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Too bad its impossible for humans to get to the Moon.

"These babies are huge, Sir! Enormous. Oh my God! You wouldn't believe it. I'm telling you there are spacecraft out there, lined up on the far side of the crater edge. They're on the Moon watching us."
-Lt Neil Armstrong, Apollo 11, according to NASA-NAZI Dr Farouk El Baz, Maurice Chatelaine of North American Rockwell, USSR's Dr Aleksander Kazantzev, Dr Vladimir Azhaza, et al.

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So it's impossible to get there, but you put up an apparently redacted quote from Armstrong while he WAS there.

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Originally posted by Briglad:
Also Armstrong was a civilian at the time of his moon landing. He had resigned his commission in 1960 at the rank of Lt.(junior Grade)

The belief that Man has not not walked on the moon in this day and age is frankly, laughable.

I am old enough to remember watching the missions live. (I admit I was a young child, but I still remember them)

You are entitled to your opinion, as am I.

I started this thread to draw attention to what looked like an interesting movie. Not debate about the moon landings.

Now please, can we get back on topic?

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An astronaut becomes stranded on the moon for three years.

www.moon-movie.com

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Originally posted by Shadesiren:
You guys don't watch Mythbusters, do ya? They already proved that it COULDN'T be faked.

(you can attack that statement if you like, but I don't post or reply often enough to get back here to read them, so don't waste too much energy on me, just wanted to mention it.)

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"So I can hear what you're saying: 'But you guys replicated the moon shot on a set, and you're special effects artists. You're exactly the kind of guys that NASA would've hired to do this kind of thing in the first place!'"
-Adam Savage, Mythbusters Moon Hoax 3:35

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I'm there.


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My grandfather worked as a physicist for NASA during the Apollo missions. Insinuations that it's nothing but elaborate (and apparently deadly) special effects are deeply offensive to me, my family, and overall common sense and intelligence.
That is all.

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It is somewhat amusing to see someone nobody knows trying to convince someone else nobody knows...

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If I may, Piratenews, you have never generated enough trust in your identity to be more trustworthy to people here than the people you tell us we should distrust.

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"In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying."
—Nazi chancellor Adolf Hitler Schicklegruber Rothschild, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X

"That is of course rather painful for those involved. One should not as a rule reveal one's secrets, since one does not know if and when one may need them again. The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous."
-Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda, who murdered his wife and 5 daughters before suiciding himself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie

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This amounts to, "Trust me. I'm the media, and I'm popular. If I tell you your gramps helped fake the moon landings, you better trust me over your own experience."

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Former astronaut: Man not alone in universe

April 20, 2009

Earth Day may fall later this week, but as far as former NASA astronaut Edgar Mitchell and other UFO enthusiasts are concerned, the real story is happening elsewhere.

Astronaut Edgar Mitchell, shown after his Apollo mission in 1971, claims there "is no doubt we are being visited."

Mitchell, who was part of the 1971 Apollo 14 moon mission, asserted Monday that extraterrestrial life exists, and that the truth is being concealed by the U.S. and other governments.

He delivered his remarks during an appearance at the National Press Club following the conclusion of the fifth annual X-Conference, a meeting of UFO activists and researchers studying the possibility of alien life forms.

Mankind has long wondered if we're "alone in the universe. [But] only in our period do we really have evidence. No, we're not alone," Mitchell said.

"Our destiny, in my opinion, and we might as well get started with it, is [to] become a part of the planetary community. ... We should be ready to reach out beyond our planet and beyond our solar system to find out what is really going on out there."

Mitchell grew up in Roswell, New Mexico, which some UFO believers maintain was the site of a UFO crash in 1947. He said residents of his hometown "had been hushed and told not to talk about their experience by military authorities." They had been warned of "dire consequences" if they did so.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/20/ufo.conference/index.html


In 2004 he told the St. Petersburg Times that a "cabal of insiders" inside the US Government were studying recovered alien bodies, and that this group had stopped briefing US presidents after John F. Kennedy.[7] He said, "We all know that UFOs are real; now the question is, where they come from?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell

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Uh, movie making guys? The Moon is 240,000 miles away, not 950,000. There isn’t anything that far away except a random telescope or two and some very thinly dispersed dust and solar wind. Sheesh. That’s a pretty awful mistake to make on a poster! I keep telling these guys that for only a million bucks I’ll be happy to vet what they’re doing. Seems like a bargain to me!
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/04/12/moon-movie-c
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Actually, I'm hardly unknown to everyone here.

I've met several of the posters in person, bunked with them at DragonCon, given them my number, sung karaoke in front of them, comforted them when they were sad, partied with them when they were happy, and in all been pretty open about myself and my life.

So, if your point is credibility, which is quite a valid point, I probably have some references who could vouch that I really am what I appear. Just sayin'

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More proof: the astronauts left a mirror on the moon so we could bounce a laser off it to measure the distance. If we didn't go there and leave a mirror, how does the laser light get bouced back?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060713/news_lz1c13laser.html

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On January 10, 1946 ,a radio amateur in the US Army Signal Corps bounced a radar beam off the moon, marking the first Earth-Moon-Earth transmission. Amateurs using EME today continue to explore the boundaries of radio technology, and its popularity continues to grow.

The first Amateur Radio signals to echo from the moon were transmitted in 1953. Ross Bateman, W4AO, and William L. Smith, W3GKP, bounced 144-MHz signals off the moon.

EME today is an increasingly popular Amateur Radio operating mode among VHF and UHF enthusiasts. Radio amateurs regularly beam signals to the moon, with their reflections painting a large area of our planet.

-American Radio Relay League
www.arrl.org/news/features/2002/01/21/1/


ARRL's Introduction to Moonbounce (EME = Earth-Moon-Earth)
www.arrl.org/tis/info/moon.html

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2 words : GAMMA RAYS

The surface of the Moon has more gamma rays than the surface of the Sun, according to NASA Moon maps. This is because the 6-million mph Solar wind repels cosmic gamma rays, and the Moon lacks a magnetic force field like the Earth, since it has a solid core.

Global Elemental Maps of the Moon: The Lunar Prospector Gamma-Ray Spectrometer
www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/281/5382/1484


GAMMA RAY SPECTROMETER RESULTS
http://lunar.arc.nasa.gov/results/gamres.htm&usg=AFQjCNHBRWbdAAfhn5Gms
HglRli2-bvYwA

NASA had no idea how much gamma rays were on the Moon until 30 years after Apollo, when Lunar orbiters took these images in the 1990s.

If you don't know what a gamma ray is, google it.

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2 words : GAMMA RAYS

The surface of the Moon has more gamma rays than the surface of the Sun, according to NASA Moon maps. This is because the 6-million mph Solar wind repels cosmic gamma rays, and the Moon lacks a magnetic force field like the Earth, since it has a solid core.

Global Elemental Maps of the Moon: The Lunar Prospector Gamma-Ray Spectrometer
www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/281/5382/1484


GAMMA RAY SPECTROMETER RESULTS
http://lunar.arc.nasa.gov/results/gamres.htm&usg=AFQjCNHBRWbdAAfhn5Gms
HglRli2-bvYwA

NASA had no idea how much gamma rays were on the Moon until 30 years after Apollo, when Lunar orbiters took these images in the 1990s.

If you don't know what a gamma ray is, google it.

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Hey, PN?

It looks like (a) your link is broken, and (b) that map is for IRON distribution, which has little to nothing to do with Gamma Rays.

And if you think the moon puts out more Gamma Rays than the sun, you really need to go back to "skool" and learn some more about cosmology.

BTW, why are you trying to link to a NASA site in the first place? Why on Earth (or the moon) would you trust anything they put up, and why would you point to it to "prove" your point, if you had one?

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Gamma Ray image of Sun

FERMI GAMMA RAY SPACE TELESCOPE

GLAST could lead to important breakthroughs in this area. It will complement NASA's Reuven Ramaty High Energy Solar Spectroscopic Imager (RHESSI) mission, a satellite launched in 2002. RHESSI detects solar-flare gamma rays with energies up to about 20 MeV. The LAT will extend this range to higher than 300 GeV, which will enable astronomers to test theories that have been developed based on data from RHESSI and other instruments.

GLAST may also yield interesting results pertaining to other solar-system bodies. Surprisingly, the Moon is a moderately bright gamma-ray source. As Thompson says, "The only part of the electromagnetic spectrum where the Moon is brighter than the Sun is gamma rays." Being a cold, mostly inert object, the Moon is utterly incapable of producing gamma rays on its own. But cosmic-ray particles slamming into the lunar surface produce secondary gamma rays."

www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/science/solar_system.html

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High energy diagnostic medical x-ray photons = 200,000 eV

Typical energies from nuclear decay:

gamma = 3 MeV (3-million)

beta = 3 MeV (3-million)

alpha = 10 MeV (10-million)

Cosmic ray energies = 1 MeV to 1000 TeV (1000 trillion = quadrillion)

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/ev.html

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The Food irradiation process

Gamma rays and X-rays form part of the electromagnetic spectrum, like radio waves, microwaves, ultraviolet and visible light rays. Gamma rays and X-rays are in the short wave length, high-energy region of the spectrum. Both Gamma and X-rays can penetrate foods to a depth of several feet.

The radionuclide used almost always for the irradiation of food by gamma rays is cobalt-60. This technology has been used routinely for more than thirty years to sterilize medical, dental and household products, and it is also used for radiation treatment of cancer.

Radioactive substances emit gamma rays all the time. When not in use, the gamma ray “source” is stored in a pool of water which absorbs the radiation harmlessly and completely. To irradiate food or some other product, the source is pulled out of the water into a chamber with massive concrete walls that keep any rays from escaping. Medical products or foods to be irradiated are brought into the chamber, and are exposed to the rays for a defined period of time. After it is used, the source is returned to the water tank.

Only certain radiation sources can be used in food irradiation. These are the radionuclides cobalt-60 or cesium-137 (used very rarely); X-ray machines having a maximum energy of five million electron volts (MeV); or electron machines having a maximum energy of 10 MeV. Energies from these radiation sources are too low to induce radioactivity in any material, including food.

Radiation dose is the quantity of radiation energy absorbed by the food as it passes through the radiation field during processing. It is measured in Gray (Gy) [one Gray equals one Joule of energy absorbed per kilogram of food being irradiated] or in rad (1 Gy = 100 rads). International health and safety authorities have endorsed the safety of irradiation for all foods up to a dose level of 10,000 Gy (10 kGy).

Have there been major accidents at industrial irradiation facilities?

In other countries, a small number of fatal incidents have been documented in which a worker by-passed multiple safety steps to enter the chamber while the source was exposed, resulting in a severe or even lethal radiation injury to themselves.

http://uw-food-irradiation.engr.wisc.edu/Process.html

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The distribution of ground-level neutron radiation around the Moon's south pole. "Hot spots" are red; cool spots, blue

Radioactive Moon

How much radiation awaits lunar colonists? A new NASA mission aims to find out.

September 8, 2005: On the Moon, many of the things that can kill you are invisible: breathtaking vacuum, extreme temperatures and space radiation top the list.

Vacuum and temperature NASA can handle; spacesuits and habitats provide plenty of air and insulation. Radiation, though, is trickier.

The surface of the Moon is baldly exposed to cosmic rays and solar flares, and some of that radiation is very hard to stop with shielding. Furthermore, when cosmic rays hit the ground, they produce a dangerous spray of secondary particles right at your feet. All this radiation penetrating human flesh can damage DNA, boosting the risk of cancer and other maladies.

Out in deep space, radiation comes from all directions. On the Moon, you might expect the ground, at least, to provide some relief, with the solid body of the Moon blocking radiation from below. Not so.

When galactic cosmic rays collide with particles in the lunar surface, they trigger little nuclear reactions that release yet more radiation in the form of neutrons. The lunar surface itself is radioactive!

So which is worse for astronauts: cosmic rays from above or neutrons from below? Igor Mitrofanov, a scientist at the Institute for Space Research and the Russian Federal Space Agency, Moscow, offers a grim answer: "Both are worse."

The first global mapping of neutron radiation from the Moon was performed by NASA's Lunar Prospector probe in 1998-99.

To carefully measure and map the Moon's radiation environment, NASA is developing a robotic probe to orbit the Moon beginning in 2008. Called the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO), this scout will pave the way for future human missions by measuring space radiation.

One of the instruments onboard LRO is the Cosmic Ray Telescope for the Effects of Radiation (CRaTER).

"Not only will we measure the radiation, we will use plastics that mimic human tissue to look at how these highly energetic particles penetrate and interact with the human body," says Spence, who is the Principal Investigator for CRaTER.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/08sep_radioactivemoon.htm


Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (NOT LAUNCHED)
http://lunar.gsfc.nasa.gov/

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"It was a little bit of a sham, I admit. The reality is when you get in the cockpit something usually goes wrong. If you actually lift off it's really a big surprise."
-Lt Neil Armstrong

"As for walking on the moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. I can honestly say—and it's a great surprise to me that I have never had a dream about being on the moon. It's a great disappointment to me."
-Lt Neil Armstrong, Apollo 11

"When I was at the Bohemian Grove, Neil Armstrong was there, just a year after he stepped on the moon. His speech by the lake was called 'The Food of The Future: Oil'. Honestly! Even the fat cats around me were moaning on their way back to peeing on the redwoods. I was more disappointed that Armstrong never mentioned the Moon once."
—Amazon.com review of Hollyweird's mockumentary "Teddy Bears' Picnic" about Satanic Bohemian Grove presidential retreat and homosexual nudist colony

Lt Neil Armstrong speaking at dedication of 'Neil Armstrong Hall of Engineering' at Purdue, WITHOUT SAYING ONE WORD ABOUT NASA OR WALKING ON THE MOON:

"The space race was a diversion..."
-Lt Neil Armstrong at NASA 50th Anniversary Gala WITHOUT SAYING ONE WORD ABOUT WALKING ON THE MOON

"100 years ago Jules Verne wrote a book about its spaceship Columbia, it took off from Florida and landed in the Pacific Ocean, after completing a trip to the Moon. It's appropriate for us to share with you the reflections of the crew of the modern day Columbia completes its rondevue with the planet Earth in the same Pacific Ocean tomorrow."
-Lt Neil Armstrong on Apollo 11, July 1969

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"NASA will send a series of unmanned probes to the Lunar surface to prepare for future human exploration. A Brave New World awaits us..."
-Lt Neil Armstrong, 2004

"By the prognosis of statisticians, you should be dead in space and I should be in jail on Earth."
—Dr Baron Werner von Braun, NASA Nazi Waffen SS Major at Mittelworks underground ICBM factory and Death Camp at Norhausen, Germany, saved from war-crimes trial and death penalty for genociding 25,000 slaves via Pentagon's Operation Paperclip, to Lt Neil Armstrong

"There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of the truth's protective layers?"
-Lt Neil Armstrong, White House ceremony, 1994

"You do not deserve answers!"
-Lt Neil Armstrong, Astronots Gone Wild
www.moonmovie.com

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More proof: the astronauts left a mirror on the moon so we could bounce a laser off it to measure the distance. If we didn't go there and leave a mirror, how does the laser light get bouced back?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060713/news_lz1c13laser.html

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The surface of the Moon has more gamma rays than the surface of the Sun, according to NASA Moon maps. This is because the 6-million mph Solar wind repels cosmic gamma rays, and the Moon lacks a magnetic force field like the Earth, since it has a solid core.

Global Elemental Maps of the Moon: The Lunar Prospector Gamma-Ray Spectrometer
www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/281/5382/1484


GAMMA RAY SPECTROMETER RESULTS
http://lunar.arc.nasa.gov/results/gamres.htm&usg=AFQjCNHBRWbdAAfhn5Gms
HglRli2-bvYwA

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Okay so there are Gamma Rays on the Moon and NASA didn't know of them until some time after they landed men on the Moon, so why exactly is that considered as evidence that they didn't place men on the Moon? I read up on X-Rays and gamma rays and according to the article it said gamma rays were the most destructive form of radiation, but it also said that gamma rays were used as treatment to curing cancer. My question is could the suits the Astronauts wore have protected them from a threat NASA did not even know of like Gamma Rays?

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Um, you totally ignored the point of my post. EXPLAIN to me HOW the MIRRORS got on the Moon that BOUNCED LASER LIGHT off them. NOT radio or radar waves. LASER LIGHT does not bounce off the Moon. It takes a mirror or other very flat smooth reflective surface to do so. THERE IS NO SUCH NATURALLY OCCURRING SURFACE ON THE MOON.

And what does the hammer & feather experiement have to do with it? NOTHING. Answer my original question, and stop your diversions.

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Okay so there are Gamma Rays on the Moon and NASA didn't know of them until some time after they landed men on the Moon, so why exactly is that considered as evidence that they didn't place men on the Moon? I read up on X-Rays and gamma rays and according to the article it said gamma rays were the most destructive form of radiation, but it also said that gamma rays were used as treatment to curing cancer. My question is could the suits the Astronauts wore have protected them from a threat NASA did not even know of like Gamma Rays?

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Gamma Rays KILL ALL HUMAN CELLS with cancerous immortality.

Gamma Rays KILL ALL HUMAN CELLS period.

Gamma Rays KILL ALL LIVING FLESH ON CONTACT.

Gamma Rays penetrate SEVERAL FEET into human tissue - it's NOT skin deep like UV.

Cloth space suits with plastic helmets and foil visors offer ZERO protection from gamma rays. In fact, when a gamma rays hits a spacesuit, helmet or visor is STARTS A NUCLEAR CHAIN REACTION which MAKES THE SPACESUIT RADIOACTIVE and INCREASES THE RADIATION.

Over 700,000 US Iraq War veterans are now paid disability pensions, with over 70,000 dead, according to US Govt Veterans Administration, not counting Social Security pensions. Much or most of those injuries are due to so-called "Depleted Uranium" which is radioactive for 35-BILLION years, and is used in all bullets and tank armor. It first gives off alpha radiation, which is deadly when inhaled or eaten, and spontaneously combusts when fired from a gun. The alpha radiation then degrates into beta radiation and gamma radiation., inside the human body.

Birth defects in Iraq are now horrendous, as well as birth defects for US troops, due to DU dust.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=depleted+uranium&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=

When I loaded nukes for Uncle Scam, I was never allowed radiation testing, not on me and not on the nukes. Like an idiot I didn't question that at the time. But now I've been disabled for 12 years, just like some of the guys I worked with every day (who may be dead now).

Uncle Scam don't give a damn about killing its employees, with radiation or anything else. What Uncle Scam CANNOT tolerate is killing its employees on live TeeVee. That panics the sheeple or triggers Revolution.

The REAL Moon program was Top Secret, with the real astronauts never identified, and probably only Russians. They did not survive the trip. So there proably are DEAD astronauts on the Moon today, either corpsified in their spaceship on the surface, or vaporized in a new crater.

Cremated human corpses also have actually "landed" on the Moon, for rich folks paying to have their ashes crashed into the surface.

So NASA can say with a straight face that humans did "go" to the Moon. Just not the named Apollo astronots.


Radiation is NOT good for you
www.gulfwarvets.com]

Gamma Ray:
n.
Electromagnetic radiation emitted by radioactive decay and having energies in a range from ten thousand (104) to ten million (107) electron volts

High-energy electromagnetic radiation emitted from atomic nuclei during a nuclear reaction. Gamma rays and very-high-energy X rays differ only in origin (X rays do not originate from atomic nuclei).

Penetrating very short-wavelength electromagnetic radiation, similar to an X-ray but of higher energy, that is emitted spontaneously by some radioactive substances. Gamma radiation also originates in the decay of certain subatomic particles and in particle-antiparticle annihilation. Gamma rays can initiate nuclear fission, can be absorbed by ejection of an electron, and can be scattered by free electrons.

High frequency electromagnetic radiation from radioactive particles.

Gamma rays are like the light we see with our eyes, the x-rays used to probe our bodies in search of problems, and the radio waves that our television sets translate into inane shows. The only difference among these types of electromagnetic radiation is the wavelengths of the waves and how fast they vibrate. Gamma rays are the most energetic (and vibrate the most); radio waves are the least energetic and vibrate the least.

Uses:

Because the wavelength of gamma radiation is so short, a single incident photon can impart significant damage to a living cell. This property means that gamma radiation is often used to kill living organisms, in a process called irradiation. Applications of this include sterilizing medical equipment (as an alternative to autoclaves or chemical means), removing decay-causing bacteria from many foods or preventing fruit and vegetables from sprouting to maintain freshness and flavor.

Due to their tissue penetrating property, gamma rays/X-rays have a wide variety of medical uses such as in CT Scans and radiation therapy (see X-ray). However, as a form of ionizing radiation they have the ability to effect molecular changes, giving them the potential to cause cancer when DNA is affected. The molecular changes can also be used to alter the properties of semi-precious stones, and is often used to change white topaz into blue topaz.

Despite their cancer-causing properties, gamma rays are also used to treat some types of cancer. In the procedure called gamma-knife surgery, multiple concentrated beams of gamma rays are directed on the growth in order to kill the cancerous cells. The beams are aimed from different angles to focus the radiation on the growth while minimizing damage to the surrounding tissues.

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Space suits must provide all of the comfort and support that the Earth or a spacecraft does, addressing issues like atmosphere, water and protection from radiation.


Perhaps you underestimate the intelligence of everyone but you.






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The moon landing was our greatest achievement.

The hard work of NASA, and the courageous astronauts did something fairy tales can't even match. They broke the bonds of disbelief, and real world weariness in a troubled time. And for once, and maybe one time only our beautiful earth, and all it's people were renewed with a sense of hope, and wonderment.

Of course since that time our space program has fallen apart. People in general could give a rat's ass about anything space related.

But back to the point.....how dare you sir!

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Piratenews,

The moon landing was our greatest achievement.

The hard work of NASA, and the courageous astronauts did something fairy tales can't even match. They broke the bonds of disbelief, and real world weariness in a troubled time. And for once, and maybe one time only our beautiful earth, and all it's people were renewed with a sense of hope, and wonderment.

Of course since that time our space program has fallen apart. People in general could give a rat's ass about anything space related.

But back to the point.....how dare you sir!

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During apollo, the same US military that provided astronots and rockets is the same US military that wrote Operation Northwoods, genocided 2.5-million people in the illegal Vietnam Wars, assassinated president JFK and others (Northwoods), paid Israel to sink USS Liberty to blame Arabs (Northwoods), and sent Pentagon US Navy officer Bob Woodward to force president Nixon to resign during Watergate (Nixon's CIA Watergate burgler E Howard Hunt confessed to assassinating JFK as proven by jury verdict in court in Hunt v Liberty Lobby). Apollo was run by NASA Nazis indicted and deported as warcriminals for the genocide of 25,000 slaves in their underground ICBM factory of death, among 10s of millions of other murders.

JFK was assassinated because he vetoed Northwoods, wanted to "smash the CIA into 1000 pieces", ended the Vietnam War, was ending the private "Federal" Reserve Bank counterfieting all "US dollar bills" (sic) and stealing all IRS income taxes, and would never have allowed faking the Moon landings. Mafia VP Nixon started Northwoods, which is why president General Ike warned USA about the Military Industrial Complex.

Operation Northwoods included Pentagon lying about the deaths of astronots, and using robot drones to replace manned missions. Northwoods was a signed confession to treason by the Pentagon joint chiefs of staff, and included the Pentagon hiring enemy soldiers to attack US troops, Pentagon perping sniper assassinations in USA to blame patsies, Pentagon bombing Washington DC to blame patsies, Pentagon hijacking US airliners by remote control and killing everyone on board (fake deaths of CIA agents with fake funerals).

OPERATION NORTHWOODS - declassified in 2000 as part of JFK Assassination Archives
www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662

Until USA faces these facts of engineering, science and history, there's no hope of ever "returning" live humans to the Moon and returning them safely to Earth. And probably no hope for the immediate survival of USA. But all the scifi you want in the virtual 'verse.

In fact, Hussein Obama cancelled all NASA Moon missions last week. No future human Moon missions, no human Mars missions.
www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=38086

Because it's impossible, not because of bugetary deficits. Obama and GW Bush just gave $14-trillion dollars to the international banksters, and stole 60-million acres of "federal" land from the sheeple.

As for this MOON movie, I like its script that links conspiracy to the Moon missions. Which will probably kill MOON in the box office, since conspiracy and moon cannot be used in the same sentence. Or They have to kill ya.

I also like how MOON's website will send folks to Bart Sibrel's website at www.moonmovie.com .

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Showed my wife the trailer for “ Moon”. I think she was more interested than she played to be.

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Originally posted by rallem:

Get a grip. Is your life nothing but conspiracy theories? Were the qualifications you listed to give credence to your asinine claims, all gotten while you were working as a secret agent?

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Originally posted by rallem:

Get a grip. Is your life nothing but conspiracy theories? Were the qualifications you listed to give credence to your asinine claims, all gotten while you were working as a secret agent?

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Is your life nothing but worshipping govt as your god, and believing every lie sold to you?

USA is the laughingstock of the world because of stuppid Amerikan sheeple. USA now ranks 25th in the world for science and math skills, which aren't required to believe in scifi. 50-million illiterate illegal aliens are not counted in those figures, or USA would rank 100th.

When I went to school, I won county math contests. But half of today's high skool grads who pay for college can't take any college classes without retaking years of remedial math.

It's really scary how many essential skills US skools don't teach. Europeans students are required to learn about how insane their royal families were (are), massacring their entire families publicly (King Henry 8th founder of the Church of England and inventor of divorce hanged all his wives because divorce was illegal by the Catholic Nation), or privately, bathing in bathtubs of blood of 500 young virgins (John Kerry and GW Bush's cousin Countess Dracula Elizabeth Bathory). Idiot Amerikan students/tourists are tought that European royality are "quaint", not homicidal dictatorships, as they retake ownership of planet Earth by hostile takeover. The British Empire burned Washington DC and the White House in the War of 1812.

MOON and many other movies are clues that criminal conspiracies are the opposite of conspiracy theories. The most absurd conspiracy theories are always promoted by govts to protect themselves from arrest (Hitler's arson of the German Reichstag parliament, etc).

Unfortuneately, HG Wells (author of The New World Order) ran a psyop for OSS/CIA in War Of The Worlds, proving sheeple cannot tel lthe difference between reality and fantasy, even when illegal aliens invade from outer space.

Folks pay to watch the Terminator franchise "for fun", without thinking as it sells predictive programming of overthrow of USA, robots replacing police and military in USA (while ignoring real Pentagon recruitment TV ads for killer robots), and a Nazi illegal alien gay porn star as governor of bankrupt California and president of USA.

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