TRENCHES!!!!!! by Calhoun

Heh, I knew someone would bite.

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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:39 PM

This taking waaaaay too long..

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Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:25 AM

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Barnstormer posted in the General area that the online directors blog is now saying February of '08. Here is Barnstormer's thread:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=31624

I briefly checked the Trenches site and did not see the delay announcement.

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Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:11 AM

BARNSTORMER

http://panicstruck.blogspot.com/

Check the last paragraph of the Oct 30 entry.

The worst thing about liking "quality SciFi" is the Looonnnnggggg downtime waiting for the next one to come along.

Damn, why did Fox have to cancel.

I just hope Trenches fits the bill.

Am I a Lion?... No, I think I'ma tellin' the truth.

BarnStormer

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Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:55 AM

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Got it. Here it is:

Quote:
Seriously, Trenches is looking now at a release in Febuary or so. Bear with us and I think your wait will be worth while. There is some great work being done.

He doesn't state the reason for the delay. Wonder why we didn't catch the delay sooner if it was announced four weeks ago. Could be that it was buried at the bottom of that entry. *sighs*

Sure hope it is worth the wait as he says.

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Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:23 AM

February! bah!

Thanks anyways Browncoat1.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:02 AM

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

No problem Calhoun.

You know, it is that "or so" part of that quote that bothers me. I would not be surprised if it is pushed back past February.

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Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:05 PM

I just tried e-mailing them through the contact us link at the top of the trenchesonline site and my e-mail was sent back as undeliverable.. seems they dont exist anymore.

Hope that doesnt mean the whole shebang is over?

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Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:51 PM

Belay that last post!

I got an e-mail through and Shane Felux himself responded!! Basically he says they had some delays but Trenches is coming as soon as possible 2008.
Which I take to mean Anytime now!!

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Monday, January 21, 2008 4:42 AM

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Let's hope so Calhoun. I'm looking forward to this show, but the delays have me a bit concerned.

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Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:00 PM

This is taking far too long...

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:06 AM

BARNSTORMER

directors blog says april 2008

Am I a Lion?... No, I think I'ma tellin' the truth.

BarnStormer

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:21 AM

Oooooooh! I'd been meaning to check out the directors blog.

April! nice. Thanks Barnstormer.

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Friday, December 18, 2009 2:10 AM

Resurrected this thread in amazement..

All this time and still waiting. Seems like studio interference is the root of all evils.

I might not even bother to check this out now when it finally does come.. just out of spite.

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Friday, December 18, 2009 3:31 AM

... fully loaded, safety off...

Thx for bumping this - it's an interesting story if not a happy one for scifi fans. I am looking forward to it and I'll definitely check it out - gotta support the dude!

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Friday, December 18, 2009 3:44 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

"Shot in only fourteen days," huh? And in production for fourteen years, it seems... :(

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Friday, December 18, 2009 5:32 AM

PENNAUSAMIKE

Trenches was shown at Farpoint Con outside Baltimore MD in February, 2009.
Or so I understand, because my day went in the crapper from the git-go and I missed the 11:00AM premier.
I wanted to see it because a handful of my Browncoat friends/acquaintances had a hand in making Trenches.

It is my understanding that the problem is that the director completely neglected to film
adequate wide or establishing shots.
Everything is basically character close-ups, so in editing there is no way to visually advance the storyline.
The audience can't follow what is supposed to be developing, plot-wise.

Of course, I don't actually know this for myself,
CUZ I MISSED IT!

Aargh....

Mike

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Friday, December 18, 2009 11:23 AM

I read through all the directors blogs and it seems as though its been finished and in the can for quite some time. The delays have been attributed to studio release.

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Friday, December 18, 2009 11:17 PM

2 year old thread.. and counting.

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Saturday, March 6, 2010 12:05 AM

So it seems Trenches has finally come out!

Its just that I can't watch it....

Seems that the series is country limited to the yanks.. Stuff us Aussies and the rest of the world huh..

Oh man.. i'm pissed off. Waited years for this and to have them fck us over like this just.. F A R K!!!

Reviews look good.. i'll never know for sure

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Saturday, March 6, 2010 3:00 PM

I have been reliably informed that we (the rest of the world) should get to see it on youtube in about a month or so. Better'n nothing I suppose.

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Sunday, March 7, 2010 10:57 AM

DOESN'T ANYONE CARE???

sheesh! looks to be a great sci-fi show, I thought browncoats were a discerning sci-fi loving people.

I thought someone might have seen it and responded...

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Sunday, March 7, 2010 8:06 PM

hmmm..

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Monday, March 8, 2010 10:46 AM

Misstressahara, have you seen it yet? any good?

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Monday, March 8, 2010 10:47 AM

BrownCoat1, surely you have seen it? whats your opinion?

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Monday, March 8, 2010 10:47 AM

Barnstormer?

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Monday, March 8, 2010 10:48 AM

pizmobeach?

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Monday, March 8, 2010 10:49 AM

Kwicko?

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Monday, March 8, 2010 10:49 AM

pennausamike?

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Monday, March 8, 2010 11:14 AM

... fully loaded, safety off...

Father? "Search your feelings..."

Sorry Calhoun - for some reason I don't always get notices for threads I've posted in...I'm still here and I'm still very interested!

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Monday, March 8, 2010 11:22 AM

So you haven't watched it yet? Lemme know what i'm missing.

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Monday, March 8, 2010 12:13 PM

... fully loaded, safety off...

No I haven't -

http://crackle.com/c/Trenches

just watched the first one - it's nice, I like. Kind of hard watching on a small screen, some people fall in love with handheld just a bit much... other than that great job on an Indy budget, looking forward to seeing the rest.

Thx for keeping an eye out for this one Calhoun!

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Monday, March 8, 2010 5:05 PM

No Probs Pizmobeach, crackle just got back to me saying they hope to be streaming to Australia in april, so i'll just wait a little longer.

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Sunday, March 14, 2010 5:28 AM

... fully loaded, safety off...

video test:

http://www.google.com/translate?langpair=en|it&u=www.crackle.com/c/Tre
nches/1_Fubar/2480729/

Calhoun - k, I tried some cludges so you could maybe see the vids - no luck (they're way ahead of me).

I just finished watching the 10 mini eps and here are my impressions:

There's a pretty good story in there and some noteworthy accomplishments from cast and crew/director and music. Hell of a thing to pull together for people without a studio or network backing (although I believe ABC was attached at some point, which makes me skeptical of why they're on "Crackle" - they must have lost faith).

There are also plenty of plot holes though, and cliched story points, and SyFy bad special effects.
I thought the edits were way too quick (that's what you do to cover low budget effects and create the sense of action - over used here) and the shooting style was much too jerky, over use of handheld. You never get to stop and consider the characters.

Crackle's "HD" quality was pretty bad on my screen, not sure what HD really means on the internet any more!

I think this could have been greatly improved with seasoned writers and a studio/network helping them step over and around some of the more glaring things that didn't work.

Overall, congrats to everyone involved, I was entertained, I'd like to see more.

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Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:36 AM

Hey Pizmobeach,

Thanks for thinking of me but no joy on that link.. i'll just wait patiently

Also appreciate your review and thoughts on the series. Sounds about where I expected considering budgets etc. Shane Felux usually puts something pretty darn good on screen though.

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Friday, March 19, 2010 2:46 AM

Any other reviews?

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:55 AM

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Quote:
Originally posted by Calhoun:
BrownCoat1, surely you have seen it? whats your opinion?

I have seen it, and sorry for not responding earlier Calhoun.

I agree w/ PizmoBeach that "Trenches" is a fun watch and well worth the efforts to see it. The story is good, the acting solid, the direction was well done, and a lot of love went into this project. For an indy film, with no support from a studio, I think it is well done.

Now, as Pizmo pointed out, there are some low points, so in the spirit of review, but taking nothing away from the efforts of any involved, here they are.

I noticed the plot holes, as Pizmo mentioned, and the special effects are fairly bad at points. Made for television SyFy bad. Again this is most likely due to the lack of a big budget and pro equipment for effects, but it is nonetheless a sticking point. I also agree that the shooting style was a bit jerky and tedious.

I agree that Crackle might not be the best way to view Trenches. I had issues with the viewing quality as well and that lessened my enjoyment a bit.

Pizmo is spot on that seasoned writers and the backing of a studio/network could have helped to really flesh out the characters a bit better and enhanced the special effects and camera work for an overall better product. Again, this is not meant to take away anything from those whose efforts helped to realize this series as it is a good piece for indy filming.

Did I enjoy it? I most certainly did. Will I watch if they do more? Yep, sure will. Overall I'd give it a B with an A for effort.

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