. But watching Smallville Lex slowly going insane? For years? Oh, yeah. That's how it should have been for Anakin Skywalker.

When they reboot Superman yet again, I'll hope they stay closer to the show, though I know they won't, for the "CW" stigma.

--WhoDied

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Monday, January 26, 2009 10:26 AM

I'd rather they stick closer to the comic (modern version, not the 70's incarnation Superman Returns veered towards).

Never liked Smallville, so I really hope they don't got that route.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, January 26, 2009 12:55 PM

KYRA

Who we are depends on the outcome of the struggle between who we were and who we want to be

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kyra:
but as a movie I think its vastly underrated

Huh. That's how I feel about Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Yikes. Well I'll try not to start another discussion on Indy, but I'll say I wasn't one of those hating the film. I loved the first half, went along for most of the ride but felt it fell flat by the end. It didn't seem like there was any emotional weight connected to the main plot (unlike Last crusade) and so the story started to "resolve" itself, I couldn't care less.

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Never liked Smallville, so I really hope they don't got that route.

Funny I watched the first couple of seasons just because it was a Superman, occasionally it was really good, but a lot of the time it was repetitive. Season 5 onwards was fantastic because it really delved into the mythology, and as whodied already said Michael Rosenbaum has played the most engaging version of Lex Luthor because its only in this that you can actually witness the character's fall from grace and understand why he is the way he is

(Incidentally, there was a comic mini-series entitled Lex Luthor: Man of Steel - worth a read if you get the chance)

As for Superman Returns, one of the best things it did differently to the Donner movies was its Lex Luthor
Kevin Spacey is a fantastic actor just like Hackman, but at least Spacey got to show some real menace. I hated, that in the Donner movies, Lex Luthor was played for laughs more than anything else

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Monday, January 26, 2009 1:10 PM

I felt that Spacey's Luthor was only a tic off from Hackman's. I think he could have been a great Luthor, had they made the character more in the vein of the Comic or Animated series, but I thought he was more-or-less a continuation of what Hackman did.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, January 26, 2009 1:13 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Originally posted by Kyra:

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I think I would have preferred Erica Durance from Smallvile - she's my favourite Lois so far, capturing the character perfectly)

Yes. I totally agree. She is the best Lois! I was frankly amazed that she was any good because initially when they brought her on she was just eye candy - and it was so blatant it rendered her inclusion redundant. But I have to say she and the show worked it's mojo on me. Michael Rosenbaum's Lex is very good also. He's had the time to develop it though - but he's taken it full on. Odd thing was I couldn't stand this show at the start. I gave up on it. Then a friend gave me Season 4,5 and 6!

Superman Returns was hugely disappointing. Never put a return in your title if your character hasn't been missed. I was shocked they took the relaitonship no further than a Dawon's Creek episode. Too much angst. Best thing about it was Kevin Spacey's (Lex's) girlfriend Parker Posey as Kitty Kowalski. She was hysterical! As for the scope and effects well... I think Smallville does better set pieces - Make a film of that!

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Monday, January 26, 2009 1:22 PM

Well at least we can all agree that Bosworth was a terrible Lois.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, January 26, 2009 1:34 PM

ZEEK

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Well at least we can all agree that Bosworth was a terrible Lois.

Terribly hot Lois? Cause seriously she was crazy hot in the movie. That was actually probably the best part of the movie to me. Which is strange because I don't think she's all that attractive in anything else she's done.

OK but as Lois Lane she really didn't hit the personality very well at all. So, yeah she was pretty bad at that.

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Monday, January 26, 2009 3:36 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Kyra:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Maybe it was the part where Superman tries to seduce Louis

Missed that bit!

For the record Lois wasn't married to Richard, her partner. Not that that makes much of a difference but I wouldnt have considered that scene to be Superman trying to seduce her in any way.

I confess, I didn't watch the whole movie, start to finish. I had in on in the other room, and wandered back and forth while it was on. Just figured she was married proper, and that the little kid wasn't such a bastard.

And as for the story of why he was gone for 5 yrs, I thought that was really lame. As I understood, astronomers "thought" they had found the remains of Krypton ? So many things wrong w/ that, where to start ? Don't his crystals have star charts and the like ? Shouldn't he have already known where Krypton was? I mean, his father not only knew of Earth, but about humans and enough to know what to tell his son he was not like them..... he knew were Earth was, so it's only logical he'd have left information as to where Krypton was, before its star exploded. And about that, if a near by star DOES explode, there's not going to be any thing left of a planet. At best, it'd be a large clump of charcol. What's left to see ?

And as for SEEING Krypton..... can't Superman just look up and focus? The guy's got x-ray vision.... can't he see better than the Hubble telescope ? Why the 5 YEAR journey to see if his old digs are still intact ?

Finally, as for the seduction scene..., a man takes a woman on a starlight viewing of the city from 2000 ft, with her arms around him and her standing , bare feet, I might add, on his ...... he's tryin' to get in her pants. Sorry, but there's no other way to say it. He said he needed to show her something, and she fell for that line. Oldest trick in the book.

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Monday, January 26, 2009 3:44 PM

As to the "gone 5 years" bit, there is a great deal of deleted footage that was supposed to explained that. Kal Pen's character had a subplot where he'd been, with Luthor's guidance, fabricating the evidence. They also shot the sequence where Supes finds the wreckage of the planet - a sequence that reportedly cost $11 million unto itself - but have never released it.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, January 26, 2009 3:50 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Kyra:
but as a movie I think its vastly underrated

Huh. That's how I feel about Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Chris, you are one sad, twisted little dude.

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Monday, January 26, 2009 4:24 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Kyra:
but as a movie I think its vastly underrated

Huh. That's how I feel about Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Chris, you are one sad, twisted little dude.

Huh.
That's how I felt about you until your funny side started comin' out...

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:03 AM

America loves a winner!

How you acknowledge the greatness of the 1st Indiana movie and then say with a straight face you like the Cyrstal Skull crap is a real mystery.

Defies human comprehension. It really does.

You'd probably say the 2nd Caddyshack is just as funny as the first.

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:41 AM

ZEEK

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
As to the "gone 5 years" bit, there is a great deal of deleted footage that was supposed to explained that. Kal Pen's character had a subplot where he'd been, with Luthor's guidance, fabricating the evidence. They also shot the sequence where Supes finds the wreckage of the planet - a sequence that reportedly cost $11 million unto itself - but have never released it.

Pfft why would they include those scenes? Just to explain the story? That's crazy. Just throw some romantic angst at the screen and call it a wrap. Who wants a coherent plot these days?

Awful.

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:44 AM

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Originally posted by Zeek:

Pfft why would they include those scenes? Just to explain the story? That's crazy. Just throw some romantic angst at the screen and call it a wrap. Who wants a coherent plot these days?

Aside from a nice theme written by John Williams, the movie was a total loss, why we still talkin' about this?

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:08 AM